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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 10, 2010 20:51:20 GMT 1, What are your thoughts on this Banksy installation at Cans Levi?: (image from ACB's flickr)
Yeh must admit that is pretty close. Wasn't there, had I been I may not have done this. But still, it's not a dolls house, it's not boarded up and the kids didn't do it. I don't think Banksy meant that the kids (owners) of the playhouse had done it. More of a rise of graffiti message, as in it comes up everywhere, like the Thomas don't you think?
What are your thoughts on this Banksy installation at Cans Levi?: (image from ACB's flickr) Yeh must admit that is pretty close. Wasn't there, had I been I may not have done this. But still, it's not a dolls house, it's not boarded up and the kids didn't do it. I don't think Banksy meant that the kids (owners) of the playhouse had done it. More of a rise of graffiti message, as in it comes up everywhere, like the Thomas don't you think?
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PRO
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'My First Squat', by PRO on Mar 10, 2010 22:46:26 GMT 1,
I'm also very passionate about street art. The street is a unique and powerful platform where artists can express themselves and what winds me up is while everyone is doing it, almost no one is doing it well, Going out one weekend with some stencils and your dig-cam doesn’t make you a street artist. And no I don't think more people is good for the industry (as you put it), if they are not brining anything new to the table have no artistic talent and are just jumping on the bandwagon then i think it's a bad thing. Like i said before the more crap that is out there the more people are desensitized by it... Just like all the crap adverts you pass on a daily basis and take no notice of. As for urban art this has become the annoying little brother to street art. He is the one who saw something cool, but couldn’t quite pull it off, so he came up with a lame knockoff to impress his friends. Urban art is not street dont get it twisted.
I'm also very passionate about street art. The street is a unique and powerful platform where artists can express themselves and what winds me up is while everyone is doing it, almost no one is doing it well, Going out one weekend with some stencils and your dig-cam doesn’t make you a street artist. And no I don't think more people is good for the industry (as you put it), if they are not brining anything new to the table have no artistic talent and are just jumping on the bandwagon then i think it's a bad thing. Like i said before the more crap that is out there the more people are desensitized by it... Just like all the crap adverts you pass on a daily basis and take no notice of. As for urban art this has become the annoying little brother to street art. He is the one who saw something cool, but couldn’t quite pull it off, so he came up with a lame knockoff to impress his friends. Urban art is not street dont get it twisted.
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LEVI C
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 0:26:47 GMT 1, I'm gonna have to tear this one apart because I can't believe how self rightious you are. No worries with that but let me throw a few thoughts in there.
If they are going out and contributing art on the streets they are expressing themselves, what is wrong with that? whether they are a beginner and in your view 'not doing it well' or not why the fek should it bother you so much. They are contributing to 'street ART' by putting their efforts there, good on them
where did i say i was a street artist? i've shared a few ideas and done a couple of stencils on the street, I don't claim to be a street artist, i'm keen to do more.
you have to have the s**t to appreciate the good stuff and the artistic talent bit...again it will be your opinion
maybe they have been inspired by the street art movement itself. isn't that a good thing? Your chip on your shoulder about 'the bandwagon' makes me think that inside you're angry at yourself for not jumping in. Do you really think the people on here post their art for comments because they have just 'jumped on the bandwagon' i don't. A craze for some maybe
those crap adverts are companies building their brands and influencing you to purchase their products. Mate it's how the world goes around, from a man in a market stall shouting his prices to all the ads you consume everyday.
I'm going to leave the below part un touched as I really think it's an embarassment.
As for urban art this has become the annoying little brother to street art. He is the one who saw something cool, but couldn’t quite pull it off, so he came up with a lame knockoff to impress his friends. Urban art is not street dont get it twisted.
I'm gonna have to tear this one apart because I can't believe how self rightious you are. No worries with that but let me throw a few thoughts in there.
If they are going out and contributing art on the streets they are expressing themselves, what is wrong with that? whether they are a beginner and in your view 'not doing it well' or not why the fek should it bother you so much. They are contributing to 'street ART' by putting their efforts there, good on them
where did i say i was a street artist? i've shared a few ideas and done a couple of stencils on the street, I don't claim to be a street artist, i'm keen to do more.
you have to have the s**t to appreciate the good stuff and the artistic talent bit...again it will be your opinion
maybe they have been inspired by the street art movement itself. isn't that a good thing? Your chip on your shoulder about 'the bandwagon' makes me think that inside you're angry at yourself for not jumping in. Do you really think the people on here post their art for comments because they have just 'jumped on the bandwagon' i don't. A craze for some maybe
those crap adverts are companies building their brands and influencing you to purchase their products. Mate it's how the world goes around, from a man in a market stall shouting his prices to all the ads you consume everyday.
I'm going to leave the below part un touched as I really think it's an embarassment.
As for urban art this has become the annoying little brother to street art. He is the one who saw something cool, but couldn’t quite pull it off, so he came up with a lame knockoff to impress his friends. Urban art is not street dont get it twisted.
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'My First Squat', by raiden on Mar 11, 2010 8:04:37 GMT 1, Fuck everyone who is wanking off on this thread. Each and everyone of you should try to do better than Levi C.
Seriously... do any of you have a red name? Where is your artwork? What have you produced? What street images have you contributed?
Unbelievable that you'd throw stones at this. Yes, the bar has been raised with Stencil art. But does that mean we should bar people from doing anything that isn't as perfect as the top masters of the stencil craft??
I say, go ahead and savage artists who have pieces that sold for over $50K. Brainwash, Banksy, Shep, DFace, Choe, Hirst, etc. They're all fair game.
But its sucks to go ahead an attack an artist of limited resources who is just trying to work out new pieces and perfect his craft.
At least try to be constructive with criticism. Like I thought the girl's playhouse could use some additional detail - perhaps shingles and siding. And I thought it could have been better for the girl to be more expressive, perhaps even seeing her face. But I like the concept of a little girl tagging up her dollhouse.
See?
Is that so hard?
Seriously, Silky should ban you all for a week for being such assholes to an artist on the forum. This is precisely why so many artists don't put up work on here or avoid the message board altogether.
Why don't we let you all put up something you care about - like a picture of your wives or girlfriends - and I can proceed to pick them apart and tell you how ugly they are?
Wankers.
Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid.
Fuck everyone who is wanking off on this thread. Each and everyone of you should try to do better than Levi C.
Seriously... do any of you have a red name? Where is your artwork? What have you produced? What street images have you contributed?
Unbelievable that you'd throw stones at this. Yes, the bar has been raised with Stencil art. But does that mean we should bar people from doing anything that isn't as perfect as the top masters of the stencil craft??
I say, go ahead and savage artists who have pieces that sold for over $50K. Brainwash, Banksy, Shep, DFace, Choe, Hirst, etc. They're all fair game.
But its sucks to go ahead an attack an artist of limited resources who is just trying to work out new pieces and perfect his craft.
At least try to be constructive with criticism. Like I thought the girl's playhouse could use some additional detail - perhaps shingles and siding. And I thought it could have been better for the girl to be more expressive, perhaps even seeing her face. But I like the concept of a little girl tagging up her dollhouse.
See?
Is that so hard?
Seriously, Silky should ban you all for a week for being such assholes to an artist on the forum. This is precisely why so many artists don't put up work on here or avoid the message board altogether.
Why don't we let you all put up something you care about - like a picture of your wives or girlfriends - and I can proceed to pick them apart and tell you how ugly they are?
Wankers.
Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid.
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'My First Squat', by Nico on Mar 11, 2010 8:20:32 GMT 1, Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid.
+1...too much abuse here sometimes.
Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid. +1...too much abuse here sometimes.
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'My First Squat', by manchestermike on Mar 11, 2010 10:20:37 GMT 1, f**k everyone who is wanking off on this thread. Each and everyone of you should try to do better than Levi C. Seriously... do any of you have a red name? Where is your artwork? What have you produced? What street images have you contributed? Unbelievable that you'd throw stones at this. Yes, the bar has been raised with Stencil art. But does that mean we should bar people from doing anything that isn't as perfect as the top masters of the stencil craft?? I say, go ahead and savage artists who have pieces that sold for over $50K. Brainwash, Banksy, Shep, DFace, Choe, Hirst, etc. They're all fair game. But its sucks to go ahead an attack an artist of limited resources who is just trying to work out new pieces and perfect his craft. At least try to be constructive with criticism. Like I thought the girl's playhouse could use some additional detail - perhaps shingles and siding. And I thought it could have been better for the girl to be more expressive, perhaps even seeing her face. But I like the concept of a little girl tagging up her dollhouse. See? Is that so hard? Seriously, Silky should ban you all for a week for being such assholes to an artist on the forum. This is precisely why so many artists don't put up work on here or avoid the message board altogether. Why don't we let you all put up something you care about - like a picture of your wives or girlfriends - and I can proceed to pick them apart and tell you how ugly they are? Wankers. Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid.
What the hell are you on?
The guy asked for opinions... I didn't realise all opinions had to be positive. My HONEST opinion is that I've seen some weak pieces on here in my time on this board but this is well up there with the best (worst?) of them.
I also apologise as I didn't realise that unless you had a red star by your name you weren't qualified to comment - the reason I don't have a red star is that I'm not an artist, I don't profess to be an artist and quite frankly I don't want to be an artist - why should this mean I'm not allowed to comment??
You can't have it both ways - ask for people's views then get all prissy and aggressive when they tell you their views - it doesn't work like that.
ANY artwork posted on these board be it by Banksy or Levi should be open for discussion and criticism, this is a discussion board after all and ANY artist who posts their work on here should be happy to take the criticism - there are many that do and you tend to find they go away and improve for it and often win their doubters over - conversely there are many that don't and continue to churn out what I'd describe as rubbish... an ARTIST in any field should be able to take criticism, it goes with the territory - it doesn't matter if their work sells for £100k or £1 - if they are selling their work (or trying to) they should not be immune to criticism.
f**k everyone who is wanking off on this thread. Each and everyone of you should try to do better than Levi C. Seriously... do any of you have a red name? Where is your artwork? What have you produced? What street images have you contributed? Unbelievable that you'd throw stones at this. Yes, the bar has been raised with Stencil art. But does that mean we should bar people from doing anything that isn't as perfect as the top masters of the stencil craft?? I say, go ahead and savage artists who have pieces that sold for over $50K. Brainwash, Banksy, Shep, DFace, Choe, Hirst, etc. They're all fair game. But its sucks to go ahead an attack an artist of limited resources who is just trying to work out new pieces and perfect his craft. At least try to be constructive with criticism. Like I thought the girl's playhouse could use some additional detail - perhaps shingles and siding. And I thought it could have been better for the girl to be more expressive, perhaps even seeing her face. But I like the concept of a little girl tagging up her dollhouse. See? Is that so hard? Seriously, Silky should ban you all for a week for being such assholes to an artist on the forum. This is precisely why so many artists don't put up work on here or avoid the message board altogether. Why don't we let you all put up something you care about - like a picture of your wives or girlfriends - and I can proceed to pick them apart and tell you how ugly they are? Wankers. Go check out some of Levi's other pieces and his street pieces. He's pretty solid. What the hell are you on? The guy asked for opinions... I didn't realise all opinions had to be positive. My HONEST opinion is that I've seen some weak pieces on here in my time on this board but this is well up there with the best (worst?) of them. I also apologise as I didn't realise that unless you had a red star by your name you weren't qualified to comment - the reason I don't have a red star is that I'm not an artist, I don't profess to be an artist and quite frankly I don't want to be an artist - why should this mean I'm not allowed to comment?? You can't have it both ways - ask for people's views then get all prissy and aggressive when they tell you their views - it doesn't work like that. ANY artwork posted on these board be it by Banksy or Levi should be open for discussion and criticism, this is a discussion board after all and ANY artist who posts their work on here should be happy to take the criticism - there are many that do and you tend to find they go away and improve for it and often win their doubters over - conversely there are many that don't and continue to churn out what I'd describe as rubbish... an ARTIST in any field should be able to take criticism, it goes with the territory - it doesn't matter if their work sells for £100k or £1 - if they are selling their work (or trying to) they should not be immune to criticism.
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'My First Squat', by willywonka on Mar 11, 2010 10:46:42 GMT 1, Seriously... do any of you have a red name?
What has this got to do with whether I can comment or not?
I actually believe I could paint better than this and have in the past but I would never proclaim to be an artist.
If anything I think there are probably too many red names without enough justification for them being red. Just my opinion again though.
And yeah as someone has said on another post I like Raiden's posts as they evolve discussion, I just don't agree with this one.
Seriously... do any of you have a red name? What has this got to do with whether I can comment or not? I actually believe I could paint better than this and have in the past but I would never proclaim to be an artist. If anything I think there are probably too many red names without enough justification for them being red. Just my opinion again though. And yeah as someone has said on another post I like Raiden's posts as they evolve discussion, I just don't agree with this one.
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'My First Squat', by spirit on Mar 11, 2010 11:19:06 GMT 1, I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth...
I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish).
If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions.
I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth...
I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish).
If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions.
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LEVI C
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 11:28:41 GMT 1, edit-Mike -
I can't believe you are sad enough to come back on here and again give the same 'you can't take critisism unless it's positive' wank. Yes I can it was just delivered in a rude manor.
Look, I appreciate to the trained eye, my execution could be improved, no doubt drastically in your opinion. I play congas/percussion and probably very badly to the trained ear, but it wouldn't stop me playing live because I enjoy it and half the audience may also enjoy it. You obviously have a compulsive forum dissorder and are deluded into thinking you're opinion is followed by the viewers looking at your posts over your shoulder. A good example is last nights attack drove 80 people to my blog two of which purchased. You mention 'trying to sell' shows your dire lack of intelligent information. If you have attended any of the shows I have been involved in, along side some top names, you would have noticed where the red dots where.
I don't want to come across cocky and I don't even call myself an artist. I just had a hobby I am passionate about that turned into something more due to demand. If people (whoever they are) enjoy my stuff, then where is the problem? and if they purchase it, it's only going to help me continue and improve to the stage that one day maybe you would have a second look at it. Or at least refrain from being rude.
edit-Mike -
I can't believe you are sad enough to come back on here and again give the same 'you can't take critisism unless it's positive' wank. Yes I can it was just delivered in a rude manor.
Look, I appreciate to the trained eye, my execution could be improved, no doubt drastically in your opinion. I play congas/percussion and probably very badly to the trained ear, but it wouldn't stop me playing live because I enjoy it and half the audience may also enjoy it. You obviously have a compulsive forum dissorder and are deluded into thinking you're opinion is followed by the viewers looking at your posts over your shoulder. A good example is last nights attack drove 80 people to my blog two of which purchased. You mention 'trying to sell' shows your dire lack of intelligent information. If you have attended any of the shows I have been involved in, along side some top names, you would have noticed where the red dots where.
I don't want to come across cocky and I don't even call myself an artist. I just had a hobby I am passionate about that turned into something more due to demand. If people (whoever they are) enjoy my stuff, then where is the problem? and if they purchase it, it's only going to help me continue and improve to the stage that one day maybe you would have a second look at it. Or at least refrain from being rude.
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'My First Squat', by schlomo on Mar 11, 2010 11:34:27 GMT 1, Calm down love, its only a test spray.
Levi, i like the concept, but do see why people think its been done before what with the thomas piece and the piece from cans, and i would imagine the addition of things like the Burning Candy tag, and sweet tooth esq bit on the side, have contributed to peoples comments. For me the house needs a bit more detail, but having seen how your test sprays develop and quickly become much tighter, i'm sure this one will as well man, and i look forward to seeing how it develops.
As an aside, i think its good that people comment in this section of the forum, i wish more people did as personally i believe some good work goes up here and is missed. I do think some of you jumped onto a lets slate Levi bandwagon rather than actually giving constructive criticism tho, perhaps i'm being too sensitive, but telling someone they should quit doing art as they're contributing to the death of stencil art seems a little OTT and just a tad on the rude side, IMO of course.
Calm down love, its only a test spray.
Levi, i like the concept, but do see why people think its been done before what with the thomas piece and the piece from cans, and i would imagine the addition of things like the Burning Candy tag, and sweet tooth esq bit on the side, have contributed to peoples comments. For me the house needs a bit more detail, but having seen how your test sprays develop and quickly become much tighter, i'm sure this one will as well man, and i look forward to seeing how it develops.
As an aside, i think its good that people comment in this section of the forum, i wish more people did as personally i believe some good work goes up here and is missed. I do think some of you jumped onto a lets slate Levi bandwagon rather than actually giving constructive criticism tho, perhaps i'm being too sensitive, but telling someone they should quit doing art as they're contributing to the death of stencil art seems a little OTT and just a tad on the rude side, IMO of course.
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LEVI C
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 11:41:12 GMT 1, I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth... I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish). If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions.
I completely agree with this and do welcome negative comments and can handle the rough with the smooth. As I keep highlighting what got my goat up is the rudeness, the 'this really is piss poor' with nothing else, no reason, no advice on how to make it better. Come on, it was delivered in this way to be nasty...because for some reason they just simply don't like me doing it. If I don't like an artists work and there's plenty on here I don't, I won't insult it in fact I won't even comment unless I have something constructive to say, because I understand that it's my taste so not even worth publishing. Apart from anything else it makes you feel like shit making foul posts, well it does me anyway. Good on everyone that gives it a go. Shame on those that just sit behind a forum insulting their efforts and trying to put them down.
I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth... I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish). If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions. I completely agree with this and do welcome negative comments and can handle the rough with the smooth. As I keep highlighting what got my goat up is the rudeness, the 'this really is piss poor' with nothing else, no reason, no advice on how to make it better. Come on, it was delivered in this way to be nasty...because for some reason they just simply don't like me doing it. If I don't like an artists work and there's plenty on here I don't, I won't insult it in fact I won't even comment unless I have something constructive to say, because I understand that it's my taste so not even worth publishing. Apart from anything else it makes you feel like shit making foul posts, well it does me anyway. Good on everyone that gives it a go. Shame on those that just sit behind a forum insulting their efforts and trying to put them down.
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 11:48:37 GMT 1, Calm down love, its only a test spray. Levi, i like the concept, but do see why people think its been done before what with the thomas piece and the piece from cans, and i would imagine the addition of things like the Burning Candy tag, and sweet tooth esq bit on the side, have contributed to peoples comments. For me the house needs a bit more detail, but having seen how your test sprays develop and quickly become much tighter, i'm sure this one will as well man, and i look forward to seeing how it develops. As an aside, i think its good that people comment in this section of the forum, i wish more people did as personally i believe some good work goes up here and is missed. I do think some of you jumped onto a lets slate Levi bandwagon rather than actually giving constructive criticism tho, perhaps i'm being too sensitive, but telling someone they should quit doing art as they're contributing to the death of stencil art seems a little OTT and just a tad on the rude side, IMO of course.
Cheers man, I did think it had gone a bit far for me to reply with 'hey it's just a test spray chill' but i probably should have. But thanks for mentioning that because they were making a final judgment on something that has so far to go. Those where just the first tags I added they propbably won't be eligible when it's done, that and the hammer and nails that will tune the idea. Like I said I am positive peopleike that are driven by something else. Unfortunatley for them something not very nice.
Calm down love, its only a test spray. Levi, i like the concept, but do see why people think its been done before what with the thomas piece and the piece from cans, and i would imagine the addition of things like the Burning Candy tag, and sweet tooth esq bit on the side, have contributed to peoples comments. For me the house needs a bit more detail, but having seen how your test sprays develop and quickly become much tighter, i'm sure this one will as well man, and i look forward to seeing how it develops. As an aside, i think its good that people comment in this section of the forum, i wish more people did as personally i believe some good work goes up here and is missed. I do think some of you jumped onto a lets slate Levi bandwagon rather than actually giving constructive criticism tho, perhaps i'm being too sensitive, but telling someone they should quit doing art as they're contributing to the death of stencil art seems a little OTT and just a tad on the rude side, IMO of course. Cheers man, I did think it had gone a bit far for me to reply with 'hey it's just a test spray chill' but i probably should have. But thanks for mentioning that because they were making a final judgment on something that has so far to go. Those where just the first tags I added they propbably won't be eligible when it's done, that and the hammer and nails that will tune the idea. Like I said I am positive peopleike that are driven by something else. Unfortunatley for them something not very nice.
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'My First Squat', by manchestermike on Mar 11, 2010 11:53:36 GMT 1, The "(or trying to)" wasn't specifically aimed at you - it was aimed at anyone who puts their artwork out there and up for sale at any price...
I'm not sure what you mean about being "deluded into thinking you're opinion is followed by the viewers looking at your posts over your shoulder" I'm giving my opinion and my opinion only, I really don't care if people agree or not - people disagreeing is good - I'd rather have a discussion about things than everyone agree.
All I have done is comment as you have asked - and once again you've gone off on one and come back with personal attacks - " You are obviously a social media expert with all those stars Mike, so go and notch your posts up somewhere else and stop wasting your time here." - exactly the same as you did when you posted that church piece on WK and asked for opinions, people told you the truth, gave their opinion, the dummy was well and truly spat out and yhe "lets see you try better" comments started.
It's simple, if you don't want opinions don't request them, voicing an opinion if requested to do so is anything but rude.
The "(or trying to)" wasn't specifically aimed at you - it was aimed at anyone who puts their artwork out there and up for sale at any price...
I'm not sure what you mean about being "deluded into thinking you're opinion is followed by the viewers looking at your posts over your shoulder" I'm giving my opinion and my opinion only, I really don't care if people agree or not - people disagreeing is good - I'd rather have a discussion about things than everyone agree.
All I have done is comment as you have asked - and once again you've gone off on one and come back with personal attacks - " You are obviously a social media expert with all those stars Mike, so go and notch your posts up somewhere else and stop wasting your time here." - exactly the same as you did when you posted that church piece on WK and asked for opinions, people told you the truth, gave their opinion, the dummy was well and truly spat out and yhe "lets see you try better" comments started.
It's simple, if you don't want opinions don't request them, voicing an opinion if requested to do so is anything but rude.
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'My First Squat', by alexnh123 on Mar 11, 2010 11:55:51 GMT 1, You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works.
You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works.
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Natas
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'My First Squat', by Natas on Mar 11, 2010 11:56:02 GMT 1, A couple of points Levi the size of the girl vrs the size of the house seems wrong. Girl should be bigger than the dolls house. Also the perspective of the top wood on the window looks wrong.
A couple of points Levi the size of the girl vrs the size of the house seems wrong. Girl should be bigger than the dolls house. Also the perspective of the top wood on the window looks wrong.
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'My First Squat', by baileymontana on Mar 11, 2010 12:04:52 GMT 1, I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth... I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish). If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions. I completely agree with this and do welcome negative comments and can handle the rough with the smooth. As I keep highlighting what got my goat up is the rudeness, the 'this really is piss poor' with nothing else, no reason, no advice on how to make it better. Come on, it was delivered in this way to be nasty...because for some reason they just simply don't like me doing it. If I don't like an artists work and there's plenty on here I don't, I won't insult it in fact I won't even comment unless I have something constructive to say, because I understand that it's my taste so not even worth publishing. Apart from anything else it makes you feel like s**t making foul posts, well it does me anyway. Good on everyone that gives it a go. Shame on those that just sit behind a forum insulting their efforts and trying to put them down.
I do think people should be allowed to say if they feel something is "piss poor"....presume most of the people who use this forum swear in some form or another. It's not the most offensive way to say you don't like something IMO (even though I wouldn't post in that way)
If you feel members are not allowed to post saying the equivalent of "this is bad" without explaining why, then equally people like Krypto should not be able to post "amazing" without letting the forum know why they think your test spray is amazing.
It's a forum and if people don't like or like something then one word posts should suffice. As you asked for comments I added mine and tried to be constructive but maybe you shoul quantify next time you put something up you should say "please only post comments if you are willing to fully explain why you don't like my work in a paragraph or more". (This is not meant to be sarcastic BTW).
From Banksy to MBW to Cartrain....all publicity is good publicity....just make sure you handle positive and negative comments in a positive way. Calling someone a cock is worse than saying something is piss poor IMO.
I think if you are going to ask for people's opinions on a public forum, then you've got to take the rough with the smooth... I also don't agree with this "if you haven't got anything positive to say , don't say anything" idea because I don't think that's good for either the artist (who would get a false sense of what people think of his work) or the board (which would get a reputation for praising rubbish). If you are sensitive about your work and you don't like hearing negative comments about it, you have to either produce work which is indisputably excellent or simply keep it to yourself and don't go posting it on forums asking for opinions. I completely agree with this and do welcome negative comments and can handle the rough with the smooth. As I keep highlighting what got my goat up is the rudeness, the 'this really is piss poor' with nothing else, no reason, no advice on how to make it better. Come on, it was delivered in this way to be nasty...because for some reason they just simply don't like me doing it. If I don't like an artists work and there's plenty on here I don't, I won't insult it in fact I won't even comment unless I have something constructive to say, because I understand that it's my taste so not even worth publishing. Apart from anything else it makes you feel like s**t making foul posts, well it does me anyway. Good on everyone that gives it a go. Shame on those that just sit behind a forum insulting their efforts and trying to put them down. I do think people should be allowed to say if they feel something is "piss poor"....presume most of the people who use this forum swear in some form or another. It's not the most offensive way to say you don't like something IMO (even though I wouldn't post in that way) If you feel members are not allowed to post saying the equivalent of "this is bad" without explaining why, then equally people like Krypto should not be able to post "amazing" without letting the forum know why they think your test spray is amazing. It's a forum and if people don't like or like something then one word posts should suffice. As you asked for comments I added mine and tried to be constructive but maybe you shoul quantify next time you put something up you should say "please only post comments if you are willing to fully explain why you don't like my work in a paragraph or more". (This is not meant to be sarcastic BTW). From Banksy to MBW to Cartrain....all publicity is good publicity....just make sure you handle positive and negative comments in a positive way. Calling someone a cock is worse than saying something is piss poor IMO.
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LEVI C
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 12:19:07 GMT 1, You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works.
These are very very good points and you can imagine something I have been thinking about for sometime, especially since the demand for my stuff has increased. You'll notice Beejoir posting his stuff back in 2006 and I have been questionshing 'when' is the right time to stop. I think I will certainly stop posting 'in progress' stuff and only finished ideas. I guess I have a loyalty to the forum after previous encouragement and customers (the lurkers mainly) and you must admit it is quite a well targeted audience for my type of stuff. But it is time consuming, I only posted this idea yesterday and responded so much because I was in babysitting the kids and there was nothing on the box. This is something I'm looking at and I know my gallery aren't keen. thanks again
Carl - Thanks great comment, I actually cut a smaller house first and it looked wrong, but do see your point.
You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works. These are very very good points and you can imagine something I have been thinking about for sometime, especially since the demand for my stuff has increased. You'll notice Beejoir posting his stuff back in 2006 and I have been questionshing 'when' is the right time to stop. I think I will certainly stop posting 'in progress' stuff and only finished ideas. I guess I have a loyalty to the forum after previous encouragement and customers (the lurkers mainly) and you must admit it is quite a well targeted audience for my type of stuff. But it is time consuming, I only posted this idea yesterday and responded so much because I was in babysitting the kids and there was nothing on the box. This is something I'm looking at and I know my gallery aren't keen. thanks again Carl - Thanks great comment, I actually cut a smaller house first and it looked wrong, but do see your point.
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 12:28:00 GMT 1,
Sorry I just need to point out that I called him a Cock because he accused me of also being 'Krypto' and has since deleted the accusation.
Mike- yeh ok I learnt a few things from WK and would change my words over there if I could. I also posted 'My Kid Could Paint That' and 'We are not amused' which also got slated. However, the editions of 10 sold out instantly, so you can understand me not seeing it very useful place to seek feedback.
Sorry I just need to point out that I called him a Cock because he accused me of also being 'Krypto' and has since deleted the accusation.
Mike- yeh ok I learnt a few things from WK and would change my words over there if I could. I also posted 'My Kid Could Paint That' and 'We are not amused' which also got slated. However, the editions of 10 sold out instantly, so you can understand me not seeing it very useful place to seek feedback.
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'My First Squat', by manchestermike on Mar 11, 2010 12:35:32 GMT 1, I can understand your point - I do believe though that the posters/critics on there are very fair and balanced and more often than not back it up with reasoning.
Also (again this is not directed at you) just because something sells out in no way means it is perfect or anywhere near, so the more feedback you seek and take on the more your work will improve
I can understand your point - I do believe though that the posters/critics on there are very fair and balanced and more often than not back it up with reasoning.
Also (again this is not directed at you) just because something sells out in no way means it is perfect or anywhere near, so the more feedback you seek and take on the more your work will improve
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LEVI C
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'My First Squat', by LEVI C on Mar 11, 2010 12:40:27 GMT 1,
Yes I agree and that is why I still post here, it's just the one liners like. "certainly put more kindly than I could have" or whatever you said, that are not helpful.
Yes I agree and that is why I still post here, it's just the one liners like. "certainly put more kindly than I could have" or whatever you said, that are not helpful.
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'My First Squat', by nex on Mar 11, 2010 12:42:34 GMT 1, can't you just go away, take stock, think about the pieces you've created so far, come to an ephinany that you need to find a style/an idea/something that IS Levi C - just make the work and stick two fingers up at the world?
can't you just go away, take stock, think about the pieces you've created so far, come to an ephinany that you need to find a style/an idea/something that IS Levi C - just make the work and stick two fingers up at the world?
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'My First Squat', by notworthit on Mar 11, 2010 12:58:48 GMT 1, You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works. These are very very good points and you can imagine something I have been thinking about for sometime, especially since the demand for my stuff has increased. You'll notice Beejoir posting his stuff back in 2006 and I have been questionshing 'when' is the right time to stop. I think I will certainly stop posting 'in progress' stuff and only finished ideas. I guess I have a loyalty to the forum after previous encouragement and customers (the lurkers mainly) and you must admit it is quite a well targeted audience for my type of stuff. But it is time consuming, I only posted this idea yesterday and responded so much because I was in babysitting the kids and there was nothing on the box. This is something I'm looking at and I know my gallery aren't keen. thanks again Carl - Thanks great comment, I actually cut a smaller house first and it looked wrong, but do see your point.
Oi! I'm a professional layabout thank you very much!
You're not going to win this one dude, you're a little outnumbered. I don't think you're doing yourself any favours by retorting every time. As i have said to Cartrain in the past; you don't see the big dogs pedalling their work on the forums and engaging on here. Your best route to achieving any sort of respect and notoriety would be to leave your work to be discovered. If it's good enough it'll catch our eye. And I would suggest leaving all discussion threads to be started by others; that way they will have a little more credibility and clout to them. I would say there is always the risk of looking like you expect people to go; 'wow' move over banksy we have a new king in town"! and when people suspect that, there can be a tendency to be a little harsher. Another tip; i really would ensure your work is completed before going live with it - you would help it to be seen in the best possible light. Keep going though dude; better an amateur artist than a professional lay about. Good luck with your future projects – hope you’re not too disheartened by the comments on here. I hope you take note of the above and I’m sure we all look forward to encountering your future works. These are very very good points and you can imagine something I have been thinking about for sometime, especially since the demand for my stuff has increased. You'll notice Beejoir posting his stuff back in 2006 and I have been questionshing 'when' is the right time to stop. I think I will certainly stop posting 'in progress' stuff and only finished ideas. I guess I have a loyalty to the forum after previous encouragement and customers (the lurkers mainly) and you must admit it is quite a well targeted audience for my type of stuff. But it is time consuming, I only posted this idea yesterday and responded so much because I was in babysitting the kids and there was nothing on the box. This is something I'm looking at and I know my gallery aren't keen. thanks again Carl - Thanks great comment, I actually cut a smaller house first and it looked wrong, but do see your point. Oi! I'm a professional layabout thank you very much!
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'My First Squat', by skitch on Mar 13, 2010 21:07:28 GMT 1, keep up the day job... some real shocking pieces of work going round the forum at the minute MBW has given hope to the red star gang.
keep up the day job... some real shocking pieces of work going round the forum at the minute MBW has given hope to the red star gang.
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krypto
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'My First Squat', by krypto on Mar 14, 2010 1:28:36 GMT 1, done any more work on this little gem yet ?
done any more work on this little gem yet ?
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