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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by Red Propeller on Jul 21, 2007 14:26:39 GMT 1,
'Minotaur Woman Going To Kick Your Right Wing Arse' is going up on Red Propeller at 6pm Sunday (Tomorrow) at ยฃ795.00 .
Due to the fact that as yet we have no mechanism to automatically remove an item from the Red Propeller site once it is sold we have to do it manually.
I know, primitive isn't it.
This means just recently particularly since Guy Denning came on board - when a new piece is released loads of people hit the button at the same time to buy it - to be totally fair we look at the time the first purchase went through and that person gets it and everyone else has to be disappointed and refunded. Which is crap -SORRY!
We are desperately trying to sort this situation out but in the meantime-
Everyone who tries to buy Guy's new piece on Sunday (tomorrow) will be offered the option to buy an exclusive Giclee print of the piece if they are unsuccessful. The edition will only be the size of the number of people who tried to buy the original and who have to be refunded on paypal because they didnt get it.
The runners up wil be able to have an exclusive option to use ยฃ195.00 of the moneys they have committed to buying one of these very limited and by the very nature of the offer instantly sold out prints.
Everyone will be informed of the outcome and the edition size and offered the choice or a full refund.
I hope this makes sense to everyone!
'Minotaur Woman Going To Kick Your Right Wing Arse' is going up at 6om Sunday (Tomorrow) at ยฃ795.00 and the signed limited edition prints will be ยฃ195.00.
'Minotaur Woman Going To Kick Your Right Wing Arse' is going up on Red Propeller at 6pm Sunday (Tomorrow) at ยฃ795.00 .
Due to the fact that as yet we have no mechanism to automatically remove an item from the Red Propeller site once it is sold we have to do it manually.
I know, primitive isn't it.
This means just recently particularly since Guy Denning came on board - when a new piece is released loads of people hit the button at the same time to buy it - to be totally fair we look at the time the first purchase went through and that person gets it and everyone else has to be disappointed and refunded. Which is crap -SORRY!
We are desperately trying to sort this situation out but in the meantime-
Everyone who tries to buy Guy's new piece on Sunday (tomorrow) will be offered the option to buy an exclusive Giclee print of the piece if they are unsuccessful. The edition will only be the size of the number of people who tried to buy the original and who have to be refunded on paypal because they didnt get it.
The runners up wil be able to have an exclusive option to use ยฃ195.00 of the moneys they have committed to buying one of these very limited and by the very nature of the offer instantly sold out prints.
Everyone will be informed of the outcome and the edition size and offered the choice or a full refund.
I hope this makes sense to everyone!
'Minotaur Woman Going To Kick Your Right Wing Arse' is going up at 6om Sunday (Tomorrow) at ยฃ795.00 and the signed limited edition prints will be ยฃ195.00.
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funster
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by funster on Jul 21, 2007 14:48:36 GMT 1, What if you can't afford ยฃ795 but could afford ยฃ195? 22nd of the month is still 8 days from pay day!! p) Nice idea though and overly honest about your tech systems (POW take note!!) 
What if you can't afford ยฃ795 but could afford ยฃ195? 22nd of the month is still 8 days from pay day!! p) Nice idea though and overly honest about your tech systems (POW take note!!) |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by a4mnt on Jul 21, 2007 14:52:13 GMT 1, Any chance you can let us know what the edition size is of the print, once you've had the hits for the original?
Any chance you can let us know what the edition size is of the print, once you've had the hits for the original? |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by arcam on Jul 21, 2007 15:10:19 GMT 1, Any prints planned for 'Days of our lives'?
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Red Propeller
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by Red Propeller on Jul 21, 2007 15:10:44 GMT 1, Point taken - any ideas on how to get around that are welcome - not everyone who trys to buy the original will want the print so whatever isnt taken up could be offered i guess.
The edition size of the print will only be as many as there are disappointed customers you see - its to make up.
Point taken - any ideas on how to get around that are welcome - not everyone who trys to buy the original will want the print so whatever isnt taken up could be offered i guess.
The edition size of the print will only be as many as there are disappointed customers you see - its to make up.
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by brainthedog on Jul 21, 2007 15:48:15 GMT 1, you could put it up on ebay as a buy it now
you could put it up on ebay as a buy it now
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romanywg
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by romanywg on Jul 21, 2007 16:46:36 GMT 1, It's going to be melt down time, I can see it now. I think POW do it best and just put them up any old time and don't let anyone know. Then the first one that happens to log in at the exact moment or near enough, gets lucky.
It's going to be melt down time, I can see it now. I think POW do it best and just put them up any old time and don't let anyone know. Then the first one that happens to log in at the exact moment or near enough, gets lucky.
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by a4mnt on Jul 21, 2007 16:49:04 GMT 1, Count me out. I've spent enough on Guy this month.
Count me out. I've spent enough on Guy this month. |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by bored with screen names on Jul 21, 2007 20:01:37 GMT 1, I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but exactly what time is 6om?
EDIT: Nevermind, had missed the note at the top that specifies 6 PM
I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but exactly what time is 6om? EDIT: Nevermind, had missed the note at the top that specifies 6 PM |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by Friendly Ghost on Jul 21, 2007 20:20:33 GMT 1, Don't know if people have already posted about it, but David Simon Gallery also seems to have several Guy Denning originals, including two new limited edition linocut prints.
www.davidsimongallery.com/Artists/Denning.htm
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by mcnuts on Jul 21, 2007 21:04:47 GMT 1, the more that i look at it, the more i like it in a car crash kind of way
the more that i look at it, the more i like it in a car crash kind of way |
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stuey09
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by stuey09 on Jul 21, 2007 21:08:38 GMT 1, What, as in something to avoid ?
What, as in something to avoid ?
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by scoobywilldoo on Jul 21, 2007 21:16:44 GMT 1, The oil painting on canvas "Thus repulse" has been sold but the option to purchase it is still up on the web site!!!!!
The oil painting on canvas "Thus repulse" has been sold but the option to purchase it is still up on the web site!!!!!
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by mcnuts on Jul 21, 2007 21:20:26 GMT 1, The oil painting on canvas "Thus repulse" has been sold but the option to purchase it is still up on the web site!!!!!
ahh so you can still buy the "dream" of purchasing it
The oil painting on canvas "Thus repulse" has been sold but the option to purchase it is still up on the web site!!!!! ahh so you can still buy the "dream" of purchasing it |
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stuey09
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by stuey09 on Jul 21, 2007 21:31:03 GMT 1, ;D Beautifully put Mcnuts.
It's not one for me. Just plain and simply don't like it enough to put it on my walls.
;D Beautifully put Mcnuts.
It's not one for me. Just plain and simply don't like it enough to put it on my walls.
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romanywg
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by romanywg on Jul 21, 2007 21:40:23 GMT 1, Just sooooooooooooooo small too! One site says 40cm x 30cm and the other 15cm x 20cm!
Just sooooooooooooooo small too! One site says 40cm x 30cm and the other 15cm x 20cm!
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by a4mnt on Jul 22, 2007 0:51:47 GMT 1, I sure some art ponce could explain it better than me I'm not up on the twaddle.
Finally someone is talking a language I understand. McNuts i'm sorry to say i'm gonna have to +1 you for making me laugh and not using the words juxtaposition and miasma.
Now i'm truly sorry i missed you at Found
I sure some art ponce could explain it better than me I'm not up on the twaddle. Finally someone is talking a language I understand. McNuts i'm sorry to say i'm gonna have to +1 you for making me laugh and not using the words juxtaposition and miasma. Now i'm truly sorry i missed you at Found |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 22, 2007 0:57:47 GMT 1, the more that i look at it, the more i like it in a car crash kind of way
yikes
"micallef recommends" hype aside this looks like bloody diarrhea
the more that i look at it, the more i like it in a car crash kind of way yikes "micallef recommends" hype aside this looks like bloody diarrhea |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by alderevans2007 on Jul 22, 2007 1:07:36 GMT 1, I really like the piece Mcnuts.
Everything Guy does means something to him. I bet there is alot of thought behind this piece. Anyone who ownes a guy denning original should be chuffed to bits because I think he is going far.
You have a real piece of the artist there that will never be replicated. nice one!
I really like the piece Mcnuts.
Everything Guy does means something to him. I bet there is alot of thought behind this piece. Anyone who ownes a guy denning original should be chuffed to bits because I think he is going far.
You have a real piece of the artist there that will never be replicated. nice one!
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by alderevans2007 on Jul 22, 2007 1:11:16 GMT 1, Can anyone else see a cats head in that painting? Or is it obvious? Its on the left hand side, and it frightened the crap out of me! ;D
Can anyone else see a cats head in that painting? Or is it obvious? Its on the left hand side, and it frightened the crap out of me! ;D
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by a4mnt on Jul 22, 2007 1:31:58 GMT 1, Thus Repulse was one of the first pieces I was drawn to.....unfortunately though there were four other pieces i was drawn to more, so bought those. Now though, I can see the (whats the name of that thing where you type in labels) label typee thing, same as I have on PS, and like it even more.
Its not bloody diarrhea or whatever. If it appeals to you, it probably will do straight away, but no art is going to be everyones choice is it.
You know what they say, if you haven't got something good to say, then say nothing. All sorts of artists read these forums and it must be a tiny bit soul destroying reading criticism.....fair enough, you make something that remains in the public domain, you expect it, but still, i've been in an industry where you are judged quite harshly on your beloved creations (probably a lot of us have) and it can be quite saddening.
Oh well, been out drinking wine again and said my piece.......
;D
Thus Repulse was one of the first pieces I was drawn to.....unfortunately though there were four other pieces i was drawn to more, so bought those. Now though, I can see the (whats the name of that thing where you type in labels) label typee thing, same as I have on PS, and like it even more.
Its not bloody diarrhea or whatever. If it appeals to you, it probably will do straight away, but no art is going to be everyones choice is it.
You know what they say, if you haven't got something good to say, then say nothing. All sorts of artists read these forums and it must be a tiny bit soul destroying reading criticism.....fair enough, you make something that remains in the public domain, you expect it, but still, i've been in an industry where you are judged quite harshly on your beloved creations (probably a lot of us have) and it can be quite saddening.
Oh well, been out drinking wine again and said my piece.......
;D
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by arcam on Jul 22, 2007 1:51:07 GMT 1, You know what they say, if you haven't got something good to say, then say nothing.
Well said.
You know what they say, if you haven't got something good to say, then say nothing. Well said. |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 22, 2007 2:21:44 GMT 1, art is subjective - and yes it looks like bloody diarrhea to me. Im head creative for an agency here in the states and the best feedback Ive received over the years has been of the criticism variety. Hes got some nice pieces but this is not one of them. A friend of mine passed along pdfs of his work for sale about 2 months ago - dirt cheap and I still passed. I thought it was decent but.... Most people in this scene seem to be of the herd mentality - buying/praising names or hype vs individual works of art. Just something to think about - would you give a s*hit about this if it wasnt for the "Micallef recommends"? - sorry for the harshness but I've been hanging out with a bunch of frenchies...
art is subjective - and yes it looks like bloody diarrhea to me. Im head creative for an agency here in the states and the best feedback Ive received over the years has been of the criticism variety. Hes got some nice pieces but this is not one of them. A friend of mine passed along pdfs of his work for sale about 2 months ago - dirt cheap and I still passed. I thought it was decent but.... Most people in this scene seem to be of the herd mentality - buying/praising names or hype vs individual works of art. Just something to think about - would you give a s*hit about this if it wasnt for the "Micallef recommends"? - sorry for the harshness but I've been hanging out with a bunch of frenchies...
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by alderevans2007 on Jul 22, 2007 2:53:21 GMT 1, I inquired about buying Guys work months ago, before Micallef recommended him, so your point does not apply to me.
It doesn't make sense to say that we are all crazy about him just because of Micallef's recommendation. For Micallef to recommend him in the first place means he has some talent. If he is good enough for Micallef, then obviously, lots more people are going to like his work also. I agree that if Micallef recommended something crap, then there would be a lot of false hype and buying. But Micallef wouldn't do that, would he? So therefore, you do not have much of a point.
I also spoke, at length to the owner of one of the galleries that sells Guy's work. She has lectured on fine art for 18 years and told me that she only signs artists that she feels produce very strong work with the potential for great future success. Obviously, everyone has their own opinion, but at the end of the day, if somebody like this woman and Micallef see something in an artist, then there are going to plenty of people who are also going to love his work.
I think it is pretty foolish to think that Guys work is restricted to this forum buying selling hype nonsense.
I inquired about buying Guys work months ago, before Micallef recommended him, so your point does not apply to me.
It doesn't make sense to say that we are all crazy about him just because of Micallef's recommendation. For Micallef to recommend him in the first place means he has some talent. If he is good enough for Micallef, then obviously, lots more people are going to like his work also. I agree that if Micallef recommended something crap, then there would be a lot of false hype and buying. But Micallef wouldn't do that, would he? So therefore, you do not have much of a point.
I also spoke, at length to the owner of one of the galleries that sells Guy's work. She has lectured on fine art for 18 years and told me that she only signs artists that she feels produce very strong work with the potential for great future success. Obviously, everyone has their own opinion, but at the end of the day, if somebody like this woman and Micallef see something in an artist, then there are going to plenty of people who are also going to love his work.
I think it is pretty foolish to think that Guys work is restricted to this forum buying selling hype nonsense.
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by a4mnt on Jul 22, 2007 3:03:08 GMT 1, bobbymeachamjr
- honestly? the micallef comment didn't man f**k all really. its nice for Guy, but means nothing to me. there were prints and originals for sale 10 days ago when i made my purchases and if i was that drawn by the micallef comment i would have bought them all. But I didn't. I purely bought the pieces that said something to me, albeit within my price range. The main factor for me was buying originals in a style that I appreciated. I can't imagine that chance will happen very often. Owning a piece that no-one else has any kind of copy of is a new feeling for me and I'm glad to have experienced that this once. I can't afford an original banksy/micallef/neate etc, but I'll sure as hell get as much joy out of Guy's work, even more so that he's taken the time to email back about certain points.
The herd mentality is an understandable point but also an easy target. This forum is a meeting point for likeminded people to discuss new and established artists. Agreed there was some frenzied posting and I hold my hands up totally for doing that, I was enjoying help create a buzz around an artist, that was almost as much fun as owning an original, but my heart is in the right place as I hope all the hype created lasts for Guy and his work.
And before any money aspects are involved, owning those originals means you'd never know what they are worth, as there are never identical copies sold to guage the worth. They are only worth what they mean to the owner. You could watch a similar canvas by the same artist sell for a fortune then watch yours not sell as no-one likes it, so the value is meaningless except in its enjoyment.
Also agreed the best feedback can be from criticism, but as you are in an industry that is involved in that sphere, you yourself would probably know that criticism is best absorbed and put to good use when it comes from sources you respect and not total strangers, which takes me back to my original comment. As long as you realise it was not meant personally, then its all good.
Give the Frenchies hell by the way
bobbymeachamjr - honestly? the micallef comment didn't man f**k all really. its nice for Guy, but means nothing to me. there were prints and originals for sale 10 days ago when i made my purchases and if i was that drawn by the micallef comment i would have bought them all. But I didn't. I purely bought the pieces that said something to me, albeit within my price range. The main factor for me was buying originals in a style that I appreciated. I can't imagine that chance will happen very often. Owning a piece that no-one else has any kind of copy of is a new feeling for me and I'm glad to have experienced that this once. I can't afford an original banksy/micallef/neate etc, but I'll sure as hell get as much joy out of Guy's work, even more so that he's taken the time to email back about certain points. The herd mentality is an understandable point but also an easy target. This forum is a meeting point for likeminded people to discuss new and established artists. Agreed there was some frenzied posting and I hold my hands up totally for doing that, I was enjoying help create a buzz around an artist, that was almost as much fun as owning an original, but my heart is in the right place as I hope all the hype created lasts for Guy and his work. And before any money aspects are involved, owning those originals means you'd never know what they are worth, as there are never identical copies sold to guage the worth. They are only worth what they mean to the owner. You could watch a similar canvas by the same artist sell for a fortune then watch yours not sell as no-one likes it, so the value is meaningless except in its enjoyment. Also agreed the best feedback can be from criticism, but as you are in an industry that is involved in that sphere, you yourself would probably know that criticism is best absorbed and put to good use when it comes from sources you respect and not total strangers, which takes me back to my original comment. As long as you realise it was not meant personally, then its all good. Give the Frenchies hell by the way |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by numusic on Jul 22, 2007 6:32:50 GMT 1, art is subjective - and yes it looks like bloody diarrhea to me. Im head creative for an agency here in the states and the best feedback Ive received over the years has been of the criticism variety. Hes got some nice pieces but this is not one of them. A friend of mine passed along pdfs of his work for sale about 2 months ago - dirt cheap and I still passed. I thought it was decent but.... Most people in this scene seem to be of the herd mentality - buying/praising names or hype vs individual works of art. Just something to think about - would you give a s*hit about this if it wasnt for the "Micallef recommends"? - sorry for the harshness but I've been hanging out with a bunch of frenchies...
Ad agency ? kill yourself now
art is subjective - and yes it looks like bloody diarrhea to me. Im head creative for an agency here in the states and the best feedback Ive received over the years has been of the criticism variety. Hes got some nice pieces but this is not one of them. A friend of mine passed along pdfs of his work for sale about 2 months ago - dirt cheap and I still passed. I thought it was decent but.... Most people in this scene seem to be of the herd mentality - buying/praising names or hype vs individual works of art. Just something to think about - would you give a s*hit about this if it wasnt for the "Micallef recommends"? - sorry for the harshness but I've been hanging out with a bunch of frenchies... Ad agency ? kill yourself now |
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 22, 2007 7:05:18 GMT 1, not sure if youre serious or not...
but i truly hope you REALLY dont think that this "scene" is not corporate. Its business as usual.
not sure if youre serious or not...
but i truly hope you REALLY dont think that this "scene" is not corporate. Its business as usual.
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NEW GUY DENNING ORIGINAL@RED PROPELLER, by bobbymeachamjr on Jul 22, 2007 7:23:05 GMT 1, I inquired about buying Guys work months ago, before Micallef recommended him, so your point does not apply to me. It doesn't make sense to say that we are all crazy about him just because of Micallef's recommendation. For Micallef to recommend him in the first place means he has some talent. If he is good enough for Micallef, then obviously, lots more people are going to like his work also. I agree that if Micallef recommended something crap, then there would be a lot of false hype and buying. But Micallef wouldn't do that, would he? So therefore, you do not have much of a point. I also spoke, at length to the owner of one of the galleries that sells Guy's work. She has lectured on fine art for 18 years and told me that she only signs artists that she feels produce very strong work with the potential for great future success. Obviously, everyone has their own opinion, but at the end of the day, if somebody like this woman and Micallef see something in an artist, then there are going to plenty of people who are also going to love his work. I think it is pretty foolish to think that Guys work is restricted to this forum buying selling hype nonsense.
I give an artist like Guy the utmost respect. Hes earned it. Theres just sooo many great artists who dont get the recognition. What did they used to say in Art history class? - the Art world is controlled by the art critic. Well in this case its controlled by Laz and the POW crew. It would be foolish to think that the Micallef reference is not the reason for practical anonymity to threads such as this. You spent 3/4 of your post saying "If he is good enough for Micallef...." and how a gallery.... Basically you contradict yourself by allowing others to influence/validate your perception of "what is good" rather than making your own independent judgements. I reiterate, I think Guy is a very talented artist and hes paid his dues. My point is - and good for Guy! - that this overnight popularity is due to forces outside of his art. His art has always been there.
I inquired about buying Guys work months ago, before Micallef recommended him, so your point does not apply to me. It doesn't make sense to say that we are all crazy about him just because of Micallef's recommendation. For Micallef to recommend him in the first place means he has some talent. If he is good enough for Micallef, then obviously, lots more people are going to like his work also. I agree that if Micallef recommended something crap, then there would be a lot of false hype and buying. But Micallef wouldn't do that, would he? So therefore, you do not have much of a point. I also spoke, at length to the owner of one of the galleries that sells Guy's work. She has lectured on fine art for 18 years and told me that she only signs artists that she feels produce very strong work with the potential for great future success. Obviously, everyone has their own opinion, but at the end of the day, if somebody like this woman and Micallef see something in an artist, then there are going to plenty of people who are also going to love his work. I think it is pretty foolish to think that Guys work is restricted to this forum buying selling hype nonsense. I give an artist like Guy the utmost respect. Hes earned it. Theres just sooo many great artists who dont get the recognition. What did they used to say in Art history class? - the Art world is controlled by the art critic. Well in this case its controlled by Laz and the POW crew. It would be foolish to think that the Micallef reference is not the reason for practical anonymity to threads such as this. You spent 3/4 of your post saying "If he is good enough for Micallef...." and how a gallery.... Basically you contradict yourself by allowing others to influence/validate your perception of "what is good" rather than making your own independent judgements. I reiterate, I think Guy is a very talented artist and hes paid his dues. My point is - and good for Guy! - that this overnight popularity is due to forces outside of his art. His art has always been there. |
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