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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by wizzy on Dec 17, 2010 0:17:21 GMT 1, not sure that's true - when it went on sale I got a print and then read on the board that someone else had the same print number straight after. I ended up with the white and the other guy (I assume) got a grey. Mines framed and on the wall Its a bit of both I remember I missed the one on Friday (second day) by a couple of minutes. Was F5'ing, but had to go out the door to stand in the middle of the street waving my arms around like i just dont care! Crazy.
Crazy indeed Martin.
not sure that's true - when it went on sale I got a print and then read on the board that someone else had the same print number straight after. I ended up with the white and the other guy (I assume) got a grey. Mines framed and on the wall Its a bit of both I remember I missed the one on Friday (second day) by a couple of minutes. Was F5'ing, but had to go out the door to stand in the middle of the street waving my arms around like i just dont care! Crazy. Crazy indeed Martin.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by njr911 on Dec 17, 2010 10:02:26 GMT 1, not sure that's true - when it went on sale I got a print and then read on the board that someone else had the same print number straight after. I ended up with the white and the other guy (I assume) got a grey. Mines framed and on the wall Its a bit of both "Our database was overwhelmed with people adding to basket at exactly the same time & a small number of prints were allocated twice. The small number of prints that became available on Friday were related to something else & clearly those prints should never have been made available." I remember I missed the one on Friday (second day) by a couple of minutes. Was F5'ing, but had to go out the door. Came back - and they was sold - haha. Crazy.
Nightmare! I missed colour trolleys as I was getting a slice of someones birthday cake at work !
Got an unsigned which I love but still gutted !
not sure that's true - when it went on sale I got a print and then read on the board that someone else had the same print number straight after. I ended up with the white and the other guy (I assume) got a grey. Mines framed and on the wall Its a bit of both "Our database was overwhelmed with people adding to basket at exactly the same time & a small number of prints were allocated twice. The small number of prints that became available on Friday were related to something else & clearly those prints should never have been made available." I remember I missed the one on Friday (second day) by a couple of minutes. Was F5'ing, but had to go out the door. Came back - and they was sold - haha. Crazy. Nightmare! I missed colour trolleys as I was getting a slice of someones birthday cake at work ! Got an unsigned which I love but still gutted !
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by hlarmy on Dec 17, 2010 10:12:40 GMT 1, Nightmare! I missed colour trolleys as I was getting a MASSIVE slice of someones birthday cake at work !!
Nightmare! I missed colour trolleys as I was getting a MASSIVE slice of someones birthday cake at work !!
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by ABC on Dec 17, 2010 10:24:43 GMT 1, How many companies have forum members telling them how to run their business? We should be grateful we still get a chance, slim to non existent i agree but still a chance of buying prints. He could quite easily push his prints out at 1-2k, that would knock a few buyers out of the game but still wouldn't stop flipping.
How many companies have forum members telling them how to run their business? We should be grateful we still get a chance, slim to non existent i agree but still a chance of buying prints. He could quite easily push his prints out at 1-2k, that would knock a few buyers out of the game but still wouldn't stop flipping.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by hlarmy on Dec 17, 2010 10:26:39 GMT 1, How many companies have forum members telling them how to run their business? We should be grateful we still get a chance, slim to non existent i agree but still a chance of buying prints. He could quite easily push his prints out at 1-2k, that would knock a few buyers out of the game but still wouldn't stop flipping.
Well said that man...
How many companies have forum members telling them how to run their business? We should be grateful we still get a chance, slim to non existent i agree but still a chance of buying prints. He could quite easily push his prints out at 1-2k, that would knock a few buyers out of the game but still wouldn't stop flipping. Well said that man...
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by pezlow on Dec 17, 2010 10:42:11 GMT 1,
Iโm not sure I agree Pez; POW is a business and are doing very well out of such releases, thereโs no such thing as easy money so Iโm sure theyโre happy to deal with a few whingers in order to stay afloat and a decent contribution towards their costs each year. In regards to Banksy, Iโm sure his priority is not keeping everyone happy โ no doubt he wants things to be fair, which is why he has done this โqueue-jumping greyโ edition and did the extra Nola print a few years ago, but Iโm sure heโll realise that with very release there is always going to be far more people upset than happy (hence the word โlimitedโ). Each print release raises a large amount of money for the charity of his choice (whether people on here agree with it or not!), which Iโm sure it higher up on his priorities than keeping everyone happy. Things havenโt worked perfectly this year, but the release has served its purpose. POW will hopefully learn from a few mistakes, and next yearโs release should go smoother. Those with a print are happy, those without arenโt. Itโs time to move on everyone, get on with your lives โ a Banksy release is always something I look forward to, and I have been lucky to pick up some from source, but have the realisation that the chances are slim (getting one is well and truly a bonus). Next year, I will continue to look forward to it with anticipation, and enjoy the hype when the time comes, whether I pick one up or not. As everyone keeps saying, thereโs more important things in life. Am I rambling yetโฆ
POW is a business yes but controlled by banksy who it seems isn't really in it for the money. Even if Banksy/POW did stop releasing prints there would be other ways for them to make money. As for the charity thing well again there are ways for banksy to continue to donate his art to charity without the insanity of limited edition print releases.
Don't get me wrong I look forward with anticipation to each Banksy print release as well, and the hope that I might get one. But if I were banksy I would read all the threads on here and think about the bile that goes with it and wonder to myself whether it is all worth it.
On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's.
The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time.
Iโm not sure I agree Pez; POW is a business and are doing very well out of such releases, thereโs no such thing as easy money so Iโm sure theyโre happy to deal with a few whingers in order to stay afloat and a decent contribution towards their costs each year. In regards to Banksy, Iโm sure his priority is not keeping everyone happy โ no doubt he wants things to be fair, which is why he has done this โqueue-jumping greyโ edition and did the extra Nola print a few years ago, but Iโm sure heโll realise that with very release there is always going to be far more people upset than happy (hence the word โlimitedโ). Each print release raises a large amount of money for the charity of his choice (whether people on here agree with it or not!), which Iโm sure it higher up on his priorities than keeping everyone happy. Things havenโt worked perfectly this year, but the release has served its purpose. POW will hopefully learn from a few mistakes, and next yearโs release should go smoother. Those with a print are happy, those without arenโt. Itโs time to move on everyone, get on with your lives โ a Banksy release is always something I look forward to, and I have been lucky to pick up some from source, but have the realisation that the chances are slim (getting one is well and truly a bonus). Next year, I will continue to look forward to it with anticipation, and enjoy the hype when the time comes, whether I pick one up or not. As everyone keeps saying, thereโs more important things in life. Am I rambling yetโฆ POW is a business yes but controlled by banksy who it seems isn't really in it for the money. Even if Banksy/POW did stop releasing prints there would be other ways for them to make money. As for the charity thing well again there are ways for banksy to continue to donate his art to charity without the insanity of limited edition print releases. Don't get me wrong I look forward with anticipation to each Banksy print release as well, and the hope that I might get one. But if I were banksy I would read all the threads on here and think about the bile that goes with it and wonder to myself whether it is all worth it. On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's. The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by hlarmy on Dec 17, 2010 10:52:57 GMT 1, On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's. The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time.
Agreed Pez, there does seem to be a general consensus, and one that I certainly believe, that the VLH release with an option to purchase tickets online, is most definitely the way forward. It will put off flippers (although you'll stilll get the inevitable drop on eBay after release), but the most important thing about this is that everyone has the chance to enter, you don't need to spend your life wondering whether there is going to be an online release any minute, and you earn a shitload for charity through the raffle ticket sales, plus then POW can take there cut. Much less stressful for everyone involved. Surely everyone wins apart from those living in London who know they're in a prime position if it's a shop release.
On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's. The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time. Agreed Pez, there does seem to be a general consensus, and one that I certainly believe, that the VLH release with an option to purchase tickets online, is most definitely the way forward. It will put off flippers (although you'll stilll get the inevitable drop on eBay after release), but the most important thing about this is that everyone has the chance to enter, you don't need to spend your life wondering whether there is going to be an online release any minute, and you earn a shitload for charity through the raffle ticket sales, plus then POW can take there cut. Much less stressful for everyone involved. Surely everyone wins apart from those living in London who know they're in a prime position if it's a shop release.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stylus on Dec 17, 2010 11:05:13 GMT 1, Agree Pez.
Banksy and POW do their best to be as fair as possible to everyone, and Banksy doesn't release these prints for the money, he does it for the fans. After all, he could make more from the sale of one canvas and with a lot less subsequent hassle! But the edition size is always going to be way below the demand level at that price, so the vast majority of people who want one are going to miss out. Always. No release method, website or queueing system will alter that fact.
Given that Banksy makes his living as an artist, I can't imagine him undermining the secondary market in his work by releasing an edition of 20,000 or something either. We all saw what happened to the market for and sentiment around Micallef work after he released GIWTBB and the Impure Idols set on the same day.
I bet Banksy and the POW team have had a pretty torrid couple of weeks. Roll on Christmas!
Agree Pez.
Banksy and POW do their best to be as fair as possible to everyone, and Banksy doesn't release these prints for the money, he does it for the fans. After all, he could make more from the sale of one canvas and with a lot less subsequent hassle! But the edition size is always going to be way below the demand level at that price, so the vast majority of people who want one are going to miss out. Always. No release method, website or queueing system will alter that fact.
Given that Banksy makes his living as an artist, I can't imagine him undermining the secondary market in his work by releasing an edition of 20,000 or something either. We all saw what happened to the market for and sentiment around Micallef work after he released GIWTBB and the Impure Idols set on the same day.
I bet Banksy and the POW team have had a pretty torrid couple of weeks. Roll on Christmas!
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by bullet on Dec 17, 2010 11:06:47 GMT 1, On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's. The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time. Agreed Pez, there does seem to be a general consensus, and one that I certainly believe, that the VLH release with an option to purchase tickets online, is most definitely the way forward. It will put off flippers (although you'll stilll get the inevitable drop on eBay after release), but the most important thing about this is that everyone has the chance to enter, you don't need to spend your life wondering whether there is going to be an online release any minute, and you earn a s**tload for charity through the raffle ticket sales, plus then POW can take there cut. Much less stressful for everyone involved. Surely everyone wins apart from those living in London who know they're in a prime position if it's a shop release.
Everyone keeps saying this, but does this not fall under gambling and lotteries which they would need a licence for? I thought that was an issue after last time?
On the subject of releases there isn't a perfect way of doing things. Those saying that it should be an online release are probably the same people who were moaning about automatic shopping bots, the protx problems with trolleys and the oversold NOLA's. The VLH release worked pretty well but again there were still plenty of moaners at the time. Agreed Pez, there does seem to be a general consensus, and one that I certainly believe, that the VLH release with an option to purchase tickets online, is most definitely the way forward. It will put off flippers (although you'll stilll get the inevitable drop on eBay after release), but the most important thing about this is that everyone has the chance to enter, you don't need to spend your life wondering whether there is going to be an online release any minute, and you earn a s**tload for charity through the raffle ticket sales, plus then POW can take there cut. Much less stressful for everyone involved. Surely everyone wins apart from those living in London who know they're in a prime position if it's a shop release. Everyone keeps saying this, but does this not fall under gambling and lotteries which they would need a licence for? I thought that was an issue after last time?
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by bazzj04 on Dec 17, 2010 11:11:50 GMT 1, i bet POW come and have a look on here and just think to themselves what the f**k
i bet POW come and have a look on here and just think to themselves what the f**k
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stylus on Dec 17, 2010 11:17:13 GMT 1, i bet POW come and have a look on here and just think to themselves what the f**k
I reckon it's their Friday afternoon guilty pleasure... must be hilarious!
i bet POW come and have a look on here and just think to themselves what the f**k I reckon it's their Friday afternoon guilty pleasure... must be hilarious!
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by balibob on Dec 17, 2010 11:53:39 GMT 1, I must admit to being somewhat pissed off that a 'bonus release' has happened to compensate those poor little things who got pushed out of the queue by those nasty bigger boys. The majority of people who wanted a print (i didn't by the way) didn't have a chance to just pop down the road and join in the scrum, because WE DONT LIVE IN LONDON, and or had to work, have a family, a life etc. How about a new release exclusive to non-Londoners, just to compensate us for not having to queue all night and watch the people push in then rush to put the print on ebay.
End of mini rant
I must admit to being somewhat pissed off that a 'bonus release' has happened to compensate those poor little things who got pushed out of the queue by those nasty bigger boys. The majority of people who wanted a print (i didn't by the way) didn't have a chance to just pop down the road and join in the scrum, because WE DONT LIVE IN LONDON, and or had to work, have a family, a life etc. How about a new release exclusive to non-Londoners, just to compensate us for not having to queue all night and watch the people push in then rush to put the print on ebay.
End of mini rant
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by hlarmy on Dec 17, 2010 12:09:38 GMT 1, Has anyone received the warm grey version yet? If so, can you PM me please
Has anyone received the warm grey version yet? If so, can you PM me please
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by joeschmo on Dec 17, 2010 12:39:09 GMT 1, Fucking farce.
Fucking farce.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by lighterboy on Dec 17, 2010 12:52:04 GMT 1, Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one.
Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by saint on Dec 17, 2010 12:56:28 GMT 1, How about an edition in blue and white for the spurs fans who have to wait for a while until we thrash another team from Milan??
How about an edition in blue and white for the spurs fans who have to wait for a while until we thrash another team from Milan??
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by bullet on Dec 17, 2010 12:56:32 GMT 1, Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one.
no
Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one. no
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by leumasdarnley on Dec 17, 2010 12:57:51 GMT 1, I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone.
I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by hlarmy on Dec 17, 2010 13:00:54 GMT 1, Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one. no
No ... it would de-value my signed version
Could we now have an edition of 500 unsigned! Pre Xmas for people who still did not get one. no No ... it would de-value my signed version
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by fingerz on Dec 17, 2010 13:04:59 GMT 1, I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone.
or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ...
I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone. or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ...
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by leumasdarnley on Dec 17, 2010 13:06:56 GMT 1, I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone. or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ...
Well to make it more fair I would trade for a GWB canvas. Help me rid this horrible guilt.
I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone. or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ... Well to make it more fair I would trade for a GWB canvas. Help me rid this horrible guilt.
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by fingerz on Dec 17, 2010 13:10:19 GMT 1, or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ... Well to make it more fair I would trade for a GWB canvas. Help me rid this horrible guilt.
hahahaha good choice ;D
or for cost cos that would be a nice thing to do ... Well to make it more fair I would trade for a GWB canvas. Help me rid this horrible guilt. hahahaha good choice ;D
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by ABC on Dec 17, 2010 13:54:15 GMT 1,
What is? The fact you missed out?
What is? The fact you missed out?
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by lighterboy on Dec 17, 2010 14:30:48 GMT 1, I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone.
I would take it off your hands if you get 2!
I am going to have 2 warm grey versions as me and a couple of my mates wanted to stand in line but then realized we were in a different country. Now that I see how many people missed out I feel guilty for having them. So the best thing I could figure out was to sell them at market value. Seems fair for everyone. I would take it off your hands if you get 2!
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by truetiger on Dec 17, 2010 14:46:59 GMT 1, 1500?
1500?
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stopki on Dec 17, 2010 14:51:26 GMT 1,
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stopki on Dec 17, 2010 14:53:59 GMT 1,
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stopki on Dec 17, 2010 14:56:27 GMT 1,
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by stopki on Dec 17, 2010 14:57:29 GMT 1,
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NEW BANKSY 'Queue Jumping Grey' Choose Your Weapon, by bazzj04 on Dec 17, 2010 15:02:07 GMT 1,
Thats nice,
Thats nice,
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