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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 9:22:06 GMT 1, I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely.
All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely.
I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely.
All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely.
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blerd
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by blerd on Mar 4, 2020 9:42:22 GMT 1, I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely. All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely. With respect its not a George Condo Canvas.
I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely. All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely. With respect its not a George Condo Canvas.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by vandamme on Mar 4, 2020 10:35:30 GMT 1, I have to agree with you, iIf I was spending that much I would fly out
I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.. saying that lots of people have already done it is not really a justification.. its fair to say we have all read tales on here of people who have done it ( not for this amount even ) and ended up in trouble...so it works both ways. Im in not trying to take the higher ground, im just saying that there is no way that I would send that amount of money, by Bank Transfer, ย two months before I even get to see / collect a print to someone ive communicated with for 24 hours on an open online forum, in a totally different country.. I appreciate all amount of checks can be done to try to verify the print and the seller, but why take that risk when there are other, safer ways to do the transaction. Just attempting to highlight the risk that is all Its not really that crazy actually... plenty here have done it myself included. With a proper reference check there shouldnโt be a problem. If no references available than Iโd probably agree. My statement was assuming the best and not the worst. That all due diligence has been done already.
I have to agree with you, iIf I was spending that much I would fly out I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.. saying that lots of people have already done it is not really a justification.. its fair to say we have all read tales on here of people who have done it ( not for this amount even ) and ended up in trouble...so it works both ways. Im in not trying to take the higher ground, im just saying that there is no way that I would send that amount of money, by Bank Transfer, ย two months before I even get to see / collect a print to someone ive communicated with for 24 hours on an open online forum, in a totally different country.. I appreciate all amount of checks can be done to try to verify the print and the seller, but why take that risk when there are other, safer ways to do the transaction. Just attempting to highlight the risk that is all Its not really that crazy actually... plenty here have done it myself included. With a proper reference check there shouldnโt be a problem. If no references available than Iโd probably agree. My statement was assuming the best and not the worst. That all due diligence has been done already.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 11:50:41 GMT 1, I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely. All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely. With respect its not a George Condo Canvas.ย
I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them.
Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud?
I find it hard to understand why youโd ever sell something of this value anywhere other than at auction. Sothebyโs or Christieโs would bite your arm off to sell it and almost certainly reduce the usual 10% commission. Itโs more than worth it for the peace of mind, plus youโd probably get a great price on something that comes up so rarely. All this talk is about minimising your risk of fraud by selling privately. At this value, Iโd be looking to eradicate the risk entirely. With respect its not a George Condo Canvas.ย I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them. Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud?
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blerd
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by blerd on Mar 4, 2020 14:33:04 GMT 1, With respect its not a George Condo Canvas. I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them. Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud? Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print.
With respect its not a George Condo Canvas. I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them. Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud? Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 15:38:06 GMT 1, I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them. Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud? Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print.ย
Still have absolutely no idea what point youโre making, sorry.
I donโt understand your point. Big auction houses arenโt just interested in paintings worth hundreds of thousands. A print worth ยฃ50,000+, and guaranteed to sell, is going to be very interesting to them. Or are you saying ยฃ50k is not enough money to make it worth worrying about fraud? Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print.ย Still have absolutely no idea what point youโre making, sorry.
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blerd
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by blerd on Mar 4, 2020 15:57:47 GMT 1, Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print. Still have absolutely no idea what point youโre making, sorry. have a cup of tea.
Correct. I'm not saying that. A lot of people have that print. Still have absolutely no idea what point youโre making, sorry. have a cup of tea.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Pipes on Mar 12, 2020 2:48:54 GMT 1, yes, and i'm still feeling it today. meanwhile, perhaps someone here can advise me on a few things. the buyer is going to fly from the UK to pick up the piece in early april. i should get a deposit, right? if so, for about how much? and what's the best way for him to get the money to me, in such a way that he feels safe? Then there's the matter of payment when he arrives to get the print. At that point, after he's inspected it, how should we handle the money transfer? i assume some kind of currency conversion has to take place, but I know little about such things. can anyone help?
Lucky wasnโt from Europe !
yes, and i'm still feeling it today. meanwhile, perhaps someone here can advise me on a few things. the buyer is going to fly from the UK to pick up the piece in early april. i should get a deposit, right? if so, for about how much? and what's the best way for him to get the money to me, in such a way that he feels safe? Then there's the matter of payment when he arrives to get the print. At that point, after he's inspected it, how should we handle the money transfer? i assume some kind of currency conversion has to take place, but I know little about such things. can anyone help? Lucky wasnโt from Europe !
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by tab1 on Mar 12, 2020 3:00:11 GMT 1, yes, and i'm still feeling it today. meanwhile, perhaps someone here can advise me on a few things. the buyer is going to fly from the UK to pick up the piece in early april. i should get a deposit, right? if so, for about how much? and what's the best way for him to get the money to me, in such a way that he feels safe? Then there's the matter of payment when he arrives to get the print. At that point, after he's inspected it, how should we handle the money transfer? i assume some kind of currency conversion has to take place, but I know little about such things. can anyone help? Lucky wasnโt from Europe ! ยฃ2000 non refundable deposit should deem the buyer is committed plus uk will probably be on lockdown by then as trump has already banned flights for 30 days and may extend depending on the situation of covid 19, all art prices are likely to dip so conduct sale soon as if possible . if want a secure sale conducted , you could get a contract written up by a solicitor with deposit conditions and negotiate from sale price 50/50 split on costs. ยฃ350-ยฃ550 to get a contract sale drawn up
yes, and i'm still feeling it today. meanwhile, perhaps someone here can advise me on a few things. the buyer is going to fly from the UK to pick up the piece in early april. i should get a deposit, right? if so, for about how much? and what's the best way for him to get the money to me, in such a way that he feels safe? Then there's the matter of payment when he arrives to get the print. At that point, after he's inspected it, how should we handle the money transfer? i assume some kind of currency conversion has to take place, but I know little about such things. can anyone help? Lucky wasnโt from Europe ! ยฃ2000 non refundable deposit should deem the buyer is committed plus uk will probably be on lockdown by then as trump has already banned flights for 30 days and may extend depending on the situation of covid 19, all art prices are likely to dip so conduct sale soon as if possible . if want a secure sale conducted , you could get a contract written up by a solicitor with deposit conditions and negotiate from sale price 50/50 split on costs. ยฃ350-ยฃ550 to get a contract sale drawn up
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by sfnyc on Mar 12, 2020 3:21:41 GMT 1, Escrow is a great and solid way to do this. make it the buyer's cost (or split it if you're nice) and then you can both be very secure in your huge sum of money exchanged. GLWTS
Not really. I ve seen cases with lawyers refusing to release escrow even with both parties requesting it, turn into sh*t shows
Escrow is a great and solid way to do this. make it the buyer's cost (or split it if you're nice) and then you can both be very secure in your huge sum of money exchanged. GLWTS Not really. I ve seen cases with lawyers refusing to release escrow even with both parties requesting it, turn into sh*t shows
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by urbanflik on May 15, 2020 1:28:08 GMT 1, Im looking for this print or Magenta - please get in touch.
Thanks
Im looking for this print or Magenta - please get in touch.
Thanks
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artbrut22
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by artbrut22 on May 25, 2020 22:31:27 GMT 1, I assume this is sold but if anyone is looking to sell their blue Choose Your Weapon, please get in touch. Thanks!
I assume this is sold but if anyone is looking to sell their blue Choose Your Weapon, please get in touch. Thanks!
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by glap86 on May 25, 2020 22:44:13 GMT 1, Escrow is a great and solid way to do this. make it the buyer's cost (or split it if you're nice) and then you can both be very secure in your huge sum of money exchanged. GLWTS Not really. I ve seen cases with lawyers refusing to release escrow even with both parties requesting it, turn into sh*t shows
Lawyers work for clients. A lawyer can strongly advise against a certain course of action, but if the client insists, the lawyerโs job is either to do it, refuse and get fired by the client, or to withdraw from representation.
Escrow is a great and solid way to do this. make it the buyer's cost (or split it if you're nice) and then you can both be very secure in your huge sum of money exchanged. GLWTS Not really. I ve seen cases with lawyers refusing to release escrow even with both parties requesting it, turn into sh*t shows Lawyers work for clients. A lawyer can strongly advise against a certain course of action, but if the client insists, the lawyerโs job is either to do it, refuse and get fired by the client, or to withdraw from representation.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by sfnyc on May 26, 2020 3:17:44 GMT 1, Only talking from a bad experience here with a dirty lawyer that wouldnt release funds on the excuse that the large international transaction was suspicious and threatening to report it to authorities (clearly trying to bluff to see if they can get away with it when the whole transaction was legitimate). So yeah beware of lawyers escrow services, especially when dealing in large sums or when documentation is not solid.
Only talking from a bad experience here with a dirty lawyer that wouldnt release funds on the excuse that the large international transaction was suspicious and threatening to report it to authorities (clearly trying to bluff to see if they can get away with it when the whole transaction was legitimate). So yeah beware of lawyers escrow services, especially when dealing in large sums or when documentation is not solid.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by dbm on May 26, 2020 18:03:08 GMT 1, Great colour... good luck with the sale...
Great colour... good luck with the sale...
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glap86
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by glap86 on May 26, 2020 18:06:14 GMT 1, Only talking from a bad experience here with a dirty lawyer that wouldnt release funds on the excuse that the large international transaction was suspicious and threatening to report it to authorities (clearly trying to bluff to see if they can get away with it when the whole transaction was legitimate). So yeah beware of lawyers escrow services, especially when dealing in large sums or when documentation is not solid.
You should have filed an ethics complaint against that lawyer.
Only talking from a bad experience here with a dirty lawyer that wouldnt release funds on the excuse that the large international transaction was suspicious and threatening to report it to authorities (clearly trying to bluff to see if they can get away with it when the whole transaction was legitimate). So yeah beware of lawyers escrow services, especially when dealing in large sums or when documentation is not solid. You should have filed an ethics complaint against that lawyer.
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tab1
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by tab1 on May 26, 2020 23:09:11 GMT 1, Only talking from a bad experience here with a dirty lawyer that wouldnt release funds on the excuse that the large international transaction was suspicious and threatening to report it to authorities (clearly trying to bluff to see if they can get away with it when the whole transaction was legitimate). So yeah beware of lawyers escrow services, especially when dealing in large sums or when documentation is not solid. Just an observation , but sounds like the lawyer could be honest . International drug cartels trade pablo Picasso and monets, mid level traffickers also use art to channels funds across continents , also used to avoid taxes , prices in this urban sector could be viewed the same , especially if the lawyer was unaware of the artist
www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2016/sep/30/gangsters-use-of-paintings-as-currency-shows-profound-belief-in-art
www.apollo-magazine.com/5th-anti-money-laundering-directive-uk-art-market/
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by begs on May 28, 2020 6:07:08 GMT 1, Very interesting read . There where a few gallery and house thefts around Manchester a few years ago . The House theft was featured on Crimewatch in volving Lowery paintings .
Very interesting read . There where a few gallery and house thefts around Manchester a few years ago . The House theft was featured on Crimewatch in volving Lowery paintings .
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by lee3 on Jun 8, 2020 0:55:38 GMT 1, ^Nice. A decade+ since this was painted down on grange st and current times add another layer to that composition. Life imitating art again
^Nice. A decade+ since this was painted down on grange st and current times add another layer to that composition. Life imitating art again
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by hupster on Jun 11, 2020 14:18:58 GMT 1, After holding back due to coronavirus the sale to someone this has now fallen through so putting it out there. For sale Choose your weapon Olive edition of 25 with pest control, original owner from Marks and stencils shop now framed by Mr Frameman in perfect condition.
PM serious offers.
Thanks
After holding back due to coronavirus the sale to someone this has now fallen through so putting it out there. For sale Choose your weapon Olive edition of 25 with pest control, original owner from Marks and stencils shop now framed by Mr Frameman in perfect condition.
PM serious offers.
Thanks
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Blissy on Jun 11, 2020 18:07:24 GMT 1, Hi How you looking for Kind regards
Hi How you looking for Kind regards
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Poster Bob
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Yup, because color doesn't matter at all.
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hupster
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by hupster on Jun 12, 2020 18:00:50 GMT 1, After holding back due to coronavirus the sale to someone this has now fallen through so putting it out there. For sale Choose your weapon Olive edition of 25 with pest control, original owner from Marks and stencils shop now framed by Mr Frameman in perfect condition.
PM serious offers.
Thanks
Thanks everyone who have sent me a PM. This is now sold pending final payment.
After holding back due to coronavirus the sale to someone this has now fallen through so putting it out there. For sale Choose your weapon Olive edition of 25 with pest control, original owner from Marks and stencils shop now framed by Mr Frameman in perfect condition.
PM serious offers.
Thanks
Thanks everyone who have sent me a PM. This is now sold pending final payment.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by indurain on Jul 6, 2020 6:12:02 GMT 1, I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range
Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers.
I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range
Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by lv90210 on Jul 6, 2020 6:19:44 GMT 1, I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers. I join that queue.
I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers. I join that queue.
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by sharky on Jul 6, 2020 9:47:04 GMT 1, I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers. I join that queue. Me too
I am looking to pick up an unsigned and a signed Banksy print. Looking for: 1) Unsigned in 10-25kยฃ range 2) Signed in 20-30kยฃ range Would be interested to hear any reasonable offers. I join that queue. Me too
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Banksy โข Choose Your Weapon Print, by Deleted on Jul 6, 2020 11:12:42 GMT 1, Had sale ends V2 now topped 30k? The speed of increase is mental!
Had sale ends V2 now topped 30k? The speed of increase is mental!
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