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SOLD, by rosstierney on Mar 30, 2010 21:56:32 GMT 1, You can overpay if the market is being manipulated by those who hold 20/30% (or whatever) of the stock though right?
of course, when it comes to oil/gold etc. but limited edition prints? i highly doubt, although possible.
There is no rationale why this print should trade at such a premium, in my opinion.
289 prints released, signed only. a good portion bought to keep, the other bought to sell. the prints re-sold were also bought to keep. there's still not enough to satisfy the serious demand so they have to WAIT until a keeper NEEDS to sell. during that time, the serious demand grows. a print's put up for sale & the demanding financially fight for what they want, knowing that if their offer's not good enough, they'll have to carry on waiting. rationale enough? you make it sound as if panambabe's stashing 50-90 nola's. whether you rate it or not, it's obvious that others rate it more than comparable prints.
You can overpay if the market is being manipulated by those who hold 20/30% (or whatever) of the stock though right? of course, when it comes to oil/gold etc. but limited edition prints? i highly doubt, although possible. There is no rationale why this print should trade at such a premium, in my opinion. 289 prints released, signed only. a good portion bought to keep, the other bought to sell. the prints re-sold were also bought to keep. there's still not enough to satisfy the serious demand so they have to WAIT until a keeper NEEDS to sell. during that time, the serious demand grows. a print's put up for sale & the demanding financially fight for what they want, knowing that if their offer's not good enough, they'll have to carry on waiting. rationale enough? you make it sound as if panambabe's stashing 50-90 nola's. whether you rate it or not, it's obvious that others rate it more than comparable prints.
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Mar 30, 2010 22:00:01 GMT 1
SOLD, by howlinhooker on Mar 30, 2010 22:00:01 GMT 1, i will get 1 back one day ......when the price is right!!!!
i will get 1 back one day ......when the price is right!!!!
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Mar 30, 2010 22:09:00 GMT 1
SOLD, by mattyg on Mar 30, 2010 22:09:00 GMT 1, For what it's worth, and I don't want to be accused of trying to up prices because my Nola is going nowhere, I think that as well as being a great image, this is the last of Mr B's prints that had any real message to it.
For what it's worth, and I don't want to be accused of trying to up prices because my Nola is going nowhere, I think that as well as being a great image, this is the last of Mr B's prints that had any real message to it.
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Mar 30, 2010 22:10:15 GMT 1
SOLD, by Coach on Mar 30, 2010 22:10:15 GMT 1, HH Noooooooooo!! But each to there own lol, I did own a Nola but no longer, still love the image and FIRST on my list :-) I've said it before and I know its not about the future but Nola along with Girl with Balloon and Kate will be the future iconic works, as they are wall friendly for a massive market, although Rude copper is a great image and the first from POW, restricted audience? I think its that simple? Pretty (not nolas face) seems always to favour collectors hence HC pretty and BME nice colours and subtle! BH doesn't do bad but Grin Reaper doesn't? Just my thoughts and I know its not all about the money BUT thats why I believe Nola will be popular... I could go on...but boring myself :-) Peace MA
See, this is the thing about taste, even where we all (well, vast majority I assume) all love the work of the same artist. I have three banksy's, and love them to bits. Yet whenever a thread is started saying someone is looking for a banksy, its never two of the ones I own - I suspect they are not very popular (no shit sherlock!) But the thing is, Nola is one of my least favorite prints - wouldnt say this on someones sale thread, but for fact that I read above it was sold. The face just doesnt do it for me at all - would rather almost any other banksy on my wall. Mind you, it did look smashing as a street piece. c
HH Noooooooooo!! But each to there own lol, I did own a Nola but no longer, still love the image and FIRST on my list :-) I've said it before and I know its not about the future but Nola along with Girl with Balloon and Kate will be the future iconic works, as they are wall friendly for a massive market, although Rude copper is a great image and the first from POW, restricted audience? I think its that simple? Pretty (not nolas face) seems always to favour collectors hence HC pretty and BME nice colours and subtle! BH doesn't do bad but Grin Reaper doesn't? Just my thoughts and I know its not all about the money BUT thats why I believe Nola will be popular... I could go on...but boring myself :-) Peace MA See, this is the thing about taste, even where we all (well, vast majority I assume) all love the work of the same artist. I have three banksy's, and love them to bits. Yet whenever a thread is started saying someone is looking for a banksy, its never two of the ones I own - I suspect they are not very popular (no shit sherlock!) But the thing is, Nola is one of my least favorite prints - wouldnt say this on someones sale thread, but for fact that I read above it was sold. The face just doesnt do it for me at all - would rather almost any other banksy on my wall. Mind you, it did look smashing as a street piece. c
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Mar 30, 2010 22:14:56 GMT 1
SOLD, by howlinhooker on Mar 30, 2010 22:14:56 GMT 1, agree coach......what 3 do you have again
agree coach......what 3 do you have again
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Mar 30, 2010 22:21:28 GMT 1
SOLD, by spirit on Mar 30, 2010 22:21:28 GMT 1, For what it's worth, and I don't want to be accused of trying to up prices because my Nola is going nowhere, I think that as well as being a great image, this is the last of Mr B's prints that had any real message to it.
Funny how we all see things differently - I wouldn't say Nola has a strong message element to it at all - certainly when compared to say VLH...
For what it's worth, and I don't want to be accused of trying to up prices because my Nola is going nowhere, I think that as well as being a great image, this is the last of Mr B's prints that had any real message to it. Funny how we all see things differently - I wouldn't say Nola has a strong message element to it at all - certainly when compared to say VLH...
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Mar 30, 2010 22:26:19 GMT 1
SOLD, by Coach on Mar 30, 2010 22:26:19 GMT 1, agree coach......what 3 do you have again
black and white trollies, golf sale and cnd. The later two are my favorite, but seem to command little interest or demand here. Fine by me - as I said, its all a question of taste, even when it's the same artist. And as for message, it doesnt come much better than cnd or gs imo.
agree coach......what 3 do you have again black and white trollies, golf sale and cnd. The later two are my favorite, but seem to command little interest or demand here. Fine by me - as I said, its all a question of taste, even when it's the same artist. And as for message, it doesnt come much better than cnd or gs imo.
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Mar 30, 2010 22:38:37 GMT 1
SOLD, by howlinhooker on Mar 30, 2010 22:38:37 GMT 1, i own plenty of banksys also .... just some mean a lot more than others do each to there own ....i like nola hope to get 1 back 1 day ...but grannies is a must have for me so had to swap to get 1 .............my fav being hmv not to everybodys taste also , but thats the print that started this banksy ADDICTION for me !!!!!!!!!! coach 3 very nice banksys there c n d is never flavour of the month for some reason ....love mine though !!!
i own plenty of banksys also .... just some mean a lot more than others do each to there own ....i like nola hope to get 1 back 1 day ...but grannies is a must have for me so had to swap to get 1 .............my fav being hmv not to everybodys taste also , but thats the print that started this banksy ADDICTION for me !!!!!!!!!! coach 3 very nice banksys there c n d is never flavour of the month for some reason ....love mine though !!!
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Mar 30, 2010 22:39:50 GMT 1
SOLD, by mattyg on Mar 30, 2010 22:39:50 GMT 1, Each to their own. Personally, I think Nola (the street piece) has a strong message โ it was painted in response to one of the worst natural disasters of modern times (and the US government's desperately poor handling of it), and I think the print makes striking, poignant image. I wouldn't say the say of VLH, but do agree that there is also a message there โย and I have one (which is also going nowhere).
Each to their own. Personally, I think Nola (the street piece) has a strong message โ it was painted in response to one of the worst natural disasters of modern times (and the US government's desperately poor handling of it), and I think the print makes striking, poignant image. I wouldn't say the say of VLH, but do agree that there is also a message there โย and I have one (which is also going nowhere).
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Mar 30, 2010 22:45:00 GMT 1
SOLD, by Coach on Mar 30, 2010 22:45:00 GMT 1, Hey MA. Hope all good with you. Think you may have misunderstood my motivation for posting - wasnt boasting about owning banksy's or questioning what you were saying - merely pointing out that at the end of the day, it's all a matter of taste, otherwise I would not get why nola is more popular than so many other prints, that I personally think are better (either aestetically, funnier, more pignant message etc). c
Hey MA. Hope all good with you. Think you may have misunderstood my motivation for posting - wasnt boasting about owning banksy's or questioning what you were saying - merely pointing out that at the end of the day, it's all a matter of taste, otherwise I would not get why nola is more popular than so many other prints, that I personally think are better (either aestetically, funnier, more pignant message etc). c
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Mar 30, 2010 22:49:41 GMT 1
SOLD, by monkeyart on Mar 30, 2010 22:49:41 GMT 1, Whats with the tag team - because I like and think NOLA will be a classic? And admit I did but now don't own one? Why bother posting I just said I think it will be a future classic and originally thought HH was wrong to swap for a signed Grannies? Bit doubling up? Bonkers !! Simple question really...MA
Whats with the tag team - because I like and think NOLA will be a classic? And admit I did but now don't own one? Why bother posting I just said I think it will be a future classic and originally thought HH was wrong to swap for a signed Grannies? Bit doubling up? Bonkers !! Simple question really...MA
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Mar 30, 2010 22:59:22 GMT 1
SOLD, by spirit on Mar 30, 2010 22:59:22 GMT 1, I'm confused. Wouldn't the last 2 posts make more sense if the order was reversed?
Edit: I mean the 2 before the last one... 39 & 40
I'm confused. Wouldn't the last 2 posts make more sense if the order was reversed?
Edit: I mean the 2 before the last one... 39 & 40
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Mar 30, 2010 23:16:58 GMT 1
SOLD, by Coach on Mar 30, 2010 23:16:58 GMT 1, MA, I thought I was the one being in the minority, saying I'm not so keen on Nola - no offence intended. I was just trying to say it's all about personal taste, and the Banksy's I have chosen for my wall, are ones that seem not to be very popular. All is good, c
MA, I thought I was the one being in the minority, saying I'm not so keen on Nola - no offence intended. I was just trying to say it's all about personal taste, and the Banksy's I have chosen for my wall, are ones that seem not to be very popular. All is good, c
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Mar 30, 2010 23:26:10 GMT 1
SOLD, by monkeyart on Mar 30, 2010 23:26:10 GMT 1, Missed my thoughts then!
Missed my thoughts then!
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Mar 30, 2010 23:33:41 GMT 1
SOLD, by Coach on Mar 30, 2010 23:33:41 GMT 1, I dont think so MA, certainly not intentionally - I was responding initially to your thoughts re why some prints are more popular than others - in my first post.
I dont think so MA, certainly not intentionally - I was responding initially to your thoughts re why some prints are more popular than others - in my first post.
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Mar 31, 2010 15:18:58 GMT 1
SOLD, by stevieray101 on Mar 31, 2010 15:18:58 GMT 1, is it possible to find out how much this went for?
is it possible to find out how much this went for?
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Mar 31, 2010 21:06:36 GMT 1
SOLD, by Deleted on Mar 31, 2010 21:06:36 GMT 1, You can overpay if the market is being manipulated by those who hold 20/30% (or whatever) of the stock though right? of course, when it comes to oil/gold etc. but limited edition prints? i highly doubt, although possible. There is no rationale why this print should trade at such a premium, in my opinion. 289 prints released, signed only. a good portion bought to keep, the other bought to sell. the prints re-sold were also bought to keep. there's still not enough to satisfy the serious demand so they have to WAIT until a keeper NEEDS to sell. during that time, the serious demand grows. a print's put up for sale & the demanding financially fight for what they want, knowing that if their offer's not good enough, they'll have to carry on waiting. rationale enough? you make it sound as if panambabe's stashing 50-90 nola's. whether you rate it or not, it's obvious that others rate it more than comparable prints.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the first point - it would be a piece of piss to assemble a decent portion of the liquid amount of this image - as you rightly say given the amount that is not bought to keep is remarkably low this makes manipulation even easier to manage if you were minded to do so. I think this is Mr Wonka's point.
Second point fair enough - but this forum carries a lot of sway and influence - caveat emptor and all that.....
You can overpay if the market is being manipulated by those who hold 20/30% (or whatever) of the stock though right? of course, when it comes to oil/gold etc. but limited edition prints? i highly doubt, although possible. There is no rationale why this print should trade at such a premium, in my opinion. 289 prints released, signed only. a good portion bought to keep, the other bought to sell. the prints re-sold were also bought to keep. there's still not enough to satisfy the serious demand so they have to WAIT until a keeper NEEDS to sell. during that time, the serious demand grows. a print's put up for sale & the demanding financially fight for what they want, knowing that if their offer's not good enough, they'll have to carry on waiting. rationale enough? you make it sound as if panambabe's stashing 50-90 nola's. whether you rate it or not, it's obvious that others rate it more than comparable prints. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the first point - it would be a piece of piss to assemble a decent portion of the liquid amount of this image - as you rightly say given the amount that is not bought to keep is remarkably low this makes manipulation even easier to manage if you were minded to do so. I think this is Mr Wonka's point. Second point fair enough - but this forum carries a lot of sway and influence - caveat emptor and all that.....
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