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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by manchestermike on Jun 6, 2007 17:24:17 GMT 1, Hi mulesnx
Hi mulesnx
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by bond on Jun 6, 2007 17:27:54 GMT 1, suspicious manchestermike !!?!?!?!!?!
suspicious manchestermike !!?!?!?!!?!
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by saajid22 on Jun 6, 2007 18:11:02 GMT 1, regardless of shameless self promotion, it may well end up a bargain for someone. i love my triptych. i paid ยฃ800 for artist proof 1 of 3. there is a new print out, but that has sold out. i wouldn't be selling a triptych right now, you could argue it was a little overpriced to start with. but it sold out,so it couldn't have been right ?. there is lots of dans stuff around at the moment, that people are spoiled for choice is much more likely to be a contributing factor. if people hang on to this print it will gain value in the long term(imo).
regardless of shameless self promotion, it may well end up a bargain for someone. i love my triptych. i paid ยฃ800 for artist proof 1 of 3. there is a new print out, but that has sold out. i wouldn't be selling a triptych right now, you could argue it was a little overpriced to start with. but it sold out,so it couldn't have been right ?. there is lots of dans stuff around at the moment, that people are spoiled for choice is much more likely to be a contributing factor. if people hang on to this print it will gain value in the long term(imo).
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by funster on Jun 6, 2007 18:20:52 GMT 1, I've got the original triptych middle painting and its really great, I also have this funny feeling its virtually worthless! Sometimes it seems ashame as it actually is really good. Oh well! Thats art for you. Roll on Neate, don't say I've paid the mortgage for two duds
p.s - before anyone accuses me (and hitting my fragile 6 bonus points!) of posting negative comments about any artists please just re-read it in the fun it was intended
I've got the original triptych middle painting and its really great, I also have this funny feeling its virtually worthless! Sometimes it seems ashame as it actually is really good. Oh well! Thats art for you. Roll on Neate, don't say I've paid the mortgage for two duds p.s - before anyone accuses me (and hitting my fragile 6 bonus points!) of posting negative comments about any artists please just re-read it in the fun it was intended
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by simongoff on Jun 6, 2007 23:02:59 GMT 1, 511gbp all done they were 750 at the show
511gbp all done they were 750 at the show
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by romanywg on Jun 7, 2007 19:34:04 GMT 1, Probably bought himself, if you know what I mean?
Probably bought himself, if you know what I mean?
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by craigf on Jun 7, 2007 21:28:33 GMT 1, Banksy prints seem to be skyrocketing whereas Baldwin are definitely dipping. Maybe too many similar or available at the same time? Does anyone know what the original price was for the yellow divine revelation was? it is limited to 50 rather than 150 so i expect it was more than the standard ยฃ300?
Banksy prints seem to be skyrocketing whereas Baldwin are definitely dipping. Maybe too many similar or available at the same time? Does anyone know what the original price was for the yellow divine revelation was? it is limited to 50 rather than 150 so i expect it was more than the standard ยฃ300?
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by stuey09 on Jun 7, 2007 22:45:35 GMT 1, Banksy prints seem to be skyrocketing whereas Baldwin are definitely dipping. Maybe too many similar or available at the same time? Does anyone know what the original price was for the yellow divine revelation was? it is limited to 50 rather than 150 so i expect it was more than the standard ยฃ300?
I seem to remember that it was ยฃ300.
Banksy prints seem to be skyrocketing whereas Baldwin are definitely dipping. Maybe too many similar or available at the same time? Does anyone know what the original price was for the yellow divine revelation was? it is limited to 50 rather than 150 so i expect it was more than the standard ยฃ300? I seem to remember that it was ยฃ300.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by sausageboonwee on Jun 7, 2007 22:51:16 GMT 1, I like the yellow Divine
I like the yellow Divine
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 28, 2007 21:03:08 GMT 1, Noticed this seller the other week with a number of repeat bids from the same buyer ( on all items not just art)
Strangely enough again just went to bid on a Vase & who popped up as high bidder!
Any chance of this forum member explaining a bit about shill bidding & why they do it or do i need to do the usual thing & get them booted off.
cgi6.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=justinl1235&completed=1&all=1&rows=25&sort=3
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by verbalkint on May 28, 2007 23:59:13 GMT 1, yes, he bid for it last time, then passed up because he couldnt afford it, i relisted it and he won it again, this time he has paid in full by paypal, so do what you like cheifden, saviour of the human race, mr ebay policeman. I have 30+ items running at any one time and dont have the time to keep an eye on the bidding activity on all of them, but thankyou so much for doing it for me, you must have alot of free time.
I could give you 20 different ebay members ID's who have bid on over 50 of my items each, about 10 that have bid on over 100 and one from california who bids on most of the things i list. that is the nature of what i sell, i have alot of repeat customers who are jewellers and inevitably some of my diamond customers are going to see other items and buy those too. Just because you didnt win the auction you are getting all pissy about it, coming on here and basically calling me a theif. You have accused me, i have defended myself. the people on these boards who know me personally will vouch for me that i would not do anything of the sort. If i wanted a specific amount for the vase i would have listed it with a buy it now price with an option for offers like the canvas i have listed at the moment.
but i will tell you what mr accusations, i assume that you bid ยฃ640 or ยฃ600, i have 3 of these things. If you want one i will sell you one of the others for ยฃ600. Or are you lying, did you not bid at all and you just decided to come on here and try to embarrass me infront of the people that i enjoy talking to every day?
you are out of order, if you had a problem you could have PM'd me and i could have privatly provided you with details of the transaction and copied you an email of the paypal payment cofirmation if needs be, but instead you have come on here and tried to destroy my reputation with everyone.
yes, he bid for it last time, then passed up because he couldnt afford it, i relisted it and he won it again, this time he has paid in full by paypal, so do what you like cheifden, saviour of the human race, mr ebay policeman. I have 30+ items running at any one time and dont have the time to keep an eye on the bidding activity on all of them, but thankyou so much for doing it for me, you must have alot of free time.
I could give you 20 different ebay members ID's who have bid on over 50 of my items each, about 10 that have bid on over 100 and one from california who bids on most of the things i list. that is the nature of what i sell, i have alot of repeat customers who are jewellers and inevitably some of my diamond customers are going to see other items and buy those too. Just because you didnt win the auction you are getting all pissy about it, coming on here and basically calling me a theif. You have accused me, i have defended myself. the people on these boards who know me personally will vouch for me that i would not do anything of the sort. If i wanted a specific amount for the vase i would have listed it with a buy it now price with an option for offers like the canvas i have listed at the moment.
but i will tell you what mr accusations, i assume that you bid ยฃ640 or ยฃ600, i have 3 of these things. If you want one i will sell you one of the others for ยฃ600. Or are you lying, did you not bid at all and you just decided to come on here and try to embarrass me infront of the people that i enjoy talking to every day?
you are out of order, if you had a problem you could have PM'd me and i could have privatly provided you with details of the transaction and copied you an email of the paypal payment cofirmation if needs be, but instead you have come on here and tried to destroy my reputation with everyone.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by Zippy on May 29, 2007 0:13:13 GMT 1, Very good reply Verbalkint. This sort of post does not help anyone. If you have doubts on a piece or even a seller, PM them first in private. Why try to embarass someone who has the same passion for the artists as we all do? Are you after some sort of recognition for your detective work? You obviously have far too much time on your hands which may be better spent elsewhere. This post does not help anyone at all and now puts Verbalkints good name into disrepute. You should publically apologise and perhaps Silky could lock / remove this post to limit any further damage. Please do not all wade in with -ve repsect as I think enough damage has been done. Z
Very good reply Verbalkint. This sort of post does not help anyone. If you have doubts on a piece or even a seller, PM them first in private. Why try to embarass someone who has the same passion for the artists as we all do? Are you after some sort of recognition for your detective work? You obviously have far too much time on your hands which may be better spent elsewhere. This post does not help anyone at all and now puts Verbalkints good name into disrepute. You should publically apologise and perhaps Silky could lock / remove this post to limit any further damage. Please do not all wade in with -ve repsect as I think enough damage has been done. Z
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 29, 2007 0:24:39 GMT 1, I shall take your word for it then and lets just see how it pans out.
I shall take your word for it then and lets just see how it pans out.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by romanywg on May 29, 2007 9:28:40 GMT 1, Verbalkint, perhaps you can let us know why this person who has won no fewer than 7 of your auctions has never left feedback for you or you for him? Isn't that how ebay works. You leave them feedback when they pay and they leave feedback when they receive?
Verbalkint, perhaps you can let us know why this person who has won no fewer than 7 of your auctions has never left feedback for you or you for him? Isn't that how ebay works. You leave them feedback when they pay and they leave feedback when they receive?
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by ยฉhief' on May 29, 2007 10:50:19 GMT 1, I smell a rat
I smell a rat
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 29, 2007 11:01:19 GMT 1, Just for the record.
Again i have sent a om to the seller. The buyer *ONLY* bids on this sellers items, not that strange really but also has a fetish for the same DB vase ( if he won it and couldnt pay, why relist & pay another set of fvf, surely he would have said i can pay next week and thats good enough, he is a good customer afterall)
If he is that good a customer why not cut out ebay & possibly paypal by dealing direct? Why not bump his feedback up afterall if he is new every newbie wants feedback, even though it wont affect his score it looks pretty. He keeps coming back even if you dont leave feedback.
He has bid retractions of your items, could you not have just cancelled his bids so he didnt have retractions showing, he is a good customer.
99.9% bid activity with yourself across 68 items ( not including multiple bids) is pretty unique. Plus a mention from yourself on a previous post about ebay not doing anything about shill bidding, thats waht made me scan your listing & take a deeper look.
Plus should i post the other ebay id's that have suspect bidding patterns & similar conections or is that just more good customers?
But i have noticed your last post that explains it all!
Just for the record.
Again i have sent a om to the seller. The buyer *ONLY* bids on this sellers items, not that strange really but also has a fetish for the same DB vase ( if he won it and couldnt pay, why relist & pay another set of fvf, surely he would have said i can pay next week and thats good enough, he is a good customer afterall)
If he is that good a customer why not cut out ebay & possibly paypal by dealing direct? Why not bump his feedback up afterall if he is new every newbie wants feedback, even though it wont affect his score it looks pretty. He keeps coming back even if you dont leave feedback.
He has bid retractions of your items, could you not have just cancelled his bids so he didnt have retractions showing, he is a good customer.
99.9% bid activity with yourself across 68 items ( not including multiple bids) is pretty unique. Plus a mention from yourself on a previous post about ebay not doing anything about shill bidding, thats waht made me scan your listing & take a deeper look.
Plus should i post the other ebay id's that have suspect bidding patterns & similar conections or is that just more good customers?
But i have noticed your last post that explains it all!
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by finsburyparkranger on May 29, 2007 12:05:50 GMT 1, +1 respect affart. I'm glad I'm among company of those with lots of time on their hands to highlight concerns like these. Well done for sending PM to seller first also. Although lets not make any further judgements untill verbalkint has had another chance to defend himself properly.
+1 respect affart. I'm glad I'm among company of those with lots of time on their hands to highlight concerns like these. Well done for sending PM to seller first also. Although lets not make any further judgements untill verbalkint has had another chance to defend himself properly.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 29, 2007 12:33:18 GMT 1, Ok, im a bit bored with this now as its pretty obvious & i f**king hate shill bidders so to make people aware not to deal with this guy he is shilling prices up left & right. I will also speak to my ebay acc mgr to see what can be done as someone turning ยฃxx wont usually be booted off via the usual methods.
Note VK has not replied to any messages.
In this thread you state you have 3 vases but you only have two! One was to keep and one was to sell, as both ended up on ebay at various points thats another lie.
3 Vases!
I thought you had 2 from Forster ( Varses 5 & 7)
Vase 5 sold last night to bidder ******** ( he also won the same a week before but didn't pay)
Vase 7 sold a few weeks before with the ebay member &&&&&&& also placing a bid but not winning
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270119007901&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D%2B270119007901%2B%26fvi%3D1
I wont post on this thread again but i gave you every chance & even refrained from posting your actual ebay id so not everyone would spot, only the 'on the ballers', you didnt reply to any messages & still maintain im wrong.
Ok, im a bit bored with this now as its pretty obvious & i f**king hate shill bidders so to make people aware not to deal with this guy he is shilling prices up left & right. I will also speak to my ebay acc mgr to see what can be done as someone turning ยฃxx wont usually be booted off via the usual methods. Note VK has not replied to any messages. In this thread you state you have 3 vases but you only have two! One was to keep and one was to sell, as both ended up on ebay at various points thats another lie. 3 Vases! I thought you had 2 from Forster ( Varses 5 & 7) Vase 5 sold last night to bidder ******** ( he also won the same a week before but didn't pay) Vase 7 sold a few weeks before with the ebay member &&&&&&& also placing a bid but not winning cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270119007901&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.co.uk%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Ffrom%3DR40%26satitle%3D%2B270119007901%2B%26fvi%3D1I wont post on this thread again but i gave you every chance & even refrained from posting your actual ebay id so not everyone would spot, only the 'on the ballers', you didnt reply to any messages & still maintain im wrong.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on May 29, 2007 13:31:56 GMT 1, I would strongly ask people to take care when they accuse people of shill bidding
I'm not getting involved in this sort of thing coz I just dont have the time to look into it, but I would remind people that not everything is always as clear as it may seem.
Yes, we know why someone might try to bid up their own pieces on ebay, but you also need to remember people could also have motives for accusing someone of doing that to get them a bad name on this forum, and discouraging others from bidding on the items so they can then snap them up an even cheaper price
I would strongly ask people to take care when they accuse people of shill bidding I'm not getting involved in this sort of thing coz I just dont have the time to look into it, but I would remind people that not everything is always as clear as it may seem. Yes, we know why someone might try to bid up their own pieces on ebay, but you also need to remember people could also have motives for accusing someone of doing that to get them a bad name on this forum, and discouraging others from bidding on the items so they can then snap them up an even cheaper price
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by romanywg on May 29, 2007 13:35:47 GMT 1, I think we will know one way or the other if and when verbalkint replies.
I think we will know one way or the other if and when verbalkint replies.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by paulah on May 29, 2007 13:35:50 GMT 1, affart - where do you find that info on ebay? I've never seen any stats like that apart from the main feedback page.
affart - where do you find that info on ebay? I've never seen any stats like that apart from the main feedback page.
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 29, 2007 13:39:11 GMT 1, No motives Sillky just dont like shill bidders.
Ref : putting bidders off thats why the post was after the art auctions had ended, as the seller stated they are a Diamond seller not an art seller so it shouldnt matter to much.
You dont need to look into it i will do that myself & if i am wrong i will of course apologise to the seller, but im not wrong.
Romany, He has won more than 7 auctions since opening the account. Cheers
No motives Sillky just dont like shill bidders.
Ref : putting bidders off thats why the post was after the art auctions had ended, as the seller stated they are a Diamond seller not an art seller so it shouldnt matter to much.
You dont need to look into it i will do that myself & if i am wrong i will of course apologise to the seller, but im not wrong.
Romany, He has won more than 7 auctions since opening the account. Cheers
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by carlito on May 29, 2007 13:40:16 GMT 1, I would strongly ask people to take care when they accuse people of shill bidding I'm not getting involved in this sort of thing coz I just dont have the time to look into it, but I would remind people that not everything is always as clear as it may seem. Yes, we know why someone might try to bid up their own pieces on ebay, but you also need to remember people could also have motives for accusing someone of doing that to get them a bad name on this forum, and discouraging others from bidding on the items so they can then snap them up an even cheaper price
very good points Silky
I would strongly ask people to take care when they accuse people of shill bidding I'm not getting involved in this sort of thing coz I just dont have the time to look into it, but I would remind people that not everything is always as clear as it may seem. Yes, we know why someone might try to bid up their own pieces on ebay, but you also need to remember people could also have motives for accusing someone of doing that to get them a bad name on this forum, and discouraging others from bidding on the items so they can then snap them up an even cheaper price very good points Silky
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by affart on May 29, 2007 13:42:13 GMT 1, Carlito see prev post!
Carlito see prev post!
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by Daniel Silk on May 29, 2007 13:47:26 GMT 1, No motives Sillky just dont like shill bidders. Ref : putting bidders off thats why the post was after the art auctions had ended, as the seller stated they are a Diamond seller not an art seller so it shouldnt matter to much. You dont need to look into it i will do that myself & if i am wrong i will of course apologise to the seller, but im not wrong. Romany, He has won more than 7 auctions since opening the account. Cheers
Thats ok then as long as your 100% sure
No motives Sillky just dont like shill bidders. Ref : putting bidders off thats why the post was after the art auctions had ended, as the seller stated they are a Diamond seller not an art seller so it shouldnt matter to much. You dont need to look into it i will do that myself & if i am wrong i will of course apologise to the seller, but im not wrong. Romany, He has won more than 7 auctions since opening the account. Cheers Thats ok then as long as your 100% sure
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by carlito on May 29, 2007 13:50:44 GMT 1,
we were posting at the same time
we were posting at the same time
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by carl on May 29, 2007 13:58:15 GMT 1, ;DThis is as good as telly
;DThis is as good as telly
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by mickg on May 29, 2007 14:06:35 GMT 1, Yeah - I'm glued to it. The refresh button hasn't seen this much action since Morons. It's like a Panorama Special
Yeah - I'm glued to it. The refresh button hasn't seen this much action since Morons. It's like a Panorama Special
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Dan Baldwin ๐ฌ๐ง New Print Release โข Art For Sale, by finsburyparkranger on May 29, 2007 14:27:42 GMT 1, Its funny that Diamond traders are now moving on to Dan Baldwin vases. From funding guns to fight African wars to funding guns to make British art. To be applauded. ;D
Its funny that Diamond traders are now moving on to Dan Baldwin vases. From funding guns to fight African wars to funding guns to make British art. To be applauded. ;D
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