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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Mar 19, 2010 13:35:08 GMT 1, I think these kind or priced pieces by Faile are a good idea. I get the impression a lot of people only wish they were cheaper so they could make a profit flipping them on 
I think Faile have done this coz thats what they think they are really worth  Simple as that! Yes, I know your gonna say you can get pieces on ebay cheaper, and your probably right all that goes to show is you can pick up some bargains on ebay.
I think these kind or priced pieces by Faile are a good idea. I get the impression a lot of people only wish they were cheaper so they could make a profit flipping them on I think Faile have done this coz thats what they think they are really worth Simple as that! Yes, I know your gonna say you can get pieces on ebay cheaper, and your probably right all that goes to show is you can pick up some bargains on ebay. |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by daveart on Mar 19, 2010 13:42:10 GMT 1, personally i would rather see all artists price their work at a price that it takes a week or a month to sell out all the impressions. gives you a chance to consider it. talk it over. think about framing. etc. rather than trying to make a split second decision on a large purchase. look at all the art galleries in the world.. they dont have things priced so that they sell out instantly. i believe the reason there are some left is they are the weaker images. the impressions with stronger colors sold first - as they should have. strong images from FAILE will sell fine at this price point - for now - but who knows about the future. a run of 23 is practically an original in the art world these days -- id put even these weaker FAILE prints ahead of the last few from Banksy - (donuts/vlh) just an opinion of course :-)
personally i would rather see all artists price their work at a price that it takes a week or a month to sell out all the impressions. gives you a chance to consider it. talk it over. think about framing. etc. rather than trying to make a split second decision on a large purchase. look at all the art galleries in the world.. they dont have things priced so that they sell out instantly. i believe the reason there are some left is they are the weaker images. the impressions with stronger colors sold first - as they should have. strong images from FAILE will sell fine at this price point - for now - but who knows about the future. a run of 23 is practically an original in the art world these days -- id put even these weaker FAILE prints ahead of the last few from Banksy - (donuts/vlh) just an opinion of course :-)
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by alexnh123 on Mar 19, 2010 13:44:40 GMT 1, Free speech Ronald; Yes I do have strong beliefs, and I was prepared to air them. I'm well aware, and more than willing to accept that they are not beliefs shared by everyone, and Iβm glad of that (high 5 darhart!). I don't see how you can say my views are unfounded. They are no less valid than yours.
Ok; demise was the wrong, if not too strong a word to use. I simply mean Iβd like to see them brought down a peg or two; or at least see a levelling out of the hierarchy between Faile and Bast.
Each to their own though indeed.
It's just that for me; Faile are U2, whilst Bast is suitably more Iggy Pop or something! Definitely more punk anyway. Let's say; willing to be a little more dirty, exposed and unconventional. Both are talented; but Faile aren't willing to suffer for their work; I donβt know if Bast takes drugs (sometimes I wonder!) but I bet you Faile wouldnβt go that far for their work! With their success; I can only imagine they are going to get more and more commercial in their output. Faile are number one, x-factor winning radio 1 fodder, whereas Bast is 6 music β and we all know the arguments for fighting for 6 music! Long live 6 music.
Ron I look fwd to your predictable; βyouβre on drugs mateβ retorts!
Free speech Ronald; Yes I do have strong beliefs, and I was prepared to air them. I'm well aware, and more than willing to accept that they are not beliefs shared by everyone, and Iβm glad of that (high 5 darhart!). I don't see how you can say my views are unfounded. They are no less valid than yours.
Ok; demise was the wrong, if not too strong a word to use. I simply mean Iβd like to see them brought down a peg or two; or at least see a levelling out of the hierarchy between Faile and Bast.
Each to their own though indeed.
It's just that for me; Faile are U2, whilst Bast is suitably more Iggy Pop or something! Definitely more punk anyway. Let's say; willing to be a little more dirty, exposed and unconventional. Both are talented; but Faile aren't willing to suffer for their work; I donβt know if Bast takes drugs (sometimes I wonder!) but I bet you Faile wouldnβt go that far for their work! With their success; I can only imagine they are going to get more and more commercial in their output. Faile are number one, x-factor winning radio 1 fodder, whereas Bast is 6 music β and we all know the arguments for fighting for 6 music! Long live 6 music.
Ron I look fwd to your predictable; βyouβre on drugs mateβ retorts!
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Mar 19, 2010 13:57:48 GMT 1, Good post Daveart 
Yeah, I wonder that some Artists are afraid to price work that little bit higher, coz they know other Artists will happily undercut them and sell Art for practically cost to gain a following of collectors  Its a tricky game, but I think Faile are now well beyond worrying about stuff like that. Faile have solidly "Made it" and could easily sit back now and just sell Β£5,000+ pieces with very little problems.
Good post Daveart Yeah, I wonder that some Artists are afraid to price work that little bit higher, coz they know other Artists will happily undercut them and sell Art for practically cost to gain a following of collectors Its a tricky game, but I think Faile are now well beyond worrying about stuff like that. Faile have solidly "Made it" and could easily sit back now and just sell Β£5,000+ pieces with very little problems. |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by geoffw on Mar 19, 2010 14:09:09 GMT 1, Alex you're talking rubbish IMO. Faile haven't suffered for their art? Did you not notice they've just had a 10 year retrosepctive show on? 10 years is a long time to be making art, of any description and they didn't start on Day 1 with a sold out show with each print at Β£1000.
And to use your terrible analogy. Iggy Pop's punk huh? He suffered? Yeah he was in a "seminal" band (and i'm a huge fan) but he's now doing insurance ads to pay the bills.
This idea that there's something 'romantic' about suffering and struggling is always perpetrated by people who've never had to struggle a day in their lives to make ends meet or put food on the table.
Alex you're talking rubbish IMO. Faile haven't suffered for their art? Did you not notice they've just had a 10 year retrosepctive show on? 10 years is a long time to be making art, of any description and they didn't start on Day 1 with a sold out show with each print at Β£1000.
And to use your terrible analogy. Iggy Pop's punk huh? He suffered? Yeah he was in a "seminal" band (and i'm a huge fan) but he's now doing insurance ads to pay the bills.
This idea that there's something 'romantic' about suffering and struggling is always perpetrated by people who've never had to struggle a day in their lives to make ends meet or put food on the table.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by alexnh123 on Mar 19, 2010 14:11:12 GMT 1, it probably has, i wouldn't know.
Faile have been boring for the majority of those 10 years. They started out using clip art, then they watched a warhol dvd and started upping their game a bit, but you can't polish a turd.
Iggy pop was an example; there were better ones i could've used but i don't have all day to perfect my posts. (insert name of anyone who doesn't tailor their output to fit in with the requirements of capital fm's playlist). You know what i'm getting at.
Iggy is still grafting. His output has always been honest and heartfelt.
Faile now are tiresome.
Bast now is exciting and i think he should be recognised for that.
and there is something romantic about suffering, and or being rock n roll. Keith Richards. Basquiat; why are they so succesfu d'you think?
BAS-quia-T.
it probably has, i wouldn't know.
Faile have been boring for the majority of those 10 years. They started out using clip art, then they watched a warhol dvd and started upping their game a bit, but you can't polish a turd.
Iggy pop was an example; there were better ones i could've used but i don't have all day to perfect my posts. (insert name of anyone who doesn't tailor their output to fit in with the requirements of capital fm's playlist). You know what i'm getting at.
Iggy is still grafting. His output has always been honest and heartfelt.
Faile now are tiresome.
Bast now is exciting and i think he should be recognised for that.
and there is something romantic about suffering, and or being rock n roll. Keith Richards. Basquiat; why are they so succesfu d'you think?
BAS-quia-T.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on Mar 19, 2010 14:11:49 GMT 1, Faile Show β’ "A Decade Of Faile"
Faile & Bast β’ Deluxx Fluxx Arcade
Faile Show β’ "A Decade Of Faile"
Faile & Bast β’ Deluxx Fluxx Arcade
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Gentle Mental on Mar 19, 2010 14:27:11 GMT 1, Faile rocks. These are classics. I am poor. I feel like i'm Audrey staring into Tiffany's.... (but way uglier)
Faile rocks. These are classics. I am poor. I feel like i'm Audrey staring into Tiffany's.... (but way uglier)
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by jones27 on Mar 19, 2010 15:26:27 GMT 1, Faile rocks. These are classics. I am poor. I feel like i'm Audrey staring into Tiffany's.... (but way uglier)
hahahaa
Know the feeling mate..
Top film....Maybe we should prostitute ourselves too.
alexnh123 - I disagree with your points. I can only assume you've never seen a Faile print in person?
Faile rocks. These are classics. I am poor. I feel like i'm Audrey staring into Tiffany's.... (but way uglier) hahahaa Know the feeling mate.. Top film....Maybe we should prostitute ourselves too. alexnh123 - I disagree with your points. I can only assume you've never seen a Faile print in person? |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Guest on Mar 19, 2010 16:30:30 GMT 1, Alex you're talking rubbish IMO.
what he said.... are you on drugs alexis? seriously, its freedom of speech, you have youre view and i have mine.
and you forgot to answer the question, do you own lots of work by Bast?
Alex you're talking rubbish IMO. what he said.... are you on drugs alexis? seriously, its freedom of speech, you have youre view and i have mine. and you forgot to answer the question, do you own lots of work by Bast? |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by alexnh123 on Mar 19, 2010 16:53:42 GMT 1, no; i have to struggle every day of my life to make ends meet and put food on the table so i couldn't possibly afford lots of works by Bast.
no; i have to struggle every day of my life to make ends meet and put food on the table so i couldn't possibly afford lots of works by Bast.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Guest on Mar 19, 2010 16:59:51 GMT 1, fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it.
fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by alexnh123 on Mar 19, 2010 17:42:05 GMT 1, fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it.
Fair enough. My opinion is formed from many years of being passionately involved, as a fan and spectator, in the scene as a whole; seeing works in situ; seeing works others own, the few pieces i have; seeing works in galleries, shows, auctions; internet; books; photos; flickr, closeups etc etc.
i don't hate faile btw! i just prefer bast.
This conversation is over for everyone's sake!
fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it. Fair enough. My opinion is formed from many years of being passionately involved, as a fan and spectator, in the scene as a whole; seeing works in situ; seeing works others own, the few pieces i have; seeing works in galleries, shows, auctions; internet; books; photos; flickr, closeups etc etc. i don't hate faile btw! i just prefer bast. This conversation is over for everyone's sake! |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Guest on Mar 19, 2010 18:03:40 GMT 1, fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it. Fair enough. My opinion is formed from many years of being passionately involved, as a fan and spectator, in the scene as a whole; seeing works in situ; seeing works others own, the few pieces i have; seeing works in galleries, shows, auctions; internet; books; photos; flickr, closeups etc etc. i don't hate faile btw! i just prefer bast. This conversation is over for everyone's sake!
breathe in and out slowly alexis, youre going to have a siezure. over and out.
fair enough, just wondered how you come to have such a strong opinion on Basts work? Im a fan of him and Faile, although i think faile have the upperhand when it comes down to it. Fair enough. My opinion is formed from many years of being passionately involved, as a fan and spectator, in the scene as a whole; seeing works in situ; seeing works others own, the few pieces i have; seeing works in galleries, shows, auctions; internet; books; photos; flickr, closeups etc etc. i don't hate faile btw! i just prefer bast. This conversation is over for everyone's sake! breathe in and out slowly alexis, youre going to have a siezure. over and out. |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by volvic on Mar 19, 2010 18:04:52 GMT 1, faile hits the nail on the head on a more consistent level to bast but when bast gets it right its game over and the nail is firmly in the coffin
faile hits the nail on the head on a more consistent level to bast but when bast gets it right its game over and the nail is firmly in the coffin |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Guest on Mar 19, 2010 18:08:24 GMT 1, haha, well put mate!
haha, well put mate!
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by James Smith 77 on Mar 19, 2010 18:09:32 GMT 1, Neither have anything for me
Neither have anything for me
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by afroken on Mar 19, 2010 18:11:58 GMT 1, Agree with Volvic. A small percentage of BAST's work is so sublime that it blows Faile out of the water, but an equal percentage is also crap. BAST is unpredictable; Faile are more consistent but also very repetitive.
The way I see it, BAST is bipolar and Faile are on Prozac, figuratively speaking. I find the former more exciting personally.
Agree with Volvic. A small percentage of BAST's work is so sublime that it blows Faile out of the water, but an equal percentage is also crap. BAST is unpredictable; Faile are more consistent but also very repetitive.
The way I see it, BAST is bipolar and Faile are on Prozac, figuratively speaking. I find the former more exciting personally.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by fool4faile on Mar 19, 2010 19:13:11 GMT 1, I think this whole BΓ€st VERSUS FAILE- talk is a bit made up out of thin air because obviously the guys themselves get along very well with each other and mix 'n match their art equitable in their "Deluxx Fluxx" exhibition... 
I think this whole BΓ€st VERSUS FAILE- talk is a bit made up out of thin air because obviously the guys themselves get along very well with each other and mix 'n match their art equitable in their "Deluxx Fluxx" exhibition... |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by wimpy on Mar 19, 2010 20:51:27 GMT 1, This thread reminds me of Faile threads on here in early/mid 2007.
Let us see who is singing the same tune come the end of 2010 after everything else that was mentioned in their email.
This thread reminds me of Faile threads on here in early/mid 2007.
Let us see who is singing the same tune come the end of 2010 after everything else that was mentioned in their email.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by lalinea on Mar 19, 2010 21:05:20 GMT 1, Not really feeling their new images.
They didn't make their $151K as quick this time...................
Not really feeling their new images.
They didn't make their $151K as quick this time...................
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by cannaebefannied on Mar 22, 2010 13:07:59 GMT 1, vaidade looks lazy; the tiger face doesn't sit right imo. I think these guys are stuck up their own rses in terms of their pricing structure. Bast p.i.sse.s on these guys; and i get the impression they sort of patronise him with their higher profile, which I don't think they quite warrant. Bastβs one man efforts are loaded with so much more raw energy than anything the Patrick duo, and no doubt their assistants throw together. They've got too comfortable churning out this graphic design. Needless to say i won't be buying this or anything from them and i sort of look fwd to their demise. Bast is slowly knocking them off the pedestal that they've put themselves on. You can go ahead and shoot me down, but Iβm wearing a bullet proof vest on this one! (Iβm the terminator, you can't kill me!)
Street piece in Berlin, looks good on the wall
vaidade looks lazy; the tiger face doesn't sit right imo. I think these guys are stuck up their own rses in terms of their pricing structure. Bast p.i.sse.s on these guys; and i get the impression they sort of patronise him with their higher profile, which I don't think they quite warrant. Bastβs one man efforts are loaded with so much more raw energy than anything the Patrick duo, and no doubt their assistants throw together. They've got too comfortable churning out this graphic design. Needless to say i won't be buying this or anything from them and i sort of look fwd to their demise. Bast is slowly knocking them off the pedestal that they've put themselves on. You can go ahead and shoot me down, but Iβm wearing a bullet proof vest on this one! (Iβm the terminator, you can't kill me!) Street piece in Berlin, looks good on the wall |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by jones27 on Mar 22, 2010 13:25:22 GMT 1, The best release this year is actually free. The Bast screen saver (via deluxe arcade site) is class. And has converted a few friends of mine to his work. Watch those eye's swing !
The best release this year is actually free. The Bast screen saver (via deluxe arcade site) is class. And has converted a few friends of mine to his work. Watch those eye's swing !
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by oneeye on Mar 22, 2010 15:15:16 GMT 1, For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful.
I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does.
For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful.
I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does.
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Francis on Mar 23, 2010 18:37:51 GMT 1, For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful. I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does.
you are such a horny guy
For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful. I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does. you are such a horny guy |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by wimpy on Mar 23, 2010 18:54:31 GMT 1, For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful. I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does. you are such a horny guy
Who says it is a guy?
For me, you can't compare Bast to Faile as I have a serious affinity for their women. Whether they're on horseback, desiring hanging bananas, devouring a bunny or simply shedding a tear, I am hopelessly devoted to them. Always have been. They're images are striking and beautiful. I don't find anything beautiful in Bast's work, but can appreciate what he does. you are such a horny guy Who says it is a guy? |
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by Francis on Mar 24, 2010 1:29:52 GMT 1,
girls don't get horny
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by oneeye on Mar 24, 2010 5:06:24 GMT 1,
On roofies they do!
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by grantb on Mar 24, 2010 9:34:05 GMT 1,
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Faile πΊπΈ New Print Release β’ Show News β’ Art For Sale, by wimpy on Mar 31, 2010 8:39:01 GMT 1, 
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Simple as that! Yes, I know your gonna say you can get pieces on ebay cheaper, and your probably right 
Its a tricky game, but I think Faile are now well beyond worrying about stuff like that. Faile have solidly "Made it" and could easily sit back now and just sell Β£5,000+ pieces with very little problems. 
