Grubster
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What If ?, by Grubster on Oct 22, 2008 2:41:30 GMT 1, Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: What if the presidential candidates exchanged place?
Think about it.
Would the country's collective point of view be
different?
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage,
including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage
daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama had finished fifth from the bottom of his
graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was divorced?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after she
was severely disfigured in a car accident?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had had a long
affair while he was still
married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain had graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had
been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as
part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s
and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn't read from a
teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer
distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as
close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative
qualities in another
when there is a color difference.
Educational Backgrounds
Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization
in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor
(J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894
of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general
study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Education isn't everything, but this is about the two
highest
offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.
You make the call.
Obama/Biden vs. McCain/Palin: What if the presidential candidates exchanged place?
Think about it.
Would the country's collective point of view be
different?
Ponder the following:
What if the Obamas had paraded five children across the stage,
including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage
daughter?
What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?
What if Barack Obama had finished fifth from the bottom of his
graduating class?
What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was divorced?
What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after she
was severely disfigured in a car accident?
What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had had a long
affair while he was still
married?
What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to
pain killers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable organization?
What if Cindy McCain had graduated from Harvard?
What if Obama had
been a member of the Keating Five?
(The Keating Five were five United States Senators accused of
corruption in 1989, igniting a major political scandal as
part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s
and early 1990s.)
What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?
What if Obama couldn't read from a
teleprompter?
What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included
discipline problems and a record of crashing seven planes?
What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on many
occasions, a serious anger management problem?
What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer
distribution?
What if the Obamas had adopted a white child?
You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected
reality, do you really believe the election numbers would be as
close as they are?
This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes
positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative
qualities in another
when there is a color difference.
Educational Backgrounds
Barack Obama:
Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization
in International Relations.
Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna Cum Laude
Joseph Biden:
University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political
Science.
Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor
(J.D.)
vs.
John McCain:
United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894
of 899
Sarah Palin:
Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester
North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general
study
University of Idaho - 2 semesters - journalism
Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester
University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism
Education isn't everything, but this is about the two
highest
offices in the land as well as our standing in the world.
You make the call.
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What If ?, by manty on Oct 22, 2008 6:25:50 GMT 1, Who are these 2 people, and whats their art like ?
Who are these 2 people, and whats their art like ?
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pokerdonp
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What If ?, by pokerdonp on Oct 22, 2008 8:12:53 GMT 1, Who are these 2 people, and whats their art like ?
;D ;D ;D
Who are these 2 people, and whats their art like ? ;D ;D ;D
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What If ?, by graeme501 on Oct 22, 2008 8:14:14 GMT 1, boring one sided propaganda
boring one sided propaganda
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What If ?, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 8:22:21 GMT 1, who cares! we have enough to deal with Mr Brown fucking us over!
who cares! we have enough to deal with Mr Brown fucking us over!
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What If ?, by They call me Stephen on Oct 22, 2008 9:47:46 GMT 1, read the first few lines, too many what ifs.
what if i was banksy...that would be cool
read the first few lines, too many what ifs. what if i was banksy...that would be cool
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What If ?, by manchestermike on Oct 22, 2008 10:02:30 GMT 1, What if the what ifs get me?
What if the what ifs get me?
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What If ?, by They call me Stephen on Oct 22, 2008 10:03:35 GMT 1, what if mike, what if??
what if mike, what if??
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dmandpenfold
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What If ?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 22, 2008 10:30:47 GMT 1, .....Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call.
tosh and pish.....
why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
.....Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. tosh and pish..... why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
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Grubster
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What If ?, by Grubster on Oct 22, 2008 15:49:05 GMT 1, wooooooooooo... sorry about this, didnt know it would affect every1 in such a negative way. I guess politics and art dont go together.... Clowns.
The point behind this is a race and thought it was a bit interesting but I guess i should of known that anything Obama was going to get shot down.
Whoe cares? how about the rest of the world, especially UK, I mean whatever the US does DEFINITELY effects the UK. Almost everything the US does effects the world, thats why it's an important issue. Also another interesting point is Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter
wooooooooooo... sorry about this, didnt know it would affect every1 in such a negative way. I guess politics and art dont go together.... Clowns.
The point behind this is a race and thought it was a bit interesting but I guess i should of known that anything Obama was going to get shot down.
Whoe cares? how about the rest of the world, especially UK, I mean whatever the US does DEFINITELY effects the UK. Almost everything the US does effects the world, thats why it's an important issue. Also another interesting point is Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter
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What If ?, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 15:52:18 GMT 1, what if....... this thread disapeared.
what if....... this thread disapeared.
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jfury
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What If ?, by jfury on Oct 22, 2008 15:53:49 GMT 1, what if....... this thread disapeared.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
what if....... this thread disapeared. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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dmandpenfold
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What If ?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 22, 2008 15:57:36 GMT 1,
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Gurn
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What If ?, by Gurn on Oct 22, 2008 20:01:58 GMT 1, Whoe cares? how about the rest of the world, especially UK, I mean whatever the US does DEFINITELY effects the UK. Almost everything the US does effects the world, thats why it's an important issue. Also another interesting point is Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter
You're broadminded and clever enough to be president....Americans on this forum will be so proud of you.
Whoe cares? how about the rest of the world, especially UK, I mean whatever the US does DEFINITELY effects the UK. Almost everything the US does effects the world, thats why it's an important issue. Also another interesting point is Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter You're broadminded and clever enough to be president....Americans on this forum will be so proud of you.
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Grubster
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What If ?, by Grubster on Oct 22, 2008 20:48:14 GMT 1, i was being facetious... obv both countries decisions effect each other drastically
i was being facetious... obv both countries decisions effect each other drastically
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What If ?, by Deleted on Oct 22, 2008 21:43:29 GMT 1, Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter
Of course not! you just speak our language, try to take credit for some of our fantastic historical events ( coz the US dont have many of their own), steal names of our great cities and consider them your own ('new England' for gods sake, WE DONT LIVE IN PINK WOODEN HOUSES!!) and then of course, our cool artists which is why your here. Just a few off the top of my head!
Now take your useless, boring thread to 'whonextwilltakeoverandcontinuetomanhandleandbullytherestoftheworldandclaimitallastheirown.info'. You may get some interest there and leave us to enjoy our art and forget the shit thats going on around us for a while!!!
Cheers!!!
Nothing the UK does ever affects the US.. I can see why so bitter Of course not! you just speak our language, try to take credit for some of our fantastic historical events ( coz the US dont have many of their own), steal names of our great cities and consider them your own ('new England' for gods sake, WE DONT LIVE IN PINK WOODEN HOUSES!!) and then of course, our cool artists which is why your here. Just a few off the top of my head! Now take your useless, boring thread to 'whonextwilltakeoverandcontinuetomanhandleandbullytherestoftheworldandclaimitallastheirown.info'. You may get some interest there and leave us to enjoy our art and forget the shit thats going on around us for a while!!! Cheers!!!
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Grubster
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What If ?, by Grubster on Oct 22, 2008 22:52:31 GMT 1, Hey 1 trick, dollar short and day late... see above post.. it was Facetious comment obv you dont get it, derrrrrrrrr. and if you want me to take my useless boring thread somewhre else then why comment on it so long and hard? why read the entire post?
Hey 1 trick, dollar short and day late... see above post.. it was Facetious comment obv you dont get it, derrrrrrrrr. and if you want me to take my useless boring thread somewhre else then why comment on it so long and hard? why read the entire post?
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leumasdarnley
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What If ?, by leumasdarnley on Oct 23, 2008 2:09:26 GMT 1, what if this thread never died?
what if this thread never died?
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What If ?, by Guest on Oct 23, 2008 2:12:43 GMT 1, what if all threads were like this?
what if all threads were like this?
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jB
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What If ?, by jB on Oct 23, 2008 2:59:44 GMT 1, what if all threads were like this?
that would be the be all end all
what if all threads were like this? that would be the be all end all
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otomi
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What If ?, by otomi on Oct 23, 2008 6:45:41 GMT 1, exactly McCain and Palin's knowledge can be compared with the education people had 200 years ago - that is the problem. At least George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were not religious nuts. They did not believe that the earth was create 6000 years ago.
.....Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. tosh and pish..... why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
exactly McCain and Palin's knowledge can be compared with the education people had 200 years ago - that is the problem. At least George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were not religious nuts. They did not believe that the earth was create 6000 years ago. .....Education isn't everything, but this is about the two highest offices in the land as well as our standing in the world. You make the call. tosh and pish..... why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
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dmandpenfold
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What If ?, by dmandpenfold on Oct 23, 2008 10:10:28 GMT 1, You are correct neither was a religious 'nut' (although Lincoln's Parents were Calvinists), however both held religious beliefs and attended church often.
Both were supporters of religious tolerance and religious freedom, something which some writing in this thread obviously don't.
The point i made on education is that it doesn't take the formally educated man or woman to achieve great things, Lincoln and Washington were cited as examples of great Americans who achieved extraordinary things and started from humble backgrounds.
On the other hand you could cite Martin Luther King as another great American, he was well educated holding a PhD and twenty or so honorary Doctorates. He was also a profoundly religious man, he was a Doctor of theology and was a practicing baptist clergyman. He also believed strongly in civil rights and freedom of expression.
I don't believe McCain ever said that earth was created 6,000 years ago, Palin certainly is more fundamentalist in her views however. Obama is also a practicing Christian, so religious arguments are a bit pointless. You would expect the president of the USA to be Christian especially given that practicing Christians form a large proportion of the American electorate.
I'm agnostic by the way.
exactly McCain and Palin's knowledge can be compared with the education people had 200 years ago - that is the problem. At least George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were not religious nuts. They did not believe that the earth was create 6000 years ago. tosh and pish..... why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
You are correct neither was a religious 'nut' (although Lincoln's Parents were Calvinists), however both held religious beliefs and attended church often. Both were supporters of religious tolerance and religious freedom, something which some writing in this thread obviously don't. The point i made on education is that it doesn't take the formally educated man or woman to achieve great things, Lincoln and Washington were cited as examples of great Americans who achieved extraordinary things and started from humble backgrounds. On the other hand you could cite Martin Luther King as another great American, he was well educated holding a PhD and twenty or so honorary Doctorates. He was also a profoundly religious man, he was a Doctor of theology and was a practicing baptist clergyman. He also believed strongly in civil rights and freedom of expression. I don't believe McCain ever said that earth was created 6,000 years ago, Palin certainly is more fundamentalist in her views however. Obama is also a practicing Christian, so religious arguments are a bit pointless. You would expect the president of the USA to be Christian especially given that practicing Christians form a large proportion of the American electorate. I'm agnostic by the way. exactly McCain and Palin's knowledge can be compared with the education people had 200 years ago - that is the problem. At least George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were not religious nuts. They did not believe that the earth was create 6000 years ago. tosh and pish..... why dont you check out the education background of these two reasonably well known Americans; George Washington and Abraham Lincoln....that might help you find an answer to a few of your 'what ifs'
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