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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 25, 2007 23:25:03 GMT 1, I've bought from them in the past - last one in july
YOU CAN FORGET IT IF YOU ARE EVEN REMOTELY THINKING ABOUT GETTING ANY SEMBLANCE OF A DEAL.
You'll be paying a premium price. That is, pretty much higher than anywhere else. Its for people who have disposable cash - peeps who don't follow day to day the prices on ebay...
Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks!
I've bought from them in the past - last one in july YOU CAN FORGET IT IF YOU ARE EVEN REMOTELY THINKING ABOUT GETTING ANY SEMBLANCE OF A DEAL. You'll be paying a premium price. That is, pretty much higher than anywhere else. Its for people who have disposable cash - peeps who don't follow day to day the prices on ebay... Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks! |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by RBK on Sept 25, 2007 23:27:39 GMT 1, And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points?
This is the question I'm most interested in getting an answer to.
And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? This is the question I'm most interested in getting an answer to. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by headphonesex on Sept 25, 2007 23:37:18 GMT 1, I've bought from them in the past - last one in july YOU CAN FORGET IT IF YOU ARE EVEN REMOTELY THINKING ABOUT GETTING ANY SEMBLANCE OF A DEAL. You'll be paying a premium price. That is, pretty much higher than anywhere else. Its for people who have disposable cash - peeps who don't follow day to day the prices on ebay... Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks!
Also bear in mind that:
"If your bid is successful a premium of 19% (on the first ยฃ150,000 of a single lot and 10% thereafter) will be added to the hammer price."
I've bought from them in the past - last one in july YOU CAN FORGET IT IF YOU ARE EVEN REMOTELY THINKING ABOUT GETTING ANY SEMBLANCE OF A DEAL. You'll be paying a premium price. That is, pretty much higher than anywhere else. Its for people who have disposable cash - peeps who don't follow day to day the prices on ebay... Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks! Also bear in mind that: "If your bid is successful a premium of 19% (on the first ยฃ150,000 of a single lot and 10% thereafter) will be added to the hammer price." |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by RBK on Sept 25, 2007 23:42:16 GMT 1, That's why I'm trying to figure out if it is even worth it to register - if they start the auctions at the low estimate amount it's probably not worth it. A bunch for sale on the 12th.
That's why I'm trying to figure out if it is even worth it to register - if they start the auctions at the low estimate amount it's probably not worth it. A bunch for sale on the 12th.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by pezlow on Sept 26, 2007 7:10:21 GMT 1, They will probably run the auction through liveauction on ebay rk. They do start the initial bids at slightly lower than estimate unless they have more than one commission bid on the books. Bobby's comments are right, certainly for the banksy prints. If you are after some other artists who are not so hot there are bargains to be had....
They will probably run the auction through liveauction on ebay rk. They do start the initial bids at slightly lower than estimate unless they have more than one commission bid on the books. Bobby's comments are right, certainly for the banksy prints. If you are after some other artists who are not so hot there are bargains to be had....
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by christoffero on Sept 26, 2007 7:50:23 GMT 1, I watched the last auction at Bloomsbury and was logged on to bid.
It's certainly the place to sell as the prices went mad.
The prices on ebay for Micallef and others including the Hirst exhibition posters shot up within hours on the back of it.
I watched the last auction at Bloomsbury and was logged on to bid.
It's certainly the place to sell as the prices went mad.
The prices on ebay for Micallef and others including the Hirst exhibition posters shot up within hours on the back of it.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by pw on Sept 26, 2007 8:05:42 GMT 1, www.bloomsburyauctions.com/detail/627/192.0
I love the fact the a Morons is being sold at auction. I wonder if bidders will be put off!
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by JD on Sept 26, 2007 8:23:03 GMT 1,
LOL
If I was the auctioneer I would have to have a little dig, wouldnt you? 
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by trowel on Sept 26, 2007 13:32:14 GMT 1, Some of their estimates seem a little off - Soup Can just ยฃ800-ยฃ1200 (ed. 250) compared with Flags at ยฃ800-ยฃ1000 (ed. 1000)? Golf Sale (ed.750) double what it should be at ยฃ2000-ยฃ3000?!
And No-One Understands Me ยฃ1500-ยฃ2000 (ed. 95) compared with Judgement Day ยฃ1800-ยฃ2200 (ed. 500)?!
Some of their estimates seem a little off - Soup Can just ยฃ800-ยฃ1200 (ed. 250) compared with Flags at ยฃ800-ยฃ1000 (ed. 1000)? Golf Sale (ed.750) double what it should be at ยฃ2000-ยฃ3000?!
And No-One Understands Me ยฃ1500-ยฃ2000 (ed. 95) compared with Judgement Day ยฃ1800-ยฃ2200 (ed. 500)?!
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by pw on Sept 26, 2007 13:44:02 GMT 1, Some of their estimates seem a little off - Soup Can just ยฃ800-ยฃ1200 (ed. 250) compared with Flags at ยฃ800-ยฃ1000 (ed. 1000)? Golf Sale (ed.750) double what it should be at ยฃ2000-ยฃ3000?! And No-One Understands Me ยฃ1500-ยฃ2000 (ed. 95) compared with Judgement Day ยฃ1800-ยฃ2200 (ed. 500)?!
they normally keep the estimates low. they would say it helps attract interest but if i was being cynical I'd say that it also means that they will almost definately sell and therefore their commission is assured. the higher estimates may be on the insistence of the seller. or maybe bloomsbury just didnt put much thought into it. 
Some of their estimates seem a little off - Soup Can just ยฃ800-ยฃ1200 (ed. 250) compared with Flags at ยฃ800-ยฃ1000 (ed. 1000)? Golf Sale (ed.750) double what it should be at ยฃ2000-ยฃ3000?! And No-One Understands Me ยฃ1500-ยฃ2000 (ed. 95) compared with Judgement Day ยฃ1800-ยฃ2200 (ed. 500)?! they normally keep the estimates low. they would say it helps attract interest but if i was being cynical I'd say that it also means that they will almost definately sell and therefore their commission is assured. the higher estimates may be on the insistence of the seller. or maybe bloomsbury just didnt put much thought into it. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by bobbymeachamjr on Sept 26, 2007 15:13:19 GMT 1, as I recall the lower estimates are for insurance purposes - the havey lower estimates = lower insurance fees.
as I recall the lower estimates are for insurance purposes - the havey lower estimates = lower insurance fees.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by jipsy on Sept 26, 2007 15:16:56 GMT 1, Can the seller put a minimum sale price on his prints or is it just what the highest bid is?
You could ge stuffed if the right people aren't in the room.
Almost like an auction I suppose .
Can the seller put a minimum sale price on his prints or is it just what the highest bid is? You could ge stuffed if the right people aren't in the room. Almost like an auction I suppose . |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by crazyhorse on Sept 26, 2007 15:18:33 GMT 1, Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks!
All auctions start at below lower estimate which is effectively the reserve price. Many auction houses also typically sell at 10% below the lower estimate too - it just varies from auction house to auction house, from item to item and from vendor to vendor. Hope this helps!
Has anyone bought anything through Bloomsbury Auctions before? And do they start the bidding at their low estimate number, or at more 'reasonable' starting points? Thanks! All auctions start at below lower estimate which is effectively the reserve price. Many auction houses also typically sell at 10% below the lower estimate too - it just varies from auction house to auction house, from item to item and from vendor to vendor. Hope this helps! |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by pezlow on Sept 26, 2007 15:23:46 GMT 1, Can the seller put a minimum sale price on his prints or is it just what the highest bid is? You could ge stuffed if the right people aren't in the room. Almost like an auction I suppose .
All auction houses will allow you to set a reserve on a piece, although often the auctioneer will exercise his discretion and sell at, say 90% of the reserve.
The big auction houses charge you an unsold fee if the item you are selling does not hit its reserve 
Can the seller put a minimum sale price on his prints or is it just what the highest bid is? You could ge stuffed if the right people aren't in the room. Almost like an auction I suppose . All auction houses will allow you to set a reserve on a piece, although often the auctioneer will exercise his discretion and sell at, say 90% of the reserve. The big auction houses charge you an unsold fee if the item you are selling does not hit its reserve |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by uglyiq on Sept 27, 2007 14:18:51 GMT 1, ...just to confirm what been said here before, this comes from Bloomsbury contact...
'Bidding starts well below the the low estimate unless two confirmed bidders have already
raised the bar before bidding officially starts'
...just to confirm what been said here before, this comes from Bloomsbury contact...
'Bidding starts well below the the low estimate unless two confirmed bidders have already
raised the bar before bidding officially starts'
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Montubu7 on Sept 27, 2007 17:39:17 GMT 1, Is there still time to put something up for auction?
Is there still time to put something up for auction?
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by pw on Sept 27, 2007 18:32:26 GMT 1, Is there still time to put something up for auction?
way too late. the catalouge has already been sent out. got mine yesterday!
Is there still time to put something up for auction? way too late. the catalouge has already been sent out. got mine yesterday! |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Sept 28, 2007 8:39:31 GMT 1, they have another in November, which closes in about 3 weeks
they have another in November, which closes in about 3 weeks
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Montubu7 on Sept 28, 2007 10:48:36 GMT 1, Cheers guys...
Cheers guys...
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by crimewave2007 on Sept 28, 2007 10:53:43 GMT 1, ive brought from bloombury before there a class auction site full of pretty woman wearing black leather jackets class joint
ive brought from bloombury before there a class auction site full of pretty woman wearing black leather jackets class joint
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Oct 9, 2007 16:46:01 GMT 1, Went to view this today, some really great things. Banksys and Micallefs all look pretty awesome, though I have my eye on the Sarah Lucas portraits, have always loved those.
Went to view this today, some really great things. Banksys and Micallefs all look pretty awesome, though I have my eye on the Sarah Lucas portraits, have always loved those.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 7:11:59 GMT 1, Any mention on these forums about the overall weak sales at Bloomsbury last week?
A Banksy canvas went for ยฃ12k I think - the opening bid was supposed to be twice that but got cut due to weak prices. Applause went for ยฃ500 a Signed Grannies went for ยฃ3000 ...which means the seller will get net about ยฃ2500! Although a couple prints did sell well.
BUT a 21CL litho went for only ยฃ3800!!!
Like I said before ...the party's over.
You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.
Glad to see things cooling off and send a message to the flippers and speculators that there's no such thing as a sure bet in art. Not even with the coveted Banksy.
Any mention on these forums about the overall weak sales at Bloomsbury last week?
A Banksy canvas went for ยฃ12k I think - the opening bid was supposed to be twice that but got cut due to weak prices. Applause went for ยฃ500 a Signed Grannies went for ยฃ3000 ...which means the seller will get net about ยฃ2500! Although a couple prints did sell well.
BUT a 21CL litho went for only ยฃ3800!!!
Like I said before ...the party's over.
You don't have to go home but you can't stay here.
Glad to see things cooling off and send a message to the flippers and speculators that there's no such thing as a sure bet in art. Not even with the coveted Banksy.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 8:08:33 GMT 1, Any mention on these forums about the overall weak sales at Bloomsbury last week? A Banksy canvas went for ยฃ12k I think - the opening bid was supposed to be twice that but got cut due to weak prices. Applause went for ยฃ500 a Signed Grannies went for ยฃ3000 ...which means the seller will get net about ยฃ2500! Although a couple prints did sell well. BUT a 21CL litho went for only ยฃ3800!!! Like I said before ...the party's over. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. Glad to see things cooling off and send a message to the flippers and speculators that there's no such thing as a sure bet in art. Not even with the coveted Banksy.
Party's over ? ha ha.. it's only just begun mate. Bloomsbury auction was a shambles..a bunch of unsigned prints, a BBQ top without prov and one unframed HW. And held at probably the most exciting week for art all year. Massive competition from everywhere...there just wasn't the interest from punters to go to the auction... badly timed, badly promoted, nothing to get people in..
The Canvas you mention didn't sell (28k reserve), The 21stC didn't sell (6k reserve), Grannies 3k...no big deal.. Applause 750 with premium etc..
So sorry dude.. as for the party analogy.. not much of a party, you seen the price of the drinks ?
Any mention on these forums about the overall weak sales at Bloomsbury last week? A Banksy canvas went for ยฃ12k I think - the opening bid was supposed to be twice that but got cut due to weak prices. Applause went for ยฃ500 a Signed Grannies went for ยฃ3000 ...which means the seller will get net about ยฃ2500! Although a couple prints did sell well. BUT a 21CL litho went for only ยฃ3800!!! Like I said before ...the party's over. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here. Glad to see things cooling off and send a message to the flippers and speculators that there's no such thing as a sure bet in art. Not even with the coveted Banksy. Party's over ? ha ha.. it's only just begun mate. Bloomsbury auction was a shambles..a bunch of unsigned prints, a BBQ top without prov and one unframed HW. And held at probably the most exciting week for art all year. Massive competition from everywhere...there just wasn't the interest from punters to go to the auction... badly timed, badly promoted, nothing to get people in.. The Canvas you mention didn't sell (28k reserve), The 21stC didn't sell (6k reserve), Grannies 3k...no big deal.. Applause 750 with premium etc.. So sorry dude.. as for the party analogy.. not much of a party, you seen the price of the drinks ? |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 14:26:48 GMT 1, ha ha... If there was a 28k reserve on the canvas why did the opening bid get slashed from 24k to 12k?
Anyway it doesn't matter you can put a reserve of a million on your print, who cares, the point is this stuff isn't even coming close to the reserve price that the greedy ass sellers are asking for. Serves them right as they'll now have to pay an auction fee and expenses even if it didn't sell. Applause may have been ยฃ750 with premium but the seller took home about ยฃ400! That's the main point. (That people are and may be taking a loss  ) And the other point is that this stuff isn't exactly a slam dunk in the fickle fine art community.
You can try and make excuses about "competition" and that's why prices are hurting not just there but on ebay as well. If you don't want to see the writing on the wall I can't help you. And I hope all of the folks that were screaming don't sell your prints now! (two-three months ago when prices were loopy) Because there's no place to go but up and they'll be worth even more in a couple more months โ get their arse handed to them.
ha ha... If there was a 28k reserve on the canvas why did the opening bid get slashed from 24k to 12k? Anyway it doesn't matter you can put a reserve of a million on your print, who cares, the point is this stuff isn't even coming close to the reserve price that the greedy ass sellers are asking for. Serves them right as they'll now have to pay an auction fee and expenses even if it didn't sell. Applause may have been ยฃ750 with premium but the seller took home about ยฃ400! That's the main point. (That people are and may be taking a loss ) And the other point is that this stuff isn't exactly a slam dunk in the fickle fine art community. You can try and make excuses about "competition" and that's why prices are hurting not just there but on ebay as well. If you don't want to see the writing on the wall I can't help you. And I hope all of the folks that were screaming don't sell your prints now! (two-three months ago when prices were loopy) Because there's no place to go but up and they'll be worth even more in a couple more months โ get their arse handed to them. |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by numusic on Oct 14, 2007 15:38:49 GMT 1, ha ha... If there was a 28k reserve on the canvas why did the opening bid get slashed from 24k to 12k? Anyway it doesn't matter you can put a reserve of a million on your print, who cares, the point is this stuff isn't even coming close to the reserve price that the greedy ass sellers are asking for. Serves them right as they'll now have to pay an auction fee and expenses even if it didn't sell. Applause may have been ยฃ750 with premium but the seller took home about ยฃ400! That's the main point. (That people are and may be taking a loss ) And the other point is that this stuff isn't exactly a slam dunk in the fickle fine art community. You can try and make excuses about "competition" and that's why prices are hurting not just there but on ebay as well. If you don't want to see the writing on the wall I can't help you. And I hope all of the folks that were screaming don't sell your prints now! (two-three months ago when prices were loopy) Because there's no place to go but up and they'll be worth even more in a couple more months โ get their arse handed to them. And go on, keep on negging, yeah! Very mature ...
ahh, i get it. You don't have any and wish you did right ?. Sorry, mybad thought you were into Banksy and maybe bought some years ago for 50 quid.. oh, sorry again, not years.. year.. 74.99 last year weren't they. So you see, people into Banksy's work and values.. well.. they don't really give a toss how much it's worth, not really, it's been a nice interesting bonus seeing them go up, it'll be equally interesting seeing em come down. So hopefully people who want to support the work, can get one too. Maybe your rage should be directed on another forum...
ha ha... If there was a 28k reserve on the canvas why did the opening bid get slashed from 24k to 12k? Anyway it doesn't matter you can put a reserve of a million on your print, who cares, the point is this stuff isn't even coming close to the reserve price that the greedy ass sellers are asking for. Serves them right as they'll now have to pay an auction fee and expenses even if it didn't sell. Applause may have been ยฃ750 with premium but the seller took home about ยฃ400! That's the main point. (That people are and may be taking a loss ) And the other point is that this stuff isn't exactly a slam dunk in the fickle fine art community. You can try and make excuses about "competition" and that's why prices are hurting not just there but on ebay as well. If you don't want to see the writing on the wall I can't help you. And I hope all of the folks that were screaming don't sell your prints now! (two-three months ago when prices were loopy) Because there's no place to go but up and they'll be worth even more in a couple more months โ get their arse handed to them. And go on, keep on negging, yeah! Very mature ... ahh, i get it. You don't have any and wish you did right ?. Sorry, mybad thought you were into Banksy and maybe bought some years ago for 50 quid.. oh, sorry again, not years.. year.. 74.99 last year weren't they. So you see, people into Banksy's work and values.. well.. they don't really give a toss how much it's worth, not really, it's been a nice interesting bonus seeing them go up, it'll be equally interesting seeing em come down. So hopefully people who want to support the work, can get one too. Maybe your rage should be directed on another forum... |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 15:54:03 GMT 1,
Are you ranting? Venting? What's your point? I've seen plenty of people who bought Banksy prints for 50 quid come on this forum and try to squeeze thousands out of people. Are these the people into "Banksy's work and values" you speak of? You got a point?
Are you ranting? Venting? What's your point? I've seen plenty of people who bought Banksy prints for 50 quid come on this forum and try to squeeze thousands out of people. Are these the people into "Banksy's work and values" you speak of? You got a point? |
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by bobbymeachamjr on Oct 14, 2007 17:19:13 GMT 1, I've already stated my position that there will be many 5 dollar bins for prints selling currently for hundreds @retail. It'll take another 2-3 years. That said theres still plenty of "money to be made" right now. Signed Trolleys will easily sell for 5K gbp. The notion of "The Canvas you mention didn't sell (28k reserve), The 21stC didn't sell (6k reserve)..." is absurd - ITS BAD THAT IT DIDNT SELL Lol. Worth repeating, something is worth as much as somebody is willing to pay for it
I've already stated my position that there will be many 5 dollar bins for prints selling currently for hundreds @retail. It'll take another 2-3 years. That said theres still plenty of "money to be made" right now. Signed Trolleys will easily sell for 5K gbp. The notion of "The Canvas you mention didn't sell (28k reserve), The 21stC didn't sell (6k reserve)..." is absurd - ITS BAD THAT IT DIDNT SELL Lol. Worth repeating, something is worth as much as somebody is willing to pay for it
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 17:38:06 GMT 1, Who cares about the reserve. The point is it could ony fetch ยฃ3800 for a 21CL at an esteemed auction house where typically prices are MUCH higher than ebay. When something gets "bought in" at auction or the opening bid gets halved it's a bad thing and people notice.
And sure trolleys is obviously going to be a slam dunk if you're one of the 1 in 100 people that will score one off of POW, duh. What's NOT a slam dunk is buying one off of ebay for ยฃ5000 next month and thinking it will double again in a month or even a year. It might, sure, but after the past couple weeks, folks better realize now that you can lose money buying and selling Banksy prints. Several people just lost a lot of money after the Bloomsbury auctions.
Who cares about the reserve. The point is it could ony fetch ยฃ3800 for a 21CL at an esteemed auction house where typically prices are MUCH higher than ebay. When something gets "bought in" at auction or the opening bid gets halved it's a bad thing and people notice.
And sure trolleys is obviously going to be a slam dunk if you're one of the 1 in 100 people that will score one off of POW, duh. What's NOT a slam dunk is buying one off of ebay for ยฃ5000 next month and thinking it will double again in a month or even a year. It might, sure, but after the past couple weeks, folks better realize now that you can lose money buying and selling Banksy prints. Several people just lost a lot of money after the Bloomsbury auctions.
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Bloomsbury Auctions ๐ฌ๐ง, by endtimes on Oct 14, 2007 17:41:54 GMT 1, And thanks for the negs folks. Personally I'll refrain from using the system at all.
And thanks for the negs folks. Personally I'll refrain from using the system at all.
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) And the other point is that this stuff isn't exactly a slam dunk in the fickle fine art community. 
