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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by fourputt on Jan 17, 2008 2:26:42 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Rabbitlegs on Jan 17, 2008 2:31:38 GMT 1, Good question Phan Thi Kim Phuc is her name.
I wonder what her views are on this image?
personally I would love her signature on mine
Good question Phan Thi Kim Phuc is her name.
I wonder what her views are on this image?
personally I would love her signature on mine
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by fartofthestate on Jan 17, 2008 4:43:58 GMT 1, Might be a bit heartless to do it, ESP if your doing in just for the money.
Fucking terrible mate to be honest!
Might be a bit heartless to do it, ESP if your doing in just for the money.
Fucking terrible mate to be honest!
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by kiki on Jan 17, 2008 8:37:12 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
Perhaps a little background and history is required here.
I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful.
Let's weigh it all up.
Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed.
Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country.
Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined).
The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation.
fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose?
This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed. |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by otomi on Jan 17, 2008 8:42:00 GMT 1, what would you do in her position
even if she understands and likes the print I don't think she will sign it
Now I'm glad I don't have the print I couldn't look at it right now.
Certainly a 'twist'.
what would you do in her position
even if she understands and likes the print I don't think she will sign it
Now I'm glad I don't have the print I couldn't look at it right now.
Certainly a 'twist'.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by rolyateel on Jan 17, 2008 9:06:30 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
yeah, what kiki said
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed. yeah, what kiki said |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Harveyn on Jan 17, 2008 10:13:39 GMT 1, Kiki
Very well put. I have never thought very long or heard about Banksy's Napalm print.
I must say your thoughts and words will make me look at it in a different light. One of sadness and horror rather than just the political message it has always represented to me. A reaction similar to the one the original photograph always brings.
Kiki
Very well put. I have never thought very long or heard about Banksy's Napalm print.
I must say your thoughts and words will make me look at it in a different light. One of sadness and horror rather than just the political message it has always represented to me. A reaction similar to the one the original photograph always brings.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Zippy on Jan 17, 2008 10:34:20 GMT 1, Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum.
Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it.
Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss.
I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house!
However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her.
Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print.
Z
Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum.
Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it.
Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss.
I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house!
However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her.
Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print.
Z
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by fartofthestate on Jan 17, 2008 10:39:35 GMT 1, Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it. Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z
Get her to sign the Mount.
Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it. Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z Get her to sign the Mount. |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by loucastel on Jan 17, 2008 10:40:52 GMT 1, This is one print I would never buy, even if I was given it , no way would it go on the wall, The message it portrays is bang on, people tend to forget that the little girl in the middle was not a mock up ,or actor, it was real, I just cant begin to imagine the pain and suffering she went through, I think getting her signature on the print would bring absolutely nothing to the image apart fron saying to people, "see that little girl in the middle there is her signature" just a bit of one upmanship. She should be left alone to live her life in peace, but there again i'm just a soft a soft westerner!
This is one print I would never buy, even if I was given it , no way would it go on the wall, The message it portrays is bang on, people tend to forget that the little girl in the middle was not a mock up ,or actor, it was real, I just cant begin to imagine the pain and suffering she went through, I think getting her signature on the print would bring absolutely nothing to the image apart fron saying to people, "see that little girl in the middle there is her signature" just a bit of one upmanship. She should be left alone to live her life in peace, but there again i'm just a soft a soft westerner!
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by BONGO on Jan 17, 2008 10:42:21 GMT 1, THE QUESTION OF VALUE IN THIS DISCUSSION IS UTTERLY APPALLING.
BONGO TRIES NOT TO MAKE JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS, BUT THIS IS A SHOCKING SUGGESTION, EVEN FOR THEORETCAL DISCUSSION.
BONGO HAS COPY OF WALL & PIECE - WOULD BONGO HAVE BEEN INSENSITIVE TO HAVE TAKEN IT TO ISRAEL WHEN HE WENT TO THE GHETTO AND TRACKED DOWN CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS TO AUTOGRAPH THE BELSEN ACCOUNT MANIFESTO SECTION ?
IN BONGO OPINION, THE RESULT OF OF SUCH AUTOGRAPH WOULD MEAN THE PRINT IS DEVIOD OF ANY ARTISTIC WORTH WHATSOEVER.
THE QUESTION OF VALUE IN THIS DISCUSSION IS UTTERLY APPALLING.
BONGO TRIES NOT TO MAKE JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS, BUT THIS IS A SHOCKING SUGGESTION, EVEN FOR THEORETCAL DISCUSSION.
BONGO HAS COPY OF WALL & PIECE - WOULD BONGO HAVE BEEN INSENSITIVE TO HAVE TAKEN IT TO ISRAEL WHEN HE WENT TO THE GHETTO AND TRACKED DOWN CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS TO AUTOGRAPH THE BELSEN ACCOUNT MANIFESTO SECTION ?
IN BONGO OPINION, THE RESULT OF OF SUCH AUTOGRAPH WOULD MEAN THE PRINT IS DEVIOD OF ANY ARTISTIC WORTH WHATSOEVER.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by manty on Jan 17, 2008 10:45:04 GMT 1, Kiki
Thanks for explaining the background
Kiki
Thanks for explaining the background
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by frank11 on Jan 17, 2008 10:51:40 GMT 1, Really upsetting to think that anyone would be as crass as to ask for Kim Phuc to look at the print let alone sign it.
Really upsetting to think that anyone would be as crass as to ask for Kim Phuc to look at the print let alone sign it.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by guest2 on Jan 17, 2008 10:58:17 GMT 1, ... I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? ...
Or if her or one of her mates use the bottom left hand corner as roach paper for a big fat doobie!
... I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? ... Or if her or one of her mates use the bottom left hand corner as roach paper for a big fat doobie! |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by manchestermike on Jan 17, 2008 11:06:06 GMT 1, My least favourite banksy... Could never have it on my wall.
It has a strong message, but it is an very poor quality print, I know a fair few Banksys aren't great quality, but this one is particularly bad. Just aesthetically I wouldn't want it up although the message wouldn't stop me from doing so.
My least favourite banksy... Could never have it on my wall. It has a strong message, but it is an very poor quality print, I know a fair few Banksys aren't great quality, but this one is particularly bad. Just aesthetically I wouldn't want it up although the message wouldn't stop me from doing so. |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by gozgoz on Jan 17, 2008 11:32:15 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
whew. word to yo momma!
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phรบc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phรบc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phรบc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phรบc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phรบc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phรบc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phรบc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phรบc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed. whew. word to yo momma! |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by ejvaze on Jan 17, 2008 13:08:52 GMT 1, Thanks Kiki for the info
I agree with BONGO
Thanks Kiki for the info
I agree with BONGO
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by fourputt on Jan 17, 2008 16:47:55 GMT 1, WOW, I knew there would be some backlash to my post, but it was a completely rhetorical question. As I said in the original post. I would never do it. For those who negged me, bravo, you certainly have taught me a lesson! I thought forums were for the open trade of thoughts and discussion. I guess I should just stick to asking questions about which framer to use or post pics of my horribly framed prints.
WOW, I knew there would be some backlash to my post, but it was a completely rhetorical question. As I said in the original post. I would never do it. For those who negged me, bravo, you certainly have taught me a lesson! I thought forums were for the open trade of thoughts and discussion. I guess I should just stick to asking questions about which framer to use or post pics of my horribly framed prints.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by sm on Jan 17, 2008 16:53:44 GMT 1, one of my favouirte banksy prints, would love to have one. I have to agree with the majority of posts, It would be very disrespectful to get this signed. Phan Thi Kim Phuc is not a celebrity but a victim of war, she should be teated with respect. Having her autograph anything for profit is sickening.
one of my favouirte banksy prints, would love to have one. I have to agree with the majority of posts, It would be very disrespectful to get this signed. Phan Thi Kim Phuc is not a celebrity but a victim of war, she should be teated with respect. Having her autograph anything for profit is sickening.
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by Run Pig Run on Jan 17, 2008 18:58:00 GMT 1, WOW, I knew there would be some backlash to my post, but it was a completely rhetorical question. As I said in the original post. I would never do it. For those who negged me, bravo, you certainly have taught me a lesson! I thought forums were for the open trade of thoughts and discussion. I guess I should just stick to asking questions about which framer to use or post pics of my horribly framed prints.
there are hundreds of sick subjects we choose not to discuss. this is because on the whole we are not all weird sickos and these thoughts don't enter our heads.
post what you like, but don't expect people to agree with you
WOW, I knew there would be some backlash to my post, but it was a completely rhetorical question. As I said in the original post. I would never do it. For those who negged me, bravo, you certainly have taught me a lesson! I thought forums were for the open trade of thoughts and discussion. I guess I should just stick to asking questions about which framer to use or post pics of my horribly framed prints. there are hundreds of sick subjects we choose not to discuss. this is because on the whole we are not all weird sickos and these thoughts don't enter our heads. post what you like, but don't expect people to agree with you |
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curiousgeorge
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by curiousgeorge on Jan 17, 2008 19:29:44 GMT 1, I must be alone in thinking that her image should never be in a print, no matter what the message being conveyed is???
I must be alone in thinking that her image should never be in a print, no matter what the message being conveyed is???
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BONGO
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by BONGO on Jan 17, 2008 20:34:55 GMT 1, I must be alone in thinking that her image should never be in a print, no matter what the message being conveyed is???
BONGO THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN ART
BONGO WARY OF ANY PROHIBITION TO CREATIVITY. IT IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO SET.
BONGO ALSO BELIEVES THAT THIS DEGREE OF FREEDOM CARRIES A GREAT BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY
BONGO THINK THAT THIS IS NOT UNLIKE FREE SPEECH - WHERE THE AVAILABILITY TO EXPRESS A VIEWPOINT FREELY IS NOT A LICENCE TO SPREAD HATE - JUDGEMENT IS IMPORTANT
BONGO BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE IS RECOGNISABLE TO A MINDSET, A PLACE AND A TIME - THE IMAGE IS NOT IMPORTANT IN ITSELF , BUT THE BAGGAGE THAT IT CARRIES IS KEY TO ITS IMPACT
I must be alone in thinking that her image should never be in a print, no matter what the message being conveyed is??? BONGO THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AVAILABLE IN ART BONGO WARY OF ANY PROHIBITION TO CREATIVITY. IT IS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT TO SET. BONGO ALSO BELIEVES THAT THIS DEGREE OF FREEDOM CARRIES A GREAT BURDEN OF RESPONSIBILITY BONGO THINK THAT THIS IS NOT UNLIKE FREE SPEECH - WHERE THE AVAILABILITY TO EXPRESS A VIEWPOINT FREELY IS NOT A LICENCE TO SPREAD HATE - JUDGEMENT IS IMPORTANT BONGO BELIEVE THAT THIS PARTICULAR IMAGE IS RECOGNISABLE TO A MINDSET, A PLACE AND A TIME - THE IMAGE IS NOT IMPORTANT IN ITSELF , BUT THE BAGGAGE THAT IT CARRIES IS KEY TO ITS IMPACT |
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pezlow
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by pezlow on Jan 17, 2008 20:50:24 GMT 1, I'm thinking of dipping my Love rat in pure rat's blood. Do you reckon it would increase it's value?
I'm thinking of dipping my Love rat in pure rat's blood. Do you reckon it would increase it's value?
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tintin
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by tintin on Jan 17, 2008 20:57:15 GMT 1, Reminds me about the controversy behind the original photo behind this artwork, but I think Dolks representation is brilliant.
If this now dead guy as any remaining family would you think of asking his children to sign the photograph?
Reminds me about the controversy behind the original photo behind this artwork, but I think Dolks representation is brilliant. If this now dead guy as any remaining family would you think of asking his children to sign the photograph? |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by kiki on Jan 17, 2008 21:40:12 GMT 1, Reminds me about the controversy behind the original photo behind this artwork, but I think Dolks representation is brilliant. If this now dead guy as any remaining family would you think of asking his children to sign the photograph?
Which dead guy do you mean? General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan or Nguyễn Vรฃn Lรฉm (whose execution, in my view and under the circumstances, was completely justified)?
Reminds me about the controversy behind the original photo behind this artwork, but I think Dolks representation is brilliant. If this now dead guy as any remaining family would you think of asking his children to sign the photograph? Which dead guy do you mean? General Nguyễn Ngọc Loan or Nguyễn Vรฃn Lรฉm (whose execution, in my view and under the circumstances, was completely justified)? |
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tintin
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by tintin on Jan 17, 2008 21:44:54 GMT 1, In this case it's more tasteless to ask the children of the guy being shot, as this actually captures the moment.
I am fully aware of the ins and outs of this picture (that the photographer regrets taking it and that it directly caused the death of the guy doing the shooting)
In this case it's more tasteless to ask the children of the guy being shot, as this actually captures the moment.
I am fully aware of the ins and outs of this picture (that the photographer regrets taking it and that it directly caused the death of the guy doing the shooting)
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bigstrunso
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by bigstrunso on Jan 17, 2008 21:49:50 GMT 1,
What's the story behind this image? Why was he executed?
What's the story behind this image? Why was he executed?
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tintin
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by tintin on Jan 17, 2008 21:52:49 GMT 1, The prisoner of war was captured after shooting dead some Americans, and was instantly executed. This of course is not 'playing by the rules' so the photograph played a part in sentencing the shooter to death.
The prisoner of war was captured after shooting dead some Americans, and was instantly executed. This of course is not 'playing by the rules' so the photograph played a part in sentencing the shooter to death.
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bigstrunso
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by bigstrunso on Jan 17, 2008 21:58:32 GMT 1, The prisoner of war was captured after shooting dead some Americans, and was instantly executed. This of course is not 'playing by the rules' so the photograph played a part in sentencing the shooter to death.
So, the guy with the gun pointed at his head had shot and killed a few Americans?
The prisoner of war was captured after shooting dead some Americans, and was instantly executed. This of course is not 'playing by the rules' so the photograph played a part in sentencing the shooter to death. So, the guy with the gun pointed at his head had shot and killed a few Americans? |
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Banksy โข Napalm Print, by tintin on Jan 17, 2008 22:04:49 GMT 1, Eddie Adams was the photographer..
"The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them; but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths.
What the photograph didn't say was, 'What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American people?"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Adams_(photographer)
He was also responsible for this shot
digitaljournalist.org/issue0410/adams01.html
digitaljournalist.org/issue0410/adams_thumbs.html
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