hal9001
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by hal9001 on Jan 18, 2011 20:28:58 GMT 1, the McDonaldization/Walmartization/Tescoization of this world would not be happening if people would simply stop trying to rip each other off, by trying to make a monopolistic profit on the sales of their goods.
In reciprication people would also have to accept that they will not get the best deal possible from their corner store and will have to pay a bit extra for service and convinience.
You see Tesco and wal mart buy the same products as your local market they just get them a bit cheaper, and slash their margins a bit to increase total revenue.
If people werent such greedy jerks, the corner stores would not have been so stubborn and would not have been run out of business, which they could have avoided by lowering their prices to compete, while consumers would realize the gas cost and time cost to get to a superstore negates the .15 savings on a can of tomato soup.
However you can see how the situation of recriprocity between shopkeep and customer has ruined the business model and now there is no choice. Its kind of like that movie DEMOLITION MAN with Stallone and Snipes where all restaurants in the future are TACO BELL's.
I will close with the old proverb of the villagers feeding too much to their dragon who guards their gold in the cave to curry favor and then cannot get the gold from the cave after the dragon is too fat to vacate the only entrance. The moral of the story being "greed will imprision us all" which you will remember comes from RUSH HOUR 3 with Chan and Tucker.
Of course you arent listening because this rant is too long or you just cant understand it enough to care, or cannot comprehend it at all and will just sluff it off, and I will go on talking to walls all of my days never doing any good for the economics of this world because we are all schmucks that dont give 2 left testicles about anything.
the McDonaldization/Walmartization/Tescoization of this world would not be happening if people would simply stop trying to rip each other off, by trying to make a monopolistic profit on the sales of their goods.
In reciprication people would also have to accept that they will not get the best deal possible from their corner store and will have to pay a bit extra for service and convinience.
You see Tesco and wal mart buy the same products as your local market they just get them a bit cheaper, and slash their margins a bit to increase total revenue.
If people werent such greedy jerks, the corner stores would not have been so stubborn and would not have been run out of business, which they could have avoided by lowering their prices to compete, while consumers would realize the gas cost and time cost to get to a superstore negates the .15 savings on a can of tomato soup.
However you can see how the situation of recriprocity between shopkeep and customer has ruined the business model and now there is no choice. Its kind of like that movie DEMOLITION MAN with Stallone and Snipes where all restaurants in the future are TACO BELL's.
I will close with the old proverb of the villagers feeding too much to their dragon who guards their gold in the cave to curry favor and then cannot get the gold from the cave after the dragon is too fat to vacate the only entrance. The moral of the story being "greed will imprision us all" which you will remember comes from RUSH HOUR 3 with Chan and Tucker.
Of course you arent listening because this rant is too long or you just cant understand it enough to care, or cannot comprehend it at all and will just sluff it off, and I will go on talking to walls all of my days never doing any good for the economics of this world because we are all schmucks that dont give 2 left testicles about anything.
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pcant
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by pcant on Jan 18, 2011 20:41:00 GMT 1, I think you're right on the money about people being too focused on cheap prices to realize what impact that has in the long term. If WallyMart runs all the little stores out of business, then goes under, where are you going to buy food, much less socks and cat food and 49 cent spatulas?
Spend your money locally. Get to actually know your local shopkeeper. Don't buy in to the greed.
Yes, you can buy a 49 cent spatula, that's made in who knows where, or you can spend a little more and get one locally, that's probably much better made and you won't be buying another one in a year or six months.
Think long-term, not just "can I get it cheaper?"
So, yeah, I was reading.
I think you're right on the money about people being too focused on cheap prices to realize what impact that has in the long term. If WallyMart runs all the little stores out of business, then goes under, where are you going to buy food, much less socks and cat food and 49 cent spatulas?
Spend your money locally. Get to actually know your local shopkeeper. Don't buy in to the greed.
Yes, you can buy a 49 cent spatula, that's made in who knows where, or you can spend a little more and get one locally, that's probably much better made and you won't be buying another one in a year or six months.
Think long-term, not just "can I get it cheaper?"
So, yeah, I was reading.
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hanky
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by hanky on Jan 19, 2011 9:07:08 GMT 1, That's a fine position to take if you're well off financially (which let's be serious the bulk of this forum probably are) but if your struggling to bring up a family on the average salary then telco probably appears very attractive.
That's a fine position to take if you're well off financially (which let's be serious the bulk of this forum probably are) but if your struggling to bring up a family on the average salary then telco probably appears very attractive.
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pcant
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by pcant on Jan 19, 2011 10:02:38 GMT 1, Hanky, you're right, and I don't have a family, so it's easier for me to say. I still argue that, when you can, it's better to spend a little more on, say, a toaster, if the payoff is you don't have to buy another one in a couple years. How cheap is cheap, really, in that case? And, at least in the Bay Area in California, farmers markets are a great source for good local produce, often as cheap as the supermarket, and they haven't traveled thousands of miles.
But, ultimately, you are correct. And that's why Tesco and WalMart are huge and getting bigger, because there are so many of us struggling to get buy. But if the financial crisis taught us anything, it should be that no one is too big to fail, and when Tesco or WalMart go under, what then?
Hanky, you're right, and I don't have a family, so it's easier for me to say. I still argue that, when you can, it's better to spend a little more on, say, a toaster, if the payoff is you don't have to buy another one in a couple years. How cheap is cheap, really, in that case? And, at least in the Bay Area in California, farmers markets are a great source for good local produce, often as cheap as the supermarket, and they haven't traveled thousands of miles.
But, ultimately, you are correct. And that's why Tesco and WalMart are huge and getting bigger, because there are so many of us struggling to get buy. But if the financial crisis taught us anything, it should be that no one is too big to fail, and when Tesco or WalMart go under, what then?
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digitalkid
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by digitalkid on Jan 19, 2011 13:05:24 GMT 1, it's simple tesco = s˙ʇ˙u˙n˙ɔ
it's simple tesco = s˙ʇ˙u˙n˙ɔ
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hal9001
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by hal9001 on Jan 19, 2011 16:19:30 GMT 1, That's a fine position to take if you're well off financially (which let's be serious the bulk of this forum probably are) but if your struggling to bring up a family on the average salary then telco probably appears very attractive.
PEOPLEOFWALMART.COM
I'd like to remark that the bulk of purchases at these superstores are items people do not need, like giant bags of candy for 95% off. There is a way in this world to stay under your budget (no matter what it may be) and avoid those big box stores, and their detriments. When you get a good deal on frozen pizza at the big box you get THOUSANDS OF CALORIES over your daily budget, but if you had spent that same amount walking to the local butcher (which are all but extinct) to buy a chicken or a roast, you get the lean meat protein without all the add-ins that leave people looking like they do in the link above (the gigantic fat ones not the just plain weird ones, although those pics are mildly amusing too)
That's a fine position to take if you're well off financially (which let's be serious the bulk of this forum probably are) but if your struggling to bring up a family on the average salary then telco probably appears very attractive. PEOPLEOFWALMART.COMI'd like to remark that the bulk of purchases at these superstores are items people do not need, like giant bags of candy for 95% off. There is a way in this world to stay under your budget (no matter what it may be) and avoid those big box stores, and their detriments. When you get a good deal on frozen pizza at the big box you get THOUSANDS OF CALORIES over your daily budget, but if you had spent that same amount walking to the local butcher (which are all but extinct) to buy a chicken or a roast, you get the lean meat protein without all the add-ins that leave people looking like they do in the link above (the gigantic fat ones not the just plain weird ones, although those pics are mildly amusing too)
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klyde
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by klyde on Jan 19, 2011 17:59:15 GMT 1, Tesco is great.
I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip.
I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else.
I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases.
I dont see the problem with any of this.
Tesco is great.
I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip.
I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else.
I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases.
I dont see the problem with any of this.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by don on Jan 19, 2011 18:03:46 GMT 1, Tesco is great. I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip. I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else. I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases. I dont see the problem with any of this.
Tesco is great. I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip. I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else. I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases. I dont see the problem with any of this.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by fingerz on Jan 19, 2011 18:07:52 GMT 1, my local corner shop sells things cheaper than the tescos/asda etc i dont know how thay do it but thay do
my local corner shop sells things cheaper than the tescos/asda etc i dont know how thay do it but thay do
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by jonnyx on Jan 19, 2011 18:31:59 GMT 1, my major problem with tesco is that most hideous of human beings dame shirley porter.
Nicholas Lezard in The Guardian described her thus "She remains, by a considerable margin, the most corrupt British public figure in living memory, with the possible exception of Robert Maxwell."
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Shirley_Porter
my major problem with tesco is that most hideous of human beings dame shirley porter. Nicholas Lezard in The Guardian described her thus "She remains, by a considerable margin, the most corrupt British public figure in living memory, with the possible exception of Robert Maxwell." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dame_Shirley_Porter
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 19, 2011 22:22:46 GMT 1, my local corner shop sells things cheaper than the tescos/asda etc i dont know how thay do it but thay do
It's because your local corner shop might be a secondary food retailer?
Tesco (or any other major brand) are contracted, for example, to buy 100,000 litres of Coca Cola per month. If they haven't sold enough then they will sell the surplus at cost (or less) to these guys as they have another 100,000 litres knocking on the door. In turn, they then will sell it on to cash and carrys and so on cheaper than they would be able to buy it direct.
There's a considerable chunk of change in this secondary market, it would make POW blush
my local corner shop sells things cheaper than the tescos/asda etc i dont know how thay do it but thay do It's because your local corner shop might be a secondary food retailer? Tesco (or any other major brand) are contracted, for example, to buy 100,000 litres of Coca Cola per month. If they haven't sold enough then they will sell the surplus at cost (or less) to these guys as they have another 100,000 litres knocking on the door. In turn, they then will sell it on to cash and carrys and so on cheaper than they would be able to buy it direct. There's a considerable chunk of change in this secondary market, it would make POW blush
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by steve on Jan 20, 2011 22:06:03 GMT 1, Hey guys I was just noticing that TESCO is an often recurring theme in most artists work from the UK. Just wondering if there is a reasoning behind this and if you could explain it to a Yank from Cali. Cheers, Yervi
simply because most of us can't spell sainsberries
Hey guys I was just noticing that TESCO is an often recurring theme in most artists work from the UK. Just wondering if there is a reasoning behind this and if you could explain it to a Yank from Cali. Cheers, Yervi simply because most of us can't spell sainsberries
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by manty on Jan 21, 2011 17:39:34 GMT 1, or moronsons
or moronsons
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Poppy Sunshine
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Poppy Sunshine on Jan 21, 2011 17:54:54 GMT 1, Well everyone can spell Asdurr so why don't they get more mention.
Well everyone can spell Asdurr so why don't they get more mention.
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alexnh123
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by alexnh123 on Jan 21, 2011 17:58:47 GMT 1, Everyones just copying Banksy..
that's a short sighted response. Probably not as simple as that
Everyones just copying Banksy.. that's a short sighted response. Probably not as simple as that
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by spirit on Jan 21, 2011 18:41:51 GMT 1, Tesco is great. I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip. I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else. I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases. I dont see the problem with any of this. one day we used to have local independent businesses who sold good quality produce, locally sourced, at fair prices. As opposed to once company, buying up land to prevent competition, selling below cost (loss-leading) with the intention to put local shops out of business, and promising local facilities in exchange for Council planning permisisons, primses which the supermarket then renege on. your post shows that you're either utterly ignorant or pointlessy trolling.
Funny thing is, you're both basically right.
Klyde is simply saying that he thinks Tesco's offer, on the face of it, is very attractive in terms of convenience and price. And given that one in every eight pounds or so that is spent in the UK is spent in Tesco, he's certainly not the only one. Tesco is so successful precisely because it provides what many people want.
Plurker however correctly points out that this convenience and cost saving does come at a (different kind of) price - the loss of our local shops and communities and the homogenisation of our towns and cities.
it's not all bad though - it is this takeover of the supermarkets that has itself led to the rapid growth of farm shops, farmer's markets and organic vegetable box deliveries from local growers.
Times change and things move on. Old businesses models die and new businesses take form. Your 3rd generation local fishmonger might have been put out of business but he now has the opportunity to start an Internet fish delivery company.
Tesco is great. I get all my food shopping done, and fill the car up in one trip. I also have my house and car insured with them which was far cheaper than everyone else. I pay for my shopping and petrol with a Tesco credit card so I get more club card points for everything I buy, giving me money off Tesco purchases. I dont see the problem with any of this. one day we used to have local independent businesses who sold good quality produce, locally sourced, at fair prices. As opposed to once company, buying up land to prevent competition, selling below cost (loss-leading) with the intention to put local shops out of business, and promising local facilities in exchange for Council planning permisisons, primses which the supermarket then renege on. your post shows that you're either utterly ignorant or pointlessy trolling. Funny thing is, you're both basically right. Klyde is simply saying that he thinks Tesco's offer, on the face of it, is very attractive in terms of convenience and price. And given that one in every eight pounds or so that is spent in the UK is spent in Tesco, he's certainly not the only one. Tesco is so successful precisely because it provides what many people want. Plurker however correctly points out that this convenience and cost saving does come at a (different kind of) price - the loss of our local shops and communities and the homogenisation of our towns and cities. it's not all bad though - it is this takeover of the supermarkets that has itself led to the rapid growth of farm shops, farmer's markets and organic vegetable box deliveries from local growers. Times change and things move on. Old businesses models die and new businesses take form. Your 3rd generation local fishmonger might have been put out of business but he now has the opportunity to start an Internet fish delivery company.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 21, 2011 19:16:28 GMT 1, one day we used to have local independent businesses who sold good quality produce, locally sourced, at fair prices. As opposed to once company, buying up land to prevent competition, selling below cost (loss-leading) with the intention to put local shops out of business, and promising local facilities in exchange for Council planning permisisons, primses which the supermarket then renege on. your post shows that you're either utterly ignorant or pointlessy trolling. Funny thing is, you're both basically right. Klyde is simply saying that he thinks Tesco's offer, on the face of it, is very attractive in terms of convenience and price. And given that one in every eight pounds or so that is spent in the UK is spent in Tesco, he's certainly not the only one. Tesco is so successful precisely because it provides what many people want. Plurker however correctly points out that this convenience and cost saving does come at a (different kind of) price - the loss of our local shops and communities and the homogenisation of our towns and cities. it's not all bad though - it is this takeover of the supermarkets that has itself led to the rapid growth of farm shops, farmer's markets and organic vegetable box deliveries from local growers. Times change and things move on. Old businesses models die and new businesses take form. Your 3rd generation local fishmonger might have been put out of business but he now has the opportunity to start an Internet fish delivery company.
I think you'll find Tesco will more than match your "local" internet fish delivery company's service. And not sure how an internet company add's to the sense of a communities health and sense of well being..Tesco are one of the contributing reasons for a lot of social problems in the UK these past years and it's not going to get any better, that's for sure. Their ambition and greed knows no bounds.
www.corporatewatch.org.uk/?lid=255
one day we used to have local independent businesses who sold good quality produce, locally sourced, at fair prices. As opposed to once company, buying up land to prevent competition, selling below cost (loss-leading) with the intention to put local shops out of business, and promising local facilities in exchange for Council planning permisisons, primses which the supermarket then renege on. your post shows that you're either utterly ignorant or pointlessy trolling. Funny thing is, you're both basically right. Klyde is simply saying that he thinks Tesco's offer, on the face of it, is very attractive in terms of convenience and price. And given that one in every eight pounds or so that is spent in the UK is spent in Tesco, he's certainly not the only one. Tesco is so successful precisely because it provides what many people want. Plurker however correctly points out that this convenience and cost saving does come at a (different kind of) price - the loss of our local shops and communities and the homogenisation of our towns and cities. it's not all bad though - it is this takeover of the supermarkets that has itself led to the rapid growth of farm shops, farmer's markets and organic vegetable box deliveries from local growers. Times change and things move on. Old businesses models die and new businesses take form. Your 3rd generation local fishmonger might have been put out of business but he now has the opportunity to start an Internet fish delivery company. I think you'll find Tesco will more than match your "local" internet fish delivery company's service. And not sure how an internet company add's to the sense of a communities health and sense of well being..Tesco are one of the contributing reasons for a lot of social problems in the UK these past years and it's not going to get any better, that's for sure. Their ambition and greed knows no bounds. www.corporatewatch.org.uk/?lid=255
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klyde
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by klyde on Jan 23, 2011 10:13:25 GMT 1, Its the way things are, probably since the first super markets in my town opened in the early 80s.
Sorcing, travelling to, and paying way over the odds in independant shops is all good if it makes a difference to you, thats if you actually have any to go to.
But in terms of fighting the coporate machine that is Tesco, its the same as turning up at the aftermath of an earthquake with a handheld dustpan and brush.
ps - Another great thing is that my local Tesco is open 24 hours a day fully stocked. Its fantastic.
Its the way things are, probably since the first super markets in my town opened in the early 80s.
Sorcing, travelling to, and paying way over the odds in independant shops is all good if it makes a difference to you, thats if you actually have any to go to.
But in terms of fighting the coporate machine that is Tesco, its the same as turning up at the aftermath of an earthquake with a handheld dustpan and brush.
ps - Another great thing is that my local Tesco is open 24 hours a day fully stocked. Its fantastic.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Daniel Silk on Jan 24, 2011 16:11:17 GMT 1, I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well.
I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by bazzj04 on Jan 24, 2011 18:01:37 GMT 1, Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of shit pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality.
Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of shit pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by bazzj04 on Jan 24, 2011 18:12:26 GMT 1, an example of mentality of some can be found here...
www.facebook.com/#!/SheernessTimesGuardian/posts/192929110721075
This is refering to a prominant pub building in the high street.
an example of mentality of some can be found here... www.facebook.com/#!/SheernessTimesGuardian/posts/192929110721075 This is refering to a prominant pub building in the high street.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by manty on Jan 24, 2011 19:58:39 GMT 1, Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of s**t pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality.
Isle of sheppy?
Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of s**t pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality. Isle of sheppy?
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by manty on Jan 24, 2011 20:13:05 GMT 1, We have a guy that used to be in the financial services, and got made redundant when the Good ole business like Lehmans ruined the world.
He has set up a great business buying fruit and veg direct off the local farmers, all nice and fresh, and he delivers a mixed box to all our little houses, got a customer base of 600 odd, and at ยฃ16 a box everyones happy
We have a guy that used to be in the financial services, and got made redundant when the Good ole business like Lehmans ruined the world.
He has set up a great business buying fruit and veg direct off the local farmers, all nice and fresh, and he delivers a mixed box to all our little houses, got a customer base of 600 odd, and at ยฃ16 a box everyones happy
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 20:39:35 GMT 1, Where do you live Manty - if I could get all my family's fruit and veg for ยฃ16 per week (there's only 4 of us) then your supplier should franchise and take Tesco's on.....
What continues to piss me off is that Tesco (I live in Brentwood) has appeared to pull locals out of town to use the supermarket down the road a few miles, in the process making the High St very generic (ideal if you like Pizza and coffee, or both) then charging more in Tesco's 'Express', now there's an oxymoron, which they set up once they've financially conquered.
Where do you live Manty - if I could get all my family's fruit and veg for ยฃ16 per week (there's only 4 of us) then your supplier should franchise and take Tesco's on.....
What continues to piss me off is that Tesco (I live in Brentwood) has appeared to pull locals out of town to use the supermarket down the road a few miles, in the process making the High St very generic (ideal if you like Pizza and coffee, or both) then charging more in Tesco's 'Express', now there's an oxymoron, which they set up once they've financially conquered.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Coach on Jan 24, 2011 20:47:11 GMT 1, I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well.
I am afraid that I dont agree with you. Some shops wil recently have been suffering from online sales, but the cahnge in the landscape of our towns and cities has been going on for yyears and years. Bill Bryson deals with it very well in his book The Life and Tiomes of the Thunderbolt Kid, pointing out that in the 50's every town had its own diner, its own soda bar, its own dept store, and they were all unique, so different towns had their own identity. Now, you could plonk someone on the high street of any town and you would see all the same shops, all the same branding, even down to the same chairs in the coffee houses. It's a crying shame. Dave Gorman also references it in America Unchained, where he tried (and failed) to cross America, avoiding chain petrol stations and chain hotles. I suspect he would have struggled in the uK too. Interesting debate.
I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well. I am afraid that I dont agree with you. Some shops wil recently have been suffering from online sales, but the cahnge in the landscape of our towns and cities has been going on for yyears and years. Bill Bryson deals with it very well in his book The Life and Tiomes of the Thunderbolt Kid, pointing out that in the 50's every town had its own diner, its own soda bar, its own dept store, and they were all unique, so different towns had their own identity. Now, you could plonk someone on the high street of any town and you would see all the same shops, all the same branding, even down to the same chairs in the coffee houses. It's a crying shame. Dave Gorman also references it in America Unchained, where he tried (and failed) to cross America, avoiding chain petrol stations and chain hotles. I suspect he would have struggled in the uK too. Interesting debate.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 21:14:28 GMT 1, I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well. I am afraid that I dont agree with you. Some shops wil recently have been suffering from online sales, but the cahnge in the landscape of our towns and cities has been going on for yyears and years. Bill Bryson deals with it very well in his book The Life and Tiomes of the Thunderbolt Kid, pointing out that in the 50's every town had its own diner, its own soda bar, its own dept store, and they were all unique, so different towns had their own identity. Now, you could plonk someone on the high street of any town and you would see all the same shops, all the same branding, even down to the same chairs in the coffee houses. It's a crying shame. Dave Gorman also references it in America Unchained, where he tried (and failed) to cross America, avoiding chain petrol stations and chain hotles. I suspect he would have struggled in the uK too. Interesting debate.
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I think its easy to blame people like Tesco's for the death of the High Streets but really its the switch to people buying online that has really been the change. If you think about it even in this scene we have seem Galleries close their permanent spaces down, and are concentrating more to online sales. I think probably most local shops might have a chance at survival if they keep up with the times and invest in the online side of the business as well. I am afraid that I dont agree with you. Some shops wil recently have been suffering from online sales, but the cahnge in the landscape of our towns and cities has been going on for yyears and years. Bill Bryson deals with it very well in his book The Life and Tiomes of the Thunderbolt Kid, pointing out that in the 50's every town had its own diner, its own soda bar, its own dept store, and they were all unique, so different towns had their own identity. Now, you could plonk someone on the high street of any town and you would see all the same shops, all the same branding, even down to the same chairs in the coffee houses. It's a crying shame. Dave Gorman also references it in America Unchained, where he tried (and failed) to cross America, avoiding chain petrol stations and chain hotles. I suspect he would have struggled in the uK too. Interesting debate. lest we forget
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 21:32:18 GMT 1, Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of s**t pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality. Isle of sheppy?
When Boris continues with the plan (which he'll make out is his) to build a fucking great airport in the middle of the Thames then the Isle of Sheppy will be reborn.
They wouldn't have bothered building that bloody great bridge otherwise.
Can't ignore the march of the internet..............surely once Tesco get their arse in gear the 'superstores' will become no more than distribution centres. With fuel costs where they are and rising, there will be a critical commercial point where everyone down my road (and yours, resistance is futile) has their shopping delivered at the same time (ish) on the same day.
Tesco are terrible in my area, since moving in a number of years ago , there was a road created at the time , that bypasses the local town direct to Tesco, Now there are hardly any shops in my local area, and the town is full of s**t pubs aimed at piss heads and pound shops, and fast food take aways, , My town is in rapid declyn, but at the same time i brought from Tesco yeasterday, I live on a island and the time i could get to shops the only place oopen to me was Tesco Or it meant a min of 20mins drive to another superstore Asda, and Sainsburys, But on a whole i try to avoid Tesco and like, as much as possible infact it has been a NewYears resolution for us. Local Farm shop for Veg and salad, havent found a good butchers yet in my area though, so still on the look out but once found i will try to use as much as possible. I hate the fact that Tesco has helped to make my local high street void of any personality. Isle of sheppy? When Boris continues with the plan (which he'll make out is his) to build a fucking great airport in the middle of the Thames then the Isle of Sheppy will be reborn. They wouldn't have bothered building that bloody great bridge otherwise. Can't ignore the march of the internet..............surely once Tesco get their arse in gear the 'superstores' will become no more than distribution centres. With fuel costs where they are and rising, there will be a critical commercial point where everyone down my road (and yours, resistance is futile) has their shopping delivered at the same time (ish) on the same day.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by manty on Jan 24, 2011 21:44:54 GMT 1, When Boris continues with the plan (which he'll make out is his) to build a f**king great airport in the middle of the Thames then the Isle of Sheppy will be reborn. They wouldn't have bothered building that bloody great bridge otherwise. Can't ignore the march of the internet..............surely once Tesco get their arse in gear the 'superstores' will become no more than distribution centres. With fuel costs where they are and rising, there will be a critical commercial point where everyone down my road (and yours, resistance is futile) has their shopping delivered at the same time (ish) on the same day.
All rather depressing, Airport being proposed is about 5 miles from me,
Infrastructures in place, widened the roads, Ebbsfleets up and running. Will it happen? a lot of apathy around so possibly will, though the RSPB will have their say, and they have done pretty well so far.
Yep, we'll all have outside our little homes food storage bin as supplied by tesco with their logo spattered all over it, where the delivery driver can put our food in, we wont need to go to them, maybe once in a while order a little treat to be added to our set weekly shopping list. They can as a little thankyou lay off loads of staff, which is excellent news for the shareholders. Fucking perfect
When Boris continues with the plan (which he'll make out is his) to build a f**king great airport in the middle of the Thames then the Isle of Sheppy will be reborn. They wouldn't have bothered building that bloody great bridge otherwise. Can't ignore the march of the internet..............surely once Tesco get their arse in gear the 'superstores' will become no more than distribution centres. With fuel costs where they are and rising, there will be a critical commercial point where everyone down my road (and yours, resistance is futile) has their shopping delivered at the same time (ish) on the same day. All rather depressing, Airport being proposed is about 5 miles from me, Infrastructures in place, widened the roads, Ebbsfleets up and running. Will it happen? a lot of apathy around so possibly will, though the RSPB will have their say, and they have done pretty well so far. Yep, we'll all have outside our little homes food storage bin as supplied by tesco with their logo spattered all over it, where the delivery driver can put our food in, we wont need to go to them, maybe once in a while order a little treat to be added to our set weekly shopping list. They can as a little thankyou lay off loads of staff, which is excellent news for the shareholders. Fucking perfect
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by Deleted on Jan 24, 2011 22:03:37 GMT 1, I worked in a venue that hosted an exhibition by Tesco's on their proposed development on the edge of a struggling town centre. It was in the early 90's, during the last recession.
The concerns of the residents was that Tesco's would further contribute to the decline of their town. To combat this and to show how they understood these concerns, the company mounted a PR campaign to demonstrate how much they cared by allowing the residents the opportunity to vote on what they wanted built on the land surplus to the supermarkets requirements. The options given were housing,a bowling alley, a cinema, or a combination of these. Over the course of the week the residents came and viewed what was on offer, and resigned to defeat voted on what they thought was best for their town.
The box in which the votes were cast was never taken away when the exhibition was finished. I phoned the PR company to tell them it was left behind, but they did nothing. I anonymously phoned a local councillor, who in public objected to the plans, to tell him about Tesco's attitude and contempt for the residents he was supposed to serve. He did nothing. Suffice to say the council got a new community building once planning permission was granted.
Seventeen years on the town is still suffering, and its decline has been continual since Tesco's set up shop.
The world moves on, but this isn't progress. It's greed and selfishness.
I worked in a venue that hosted an exhibition by Tesco's on their proposed development on the edge of a struggling town centre. It was in the early 90's, during the last recession.
The concerns of the residents was that Tesco's would further contribute to the decline of their town. To combat this and to show how they understood these concerns, the company mounted a PR campaign to demonstrate how much they cared by allowing the residents the opportunity to vote on what they wanted built on the land surplus to the supermarkets requirements. The options given were housing,a bowling alley, a cinema, or a combination of these. Over the course of the week the residents came and viewed what was on offer, and resigned to defeat voted on what they thought was best for their town.
The box in which the votes were cast was never taken away when the exhibition was finished. I phoned the PR company to tell them it was left behind, but they did nothing. I anonymously phoned a local councillor, who in public objected to the plans, to tell him about Tesco's attitude and contempt for the residents he was supposed to serve. He did nothing. Suffice to say the council got a new community building once planning permission was granted.
Seventeen years on the town is still suffering, and its decline has been continual since Tesco's set up shop.
The world moves on, but this isn't progress. It's greed and selfishness.
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What's the deal with TESCO??, by colinfishwick on Jan 24, 2011 22:05:59 GMT 1, not sure that's the case Manty, a lot of the shareholders are staff i believe - isn't part of their package incentivised with share options?
not sure that's the case Manty, a lot of the shareholders are staff i believe - isn't part of their package incentivised with share options?
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