vfg
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by vfg on Oct 14, 2021 23:02:47 GMT 1, I asked why is that info important, replying with the same exact comment won't help me understand.
I don't see how I am wasting your time, as I did not specifically ask you anything. You are free to do something else.
All in all, I just don't understand the animosity, since I don't think I offended anyone, but you are free to do as you please.
Well, I suppose if anyone else has any insight, I'd be really grateful (as I appreciate Fred West Country Prince replying to me). I'll update with the auction link if I don't resolve the issue with the auction house soon.
I asked why is that info important, replying with the same exact comment won't help me understand.
I don't see how I am wasting your time, as I did not specifically ask you anything. You are free to do something else.
All in all, I just don't understand the animosity, since I don't think I offended anyone, but you are free to do as you please.
Well, I suppose if anyone else has any insight, I'd be really grateful (as I appreciate Fred West Country Prince replying to me). I'll update with the auction link if I don't resolve the issue with the auction house soon.
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Jimini Cricket
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Jimini Cricket on Oct 15, 2021 14:45:32 GMT 1, Details are scant, therefore advice will be scant.
General observation, in practice a bricks and mortar auction house that conducts a physical auction, should already have possession.
Anything else, depends on the organisation and how covid has impacted logistics in the region.
Details are scant, therefore advice will be scant.
General observation, in practice a bricks and mortar auction house that conducts a physical auction, should already have possession.
Anything else, depends on the organisation and how covid has impacted logistics in the region.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Happy Shopper on Oct 15, 2021 14:50:23 GMT 1, There was a story on here not long ago about a similar situation, where the auction house didn't have the piece, and then the seller backed out.
So, yes, the auction house should have the piece in hand, and have inspected it.
There was a story on here not long ago about a similar situation, where the auction house didn't have the piece, and then the seller backed out.
So, yes, the auction house should have the piece in hand, and have inspected it.
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WOOF
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by WOOF on Oct 15, 2021 15:54:17 GMT 1, Lots of companies like artnet will have auctions where they are not in possession of the pieces. Itโs not crazy abnormal.
Lots of companies like artnet will have auctions where they are not in possession of the pieces. Itโs not crazy abnormal.
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eleddy
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by eleddy on Oct 15, 2021 17:14:47 GMT 1, I also consider myself a "newb". I've been collecting (for myself) for about 3 years and my general experience is ... There is no general experience. The pandemic uprooted everything. I waited 2 months for a piece I thought was in Florida once, that somehow was actually in NJ. I've done 6 different auctions now and my general feeling is that you should find it anywhere else if you can. Unless you're going Christie's or Sotheby's and tossing 6 figures to the wind, I've found even the same auction houses can have variable shipping, descriptions, etc.
Direct from the artist/printer/gallery/stockx/eBay/auction in that order is my preference. Honestly, I've even had better experiences with my eBay buys.
I also consider myself a "newb". I've been collecting (for myself) for about 3 years and my general experience is ... There is no general experience. The pandemic uprooted everything. I waited 2 months for a piece I thought was in Florida once, that somehow was actually in NJ. I've done 6 different auctions now and my general feeling is that you should find it anywhere else if you can. Unless you're going Christie's or Sotheby's and tossing 6 figures to the wind, I've found even the same auction houses can have variable shipping, descriptions, etc.
Direct from the artist/printer/gallery/stockx/eBay/auction in that order is my preference. Honestly, I've even had better experiences with my eBay buys.
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vfg
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by vfg on Oct 15, 2021 20:18:46 GMT 1, Thank you everyone for your opinions. I suppose it really can vary from place to place. This one is a brick and mortar auction house (a popular one), not artnet or similia.
I spoke to the auction house and there had been an actual issue with the lot. I will update to explain what happened, but I want to wait till it's resolved.
Thank you everyone for your opinions. I suppose it really can vary from place to place. This one is a brick and mortar auction house (a popular one), not artnet or similia.
I spoke to the auction house and there had been an actual issue with the lot. I will update to explain what happened, but I want to wait till it's resolved.
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ap0
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by ap0 on Oct 17, 2021 14:04:00 GMT 1, Hi all, just wanted to ask if the final price displayed on Sotheby's, Christies, Phillips, Bonhams websites includes the buyer's premium or not. Thanks
Hi all, just wanted to ask if the final price displayed on Sotheby's, Christies, Phillips, Bonhams websites includes the buyer's premium or not. Thanks
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Octopus UK
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Octopus UK on Oct 17, 2021 14:29:36 GMT 1, If it ends in a strange amount that isn't whole ยฃ's then it probably does.
If it ends in a strange amount that isn't whole ยฃ's then it probably does.
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JFCC
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by JFCC on Oct 17, 2021 19:21:26 GMT 1, They all include buyers premium and ARR but exclude the VAT that is payable on the buyers premium and any import VAT.
They all include buyers premium and ARR but exclude the VAT that is payable on the buyers premium and any import VAT.
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vfg
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by vfg on Oct 19, 2021 17:36:25 GMT 1, To conclude: after inquiring about the delay, the auction house told me that the artwork had been damaged in handling, so they had obtained a new one, which explains the delay. They also offered to refund me the amount (it was ~$150) and send it for free. I asked, if possible, to just cancel the bids (remember I had won two lots). They graciously gave me a full refund.
To conclude: after inquiring about the delay, the auction house told me that the artwork had been damaged in handling, so they had obtained a new one, which explains the delay. They also offered to refund me the amount (it was ~$150) and send it for free. I asked, if possible, to just cancel the bids (remember I had won two lots). They graciously gave me a full refund.
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J0NNY
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by J0NNY on Jan 3, 2022 8:27:02 GMT 1, Hey guys can anyone give advice on the best auction house for Australians ( WA) ? Iโd be looking to put In three or four Hirsts, Invader, Henry Chalfant, Brainwash ( exit through the gift shop Elvis donโt be cruel HF ) prints amongst some other smaller but respected hitters.
Would Hong Kong be my best bet ?
Hey guys can anyone give advice on the best auction house for Australians ( WA) ? Iโd be looking to put In three or four Hirsts, Invader, Henry Chalfant, Brainwash ( exit through the gift shop Elvis donโt be cruel HF ) prints amongst some other smaller but respected hitters.
Would Hong Kong be my best bet ?
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Deleted on Jan 4, 2022 2:23:48 GMT 1, Hong Kong chap.
Why are you even asking this question you misguided nitwit?
Close thread.
Hong Kong chap.
Why are you even asking this question you misguided nitwit?
Close thread.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Jan 4, 2022 3:13:36 GMT 1, Hey guys can anyone give advice on the best auction house for Australians ( WA) ? Iโd be looking to put In three or four Hirsts, Invader, Henry Chalfant, Brainwash ( exit through the gift shop Elvis donโt be cruel HF ) prints amongst some other smaller but respected hitters. Would Hong Kong be my best bet ?
I've just sent you a PM fella ๐
Hey guys can anyone give advice on the best auction house for Australians ( WA) ? Iโd be looking to put In three or four Hirsts, Invader, Henry Chalfant, Brainwash ( exit through the gift shop Elvis donโt be cruel HF ) prints amongst some other smaller but respected hitters. Would Hong Kong be my best bet ? I've just sent you a PM fella ๐ |
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sandworm
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by sandworm on Jan 29, 2022 19:34:43 GMT 1, I haven't previously sold at auction but have a few pieces that I'd be looking to sell in an upcoming auction that I would assume are valued at somewhere between ยฃ2-8k each.
I would prefer to deal with one of the top tier houses if possible: Christies, Sothebys & Philips
Is there any reason to go with one over the other for prints & multiples?
I am concerned that maybe these auction houses only accept 'lower' value pieces (sub ยฃ10k) for good customers that consign higher value lots / have built a reputation with them?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
I haven't previously sold at auction but have a few pieces that I'd be looking to sell in an upcoming auction that I would assume are valued at somewhere between ยฃ2-8k each.
I would prefer to deal with one of the top tier houses if possible: Christies, Sothebys & Philips
Is there any reason to go with one over the other for prints & multiples?
I am concerned that maybe these auction houses only accept 'lower' value pieces (sub ยฃ10k) for good customers that consign higher value lots / have built a reputation with them?
Any advice would be much appreciated.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by My Name is Frank on Jun 8, 2022 14:42:46 GMT 1, I would think the bird in the hand, would you not have to pay a percentage on top of anything to the auction house at auction, so the offer in effect is more than ยฃ8000?
I would think the bird in the hand, would you not have to pay a percentage on top of anything to the auction house at auction, so the offer in effect is more than ยฃ8000?
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fusion0001
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by fusion0001 on Jun 8, 2022 15:12:51 GMT 1, Would really depend on the artwork, but something to keep in mind is that if this is the first proposed estimate by Sotheby's, then those are typically significantly below actual value of the work, since the auction house wants to make sure they have as close as 100% sell-through and hence their recommended low estimate is usually far below market value.
Would really depend on the artwork, but something to keep in mind is that if this is the first proposed estimate by Sotheby's, then those are typically significantly below actual value of the work, since the auction house wants to make sure they have as close as 100% sell-through and hence their recommended low estimate is usually far below market value.
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robsim
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by robsim on Jun 8, 2022 15:25:38 GMT 1, Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol.
Robert
Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol.
Robert
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startimeash
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by startimeash on Jun 8, 2022 15:50:59 GMT 1, Do you have a particular thing that you want to do with the money? If so, and if ยฃ8k will cover it, then take that. If it's just going to sit in the bank, and you're treating it as a nest egg, I'd be inclined to go to auction. If ยฃ8k would give me a holiday of a lifetime, for example, then I'd prefer to know that was paid for, rather than stress about the "what if's" of going to auction. That said, both other posters make good points. For me, though, if you have it earmarked for a particular project or use, take the cash.
Do you have a particular thing that you want to do with the money? If so, and if ยฃ8k will cover it, then take that. If it's just going to sit in the bank, and you're treating it as a nest egg, I'd be inclined to go to auction. If ยฃ8k would give me a holiday of a lifetime, for example, then I'd prefer to know that was paid for, rather than stress about the "what if's" of going to auction. That said, both other posters make good points. For me, though, if you have it earmarked for a particular project or use, take the cash.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Daniel Silk on Jun 8, 2022 16:49:22 GMT 1, I guess you also need to think about if it went to auction that could be month away, and that could mean the value going up or down?
Also like others have said, if you plan to buy another piece of art with that money, do you really need it now! Will that new piece be sold out or gone up in value in a few months time?
I guess you also need to think about if it went to auction that could be month away, and that could mean the value going up or down?
Also like others have said, if you plan to buy another piece of art with that money, do you really need it now! Will that new piece be sold out or gone up in value in a few months time?
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Riotcops
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Riotcops on Jun 8, 2022 16:49:30 GMT 1, If I needed the money right away I'd sell. If not, it would head to auction. You're essentially betting ยฃ800 for an unknown upside but based on the high estimate it would be 4.5x or potentially much higher. If one person is willing to pay ยฃ8k right now I'd presume there will be many more.
If I needed the money right away I'd sell. If not, it would head to auction. You're essentially betting ยฃ800 for an unknown upside but based on the high estimate it would be 4.5x or potentially much higher. If one person is willing to pay ยฃ8k right now I'd presume there will be many more.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by u%hdjfka c on Jun 8, 2022 17:47:05 GMT 1, Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol. Robert
What auction company?
Why should we sell with you?
What are your terms?
Etc etc
Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol. Robert 0 out of 10 for effort What auction company? Why should we sell with you? What are your terms? Etc etc |
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by compound on Jun 8, 2022 18:06:04 GMT 1, Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol. Robert 0 out of 10 for effort What auction company? Why should we sell with you? What are your terms? Etc etc
Hello, i am an Advisor for an auction company, iโm looking for Banksy to put in auction. Good conditions and pestcontrol. Robert 0 out of 10 for effort What auction company? Why should we sell with you? What are your terms? Etc etc You donโt need to worry about all that. Heโs an advisor donโt you know.s**t need more words to post. Is the auction โcharity starsโ do you want it free? |
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robsim
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by robsim on Jun 9, 2022 7:52:39 GMT 1, Usually i donโt write all in thread. By message i will answer everyone wh Have interest.
i prefer usually like that.
I think every one know how work an auction house. And yes there are reasons to work together and sell with us. But we can talk easier by message.
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Usually i donโt write all in thread. By message i will answer everyone wh Have interest.
i prefer usually like that.
I think every one know how work an auction house. And yes there are reasons to work together and sell with us. But we can talk easier by message.
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Lazarus II
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Lazarus II on Jun 9, 2022 8:51:39 GMT 1, I hope you have no plans for today as now you have provided clarity i think you will suffer inbox meltdown.
I hope you have no plans for today as now you have provided clarity i think you will suffer inbox meltdown.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by disturbart on Jun 9, 2022 17:46:50 GMT 1, All seems legit to me. Please let me know address to send my Banksy to. Will send insured just to be safe 
All seems legit to me. Please let me know address to send my Banksy to. Will send insured just to be safe |
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by JFCC on Jun 9, 2022 18:36:48 GMT 1, Wow what a fantastic opportunity...cannot wait to find out the details...I bet it's going to be life changing...is it a Nigerian Prince's auction Company by any chance? I'm just packing up everything now!!
By the way, I love the way you compose a message, that mix of spelling, grammar and punctuation errors make you an advisor to trust!! ๐๐๐
Wow what a fantastic opportunity...cannot wait to find out the details...I bet it's going to be life changing...is it a Nigerian Prince's auction Company by any chance? I'm just packing up everything now!!
By the way, I love the way you compose a message, that mix of spelling, grammar and punctuation errors make you an advisor to trust!! ๐๐๐
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by drbf on Jul 17, 2022 2:08:20 GMT 1, Sotheby's will give you three values.
1. Auction estimate
2. Insurance valuation
3. Retail valuation.
Get these three amounts and decide what to do.
Sotheby's will give you three values.
1. Auction estimate
2. Insurance valuation
3. Retail valuation.
Get these three amounts and decide what to do.
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Duke Down Stairs on Aug 25, 2022 6:39:40 GMT 1, Looking for recommendations for a French auction house to sell 2 SEEN paintings.
One regular Bubble; 1 large Mix N Match.
He seems to get high results in France, so looking there first.
But all advice welcomed.
Thank you!
Looking for recommendations for a French auction house to sell 2 SEEN paintings.
One regular Bubble; 1 large Mix N Match.
He seems to get high results in France, so looking there first.
But all advice welcomed.
Thank you!
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krywolf79
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by krywolf79 on Sept 13, 2022 15:59:26 GMT 1, Hi I am looking to put some pieces of the following artists in to auction.
I have never sold by auction so hoping to get some feedback from people that have gone down that route. Any advise , recommendations welcomed. Especially what houses would fit these type of pieces.
Damien Hirst - Virtues
Szabolcs Bozo - Small Original & Prints
Mr Doodle - Print
Invader - LED
David Shrigley - Shut Up
Hi I am looking to put some pieces of the following artists in to auction.
I have never sold by auction so hoping to get some feedback from people that have gone down that route. Any advise , recommendations welcomed. Especially what houses would fit these type of pieces.
Damien Hirst - Virtues
Szabolcs Bozo - Small Original & Prints
Mr Doodle - Print
Invader - LED
David Shrigley - Shut Up
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Poster Bob
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ADVICE ๐ฐ Buying & Selling Art at Auction, by Poster Bob on Sept 13, 2022 16:09:26 GMT 1, My advice is to make every attempt to sell them privately for prices that youโre happy with before you roll the dice and auction them off.
My advice is to make every attempt to sell them privately for prices that youโre happy with before you roll the dice and auction them off.
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