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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 8, 2010 21:41:33 GMT 1, if thats the case then every person that sells prints is a business venture.
pow is a business. banksy is a business. nick walker is a business. eelus is a business. eine is a business. all artists are businesses.
what is your point
if thats the case then every person that sells prints is a business venture.
pow is a business. banksy is a business. nick walker is a business. eelus is a business. eine is a business. all artists are businesses.
what is your point
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 8, 2010 23:31:32 GMT 1, if thats the case then every person that sells prints is a business venture. pow is a business. banksy is a business. nick walker is a business. eelus is a business. eine is a business. all artists are businesses. what is your point
Art is about the Art , the business is secondary. I believe that behind this Jboyprints venture the business (the profit) is the primary concern.
What i guess i need to know is "what is your point?"
You did post the political reasoning and your thoughts behind this print earlier in the thread , but that seems to have been removed now.
if thats the case then every person that sells prints is a business venture. pow is a business. banksy is a business. nick walker is a business. eelus is a business. eine is a business. all artists are businesses. what is your point Art is about the Art , the business is secondary. I believe that behind this Jboyprints venture the business (the profit) is the primary concern. What i guess i need to know is "what is your point?" You did post the political reasoning and your thoughts behind this print earlier in the thread , but that seems to have been removed now. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 8, 2010 23:50:11 GMT 1, if you read back miles on this thread you will see the reasons for doing prints. please do so.
Ive read the entire thread thankyou.
To summarise what you have written: you wanted some of your art turned into prints for you and your family/friends. You thought it was too expensive to pay just to get some done for yourself and your family/friends. So, you realised you could get more printed than you needed, then sell the excess prints off to pay for the ones you and your family/friends keep, and make a tidy little profit at the same time .
What i was asking about , and what you should be primarily interested in as the artist , is the reason behind the prints. That is what i want to know about. The driving force, the thought process, the blood,sweat and tears.
Or is it just 'pictures' for the wall. Mere decoration?
if you read back miles on this thread you will see the reasons for doing prints. please do so. Ive read the entire thread thankyou. To summarise what you have written: you wanted some of your art turned into prints for you and your family/friends. You thought it was too expensive to pay just to get some done for yourself and your family/friends. So, you realised you could get more printed than you needed, then sell the excess prints off to pay for the ones you and your family/friends keep, and make a tidy little profit at the same time . What i was asking about , and what you should be primarily interested in as the artist , is the reason behind the prints. That is what i want to know about. The driving force, the thought process, the blood,sweat and tears. Or is it just 'pictures' for the wall. Mere decoration? |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 8, 2010 23:57:41 GMT 1, i have been a designer for years and just have a sketch book of fun stuff. Its just showing what many designers have been thinking for years - and that is that many 'ideas' which people think are incredible and 'mind blowing' have all been done before. Its just the machine and money behind images that people buy into.
thats all. theres no major meaning. if you want a major meaning then go to the tate or something
i have been a designer for years and just have a sketch book of fun stuff. Its just showing what many designers have been thinking for years - and that is that many 'ideas' which people think are incredible and 'mind blowing' have all been done before. Its just the machine and money behind images that people buy into.
thats all. theres no major meaning. if you want a major meaning then go to the tate or something
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 0:12:36 GMT 1, i have been a designer for years and just have a sketch book of fun stuff. Its just showing what many designers have been thinking for years - and that is that many 'ideas' which people think are incredible and 'mind blowing' have all been done before. Its just the machine and money behind images that people buy into. thats all. theres no major meaning. if you want a major meaning then go to the tate or something
OK ! we got there in the end . So this isnt about anything more than empty images, the 'venture' being to expose the shallowness and recent failure in critical appraisal on part of the 'investing/consuming' masses when it comes to throwing their money at 'art' .
Anyone , by buying into your art , proves your theory , so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Quite Brilliant. I suspected that was the case all along and is why if you read my posts i made as 'aprilla' on this thread you will see i was praising the exercise whilst also trying to maintain a tangible sense of sarcasm.
So,with that said, i look forward to seeing future developments.
i have been a designer for years and just have a sketch book of fun stuff. Its just showing what many designers have been thinking for years - and that is that many 'ideas' which people think are incredible and 'mind blowing' have all been done before. Its just the machine and money behind images that people buy into. thats all. theres no major meaning. if you want a major meaning then go to the tate or something OK ! we got there in the end . So this isnt about anything more than empty images, the 'venture' being to expose the shallowness and recent failure in critical appraisal on part of the 'investing/consuming' masses when it comes to throwing their money at 'art' . Anyone , by buying into your art , proves your theory , so it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Quite Brilliant. I suspected that was the case all along and is why if you read my posts i made as 'aprilla' on this thread you will see i was praising the exercise whilst also trying to maintain a tangible sense of sarcasm. So,with that said, i look forward to seeing future developments. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 0:24:25 GMT 1, what i am interested in is mainly producing the same thread of an idea that say banksy might. Do not jump on this saying 'JBAY THINKS HE'S BANKSY LOLOLOL'. Thats not the point. My point is if you create an image with a similar tone, concept base, wit and wall friendlyness - will people respond to that.
this has proved that yes, the majority do care about the image and will buy something regardless of the name and 'worth'. but i cant help feel that the people that are the ones shooting stuff down are the ones that dont really give a monkeys about the image and are just looking at who has done it and why it costs Β£40 and if it will be a good investment.
Its the classic PM the other week from someone that bought the print saying 'if banksy had done this, it would have been like fly to a pile of s**t'. I took that as a compliment.
I also had an interesting email this morning from a nice guy saying that he was looking for a playgirl and could not find one on the secondary market. That just really sums things up for me, people who actually want the image don't mind paying more for something off ebay and dont really care of its worth - but enjoy the image.
i salute that guy. but its still sold out.
another comment on one of these threads was about me playing off of a 'secret forum personality'. That might play some part in people buying the print, but thats not intentional.
I am logging all of these comments by the way as its all part of seeing how people really react. I will then do a website blog about it all, its not for anything other than an interest in the perceptions of image. (the print image as well as the artist image)
Im sure that many of the designers on here will agree to looking at a banksy image sometimes and thinking 'i thought of that ages ago' - as generally if your own the same mindset you will come up with the same idea.
what i am interested in is mainly producing the same thread of an idea that say banksy might. Do not jump on this saying 'JBAY THINKS HE'S BANKSY LOLOLOL'. Thats not the point. My point is if you create an image with a similar tone, concept base, wit and wall friendlyness - will people respond to that.
this has proved that yes, the majority do care about the image and will buy something regardless of the name and 'worth'. but i cant help feel that the people that are the ones shooting stuff down are the ones that dont really give a monkeys about the image and are just looking at who has done it and why it costs Β£40 and if it will be a good investment.
Its the classic PM the other week from someone that bought the print saying 'if banksy had done this, it would have been like fly to a pile of s**t'. I took that as a compliment.
I also had an interesting email this morning from a nice guy saying that he was looking for a playgirl and could not find one on the secondary market. That just really sums things up for me, people who actually want the image don't mind paying more for something off ebay and dont really care of its worth - but enjoy the image.
i salute that guy. but its still sold out.
another comment on one of these threads was about me playing off of a 'secret forum personality'. That might play some part in people buying the print, but thats not intentional.
I am logging all of these comments by the way as its all part of seeing how people really react. I will then do a website blog about it all, its not for anything other than an interest in the perceptions of image. (the print image as well as the artist image)
Im sure that many of the designers on here will agree to looking at a banksy image sometimes and thinking 'i thought of that ages ago' - as generally if your own the same mindset you will come up with the same idea.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 0:38:08 GMT 1, what i am interested in is mainly producing the same thread of an idea that say banksy might. Do not jump on this saying 'JBAY THINKS HE'S BANKSY LOLOLOL'. Thats not the point. My point is if you create an image with a similar tone, concept base, wit and wall friendlyness - will people respond to that. this has proved that yes, the majority do care about the image and will be regardless of the name and 'worth'. but i cant help feel that the people that are the ones shooting stuff down are the ones that dont really give a monkeys about the image and are just looking at who has done it and why it costs Β£40 and if it will be a good investment. Its the classic PM the other week from someone that bought the print saying 'if banksy had done this, it would have been like fly to a pile of s**t'. I took that as a compliment. I also had an interesting email this morning from a nice guy saying that he was looking for a playgirl and could not find one on the secondary market. That just really sums things up for me, people who actually want the image don't mind paying more for something off ebay and dont really care of its worth - but enjoy the image. i salute that guy. but its still sold out. Im sure that many of the designers on here will agree to looking at a banksy image sometimes and thinking 'i thought of that ages ago' - as generally if your own the same mindset you will come up with the same idea.
Quality post. Opens up a whole new debate that hopefully can move on past the simplistic bashing of the image or person behind it.
My last word is 'designers' aint nothing special in the ' i thought of that ages ago' camp. I am sure we have all stood and thought 'i thought of that' when looking at all sorts of art , as well as the classic 'i could've done that!' . For me , what put Banksy way up above any level of derision for portraying ideas that many may have 'thought of before' is the fact that he does it , does it so well, does it on a scale few of us could imagine let along actualise, and he captures the zeitgeist of the moment unlike any other in my lifetime.
what i am interested in is mainly producing the same thread of an idea that say banksy might. Do not jump on this saying 'JBAY THINKS HE'S BANKSY LOLOLOL'. Thats not the point. My point is if you create an image with a similar tone, concept base, wit and wall friendlyness - will people respond to that. this has proved that yes, the majority do care about the image and will be regardless of the name and 'worth'. but i cant help feel that the people that are the ones shooting stuff down are the ones that dont really give a monkeys about the image and are just looking at who has done it and why it costs Β£40 and if it will be a good investment. Its the classic PM the other week from someone that bought the print saying 'if banksy had done this, it would have been like fly to a pile of s**t'. I took that as a compliment. I also had an interesting email this morning from a nice guy saying that he was looking for a playgirl and could not find one on the secondary market. That just really sums things up for me, people who actually want the image don't mind paying more for something off ebay and dont really care of its worth - but enjoy the image. i salute that guy. but its still sold out. Im sure that many of the designers on here will agree to looking at a banksy image sometimes and thinking 'i thought of that ages ago' - as generally if your own the same mindset you will come up with the same idea. Quality post. Opens up a whole new debate that hopefully can move on past the simplistic bashing of the image or person behind it. My last word is 'designers' aint nothing special in the ' i thought of that ages ago' camp. I am sure we have all stood and thought 'i thought of that' when looking at all sorts of art , as well as the classic 'i could've done that!' . For me , what put Banksy way up above any level of derision for portraying ideas that many may have 'thought of before' is the fact that he does it , does it so well, does it on a scale few of us could imagine let along actualise, and he captures the zeitgeist of the moment unlike any other in my lifetime. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 0:42:12 GMT 1, but with banksy, he was not always secret. he only became secret when he realised it added to the brand he was creating. Banksy is a very smart guy, in terms of business and art sense.
Comments he makes and what he does are all rehearsed and planned to perceive the image of the brand
He is not the most artistic person (his graff is naff) but generally his ideas are good and well executed. Ultimately its nothing more than joining two elements together to create a different meaning though, many designers are taught this at art school.
he was just right time - right place. People are not realising they are buying into a brand half the time
but with banksy, he was not always secret. he only became secret when he realised it added to the brand he was creating. Banksy is a very smart guy, in terms of business and art sense.
Comments he makes and what he does are all rehearsed and planned to perceive the image of the brand
He is not the most artistic person (his graff is naff) but generally his ideas are good and well executed. Ultimately its nothing more than joining two elements together to create a different meaning though, many designers are taught this at art school.
he was just right time - right place. People are not realising they are buying into a brand half the time
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 1:02:16 GMT 1, but with banksy, he was not always secret. he only became secret when he realised it added to the brand he was creating. Banksy is a very smart guy, in terms of business and art sense. Comments he makes and what he does are all rehearsed and planned to perceive the image of the brand He is not the most artistic person (his graff is naff) but generally his ideas are good and well executed. Ultimately its nothing more than joining to elements together to create a different meaning though, many designers are taught at art school. he was just right time - right place. People are not realising they are buying into a brand half the time
Actually Banksy has always been very carefull and scretive , its the nature of being a graffiti artist.
His Graff is 'Naff' !! you are talking shit again , just as i thought we were getting some sense out you !
you need to take another look at his 'graff' .. ive seen many many productions back in the day and despite what anyone say his stuff was pissing over everyone elses hands down. show me a picture of a 'naff' banksy piece , for everyone you find i will show you half a dozen killer pieces .
"Nothing more than joining to (sic - Two?) ideas together that designers are taught in art school "? ever heard of the sum being greater than the parts ?
And lastly he wasnt just 'right person , right time' , he has grafted his ass off to get where he is now, dedication, perseverance and hard work as well as having an impressive ability to play the media game. His stunts are peerless.
'people not realising they are buying into a brand' ? you dont seem to be willing to give people much credit ! of course people realise what they are buying into , what they are buying a part of, buying a Banksy is buying into the game with him and supporting what essentially is one of the very few things in this consumer culture actually worth supporting.
but with banksy, he was not always secret. he only became secret when he realised it added to the brand he was creating. Banksy is a very smart guy, in terms of business and art sense. Comments he makes and what he does are all rehearsed and planned to perceive the image of the brand He is not the most artistic person (his graff is naff) but generally his ideas are good and well executed. Ultimately its nothing more than joining to elements together to create a different meaning though, many designers are taught at art school. he was just right time - right place. People are not realising they are buying into a brand half the time Actually Banksy has always been very carefull and scretive , its the nature of being a graffiti artist. His Graff is 'Naff' !! you are talking shit again , just as i thought we were getting some sense out you ! you need to take another look at his 'graff' .. ive seen many many productions back in the day and despite what anyone say his stuff was pissing over everyone elses hands down. show me a picture of a 'naff' banksy piece , for everyone you find i will show you half a dozen killer pieces . "Nothing more than joining to (sic - Two?) ideas together that designers are taught in art school "? ever heard of the sum being greater than the parts ? And lastly he wasnt just 'right person , right time' , he has grafted his ass off to get where he is now, dedication, perseverance and hard work as well as having an impressive ability to play the media game. His stunts are peerless. 'people not realising they are buying into a brand' ? you dont seem to be willing to give people much credit ! of course people realise what they are buying into , what they are buying a part of, buying a Banksy is buying into the game with him and supporting what essentially is one of the very few things in this consumer culture actually worth supporting. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 1:14:02 GMT 1, he has not always been careful and secretive. only since he got famous.
alot of his early graff is very poorly executed.
no, people are buying into the investment. they are driven by the fact that for Β£500 they can have something on their wall and sit on it. Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar.
he has not always been careful and secretive. only since he got famous.
alot of his early graff is very poorly executed.
no, people are buying into the investment. they are driven by the fact that for Β£500 they can have something on their wall and sit on it. Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 1:17:28 GMT 1, you realise that when i refer to graff, im not talking his stencils.
you realise that when i refer to graff, im not talking his stencils.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by schnulli on Aug 9, 2010 1:25:09 GMT 1, Are there actually any print pics on this thread? Was curious to see if there's anything new since Yoof....not being funny, just not wanting to trawl through a veerrrryyy long thread to see the latest release
Are there actually any print pics on this thread? Was curious to see if there's anything new since Yoof....not being funny, just not wanting to trawl through a veerrrryyy long thread to see the latest release
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 1:41:05 GMT 1, he has not always been careful and secretive. only since he got famous. alot of his early graff is very poorly executed. no, people are buying into the investment. they are driven by the fact that for Β£500 they can have something on their wall and sit on it. Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar.
He has always been secretive and careful , it is the nature of being a graffiti artist. I know this is fact.
No point in just repeating your statement about what you believe to be the quality of his graffiti work. I asked you to supply evidence of poorly executed (or as you put it 'Naff') graffiti . if no evidence is forthcoming then once again it will be a blinding case of you stating your illinformed opinion as fact without any evidence to back up your claim.
Alot of people today may well be motivated purely by investment . For you to state that "Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar" only reflects poorly on you , that must be what you think because it is how you think.
he has not always been careful and secretive. only since he got famous. alot of his early graff is very poorly executed. no, people are buying into the investment. they are driven by the fact that for Β£500 they can have something on their wall and sit on it. Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar. He has always been secretive and careful , it is the nature of being a graffiti artist. I know this is fact. No point in just repeating your statement about what you believe to be the quality of his graffiti work. I asked you to supply evidence of poorly executed (or as you put it 'Naff') graffiti . if no evidence is forthcoming then once again it will be a blinding case of you stating your illinformed opinion as fact without any evidence to back up your claim. Alot of people today may well be motivated purely by investment . For you to state that "Anyone that buys a banksy and does not think that is lying, no matter how much they cover it with sugar" only reflects poorly on you , that must be what you think because it is how you think. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 1:54:20 GMT 1, you realise that when i refer to graff, im not talking his stencils.
You realise how patronising that question sounds ?
Graffiti is graffiti , normally executed freehand with aerosol paints. Stencils are stencils.
you realise that when i refer to graff, im not talking his stencils. You realise how patronising that question sounds ? Graffiti is graffiti , normally executed freehand with aerosol paints. Stencils are stencils. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 2:26:44 GMT 1, yeah but wheres the ideas in the graff. somewhere he has taken advice.
yeah but wheres the ideas in the graff. somewhere he has taken advice.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 2:27:12 GMT 1, Are there actually any print pics on this thread? Was curious to see if there's anything new since Yoof....not being funny, just not wanting to trawl through a veerrrryyy long thread to see the latest release
just check out the sections on
www.jboyprints.com
Are there actually any print pics on this thread? Was curious to see if there's anything new since Yoof....not being funny, just not wanting to trawl through a veerrrryyy long thread to see the latest release just check out the sections on www.jboyprints.com |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 2:31:28 GMT 1, yeah but wheres the ideas in the graff. somewhere he has taken advice.
LOL! are you blind or is that just an act you put on hoping to provoke a reaction !
come on back up your original statement - to remind you , you said "Banksy graff was Naff" .
yeah but wheres the ideas in the graff. somewhere he has taken advice. LOL! are you blind or is that just an act you put on hoping to provoke a reaction ! come on back up your original statement - to remind you , you said "Banksy graff was Naff" . |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 3:11:31 GMT 1, you are missing the point again.
im talking about the idea. there is to bigger jump between the graff work an the stencil work with concept for me. somewhere he has taken the advice and decision to turn things around and create a persona and brand.
banksy graff is naff. you dont have to say it twice. there is far better graff taggers out there. but they cant do ideas.
you are missing the point again.
im talking about the idea. there is to bigger jump between the graff work an the stencil work with concept for me. somewhere he has taken the advice and decision to turn things around and create a persona and brand.
banksy graff is naff. you dont have to say it twice. there is far better graff taggers out there. but they cant do ideas.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by aprilla2 on Aug 9, 2010 3:22:39 GMT 1, you are missing the point again. im talking about the idea. there is to bigger jump between the graff work an the stencil work with concept for me. somewhere he has taken the advice and decision to turn things around and create a persona and brand. banksy graff is naff. you dont have to say it twice. there is far better graff taggers out there. but they cant do ideas.
Nope , there isnt , i can see Banksy ideas as clear as day in his early work.
You can keep repeating your statement until you run out of breath for all i care, until you back up your unfounded empty meaningless opinion then your statement is as empty as it seems the rest of you is.
far better graff taggers !! Ha, have you been reading the guardian guide to street terminology. of course there are better writers, there are even better stencillers, but that isnt what we are talking about.
I got the measure of you now anyway , you make flammatory comments to provoke, then avoid actually ever backing up anything you say, your statements and arguements are void of any substance. you also have a psycholgical need to think that you have the upper hand and the last word. There is a label for those behaviour patterns.
you are missing the point again. im talking about the idea. there is to bigger jump between the graff work an the stencil work with concept for me. somewhere he has taken the advice and decision to turn things around and create a persona and brand. banksy graff is naff. you dont have to say it twice. there is far better graff taggers out there. but they cant do ideas. Nope , there isnt , i can see Banksy ideas as clear as day in his early work. You can keep repeating your statement until you run out of breath for all i care, until you back up your unfounded empty meaningless opinion then your statement is as empty as it seems the rest of you is. far better graff taggers !! Ha, have you been reading the guardian guide to street terminology. of course there are better writers, there are even better stencillers, but that isnt what we are talking about. I got the measure of you now anyway , you make flammatory comments to provoke, then avoid actually ever backing up anything you say, your statements and arguements are void of any substance. you also have a psycholgical need to think that you have the upper hand and the last word. There is a label for those behaviour patterns. |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 3:29:37 GMT 1, oh well, i thought you were wanting a conversation but without taking into consideration both sides then its pointless.
continue the benny hill banter then.
oh well, i thought you were wanting a conversation but without taking into consideration both sides then its pointless.
continue the benny hill banter then.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 3:31:06 GMT 1,
yes. its called defending yourself from cloth ears.
yes. its called defending yourself from cloth ears.
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by fingerz on Aug 9, 2010 6:47:30 GMT 1, i for one won a playgirl print off jboy and was pleased that i did,would i have bought one ? prob not as dont have the cash but if i did have the cash then yeah i prob would have after all i like the image.....i dont know if i'm missing the point here but what is wrong with a guy making a print that people like and that are going to enjoy looking at on there walls....?....surly thats better than some one having Β£3 millions of art on there walls that thay think is hideous,i'm getting slightly confused as to if people buy art for the image or the name behind it.....all in all well done jboy for getting some thing out there.... 
i for one won a playgirl print off jboy and was pleased that i did,would i have bought one ? prob not as dont have the cash but if i did have the cash then yeah i prob would have after all i like the image.....i dont know if i'm missing the point here but what is wrong with a guy making a print that people like and that are going to enjoy looking at on there walls....?....surly thats better than some one having Β£3 millions of art on there walls that thay think is hideous,i'm getting slightly confused as to if people buy art for the image or the name behind it.....all in all well done jboy for getting some thing out there.... |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by nex on Aug 9, 2010 10:14:04 GMT 1, couple of points, as there's an interesting discussion somewhere in here
Banksy had a show a fairrrrr while back entitled 'brandalism' so yes I'm pretty sure this was a facet of his work
As for Banksy's graf being naff, I'd like an example of this if possible? As free hand graf artists go B back in the 90's had great style for me, if anything, surpassed a fair bit of his later work
couple of points, as there's an interesting discussion somewhere in here
Banksy had a show a fairrrrr while back entitled 'brandalism' so yes I'm pretty sure this was a facet of his work
As for Banksy's graf being naff, I'd like an example of this if possible? As free hand graf artists go B back in the 90's had great style for me, if anything, surpassed a fair bit of his later work
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 10:32:11 GMT 1, thats fair, but im not talking about his style or the way it looks.
theres a massive leap between tagging/graff and ideas and stencils.
im interested to know at what point he realised or was led to doing more interesting stuff. If he did not do that can you see a load of people lining up for his new tag print...
people are buying into something deeper than just a nice looking squiggle
thats fair, but im not talking about his style or the way it looks.
theres a massive leap between tagging/graff and ideas and stencils.
im interested to know at what point he realised or was led to doing more interesting stuff. If he did not do that can you see a load of people lining up for his new tag print...
people are buying into something deeper than just a nice looking squiggle
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by nex on Aug 9, 2010 10:39:52 GMT 1, thats fair, but im not talking about his style or the way it looks. theres a massive leap between tagging/graff and ideas and stencils. im interested to know at what point he realised or was led to doing more interesting stuff. If he did not do that can you see a load of people lining up for his new tag print...
this 'massive leap' as you put it, I'd say was actually a simplification of the ideas he was already having, by creating stencils, speed increased and the purity of their theme was expanded
the point at which it became a money making venture (although not solely), well the introduction to London had a lot to do with that
thats fair, but im not talking about his style or the way it looks. theres a massive leap between tagging/graff and ideas and stencils. im interested to know at what point he realised or was led to doing more interesting stuff. If he did not do that can you see a load of people lining up for his new tag print... this 'massive leap' as you put it, I'd say was actually a simplification of the ideas he was already having, by creating stencils, speed increased and the purity of their theme was expanded the point at which it became a money making venture (although not solely), well the introduction to London had a lot to do with that |
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 10:41:59 GMT 1, possibly, but i think somewhere he had made a decision to go in that direction as he saw more opportunity
possibly, but i think somewhere he had made a decision to go in that direction as he saw more opportunity
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by nex on Aug 9, 2010 10:46:33 GMT 1, he's a bright lad more than likely he saw an opportunity and ran with it, as time passed the introduction of others to the 'team' would have gained weight to these and moved them on
he's a bright lad more than likely he saw an opportunity and ran with it, as time passed the introduction of others to the 'team' would have gained weight to these and moved them on
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by bullet on Aug 9, 2010 10:48:38 GMT 1, i wonder if he will go back to the graff days or that is outside of his brand 'look' now
i wonder if he will go back to the graff days or that is outside of his brand 'look' now
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by nex on Aug 9, 2010 10:58:58 GMT 1, in the long term, or possibly a commissioned piece never to be shown publicly (!)
personally I'd like to see pieces not related to a movie release in the vicinity or any obvious commerical endeavour other than of course brand reinforcement
in the long term, or possibly a commissioned piece never to be shown publicly (!)
personally I'd like to see pieces not related to a movie release in the vicinity or any obvious commerical endeavour other than of course brand reinforcement
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JBOY π¬π§ New Print Release β’ JBoy Art For Sale, by walshy on Aug 9, 2010 11:07:37 GMT 1, personally I'd like to see pieces not related to a movie release in the vicinity or any obvious commerical endeavour other than of course brand reinforcement
Thats a bit harsh no ? How about all the work before the film ?
all the canal stuff, line flower man, gangster kid, cock painter.... the list goes on
personally I'd like to see pieces not related to a movie release in the vicinity or any obvious commerical endeavour other than of course brand reinforcement Thats a bit harsh no ? How about all the work before the film ? all the canal stuff, line flower man, gangster kid, cock painter.... the list goes on |
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