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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by carlito on Sept 22, 2008 13:35:35 GMT 1, I'm not cirticizing the pricing...just think ppl saying by putting it at a certain price it'll make the real fans buy....just find that lame...
having said that...weaker image / large edition....
I'm not cirticizing the pricing...just think ppl saying by putting it at a certain price it'll make the real fans buy....just find that lame...
having said that...weaker image / large edition....
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 22, 2008 13:35:45 GMT 1, the stupidest reason I ever heard for pricing...so it's for the 'real fans'....
the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artists
the stupidest reason I ever heard for pricing...so it's for the 'real fans'.... the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artists
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Heavyconsumer on Sept 22, 2008 13:48:12 GMT 1, the stupidest reason I ever heard for pricing...so it's for the 'real fans'.... the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artists
With the greatest of respect Ron, an overwhealming majority of artists do not manage to sell out there first ever print edition of 100 at ยฃ275 each!
I respect and enjoy this artist's work, but I genuinly felt that his 1st print was priced a good ยฃ100 or so too high, even considering the methodology/process. Whatever happened to prices getting to a certain level, based on a body of work put together over time? The answer is, "nothing, but POW can charge what they like and SOME/enough people will pay it, in the hope that their purchase becomes profitable, regardless of the art" IMHO of course.
That said, had I had a chance to think about it and really digest the image, I still would have bought Vhils' 1st release, because the image alone would have swayed me, but ยฃ275 is a significant amount of ยฃยฃยฃ to me and not an amount of money I'd like to regret having spent later, so no snap decisions for me. At ยฃ150 I'd have had it and maybe even this one as well.
the stupidest reason I ever heard for pricing...so it's for the 'real fans'.... the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artistsWith the greatest of respect Ron, an overwhealming majority of artists do not manage to sell out there first ever print edition of 100 at ยฃ275 each! I respect and enjoy this artist's work, but I genuinly felt that his 1st print was priced a good ยฃ100 or so too high, even considering the methodology/process. Whatever happened to prices getting to a certain level, based on a body of work put together over time? The answer is, "nothing, but POW can charge what they like and SOME/enough people will pay it, in the hope that their purchase becomes profitable, regardless of the art" IMHO of course. That said, had I had a chance to think about it and really digest the image, I still would have bought Vhils' 1st release, because the image alone would have swayed me, but ยฃ275 is a significant amount of ยฃยฃยฃ to me and not an amount of money I'd like to regret having spent later, so no snap decisions for me. At ยฃ150 I'd have had it and maybe even this one as well.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 22, 2008 14:06:22 GMT 1, the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artistsWith the greatest of respect Ron, an overwhealming majority of artists do not manage to sell out there first ever print edition of 100 at ยฃ275 each! I respect and enjoy this artist's work, but I genuinly felt that his 1st print was priced a good ยฃ100 or so too high, even considering the methodology/process. Whatever happened to prices getting to a certain level, based on a body of work put together over time? The answer is, "nothing, but POW can charge what they like and SOME/enough people will pay it, in the hope that their purchase becomes profitable, regardless of the art" IMHO of course. That said, had I had a chance to think about it and really digest the image, I still would have bought Vhils' 1st release, because the image alone would have swayed me, but ยฃ275 is a significant amount of ยฃยฃยฃ to me and not an amount of money I'd like to regret having spent later, so no snap decisions for me. At ยฃ150 I'd have had it and maybe even this one as well.
reread your post HC
the pricing has more to do with market value, from the last release the edition has increased by 50 prints for the same price. Im sure this will happen with future releases. I really cant understand why people are moaning about the price. It happens with all artistsWith the greatest of respect Ron, an overwhealming majority of artists do not manage to sell out there first ever print edition of 100 at ยฃ275 each! I respect and enjoy this artist's work, but I genuinly felt that his 1st print was priced a good ยฃ100 or so too high, even considering the methodology/process. Whatever happened to prices getting to a certain level, based on a body of work put together over time? The answer is, "nothing, but POW can charge what they like and SOME/enough people will pay it, in the hope that their purchase becomes profitable, regardless of the art" IMHO of course. That said, had I had a chance to think about it and really digest the image, I still would have bought Vhils' 1st release, because the image alone would have swayed me, but ยฃ275 is a significant amount of ยฃยฃยฃ to me and not an amount of money I'd like to regret having spent later, so no snap decisions for me. At ยฃ150 I'd have had it and maybe even this one as well. reread your post HC
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Heavyconsumer on Sept 22, 2008 15:12:29 GMT 1, [quote author=ronhill board=general thread=25856 post=376479 time=1222088782
reread your post HC [/quote]
Yup, a bit self contradictory I guess . While I gladly accept that Vhils is not a run of the mill talent and so his art commands higher than run of the mill prices, I stand by my opinion that for a 1st ever print release in an edition of 100, ยฃ275 was an awful lot of money to ask. Had it been released by ANYONE other than POW, I do not believe it would have sold out on the 1st day, let alone within the 1st half hour. But as stated, I am not a detractor of the lad's work, it's refreshing, striking, attractive and I do enjoy seeing it. I just feel, as I know some others do too, that POW's prices are a tad high pretty much across the board. That said, I do hoe that Vhils goes on to develop his talent further, because some of his work so far has been special. (I think my favourite so far is the Graffle piece)
[quote author=ronhill board=general thread=25856 post=376479 time=1222088782 reread your post HC [/quote] Yup, a bit self contradictory I guess . While I gladly accept that Vhils is not a run of the mill talent and so his art commands higher than run of the mill prices, I stand by my opinion that for a 1st ever print release in an edition of 100, ยฃ275 was an awful lot of money to ask. Had it been released by ANYONE other than POW, I do not believe it would have sold out on the 1st day, let alone within the 1st half hour. But as stated, I am not a detractor of the lad's work, it's refreshing, striking, attractive and I do enjoy seeing it. I just feel, as I know some others do too, that POW's prices are a tad high pretty much across the board. That said, I do hoe that Vhils goes on to develop his talent further, because some of his work so far has been special. (I think my favourite so far is the Graffle piece)
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Ruggs on Sept 23, 2008 21:55:46 GMT 1, 3 'Unknown Icon' available at POW! Be quick!
3 'Unknown Icon' available at POW! Be quick!
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by mydeaddogwontwoof on Sept 24, 2008 19:24:42 GMT 1, Original from the Laz NY show, similar (if not the same) subject as the print...
Original from the Laz NY show, similar (if not the same) subject as the print...
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by chrisps303 on Sept 25, 2008 19:38:25 GMT 1, There is a few of these just popped up on pow if anybody missed out, save having to buy of fleabay.
There is a few of these just popped up on pow if anybody missed out, save having to buy of fleabay.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 25, 2008 20:49:50 GMT 1, Original from the Laz NY show, similar (if not the same) subject as the print...
that is great ;D
Original from the Laz NY show, similar (if not the same) subject as the print... that is great ;D
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Grafter on Sept 30, 2008 10:40:55 GMT 1, My tube from POW dropped today and the Vhils is really stunning. However, I can't make out whether one part of it, the bottom left of the chin, is damaged or it's supposed to look like that. Anyone else got a similar mark on their one...
My tube from POW dropped today and the Vhils is really stunning. However, I can't make out whether one part of it, the bottom left of the chin, is damaged or it's supposed to look like that. Anyone else got a similar mark on their one...
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Wiseblood on Sept 30, 2008 10:44:27 GMT 1, id say it was damaged, if you look at the enlarged pic on pow, there isnt this mark, but then it is made with bleach so no all going to be the same
id say it was damaged, if you look at the enlarged pic on pow, there isnt this mark, but then it is made with bleach so no all going to be the same
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 30, 2008 10:45:58 GMT 1, if your not happy return it, they are all different. but yours looks like its damaged. gonna check mine now, to see if its the same.
if your not happy return it, they are all different. but yours looks like its damaged. gonna check mine now, to see if its the same.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by carlito on Sept 30, 2008 10:51:09 GMT 1, looking at that part and the area below same colour etc...I'd say part of the print...but i guess running your finger over it to see if it's been dinked / torn may give you the answer?
looking at that part and the area below same colour etc...I'd say part of the print...but i guess running your finger over it to see if it's been dinked / torn may give you the answer?
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 30, 2008 10:58:49 GMT 1, mine has a couple of extra splatts of bleach but not on the image, but has no scrapes or dings.
mine has a couple of extra splatts of bleach but not on the image, but has no scrapes or dings.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by K-Guy on Sept 30, 2008 11:00:18 GMT 1, I reckon... due to the unscientific process used to create these prints i.e. forcing bleach through a silk screen, it looks to me like a blob has landed on the print and caused a mark - difficult to clarify without seeing it in the flesh. Cracking print though!
I reckon... due to the unscientific process used to create these prints i.e. forcing bleach through a silk screen, it looks to me like a blob has landed on the print and caused a mark - difficult to clarify without seeing it in the flesh. Cracking print though!
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Grafter on Sept 30, 2008 11:04:23 GMT 1, The paper is perfectly flat and not damaged in any way, which makes me think it's part of the print. Completley love the overall image, just wish the blemish wasn't so obvious.
The paper is perfectly flat and not damaged in any way, which makes me think it's part of the print. Completley love the overall image, just wish the blemish wasn't so obvious.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by jon11 on Sept 30, 2008 11:05:00 GMT 1, i thought you were a street artist grafter? - why the call for uniformity and disregard for the hand pulled finish and process?
you can see the bright blue showing through and many parts of the print seem distressed in that way - whats the problem? stick to clinton cards or athena if thats the finish you're after
lets hope people dont have the same quibbles when receiving your works - your posty will have repetitive strain injury otherwise
i thought you were a street artist grafter? - why the call for uniformity and disregard for the hand pulled finish and process?
you can see the bright blue showing through and many parts of the print seem distressed in that way - whats the problem? stick to clinton cards or athena if thats the finish you're after
lets hope people dont have the same quibbles when receiving your works - your posty will have repetitive strain injury otherwise
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Deleted on Sept 30, 2008 11:06:16 GMT 1, Handfinish it yourself... blob that blemish. Have to agree with Jon11 though really, it adds a bit of character.
Handfinish it yourself... blob that blemish. Have to agree with Jon11 though really, it adds a bit of character.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 30, 2008 11:09:41 GMT 1, i thought you were a street artist grafter? - why the call for uniformity and disregard for the hand pulled finish and process? you can see the bright blue showing through and many parts of the print seem distressed in that way - whats the problem? stick to clinton cards or athena if thats the finish you're after lets hope people dont have the same quibbles when receiving your works - your posty will have repetitive strain injury otherwise
take it easy mate, really no need for it. if the print has damage i would send it back and im sure you would do the same.
i thought you were a street artist grafter? - why the call for uniformity and disregard for the hand pulled finish and process? you can see the bright blue showing through and many parts of the print seem distressed in that way - whats the problem? stick to clinton cards or athena if thats the finish you're after lets hope people dont have the same quibbles when receiving your works - your posty will have repetitive strain injury otherwise take it easy mate, really no need for it. if the print has damage i would send it back and im sure you would do the same.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Happy Shopper on Sept 30, 2008 11:13:13 GMT 1, Looks like an imperfection in the hand made image, but not damage. If it's approved by the artist as one of the edition, and not a reject, then I think it's OK.
Looks like an imperfection in the hand made image, but not damage. If it's approved by the artist as one of the edition, and not a reject, then I think it's OK.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Grafter on Sept 30, 2008 11:15:28 GMT 1, Not complaining at all.... I shall say it for the 3rd time in this thread for those who are hard of hearing......THIS PRINT IS STUNNING...
Having laid out near on 300 of my hard earned, I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a damaged piece of paper.
Not complaining at all.... I shall say it for the 3rd time in this thread for those who are hard of hearing......THIS PRINT IS STUNNING...
Having laid out near on 300 of my hard earned, I just wanted to make sure I didn't have a damaged piece of paper.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Happy Shopper on Sept 30, 2008 11:30:21 GMT 1, Wish I'd gone for this print now. I notice all the ebay sellers are doing "Buy Now", and not risking it! Buggers.
Wish I'd gone for this print now. I notice all the ebay sellers are doing "Buy Now", and not risking it! Buggers.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 30, 2008 11:37:27 GMT 1, its a stunning print, so much better in the flesh.
its a stunning print, so much better in the flesh.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by moleman on Sept 30, 2008 11:41:05 GMT 1, real nice print lots of depth
real nice print lots of depth
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by colonelkurtz on Sept 30, 2008 11:58:51 GMT 1, Looks like a mistake during the printing to me, defo an imperfection. Would really annoy me if it was mine. Doesn't really fit with the remainder of the image. DDDDDDOOOORRRAAAA!
Looks like a mistake during the printing to me, defo an imperfection. Would really annoy me if it was mine. Doesn't really fit with the remainder of the image. DDDDDDOOOORRRAAAA!
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Happy Shopper on Sept 30, 2008 12:28:54 GMT 1, One of the ebay ones looks very weird. Much lighter blue, with purple splashes. Grafter, yours looks better than that!
(Interesting that a lot of the ebay sales say "In Hand", but all use the POW image.)
One of the ebay ones looks very weird. Much lighter blue, with purple splashes. Grafter, yours looks better than that!
(Interesting that a lot of the ebay sales say "In Hand", but all use the POW image.)
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by jon11 on Sept 30, 2008 12:46:59 GMT 1, it's part of the process and adds to the artistic beauty of this piece - as an 'artist' i thought you'd be all about this grafter - or at least telling us what to make of it - not asking the opinion of a bunch of collectors
i think the 'blemish' adds and fits perfectly and does flow with similar parts on the print - it's all fucked up and thats the style - sweet image - sweet execution and technique
it's part of the process and adds to the artistic beauty of this piece - as an 'artist' i thought you'd be all about this grafter - or at least telling us what to make of it - not asking the opinion of a bunch of collectors
i think the 'blemish' adds and fits perfectly and does flow with similar parts on the print - it's all fucked up and thats the style - sweet image - sweet execution and technique
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by daddycool on Sept 30, 2008 13:00:23 GMT 1, you love the image, but remember if you return it, your not going to get any where near the same, when it comes to drips & colour etc
big choice to make, but if your not happy send it back mate
you love the image, but remember if you return it, your not going to get any where near the same, when it comes to drips & colour etc
big choice to make, but if your not happy send it back mate
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Grafter on Sept 30, 2008 14:26:55 GMT 1, Thanks for all the help guys.... I'm going to live with it, I think, as I'm so happy with the rest of it I wouldn't want to risk getting a new one and it not being as nice.
Thanks for all the help guys.... I'm going to live with it, I think, as I'm so happy with the rest of it I wouldn't want to risk getting a new one and it not being as nice.
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Vhils ๐ต๐น Street Art โข Carved Concrete โข Art For Sale, by Guest on Sept 30, 2008 14:58:41 GMT 1, I dont think the blemish detracts from the image at all. makes it even more unique!
Im loving this release more than "nothing lasts forever".
I dont think the blemish detracts from the image at all. makes it even more unique!
Im loving this release more than "nothing lasts forever".
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