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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by slowmo on May 21, 2008 22:28:34 GMT 1, I have no problem in anyone selling on the piece. All I wouild like to see is that any secondary sale is done so in the spirit of which it was made. I did consider marking the back of every print to say that it was a charity print and that I would hope that anyone selling it on would respect the ethos of the piece and donate a % from any subsequant sale. In the end I decide not to do that as I respect this forum and it's members and believed that everyone who had supported me in this project had done so with the 'cause' in mind and didn't need to be dictated to. I'm also very aware that some people probably bought the print not because they particually liked it, but because they wanted to support the charity in question. There were also many people who wanted to add their support but sadly missed out on the chance to do so. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but I just feel that to do so in this case would be a kick in the teeth to so many well meaning contributions from many people on this forum. Thank you for your continued support GRAFTER
Hey mate, first up, you know I love your work and I massively respect what you done. But you have to be realistic about this, they bought your print primarily, the donation was definitely secondary, or else all those people not liking the image would have just put a donation of the same amount to the charity if they truly appreciated the cause.
Simple truth is, you have closed the edition, you have done cans, it was liked and people trumpeted your work there, as indeed did I, people are also beginning to cut your work out of walls!!!! So if someone got your print and decided hey I don't want this, why should they not have the choice to make a profit? Like I said, I understand why you personally would be disappointed because you done this for charity, but you cannot expect or hope that on re-sale people will do as you done.
I have no problem in anyone selling on the piece. All I wouild like to see is that any secondary sale is done so in the spirit of which it was made. I did consider marking the back of every print to say that it was a charity print and that I would hope that anyone selling it on would respect the ethos of the piece and donate a % from any subsequant sale. In the end I decide not to do that as I respect this forum and it's members and believed that everyone who had supported me in this project had done so with the 'cause' in mind and didn't need to be dictated to. I'm also very aware that some people probably bought the print not because they particually liked it, but because they wanted to support the charity in question. There were also many people who wanted to add their support but sadly missed out on the chance to do so. There is nothing wrong with making a profit, but I just feel that to do so in this case would be a kick in the teeth to so many well meaning contributions from many people on this forum. Thank you for your continued support GRAFTER Hey mate, first up, you know I love your work and I massively respect what you done. But you have to be realistic about this, they bought your print primarily, the donation was definitely secondary, or else all those people not liking the image would have just put a donation of the same amount to the charity if they truly appreciated the cause. Simple truth is, you have closed the edition, you have done cans, it was liked and people trumpeted your work there, as indeed did I, people are also beginning to cut your work out of walls!!!! So if someone got your print and decided hey I don't want this, why should they not have the choice to make a profit? Like I said, I understand why you personally would be disappointed because you done this for charity, but you cannot expect or hope that on re-sale people will do as you done. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by richy00 on May 21, 2008 22:56:56 GMT 1, i do agree with the point thats its your print now and you can do what you want with it, but 5 days is taking the piss...
i do agree with the point thats its your print now and you can do what you want with it, but 5 days is taking the piss...
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by griffermans on May 21, 2008 22:59:28 GMT 1, nice work grafter, hats off mate!
nice work grafter, hats off mate!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Grafter on May 21, 2008 23:01:05 GMT 1, Point taken, Slowmo...
But, Hey.....it kinda leaves a bad taste, don't it... ?
Point taken, Slowmo... But, Hey.....it kinda leaves a bad taste, don't it... ? |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by slowmo on May 21, 2008 23:04:32 GMT 1, Point taken, Slowmo... But, Hey.....it kinda leaves a bad taste, don't it... ?
Yeah a little bit, but to be honest mate, you have made a fantastic donation through your work, so keep that taste in your mouth, as I would expect if you keep going the way you are in terms of your work improving, you can expect to see more of these on there soon.
BTW on a lighter note, your billboard mans legs are still far too short!!! ;D
Point taken, Slowmo... But, Hey.....it kinda leaves a bad taste, don't it... ? Yeah a little bit, but to be honest mate, you have made a fantastic donation through your work, so keep that taste in your mouth, as I would expect if you keep going the way you are in terms of your work improving, you can expect to see more of these on there soon. BTW on a lighter note, your billboard mans legs are still far too short!!! ;D |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by mammal2 on May 21, 2008 23:10:17 GMT 1, Interesting, so when is long enough? The charity donation was grafters (and he has and should be saluted for it), not whoever bought it surely? Grafter put these up effectively on behalf of the charity to raise funds, once bought, what right does anyone have to pass judgement on what they choose to do with it? I have no opinion on whether its right or wrong what happened here, but does anyone know why they put it up for sale? Maybe they didnt like it when they got it, maybe they need some money themselves, maybe they wanted to make a profit? Any which way they bought this print, its theirs to do with as they please isn't it? No one gets flamed for selling flag by Banksy? Its a charity print too? So how long is long enough before someone can sell?
I agree soooo much! I understand being pissed off, but damn one you sell it, its yours! Its art. Make it, let it go. If idiots get hold of it, there is nothing you can do. But, if they actually have it in their hands, even though most may not like it, it is there's. Charity or non. Theres to do what they like. The way of the world.
Interesting, so when is long enough? The charity donation was grafters (and he has and should be saluted for it), not whoever bought it surely? Grafter put these up effectively on behalf of the charity to raise funds, once bought, what right does anyone have to pass judgement on what they choose to do with it? I have no opinion on whether its right or wrong what happened here, but does anyone know why they put it up for sale? Maybe they didnt like it when they got it, maybe they need some money themselves, maybe they wanted to make a profit? Any which way they bought this print, its theirs to do with as they please isn't it? No one gets flamed for selling flag by Banksy? Its a charity print too? So how long is long enough before someone can sell? I agree soooo much! I understand being pissed off, but damn one you sell it, its yours! Its art. Make it, let it go. If idiots get hold of it, there is nothing you can do. But, if they actually have it in their hands, even though most may not like it, it is there's. Charity or non. Theres to do what they like. The way of the world. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Grafter on May 21, 2008 23:20:06 GMT 1, mammal, I understand and probably agree..........But I don't have to like it.
mammal, I understand and probably agree..........But I don't have to like it.
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by carlito on May 21, 2008 23:21:49 GMT 1, true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar 
true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bobbyt23 on May 21, 2008 23:23:15 GMT 1, true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar
HaHa yeah, that fallen angel image is nice so would like to see it on the canvas too.
true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar HaHa yeah, that fallen angel image is nice so would like to see it on the canvas too. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by dh on May 21, 2008 23:27:19 GMT 1, The person that bought the piece off you has already made the donation, if they want to bin it, burn it or sell it they can.
The person that bought the piece off you has already made the donation, if they want to bin it, burn it or sell it they can.
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Grafter on May 21, 2008 23:34:20 GMT 1, true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar
Hope you like...
30x30 inches....
true enough fella - it's the nature of the beast...now lets have a proper look at that new canvas I can see in your avatar Hope you like... 30x30 inches.... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bobbyt23 on May 21, 2008 23:36:10 GMT 1, Looks great. I love how the red of the rose just pops out!!!
Looks great. I love how the red of the rose just pops out!!!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by carlito on May 21, 2008 23:57:24 GMT 1, great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it?
great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it?
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by newmang on May 22, 2008 0:01:09 GMT 1, Great canvas Grafter, really love this apart from the first finger that doesnt look like it belongs. Once I'd seen it in the close-up it dominated the canvas, even more so than the red flower.
Great canvas Grafter, really love this apart from the first finger that doesnt look like it belongs. Once I'd seen it in the close-up it dominated the canvas, even more so than the red flower.
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Grafter on May 22, 2008 0:35:07 GMT 1, great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it?
The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone.
That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them...
great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it? The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone. That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by richy00 on May 22, 2008 1:10:03 GMT 1, i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff.
i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done..
keep up the good work.
i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff.
i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done..
keep up the good work.
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by shaunyboy on May 22, 2008 1:24:22 GMT 1, Hey Grafter,
If we are all agreed that once bought it is up to the owner what happens to it then please let me know who decided to sell after 5 days.
Cheers mate,
Shaun
Hey Grafter,
If we are all agreed that once bought it is up to the owner what happens to it then please let me know who decided to sell after 5 days.
Cheers mate,
Shaun
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by jfury on May 22, 2008 14:06:32 GMT 1, i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff. i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done.. keep up the good work.
my new piece......
i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff. i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done.. keep up the good work. my new piece...... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Prescription Art on May 22, 2008 14:08:13 GMT 1, i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff. i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done.. keep up the good work. my new piece......
Great wallpaper!
i love that grafter, pm me if your interested in doing a commission or how i can get my hands on some more stuff. i have found something my girlfriend actually likes, upon seeing the print she really likes it and what it stands for which is the first print she has done.. keep up the good work. my new piece...... Great wallpaper! |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by timba82 on May 22, 2008 14:17:57 GMT 1, That looks the biz mate! nice!!!
That looks the biz mate! nice!!!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by jfury on May 22, 2008 14:20:31 GMT 1, RE: The wallpaper its by ERICA WAKERLY (REF COLLECTION 01 β WINDMILL BLK/WHT)
RE: The wallpaper its by ERICA WAKERLY (REF COLLECTION 01 β WINDMILL BLK/WHT)
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by carlito on May 22, 2008 14:40:12 GMT 1, great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it? The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone. That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them...
know exactly where you're coming from - this has really added to the piece for me - ta mate
great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it? The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone. That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them... know exactly where you're coming from - this has really added to the piece for me - ta mate |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by richy00 on May 22, 2008 14:42:35 GMT 1, i love that canvas... how do i get one??
i love that canvas... how do i get one??
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by jfury on May 22, 2008 14:47:52 GMT 1, i love that canvas... how do i get one??
Β£5000.00 you can have mine 
i love that canvas... how do i get one?? Β£5000.00 you can have mine |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by seidbereit on May 22, 2008 14:55:39 GMT 1, Lovely canvas J. How big is it?
I see it hanging next to romanywg's bust piece but as I don't know how big they are either it's not much help.
Lovely canvas J. How big is it? I see it hanging next to romanywg's bust piece but as I don't know how big they are either it's not much help. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by b4life on May 22, 2008 16:20:16 GMT 1, you the man
you the man
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by bobbyt23 on May 22, 2008 17:22:10 GMT 1, great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it? The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone. That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them...
I like it even more now. Fully understand where you are coming from with this one.
Once again, great piece.
great piece mate / really thought provoking ....what's your story behind it? The main idea/theme of this piece was the hoplesness and pain of loss. Having been through a berevment I know, only too well, the feeling that the pain of grief can be all consuming and sometimes simply too hard to take. The fact that it is an angel going through the same process represents the fact that this feeling is so powerfull it should be viewed as a natural part of the grieving process and not a personal disfunction that one person is suffering alone. That is how I see it. Hopefully everyone who takes the time to view it will get their own personal vibe from it and take their own thoughts from it. If they do I would be incredibly intrested to hear them... I like it even more now. Fully understand where you are coming from with this one. Once again, great piece. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by kahuna on May 22, 2008 19:04:56 GMT 1, MAW arrived Stateside today.
Congrats to Grafter on a successful, well-executed and perfectly organized project.
Thank you for providing us with a beautiful piece of original art and tremendous value.
From the kudos and commissions Grafter is receiving, it really does look like "good goes around".
MAW arrived Stateside today.
Congrats to Grafter on a successful, well-executed and perfectly organized project.
Thank you for providing us with a beautiful piece of original art and tremendous value.
From the kudos and commissions Grafter is receiving, it really does look like "good goes around".
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by kahuna on May 23, 2008 3:53:30 GMT 1, Another nice piece from Grafter. He is certainly worthy of that red star.
Another nice piece from Grafter. He is certainly worthy of that red star.
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