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Banksy • Napalm Print, by lesroy on Mar 6, 2007 20:02:42 GMT 1, Right, I have seen a few of the AP's for Banksy's "Napalm" but I certainly haven't seen them all.
Could you post any pics of them on this thread for us all to see as the recent one on ebay was just stunning!
If anyone has a link to a pic of all the original AP colours then that would be even better
Here's some:
Right, I have seen a few of the AP's for Banksy's "Napalm" but I certainly haven't seen them all. Could you post any pics of them on this thread for us all to see as the recent one on ebay was just stunning! If anyone has a link to a pic of all the original AP colours then that would be even better Here's some:
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by lesroy on Mar 7, 2007 19:48:21 GMT 1, This little beaut came from "Rabbitlegs"... ps... I got your message and will do the Radar Rat tonight
This little beaut came from "Rabbitlegs"... ps... I got your message and will do the Radar Rat tonight
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by cosmic on Mar 8, 2007 4:15:36 GMT 1,
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by lesroy on Mar 9, 2007 20:41:34 GMT 1, c'mon people post more pics for us!
c'mon people post more pics for us!
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by pastiepie on Mar 10, 2007 0:54:11 GMT 1, The "can't we all just get along" AP 1/1
The "can't we all just get along" AP 1/1
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by nickenrite on Mar 11, 2007 4:57:39 GMT 1, man he shoul do the graphics for snowboard or ski companies!!!
man he shoul do the graphics for snowboard or ski companies!!!
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by paulypaul on Oct 12, 2007 17:42:50 GMT 1, How much is this print worth Numbered But Not Signed
Whatever someone will pay for it....
See todays Bloomsbury auctions....
How much is this print worth Numbered But Not Signed Whatever someone will pay for it.... See todays Bloomsbury auctions....
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Dead Elvis on Oct 13, 2007 4:48:22 GMT 1, How much is this print worth Numbered But Not Signed
To me, $1800 USD.
How much is this print worth Numbered But Not Signed To me, $1800 USD.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by craigf on Oct 13, 2007 12:55:35 GMT 1, £1,000 to £1,200 seems the going eBay rate
£1,000 to £1,200 seems the going eBay rate
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 16, 2007 21:40:35 GMT 1, Can anyone send me some really clear closeups of their Napalm. Especially the blindstamp and the colour / quality of paper.
I have bought an unsigned the paper is very white and the stamp looks fine, the image is very pixelated and it all looks fine, I just want to compare to a few others.
Its the mustardy yellow on grey.
Cheers
C
Can anyone send me some really clear closeups of their Napalm. Especially the blindstamp and the colour / quality of paper.
I have bought an unsigned the paper is very white and the stamp looks fine, the image is very pixelated and it all looks fine, I just want to compare to a few others.
Its the mustardy yellow on grey.
Cheers
C
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by moonstomp on Oct 16, 2007 22:22:04 GMT 1, Sorry not great as no natural light at the moment but...
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by alvington89 on Oct 17, 2007 1:06:39 GMT 1, Incedentally, not all of them had the blind POW stamp.
Incedentally, not all of them had the blind POW stamp.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by meatbag on Oct 17, 2007 2:49:30 GMT 1, it's widely known that this print never had great quality to start.
it's widely known that this print never had great quality to start.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by themightyreds on Oct 17, 2007 7:56:14 GMT 1, it's widely known that this print never had great quality to start.
certainly looks quality enough for my walls!!
it's widely known that this print never had great quality to start. certainly looks quality enough for my walls!!
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Cocteau 101 on Oct 17, 2007 21:18:42 GMT 1, Cheers Guys
Everything looks fine, panic over.
C
Cheers Guys
Everything looks fine, panic over.
C
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by fourputt on Jan 17, 2008 2:26:42 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Rabbitlegs on Jan 17, 2008 2:31:38 GMT 1, Good question Phan Thi Kim Phuc is her name. I wonder what her views are on this image? personally I would love her signature on mine
Good question Phan Thi Kim Phuc is her name. I wonder what her views are on this image? personally I would love her signature on mine
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by fartofthestate on Jan 17, 2008 4:43:58 GMT 1, Might be a bit heartless to do it, ESP if your doing in just for the money. Fucking terrible mate to be honest!
Might be a bit heartless to do it, ESP if your doing in just for the money. Fucking terrible mate to be honest!
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by kiki on Jan 17, 2008 8:37:12 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum.
Perhaps a little background and history is required here.
I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phúc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phúc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful.
Let's weigh it all up.
Kim Phúc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed.
Years later, Kim Phúc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country.
Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phúc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phúc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined).
The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phúc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation.
fourputt - If you were in Kim Phúc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose?
This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phúc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phúc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phúc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phúc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phúc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phúc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phúc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phúc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by otomi on Jan 17, 2008 8:42:00 GMT 1, what would you do in her position
even if she understands and likes the print I don't think she will sign it
Now I'm glad I don't have the print I couldn't look at it right now.
Certainly a 'twist'.
what would you do in her position
even if she understands and likes the print I don't think she will sign it
Now I'm glad I don't have the print I couldn't look at it right now.
Certainly a 'twist'.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by rolyateel on Jan 17, 2008 9:06:30 GMT 1, Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phúc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phúc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phúc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phúc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phúc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phúc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phúc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phúc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed.
yeah, what kiki said
Here's a question. If it were possible to get the girl in Banksy's "Napalm" to sign a copy of the print, how would it affect the value? Increase, decrease, destroy? I know that she lives in the same general area of Canada as I do. She moved here after the war and gives interviews regularly. So it would not be too hard to track her down, I assume. I have no intention of doing this. Looked at my copy today and thought it might make for some good debate on the forum. Perhaps a little background and history is required here. I have always been slightly uncomfortable with Phan Thị Kim Phúc's image in the 'Napalm' screenprint and the subsequent 'Can't Beat The Feeling' canvas commissioned by Hirst. Although the irony of the juxtaposition in those pieces is clear, the use of Kim Phúc is also flippant and, arguably, disrespectful. Let's weigh it all up. Kim Phúc suffered from severe and life-threatening burns following a napalm attack. Although permanently scarred, she survived from her injuries following close to 20 surgical operations. During the same attack, many of her fellow villagers and a couple of her family members were killed. Years later, Kim Phúc escaped from the communist and then totalitarian regime of Vietnam. She defected, sought and was granted political asylum in Canada, a democratic and capitalist country which no doubt represented to her the freedom she never had in her own country. Nick Ut's 1972 photograph of Kim Phúc running naked down a road screaming and burning is one of the most recognised photos of the Vietnam War. For many people, it symbolises the horrors of that war. For Kim Phúc, it is a very personal reminder of the physical and psychological trauma she and her family experienced first hand, during the Vietnam War itself and probably during its aftermath once the country was reunified under communist rule and hundreds of thousands of South Vietnamese were sent to 'reeducation camps' (one of the most brilliant euphemisms ever coined). The context of Ut's photograph is then turned on its head when Banksy cuts out Kim Phúc's image and slaps it down next to Ronald and Mickey as an ironic comment on capitalism, consumerism and globalisation. fourputt - If you were in Kim Phúc's position, would you, given her background, be happy to sign a 'Napalm' print that was shoved under your nose? This situation is not the same as, say, asking Kate Moss to sign a Banksy 'Kate' screenprint. It is more akin to asking the lone protester who stood up to the tanks near Tiananmen Square in 1989 to sign a copy of 'Golf Sale'. Oh. That's right. He can't. He was probably tortured and then executed. yeah, what kiki said
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Harveyn on Jan 17, 2008 10:13:39 GMT 1, Kiki
Very well put. I have never thought very long or heard about Banksy's Napalm print.
I must say your thoughts and words will make me look at it in a different light. One of sadness and horror rather than just the political message it has always represented to me. A reaction similar to the one the original photograph always brings.
Kiki
Very well put. I have never thought very long or heard about Banksy's Napalm print.
I must say your thoughts and words will make me look at it in a different light. One of sadness and horror rather than just the political message it has always represented to me. A reaction similar to the one the original photograph always brings.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by Zippy on Jan 17, 2008 10:34:20 GMT 1, Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it.
Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z
Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it.
Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by fartofthestate on Jan 17, 2008 10:39:35 GMT 1, Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it. Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z
Get her to sign the Mount.
Kiki, thanks for making one of the more intelligent posts on this forum. Napalm is one of my favourite Banksy images as it provokes strong feeling and mixed reactions from whoever sees it. Funnily someone mentioned Kate Moss. I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? Or, if my friend has it stolen out of his car as he would need it for a few days as he's not sure when he would see her. Also, I have been told that even though It would make it more personal to me, it would detract and de-value the print. Z Get her to sign the Mount.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by loucastel on Jan 17, 2008 10:40:52 GMT 1, This is one print I would never buy, even if I was given it , no way would it go on the wall, The message it portrays is bang on, people tend to forget that the little girl in the middle was not a mock up ,or actor, it was real, I just cant begin to imagine the pain and suffering she went through, I think getting her signature on the print would bring absolutely nothing to the image apart fron saying to people, "see that little girl in the middle there is her signature" just a bit of one upmanship. She should be left alone to live her life in peace, but there again i'm just a soft a soft westerner!
This is one print I would never buy, even if I was given it , no way would it go on the wall, The message it portrays is bang on, people tend to forget that the little girl in the middle was not a mock up ,or actor, it was real, I just cant begin to imagine the pain and suffering she went through, I think getting her signature on the print would bring absolutely nothing to the image apart fron saying to people, "see that little girl in the middle there is her signature" just a bit of one upmanship. She should be left alone to live her life in peace, but there again i'm just a soft a soft westerner!
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by BONGO on Jan 17, 2008 10:42:21 GMT 1, THE QUESTION OF VALUE IN THIS DISCUSSION IS UTTERLY APPALLING.
BONGO TRIES NOT TO MAKE JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS, BUT THIS IS A SHOCKING SUGGESTION, EVEN FOR THEORETCAL DISCUSSION.
BONGO HAS COPY OF WALL & PIECE - WOULD BONGO HAVE BEEN INSENSITIVE TO HAVE TAKEN IT TO ISRAEL WHEN HE WENT TO THE GHETTO AND TRACKED DOWN CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS TO AUTOGRAPH THE BELSEN ACCOUNT MANIFESTO SECTION ?
IN BONGO OPINION, THE RESULT OF OF SUCH AUTOGRAPH WOULD MEAN THE PRINT IS DEVIOD OF ANY ARTISTIC WORTH WHATSOEVER.
THE QUESTION OF VALUE IN THIS DISCUSSION IS UTTERLY APPALLING.
BONGO TRIES NOT TO MAKE JUDGEMENT STATEMENTS, BUT THIS IS A SHOCKING SUGGESTION, EVEN FOR THEORETCAL DISCUSSION.
BONGO HAS COPY OF WALL & PIECE - WOULD BONGO HAVE BEEN INSENSITIVE TO HAVE TAKEN IT TO ISRAEL WHEN HE WENT TO THE GHETTO AND TRACKED DOWN CONCENTRATION CAMP SURVIVORS TO AUTOGRAPH THE BELSEN ACCOUNT MANIFESTO SECTION ?
IN BONGO OPINION, THE RESULT OF OF SUCH AUTOGRAPH WOULD MEAN THE PRINT IS DEVIOD OF ANY ARTISTIC WORTH WHATSOEVER.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by manty on Jan 17, 2008 10:45:04 GMT 1, Kiki
Thanks for explaining the background
Kiki
Thanks for explaining the background
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by frank11 on Jan 17, 2008 10:51:40 GMT 1, Really upsetting to think that anyone would be as crass as to ask for Kim Phuc to look at the print let alone sign it.
Really upsetting to think that anyone would be as crass as to ask for Kim Phuc to look at the print let alone sign it.
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Banksy • Napalm Print, by guest2 on Jan 17, 2008 10:58:17 GMT 1, ... I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? ...
Or if her or one of her mates use the bottom left hand corner as roach paper for a big fat doobie!
... I own a kate moss colourway and have been told that Kate will sign it for me (Laz also has one signed by her). She also has a colourway print in her house! However, I then worried about how I get it to her. I would need to give it to a friend who would get her to sign it. What happens if she creases/damages the print or her pen slips across the whole print? ... Or if her or one of her mates use the bottom left hand corner as roach paper for a big fat doobie!
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