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swap my lv child 4, by finsburyparkranger on Jul 4, 2007 19:27:29 GMT 1, I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO
I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO.
I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO. |
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swap my lv child 4, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 19:31:19 GMT 1, I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO.
(hic) ;D
I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO. (hic) ;D |
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swap my lv child 4, by corblimeylimey on Jul 4, 2007 19:37:10 GMT 1, Personnally I just think the Mantis is going to be worth a lot more than the u/s LV so not a fair trade. i'll revisit this in a year or two, but I see the unsigned LV Child absolutely destroying the Mantis print in terms of value...
No way IMO.
The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs.
Personnally I just think the Mantis is going to be worth a lot more than the u/s LV so not a fair trade. i'll revisit this in a year or two, but I see the unsigned LV Child absolutely destroying the Mantis print in terms of value... No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs. |
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swap my lv child 4, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 19:39:30 GMT 1, i'll revisit this in a year or two, but I see the unsigned LV Child absolutely destroying the Mantis print in terms of value... No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs.
Print run numbers don't always come into it IMO, look at Flying Copper, Flags etc
i'll revisit this in a year or two, but I see the unsigned LV Child absolutely destroying the Mantis print in terms of value... No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs. Print run numbers don't always come into it IMO, look at Flying Copper, Flags etc |
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swap my lv child 4, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 19:45:05 GMT 1, It doesn't even seem that signatures comes into either nowadays. Just look at an unsigned banksy compared to signed zbiok. Ultimately, when you take investors out of the equsion it all comes down to the image. And in my opinion LV is one hell of an image.
It doesn't even seem that signatures comes into either nowadays. Just look at an unsigned banksy compared to signed zbiok. Ultimately, when you take investors out of the equsion it all comes down to the image. And in my opinion LV is one hell of an image.
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swap my lv child 4, by insite on Jul 4, 2007 19:48:49 GMT 1, has everyones unsigned lv child arrived yet? or are people still waiting? cheers
Mine's not arrived yet.
has everyones unsigned lv child arrived yet? or are people still waiting? cheers Mine's not arrived yet. |
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swap my lv child 4, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 19:49:01 GMT 1, Some might say 'polictically predictable'
Some might say 'polictically predictable'
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swap my lv child 4, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 19:55:07 GMT 1, What are you refering to when you say 'polictically predictable'
What are you refering to when you say 'polictically predictable'
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swap my lv child 4, by discoduster on Jul 4, 2007 19:58:14 GMT 1, What are you refering to when you say 'polictically predictable'
Work it out
What are you refering to when you say 'polictically predictable' Work it out |
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swap my lv child 4, by mose on Jul 4, 2007 19:58:51 GMT 1, No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs.
the run numbers don't really interest me, scarcity is not the driving factor in the comparison, although it is easy to get distracted by.
IMO, Beejoir's work has, and will continue, to draw far more interest because it is of higher quality. With LV Child being his landmark piece, i see it rising consistently, and considerably, over the next several years.
The Mantis print is, again in my opinion, not very good and will be in dusty tubes under people's beds in 2 years....
No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs. the run numbers don't really interest me, scarcity is not the driving factor in the comparison, although it is easy to get distracted by. IMO, Beejoir's work has, and will continue, to draw far more interest because it is of higher quality. With LV Child being his landmark piece, i see it rising consistently, and considerably, over the next several years. The Mantis print is, again in my opinion, not very good and will be in dusty tubes under people's beds in 2 years.... |
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swap my lv child 4, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 20:00:40 GMT 1, I would rather you tell me as I don't really want to make a tit out of myself ;D
I would rather you tell me as I don't really want to make a tit out of myself ;D
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swap my lv child 4, by Curley on Jul 4, 2007 20:01:11 GMT 1, I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO.
could not have put that better if i tried... ;D ;D
still waiting on my LV child...postman better beware 
I personally think that LV child is a far more intelligent image than the mantis print. Not to say that I don't the mantis print. It is so hard to come up with such an iconic image, but I think that LV is the icon of icons. IMO I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO. could not have put that better if i tried... ;D ;D still waiting on my LV child...postman better beware |
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swap my lv child 4, by finsburyparkranger on Jul 4, 2007 20:07:10 GMT 1, I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO. could not have put that better if i tried... ;D ;D still waiting on my LV child...postman better beware
Cheers Curley  , still awaiting on mine too. Fingers crossed.
I think LV child is a bloody masterpiece. Saying that as an image its best found on the wall outside as a statement to the crowds and does lose its sincerity when homed in a half a million pound house. The Mantis on the other hand is not so clever or even as well executed IMO but it sits guilt free in large gold fame and is a healthy reminder for every home of the horror of war whilst oddly being a pleasing image. Although its a bit unfair to pit them against each other. They're both great examples political street art and both should be celebrated IMO. could not have put that better if i tried... ;D ;D still waiting on my LV child...postman better beware Cheers Curley , still awaiting on mine too. Fingers crossed. |
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swap my lv child 4, by corblimeylimey on Jul 4, 2007 20:36:20 GMT 1, No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs. the run numbers don't really interest me, scarcity is not the driving factor in the comparison, although it is easy to get distracted by. IMO, Beejoir's work has, and will continue, to draw far more interest because it is of higher quality. With LV Child being his landmark piece, i see it rising consistently, and considerably, over the next several years. The Mantis print is, again in my opinion, not very good and will be in dusty tubes under people's beds in 2 years....
I guess we'll have to wait and see, I didn't go for an LV Child because although I think it's a great piece of art, it's not one I can live with easily, as for money the serious LV money will be in the original very limited signed run IMO
But the future value isn't very important, both the LV Child (unsigned) and All Fall Down are both great images for different reasons and both were very affordable in the first instance, so if you like it you can't go wrong 
No way IMO. The fact that there's 400 LV's around compared to 77, LV is unsigned whereas AFD is signed, and the AFD is a less controversial easier to live with image. They'll be quite a few LVs coming up on ebay quite often, but that won't be the case with the AFDs. the run numbers don't really interest me, scarcity is not the driving factor in the comparison, although it is easy to get distracted by. IMO, Beejoir's work has, and will continue, to draw far more interest because it is of higher quality. With LV Child being his landmark piece, i see it rising consistently, and considerably, over the next several years. The Mantis print is, again in my opinion, not very good and will be in dusty tubes under people's beds in 2 years.... I guess we'll have to wait and see, I didn't go for an LV Child because although I think it's a great piece of art, it's not one I can live with easily, as for money the serious LV money will be in the original very limited signed run IMO But the future value isn't very important, both the LV Child (unsigned) and All Fall Down are both great images for different reasons and both were very affordable in the first instance, so if you like it you can't go wrong |
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swap my lv child 4, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 21:17:36 GMT 1,
I don't think LV Child is a political image. I also don't think that it is having a go at Louis Vuitton and large companies although that's what some people instantly may think.
It's having a go at society and people. That little boy has no clue what Louis Vuitton is. He is only interested in other fundamental things that we take for granted. It forces you to put your material ife into perspective. It makes you question why we are not content with things we have got. It basically cuts through all the bullshit and makes everyone's whinning and complaining seem like a joke.
I could be wrong, but hats what I think it means.
I don't think LV Child is a political image. I also don't think that it is having a go at Louis Vuitton and large companies although that's what some people instantly may think.
It's having a go at society and people. That little boy has no clue what Louis Vuitton is. He is only interested in other fundamental things that we take for granted. It forces you to put your material ife into perspective. It makes you question why we are not content with things we have got. It basically cuts through all the bullshit and makes everyone's whinning and complaining seem like a joke.
I could be wrong, but hats what I think it means.
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swap my lv child 4, by alderevans2007 on Jul 4, 2007 21:20:02 GMT 1, Also, I am not sure that you were even refering to this anyway. So sorry if you weren't
Also, I am not sure that you were even refering to this anyway. So sorry if you weren't
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swap my lv child 4, by funster on Jul 5, 2007 10:18:51 GMT 1, My LV Child arrived last week and I can only guess it was like the early days when people bought a Banksy purely because they loved it. Its now one of my fave prints and I guess also like the early Banksy days the price isn't important to me coz a) the most I can loose on its value is £30 and b) its not going to ever be sold!
My LV Child arrived last week and I can only guess it was like the early days when people bought a Banksy purely because they loved it. Its now one of my fave prints and I guess also like the early Banksy days the price isn't important to me coz a) the most I can loose on its value is £30 and b) its not going to ever be sold! |
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swap my lv child 4, by corblimeylimey on Jul 5, 2007 10:38:34 GMT 1, Respect fun10ver, that's the right attitude, and really it applies to all prints around £100 or less, you can't go wrong if you like the image
This investment/value interest IMO only really kicks in when you're starting to spend towards £1000 or more, IMO that's BIG money and decisions and loses of that size can't be taken lightly
Respect fun10ver, that's the right attitude, and really it applies to all prints around £100 or less, you can't go wrong if you like the image This investment/value interest IMO only really kicks in when you're starting to spend towards £1000 or more, IMO that's BIG money and decisions and loses of that size can't be taken lightly |
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, still awaiting on mine too. Fingers crossed.
