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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by met on Nov 8, 2014 19:42:44 GMT 1, I love your posts... very much needed informed content and respecting other members' opinions, even if you disagree. 
Your own post is very kind, although some qualifications are needed to discourage impressions that may be misleading. I am upfront, keen to discover and learn, but not especially nice.
Considered opinions that differ to my own are those I find most rewarding. They test me and force a constant rethink and re-evaluation of my own views.
That said, I do discriminate between members here. Some I respect and pay close attention to, others I ignore, based on previous dealings or post history.
The latter camp would include that petty, shrieking fireman β sorry, firefighter β who used to post here and get into arguments with everybody. A troll-like figure yelling "troll!" at anyone who challenged him, especially when outwitted or when his flawed reasoning and stupidity were exposed.
These are the types of people I simply disregard. It isn't respectful of me, but there's no inclination on my part to acknowledge them. On the occasions I do read their posts, I often visualise angry, red-faced man-children with sweaty foreheads and big chips on their shoulders. You could run rings around their arguments but they'd remain oblivious, defensive and shouty β like many who comment on YouTube. Having a discussion with them is a waste of time and energy, precious resources much better directed elsewhere.
In truth, I'd also feel tainted by any association. So engaging with these characters would be like trying to pop a zit and ending up with a permanent scar on my face. Sometimes it's best to turn a blind eye to bad things and hope they go away.
Ignorance isn't a problem for me. We're all ignorant about a ridiculous number of things. And this can be overcome through increased awareness, personal learning and education.
Stupidity, however, is a different issue. For me it just merits contempt.
I love your posts... very much needed informed content and respecting other members' opinions, even if you disagree. Your own post is very kind, although some qualifications are needed to discourage impressions that may be misleading. I am upfront, keen to discover and learn, but not especially nice. Considered opinions that differ to my own are those I find most rewarding. They test me and force a constant rethink and re-evaluation of my own views. That said, I do discriminate between members here. Some I respect and pay close attention to, others I ignore, based on previous dealings or post history. The latter camp would include that petty, shrieking fireman β sorry, firefighter β who used to post here and get into arguments with everybody. A troll-like figure yelling "troll!" at anyone who challenged him, especially when outwitted or when his flawed reasoning and stupidity were exposed. These are the types of people I simply disregard. It isn't respectful of me, but there's no inclination on my part to acknowledge them. On the occasions I do read their posts, I often visualise angry, red-faced man-children with sweaty foreheads and big chips on their shoulders. You could run rings around their arguments but they'd remain oblivious, defensive and shouty β like many who comment on YouTube. Having a discussion with them is a waste of time and energy, precious resources much better directed elsewhere. In truth, I'd also feel tainted by any association. So engaging with these characters would be like trying to pop a zit and ending up with a permanent scar on my face. Sometimes it's best to turn a blind eye to bad things and hope they go away. Ignorance isn't a problem for me. We're all ignorant about a ridiculous number of things. And this can be overcome through increased awareness, personal learning and education. Stupidity, however, is a different issue. For me it just merits contempt. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by mega on Nov 8, 2014 21:27:48 GMT 1, i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/megaNYNY/DSC00998.jpg
I love my Grafter Splash - amongst my favorites... maybe it's not "original" enough for some, or technically difficult enough to suit the tastes of others but it is definitely a favorite of mine - why? because it makes me smile...that is enough for me....I don't know if that makes my opinion or purchase any less important or meaningful than someone who bought a piece of art because they think it has some deeper meaning but I look at the meaning and purpose of art to include evoking emotion - which happiness is ...not sure I would add another Grafter unless there was something a little different than the other works I have seen...but you never know....just my thoughts...
i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/megaNYNY/DSC00998.jpgI love my Grafter Splash - amongst my favorites... maybe it's not "original" enough for some, or technically difficult enough to suit the tastes of others but it is definitely a favorite of mine - why? because it makes me smile...that is enough for me....I don't know if that makes my opinion or purchase any less important or meaningful than someone who bought a piece of art because they think it has some deeper meaning but I look at the meaning and purpose of art to include evoking emotion - which happiness is ...not sure I would add another Grafter unless there was something a little different than the other works I have seen...but you never know....just my thoughts...
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by andyroo0312 on Nov 8, 2014 23:34:41 GMT 1, Because he's not a career artist, just a part time Harry. Would you buy a car if you knew the car factory was just about to close down. 
I think Grafter is a great example of a normal guy that loves to do what he does and that shows thru in his art.
I love my Splash, it so reminds me of my daughter when she was around that age and makes me smile every time i look at it. I don't find his work is amazingly skilful or thought provoking but Splash makes me feel warm inside and for that alone Grafter gets a big thumbs up from me  also you gota give the guy a dip of your bowler even if his art is not for you as how many other artists take the time to post and share video,s of the process with us ungrateful souls
Because he's not a career artist, just a part time Harry. Would you buy a car if you knew the car factory was just about to close down. Hell yeah, I scored a brand new MGTF at 1/3 of the cost when MG Rover went tits up in 2005 I think Grafter is a great example of a normal guy that loves to do what he does and that shows thru in his art. I love my Splash, it so reminds me of my daughter when she was around that age and makes me smile every time i look at it. I don't find his work is amazingly skilful or thought provoking but Splash makes me feel warm inside and for that alone Grafter gets a big thumbs up from me also you gota give the guy a dip of your bowler even if his art is not for you as how many other artists take the time to post and share video,s of the process with us ungrateful souls |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by met on Nov 9, 2014 0:30:07 GMT 1, Gee, you guys. I think this one was my favourite; "Eelus in 2006 on a bad day... and that's being kind. " BRILLIANT...
Somehow I overlooked this comment, but I'll belatedly applaud it.
Your post is the perfect lesson to both other artists and their representatives in how best to deal with detractors.
It makes a wonderful change from the shrill diva freakouts that often erupt when a person's work is criticised.
Gee, you guys. I think this one was my favourite; "Eelus in 2006 on a bad day... and that's being kind. " BRILLIANT... Somehow I overlooked this comment, but I'll belatedly applaud it. Your post is the perfect lesson to both other artists and their representatives in how best to deal with detractors. It makes a wonderful change from the shrill diva freakouts that often erupt when a person's work is criticised. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Happy Shopper on Nov 9, 2014 1:00:18 GMT 1, I think I should take back my comment about "Eelus on a bad day", as it disrespects Eelus... who's done some very interesting things over the years!
Good luck to Grafter, and fans of his work. I don't have any problem with it... But I'm sure even he would admit he's not "one of the best artists out there"... Which is the point in question 
All opinions hey!? Hahaha
I think I should take back my comment about "Eelus on a bad day", as it disrespects Eelus... who's done some very interesting things over the years! Good luck to Grafter, and fans of his work. I don't have any problem with it... But I'm sure even he would admit he's not "one of the best artists out there"... Which is the point in question All opinions hey!? Hahaha |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by dazarino on Nov 9, 2014 1:04:19 GMT 1, I have this hanging in my dining room and it gets a lot of comments from people - 
This is a great looking piece of art.don't care if it doesn't have a deeper meaning.I don't own one but pleasing on the eye
Oh and the athena comment? Yes They used to sell famous images but I would think the originals of their artwork would be worth more than most of the art discussed on this forum.open copy editions are not for the passionate collectors but for the masses.just like all those banksy fake canvases out there.
Some people just like great images without the care of who created them
I have this hanging in my dining room and it gets a lot of comments from people - This is a great looking piece of art.don't care if it doesn't have a deeper meaning.I don't own one but pleasing on the eye Oh and the athena comment? Yes They used to sell famous images but I would think the originals of their artwork would be worth more than most of the art discussed on this forum.open copy editions are not for the passionate collectors but for the masses.just like all those banksy fake canvases out there. Some people just like great images without the care of who created them |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Wearology on Nov 9, 2014 2:54:38 GMT 1, Here's the wood version. I also get a lot of love from my guests when they see it.
Make A Wish on Canvas
Hand finished on thick paper
Splash Wood Version
Eskimo Child
sold this about a year ago and I regret it every day
Here's the wood version. I also get a lot of love from my guests when they see it. Make A Wish on Canvas Hand finished on thick paper Splash Wood Version Eskimo Child sold this about a year ago and I regret it every day |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by met on Nov 9, 2014 3:47:26 GMT 1, Gee, you guys. I think this one was my favourite; "Eelus in 2006 on a bad day... and that's being kind. " BRILLIANT...
Gee, you guys. I think this one was my favourite; "Eelus in 2006 on a bad day... and that's being kind. " BRILLIANT... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by dazarino on Nov 9, 2014 10:19:46 GMT 1, Great pick up with the wood version. Looks amazing
Great pick up with the wood version. Looks amazing |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 19:38:16 GMT 1, I have a Grafter 'Splash' red on white reclaimed floorboards to sell
I got it directly from the artist himself, with certificate about 5 years ago
Any advice on how / where to sell it greatly appreciated!
Janey
I have a Grafter 'Splash' red on white reclaimed floorboards to sell
I got it directly from the artist himself, with certificate about 5 years ago
Any advice on how / where to sell it greatly appreciated!
Janey
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 22:10:24 GMT 1, Ok. I'm new to this sorry
Trying to add photo now
Ok. I'm new to this sorry
Trying to add photo now
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Liverpool ste123 on Jan 6, 2015 22:23:41 GMT 1, It's okay, I've been here a while now and STILL don't know how to put a pic up!
Technology and it's know-how is not my strongest forte... 
It's okay, I've been here a while now and STILL don't know how to put a pic up! Technology and it's know-how is not my strongest forte... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 22:27:41 GMT 1, I can't work out how to do it
It won't let me even put it as my avatar as it says the JPEG is too big
I don't know what to do !!! Agghh
I can email U photos if u like ?
I'd really like to know if anyone can help tell me how to put a photo up!
Ta
I can't work out how to do it
It won't let me even put it as my avatar as it says the JPEG is too big
I don't know what to do !!! Agghh
I can email U photos if u like ?
I'd really like to know if anyone can help tell me how to put a photo up!
Ta
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Liverpool ste123 on Jan 6, 2015 22:41:52 GMT 1, Oooooh what kind of photos you wanting to email janey?
And to think, we've only just become acquainted...
Oooooh what kind of photos you wanting to email janey? And to think, we've only just become acquainted... |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 22:43:42 GMT 1, Hahahahaha just the ones of the grafter luckily for U
I'm going to give it one more try on the computer as opposed to the phone then give up and ask someone technical to help tomorrow!
Hahahahaha just the ones of the grafter luckily for U
I'm going to give it one more try on the computer as opposed to the phone then give up and ask someone technical to help tomorrow!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Liverpool ste123 on Jan 6, 2015 22:46:05 GMT 1, Okie doke, but please PM too when you've decided on a price as I genuinely do collect Grafter.
I don't trawl the forum looking for flirtatious meanderings! *honest*
Okie doke, but please PM too when you've decided on a price as I genuinely do collect Grafter. I don't trawl the forum looking for flirtatious meanderings! *honest* |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 22:49:49 GMT 1, What's pm?
I want to sell it asap
It's hard to get an idea on the price as none have been sold recently so I'm researching now on what I can get for it
What's pm?
I want to sell it asap
It's hard to get an idea on the price as none have been sold recently so I'm researching now on what I can get for it
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 6, 2015 22:51:45 GMT 1, Ok I managed to get a pic of it as my 'avatar' hope that helps!
Ok I managed to get a pic of it as my 'avatar' hope that helps!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by daniel3886 on Jan 6, 2015 22:59:39 GMT 1, Pm is private message like the one I just sent you! ;-)
Deal in compete confidence with Janey she's an old colleague of mine and is as honest as the day is long!
Pm is private message like the one I just sent you! ;-)
Deal in compete confidence with Janey she's an old colleague of mine and is as honest as the day is long!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Liverpool ste123 on Jan 6, 2015 23:00:19 GMT 1, PM = Private Message
Ah I see it now... To fathom an value to it, start off with how much you paid for it & if you consider it's worth a return on your original outlay or be cheeky like some folk on here and ask for 400% more
Anything inbetween is also acceptable!
PM = Private Message Ah I see it now... To fathom an value to it, start off with how much you paid for it & if you consider it's worth a return on your original outlay or be cheeky like some folk on here and ask for 400% more Anything inbetween is also acceptable! |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by SchrΓΆdinger's Chat on Jan 7, 2015 8:51:05 GMT 1, The age old question of 'how the f@ck do you upload photos?'
The best way I find to upload pictures onto the forum is to sign up to something like Photobucket. You then upload the image your wanting to insert into your Photobucket account.
Next you click on the image and it should have 4 different options , you select the bottom one, this gives you a url(?) that links which you copy and paste into your post, and as if by magic it pulls the photo through when you submit the post!
The age old question of 'how the f@ck do you upload photos?'
The best way I find to upload pictures onto the forum is to sign up to something like Photobucket. You then upload the image your wanting to insert into your Photobucket account.
Next you click on the image and it should have 4 different options , you select the bottom one, this gives you a url(?) that links which you copy and paste into your post, and as if by magic it pulls the photo through when you submit the post!
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by andyroo0312 on Jan 7, 2015 12:21:55 GMT 1, Here is a link to EB with pics and a bit of sale history link. I know there was a different version of this for sale on here last year you can check out as well. link
Here is a link to EB with pics and a bit of sale history link. I know there was a different version of this for sale on here last year you can check out as well. link |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by Wearology on Jan 7, 2015 12:47:35 GMT 1, Here is a link to EB with pics and a bit of sale history link. I know there was a different version of this for sale on here last year you can check out as well. link
I commissioned the piece and had Grafter do the splash part in Navy Blue instead of Red.
I can't remember exactly what it sold for but it went to a forum member for close to my asking price.
and the transaction was very smooth. One day I will buy another Grafter Splash on wood.
GLWTS.
Here is a link to EB with pics and a bit of sale history link. I know there was a different version of this for sale on here last year you can check out as well. link I sold the Grafter Splash on wood with a Navy splash a while back and regret selling it ever since. I commissioned the piece and had Grafter do the splash part in Navy Blue instead of Red. I can't remember exactly what it sold for but it went to a forum member for close to my asking price. and the transaction was very smooth. One day I will buy another Grafter Splash on wood. GLWTS. |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 7, 2015 13:13:21 GMT 1, Thank you so much
I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it
Thank you so much
I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by tab1 on Jan 7, 2015 13:39:00 GMT 1, Thank you so much I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it
You swapped ?
I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys ..
Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success
And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off
Thank you so much I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it You swapped ? I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys .. Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 7, 2015 14:59:09 GMT 1, Yes we swapped. The red splash was still not completely dry when he gave it to me. I really love it, I have seen, as U say some went for about Β£3k in the states at auction. But since then it's hard to get an idea what to let it go for. I have some offers already though so it's looking hopeful! Thank you for the info it concurs with what I thought so that's good
Yes we swapped. The red splash was still not completely dry when he gave it to me. I really love it, I have seen, as U say some went for about Β£3k in the states at auction. But since then it's hard to get an idea what to let it go for. I have some offers already though so it's looking hopeful! Thank you for the info it concurs with what I thought so that's good
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by janey on Jan 7, 2015 15:00:18 GMT 1, There will be pictures of it on here later today btw
There will be pictures of it on here later today btw
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by andyroo0312 on Jan 7, 2015 15:13:55 GMT 1, Thank you so much I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it You swapped ? I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys .. Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off
Thank you so much I got mine after I bought a Lola and didn't like it. The artist kindly commissioned me this splash in return for the Lola but I haven't seen many on floorboards sell recently. Ill check out the link above thank you all! I've had a couple of offers so looks like this was the right place to come to sell it You swapped ? I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys .. Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off I have had 4 versions of this and i have never heard of any of them selling for more than Β£1500 and that one was a 1 off on glass. Same as above i regret selling mine. I had a red and blue canvas but sold both for around Β£700 each the last white on paper i know sold for $800 not saying that 1 here and there have not sold for more but i have never seen it. I know a triptych on wood sold for Β£1100 recently but matching Banksys prices?? I must of been in some kind of Kush coma when that happened mate |
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Grafter π¬π§ Stencil Street Art β’ Art For Sale, by tab1 on Jan 7, 2015 15:43:32 GMT 1, You swapped ? I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys .. Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off I have had 4 versions of this and i have never heard of any of them selling for more than Β£1500 and that one was a 1 off on glass. Same as above i regret selling mine. I had a red and blue canvas but sold both for around Β£700 each Β the last white on paper i know sold for $800 not saying that 1 here and there have not sold for more but i have never seen it. I know a triptych on wood sold for Β£1100 recently but matching Banksys prices?? I must of been in some kind of Kush coma when that happened mate
Toxic Mary and monkey queen were selling for the same if you check prices for same period , flags was Β£400-Β£450 ,morons Β£700 , grannies Β£900 from that time period , yawn , have to be more specific on here
Sorry about your kush coma ,maybe cut back ?old forum threads would get you back up to speed mate ;-)
You swapped ? I know around 2010/11 they were selling for really high prices at the time matching banksys .. Would say this piece is the one that bought him the most attention/ success And he was one of the artists at the time expected to be high profile in the future along with spqr and eelus that have kind of dropped off I have had 4 versions of this and i have never heard of any of them selling for more than Β£1500 and that one was a 1 off on glass. Same as above i regret selling mine. I had a red and blue canvas but sold both for around Β£700 each Β the last white on paper i know sold for $800 not saying that 1 here and there have not sold for more but i have never seen it. I know a triptych on wood sold for Β£1100 recently but matching Banksys prices?? I must of been in some kind of Kush coma when that happened mate Toxic Mary and monkey queen were selling for the same if you check prices for same period , flags was Β£400-Β£450 ,morons Β£700 , grannies Β£900 from that time period , yawn , have to be more specific on here Sorry about your kush coma ,maybe cut back ?old forum threads would get you back up to speed mate ;-) |
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also you gota give the guy a dip of your bowler even if his art is not for you as how many other artists take the time to post and share video,s of the process with us ungrateful souls 
