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JetSet Graffiti, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2010 8:15:35 GMT 1, JSG you have PM - personally I'm not that bothered about the DVD but I paid for a package of things and didn't receive part of that package. I don't recall being told about a youtube clip.
JSG you have PM - personally I'm not that bothered about the DVD but I paid for a package of things and didn't receive part of that package. I don't recall being told about a youtube clip.
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JetSet Graffiti, by eddiedangerous on Feb 18, 2010 9:36:00 GMT 1, cant someone simply ban this motherfucker pls
cant someone simply ban this motherfucker pls
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JetSet Graffiti, by sand on Feb 18, 2010 9:56:45 GMT 1, Hey silky it seems that the general consensus on the forum is that people want JSG banned...so why donยดt you do it?
Youยดre reason that itยดs better to keep the channel of communication through the forum open is all good and well but Daniel just keeps on dismissing the accusations. So there is no line of communication to disrupt. Apart from when heยดs here to post about the latest print he has for sale.
JSG needs this forum to market and hype his artists and wares.
The forum does not need him. And it seems that a high percentage of members no longer want him on the forum as he is not to be trusted.
Just look at the way he responds when people challenge him - heยดs arrogaant, dismissive and sometimes even aggressive. Hardly what this forum wants or needs.
Ban the muppett.
Thereยดs a reason why he is banned on the other forums.
Hey silky it seems that the general consensus on the forum is that people want JSG banned...so why donยดt you do it?
Youยดre reason that itยดs better to keep the channel of communication through the forum open is all good and well but Daniel just keeps on dismissing the accusations. So there is no line of communication to disrupt. Apart from when heยดs here to post about the latest print he has for sale.
JSG needs this forum to market and hype his artists and wares.
The forum does not need him. And it seems that a high percentage of members no longer want him on the forum as he is not to be trusted.
Just look at the way he responds when people challenge him - heยดs arrogaant, dismissive and sometimes even aggressive. Hardly what this forum wants or needs.
Ban the muppett.
Thereยดs a reason why he is banned on the other forums.
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JetSet Graffiti, by Daniel Silk on Feb 18, 2010 11:37:38 GMT 1, I dont mind banning him right now if thats what you really want? but last night we managed to get a bit closer to some of you getting a bit of money back off him. Shall I just fuck that up, ban him and lock the thread? To tell ya the truth Im pretty fucked off with all this coz the way some of you act like you dont really want your money back and that just looks suspect Your not helping yourself! Im trying to sort this out for you so at least some of you get something back of him, but all I get a bitchin at me for it Just tell me to ban him and lock the thread, its no loss to me! Im just trying to help you.
I dont mind banning him right now if thats what you really want? but last night we managed to get a bit closer to some of you getting a bit of money back off him. Shall I just fuck that up, ban him and lock the thread? To tell ya the truth Im pretty fucked off with all this coz the way some of you act like you dont really want your money back and that just looks suspect Your not helping yourself! Im trying to sort this out for you so at least some of you get something back of him, but all I get a bitchin at me for it Just tell me to ban him and lock the thread, its no loss to me! Im just trying to help you.
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JetSet Graffiti, by grafik on Feb 18, 2010 11:45:11 GMT 1, your doing a great job with this silk keep it going..
poppy post your bank statement, just block out anything really important
your doing a great job with this silk keep it going..
poppy post your bank statement, just block out anything really important
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 18, 2010 11:54:15 GMT 1, Thanks cg and thanks to all who have offered support and suggestions.
I've been asked to hold fire until his attorney can get an official letter to me to suggest a resolution within the next 5 days. What.......a resolution to a problem which is supposedly only active in my imagination? How does that work?
The last attorney he threatened me and the giant.org forum with had never actually heard of him when I got in touch.
I won't be waiting !
There can't be anything easier than paying money straight back to someone you owe so if it's not been done by now then I suspect he has no intention of paying it. If this gets confirmed to me for definite then there will be no artist, forum, website, art based organisation, LA or New York citizen who doesn't know how I feel about how Daniel Lahoda has treated me.
More than happy to welcome a peaceful resolution as always but patience is thin on the ground.
Thanks cg and thanks to all who have offered support and suggestions.
I've been asked to hold fire until his attorney can get an official letter to me to suggest a resolution within the next 5 days. What.......a resolution to a problem which is supposedly only active in my imagination? How does that work?
The last attorney he threatened me and the giant.org forum with had never actually heard of him when I got in touch.
I won't be waiting !
There can't be anything easier than paying money straight back to someone you owe so if it's not been done by now then I suspect he has no intention of paying it. If this gets confirmed to me for definite then there will be no artist, forum, website, art based organisation, LA or New York citizen who doesn't know how I feel about how Daniel Lahoda has treated me.
More than happy to welcome a peaceful resolution as always but patience is thin on the ground.
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JetSet Graffiti, by They call me Stephen on Feb 18, 2010 11:55:32 GMT 1, poppy post your bank statement, just block out anything really important
yeah block out all the porn subscriptions poppy but if you could leave your name, card number, expiry date and 3 digit security code visible that would be great...i'm eyeing up jb's gold flags on ebay ;D
in all seriousness i hope this gets sorted soon, i donโt see why poppy would feel the need to lie over this to be honest so surely if jsg want to restore any bit of credibility they should sort this mess out sharpish.
love the you tube video link as a replacement for paid dvds...iโd like to watch it but am not sure if iโd end up owing jsg ยฃ20 for the pleasure
poppy post your bank statement, just block out anything really important yeah block out all the porn subscriptions poppy but if you could leave your name, card number, expiry date and 3 digit security code visible that would be great...i'm eyeing up jb's gold flags on ebay ;D in all seriousness i hope this gets sorted soon, i donโt see why poppy would feel the need to lie over this to be honest so surely if jsg want to restore any bit of credibility they should sort this mess out sharpish. love the you tube video link as a replacement for paid dvds...iโd like to watch it but am not sure if iโd end up owing jsg ยฃ20 for the pleasure
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spirit
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JetSet Graffiti, by spirit on Feb 18, 2010 12:07:38 GMT 1, I dont mind banning him right now if thats what you really want? but last night we managed to get a bit closer to some of you getting a bit of money back off him. Shall I just f**k that up, ban him and lock the thread? To tell ya the truth Im pretty f**ked off with all this coz the way some of you act like you dont really want your money back and that just looks suspect Your not helping yourself! Im trying to sort this out for you so at least some of you get something back of him, but all I get a b**chin at me for it Just tell me to ban him and lock the thread, its no loss to me! Im just trying to help you.
My view is that this thread has a reasonable chance of succeeding in getting poppy's money back. This place is important to JetSet as it's the only forum left where he can tout his wares. I therefore think that if enough pressure is applied to him here for long enough that he will eventually and inevitably come to the simple business decision that paying his debt is better for him financially than having his reputation constantly called into question and the resulting loss of business.
I'm sure that Jetset would like nothing more than for this thread to be locked and to disappear. This thread is hurting him. To quote him earlier "Please stop this". These are exactly the reasons why this thread must be allowed to continue. However, I also believe that if someone is being accused of wrong doing, in the interests of fairness, their right to reply must be maintained (even if he chooses not to use it). So I don't think he should be banned - yet.
What's your view on this poppy?
Edit: By the way, anyone else check out that link to the bmw forum that afroken posted earlier? It's exactly the same story but with car parts instead of prints...
I dont mind banning him right now if thats what you really want? but last night we managed to get a bit closer to some of you getting a bit of money back off him. Shall I just f**k that up, ban him and lock the thread? To tell ya the truth Im pretty f**ked off with all this coz the way some of you act like you dont really want your money back and that just looks suspect Your not helping yourself! Im trying to sort this out for you so at least some of you get something back of him, but all I get a b**chin at me for it Just tell me to ban him and lock the thread, its no loss to me! Im just trying to help you. My view is that this thread has a reasonable chance of succeeding in getting poppy's money back. This place is important to JetSet as it's the only forum left where he can tout his wares. I therefore think that if enough pressure is applied to him here for long enough that he will eventually and inevitably come to the simple business decision that paying his debt is better for him financially than having his reputation constantly called into question and the resulting loss of business. I'm sure that Jetset would like nothing more than for this thread to be locked and to disappear. This thread is hurting him. To quote him earlier "Please stop this". These are exactly the reasons why this thread must be allowed to continue. However, I also believe that if someone is being accused of wrong doing, in the interests of fairness, their right to reply must be maintained (even if he chooses not to use it). So I don't think he should be banned - yet. What's your view on this poppy? Edit: By the way, anyone else check out that link to the bmw forum that afroken posted earlier? It's exactly the same story but with car parts instead of prints...
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JetSet Graffiti, by rillo on Feb 18, 2010 13:27:45 GMT 1, Silky, I would prefer to see him banned and donate an additional $20 from my pocket to charity than to accept his $20 offer in place of the promised DVD after all this time and the way we were messed about to, to call it quits. Dan is a liar, and a cheat, and has had 1,000's of opportunities to put this, and other complaints right, but continues to get away with it and will no doubt continue to rip off fellow forum members while he is allowed to do so. This is why these threads materialise as a warning each time JSG has something to sell...
Silky, I would prefer to see him banned and donate an additional $20 from my pocket to charity than to accept his $20 offer in place of the promised DVD after all this time and the way we were messed about to, to call it quits. Dan is a liar, and a cheat, and has had 1,000's of opportunities to put this, and other complaints right, but continues to get away with it and will no doubt continue to rip off fellow forum members while he is allowed to do so. This is why these threads materialise as a warning each time JSG has something to sell...
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JetSet Graffiti, by adewilliams on Feb 18, 2010 13:37:07 GMT 1, may I suggest you do a poll. Ban the thief or don't ban the thief and let the people decide
may I suggest you do a poll. Ban the thief or don't ban the thief and let the people decide
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JetSet Graffiti, by Billy Sport on Feb 18, 2010 13:39:43 GMT 1, sum it up in 3 questions
was there $8007 received by JSG from Poppy was there a gold flag sent for said money did poppy sign for/ receive it.
sum it up in 3 questions
was there $8007 received by JSG from Poppy was there a gold flag sent for said money did poppy sign for/ receive it.
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grafik
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JetSet Graffiti, by grafik on Feb 18, 2010 13:41:16 GMT 1, maybe if everyone on here and on the beemer forum that he ripped off too files a complaint to the LAPD,
can just be a copy and paste job with insert amount and the service he didnt provide..
im happy to write the letter, then everyone fills out their bit and sends it off?
maybe if everyone on here and on the beemer forum that he ripped off too files a complaint to the LAPD,
can just be a copy and paste job with insert amount and the service he didnt provide..
im happy to write the letter, then everyone fills out their bit and sends it off?
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JetSet Graffiti, by Daniel Silk on Feb 18, 2010 13:44:56 GMT 1, Sorry ade made my post in yours to start with.
He's gonna be banned anyway! dont worry about that. We are just trying to sort this out for these people here and now. Otherwise this just rolls on and on Its not gonna help Poppy banning him now is it.
Sorry ade made my post in yours to start with. He's gonna be banned anyway! dont worry about that. We are just trying to sort this out for these people here and now. Otherwise this just rolls on and on Its not gonna help Poppy banning him now is it.
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JetSet Graffiti, by sand on Feb 18, 2010 13:56:21 GMT 1, He's gonna be banned anyway! dont worry about that.
Good to hear that he will be banned eventually.
Good riddance.
Really hope you get back the money you are owed poppysunshine.
Can't wait for JSG's response (if there is one)...wouldn't be surprised if he does a disappearing act.
And with the links for other forums...it seems like Daniel has a long and checkered history of ripping off many people.
His latest endeavour just so happens to be in the 'urban art' market.
He's gonna be banned anyway! dont worry about that. Good to hear that he will be banned eventually. Good riddance. Really hope you get back the money you are owed poppysunshine. Can't wait for JSG's response (if there is one)...wouldn't be surprised if he does a disappearing act. And with the links for other forums...it seems like Daniel has a long and checkered history of ripping off many people. His latest endeavour just so happens to be in the 'urban art' market.
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 18, 2010 15:05:48 GMT 1, Not a great deal I can show of my online bank statement other than names but just for a taster how about the confirmation email that the money had finally hit his account.
I have every email, every forum pm, the full transcript of everything on giant.org that was said before they were frightened into shutting down the thread due to the threat of a lawyer who it turns out has never even heard of him. That alone fills 17 pdf files....etc etc etc.
Not a great deal I can show of my online bank statement other than names but just for a taster how about the confirmation email that the money had finally hit his account. I have every email, every forum pm, the full transcript of everything on giant.org that was said before they were frightened into shutting down the thread due to the threat of a lawyer who it turns out has never even heard of him. That alone fills 17 pdf files....etc etc etc.
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Karl Read
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Feb 18, 2010 15:09:44 GMT 1, BAN!!!!
BAN!!!!
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JetSet Graffiti, by manchestermike on Feb 18, 2010 15:13:42 GMT 1,
Banning him doesn't help Chris though
Banning him doesn't help Chris though
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afroken
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JetSet Graffiti, by afroken on Feb 18, 2010 15:22:10 GMT 1, Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me.
Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me.
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Karl Read
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Feb 18, 2010 15:26:52 GMT 1, Banning him doesn't help Chris though
No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!!
Banning him doesn't help Chris though No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!!
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 18, 2010 15:28:03 GMT 1, I'm happy for him to stay right now and answer everything that anyone wants to throw at him.
At least it doesn't give him the chance to say he's been trying to sort things out but couldn't contact any of us because he was banned from the forum.
Has anyone had any contact with anyone on the car forum? It would be interesting to find out if anything has gone legal. If not I would be happy to tie any of their complaints in with mine and send the lot to the LAPD.
I'm happy for him to stay right now and answer everything that anyone wants to throw at him.
At least it doesn't give him the chance to say he's been trying to sort things out but couldn't contact any of us because he was banned from the forum.
Has anyone had any contact with anyone on the car forum? It would be interesting to find out if anything has gone legal. If not I would be happy to tie any of their complaints in with mine and send the lot to the LAPD.
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spirit
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JetSet Graffiti, by spirit on Feb 18, 2010 15:41:10 GMT 1, Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me.
Completely agree with that.
Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me. Completely agree with that.
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spirit
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JetSet Graffiti, by spirit on Feb 18, 2010 15:52:10 GMT 1, Banning him doesn't help Chris though No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!!
For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery".
Banning him doesn't help Chris though No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!! For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery".
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spirit
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JetSet Graffiti, by spirit on Feb 18, 2010 15:53:37 GMT 1,
Just for the record poppy, did you ever get the promised tracking? Does Daniel claim he sent the print?
Just for the record poppy, did you ever get the promised tracking? Does Daniel claim he sent the print?
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Karl Read
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Feb 18, 2010 15:57:48 GMT 1, No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!! For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery".
It didnt seem to work on the giant forum when we were all posting on there to do with this issue. Well just hope everything gets sorted.
No it does'nt help, but it's not going to do him any harm, it's been 18 months. Dont you think JSG would of payed up by now if he had any intentions to? It needs to be taken down the proper channels now and keeping JSG on this forum is'nt going to benefit him getting his money back!!! For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery". It didnt seem to work on the giant forum when we were all posting on there to do with this issue. Well just hope everything gets sorted.
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Poppy Sunshine
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JetSet Graffiti, by Poppy Sunshine on Feb 18, 2010 16:00:05 GMT 1, No tracking was ever sent spirit. I simply have a long line of excuses about moving from New York to LA, being busy, not being able to find anything etc.
At no point did he ever say he'd sent it and I'd guess in hindsight he may wish he had done as it would be at least one plausible excuse.
The reason the pressure on the giant forum didn't work was that they were too quick to believe him when he threatened them with legal jargon and a lawyer who'd never heard of him. They shut it down before it got anywhere but banned him in the process.
Would you believe he then had the balls to try to post under at least two other names but they sussed him and banned his alternative id's too.
No tracking was ever sent spirit. I simply have a long line of excuses about moving from New York to LA, being busy, not being able to find anything etc.
At no point did he ever say he'd sent it and I'd guess in hindsight he may wish he had done as it would be at least one plausible excuse.
The reason the pressure on the giant forum didn't work was that they were too quick to believe him when he threatened them with legal jargon and a lawyer who'd never heard of him. They shut it down before it got anywhere but banned him in the process.
Would you believe he then had the balls to try to post under at least two other names but they sussed him and banned his alternative id's too.
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Karl Read
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JetSet Graffiti, by Karl Read on Feb 18, 2010 16:18:10 GMT 1, Would you believe he then had the balls to try to post under at least two other names but they sussed him and banned his alternative id's too.
Yeah, didnt he try and do that here too, hype up an unkown artists or something. Turned out it was the same IP and he blamed it on an intern, yeah right.
Would you believe he then had the balls to try to post under at least two other names but they sussed him and banned his alternative id's too. Yeah, didnt he try and do that here too, hype up an unkown artists or something. Turned out it was the same IP and he blamed it on an intern, yeah right.
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spirit
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JetSet Graffiti, by spirit on Feb 18, 2010 16:18:28 GMT 1, For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery". It didnt seem to work on the giant forum when we were all posting on there to do with this issue. Well just hope everything gets sorted.
True. But his "legitimate" business has grown a fair bit since then. He's partnered with modern multiples (who have their own rep to consider) and done the release with Dface etc. When all this kicked off on the giant I guess he felt it wasn't the end of the world as he could just shift his business over here. But there really is nowhere else to go now - he's burnt all his bridges. In short, he's got a lot more to lose now than he did then. imo $8K seems like a small price to pay to save a business that allegedly sold 6500 prints last year.
I really hope it gets sorted too.
For most of that 18 months, sufficient pressure has not been applied. However, I get the feeling that things are moving on a little now. If JSG thinks he can get away without paying then he won't pay. So its up to us to make it quite clear to him that there's no way he is going to get away with it. I think it would be a mistake to under estimate the influence that the members of this street art forum might have on the behaviour of this street art "gallery". It didnt seem to work on the giant forum when we were all posting on there to do with this issue. Well just hope everything gets sorted. True. But his "legitimate" business has grown a fair bit since then. He's partnered with modern multiples (who have their own rep to consider) and done the release with Dface etc. When all this kicked off on the giant I guess he felt it wasn't the end of the world as he could just shift his business over here. But there really is nowhere else to go now - he's burnt all his bridges. In short, he's got a lot more to lose now than he did then. imo $8K seems like a small price to pay to save a business that allegedly sold 6500 prints last year. I really hope it gets sorted too.
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JetSet Graffiti, by bigtlt on Feb 18, 2010 16:48:39 GMT 1, Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me.
This sounds like a good idea. Maybe send a message over to d* let him know the kind of person he's dealing with too.
Certainly his gallery status should be taken away and admins should prevent JSG from posting to promote his business until this is resolved. That seems like a good compromise to me. This sounds like a good idea. Maybe send a message over to d* let him know the kind of person he's dealing with too.
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