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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Tommy Tucker on Apr 23, 2020 17:34:59 GMT 1, Hey guys,
I'm searching for these:
Warhol - Zebra & Ram Harland Miller - Don't Let the Bastards Cheer You Up & I'll Never Forget What I Can Remember
I Know Warhol isn't Urban Art but I know there are a lot of collectors on here.
Hey guys,
I'm searching for these:
Warhol - Zebra & Ram Harland Miller - Don't Let the Bastards Cheer You Up & I'll Never Forget What I Can Remember
I Know Warhol isn't Urban Art but I know there are a lot of collectors on here.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by docean on Apr 23, 2020 18:28:16 GMT 1, heller could probably help you out with the Warhol
heller could probably help you out with the Warhol
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Quinnster on Apr 23, 2020 21:27:19 GMT 1, heller could probably help you out with the Warhol
Doubt there would be a profit for him if he brought from a gallery, heโs a dealer....
heller could probably help you out with the Warhol Doubt there would be a profit for him if he brought from a gallery, heโs a dealer....
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by docean on Apr 23, 2020 21:34:25 GMT 1, heller could probably help you out with the Warhol Doubt there would be a profit for him if he brought from a gallery, heโs a dealer.... didn't know Tommy Tucker was one. thought he was just looking for personal pieces, not to make profit
heller could probably help you out with the Warhol Doubt there would be a profit for him if he brought from a gallery, heโs a dealer.... didn't know Tommy Tucker was one. thought he was just looking for personal pieces, not to make profit
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by heller on Apr 24, 2020 20:08:14 GMT 1, The only Endangered Species works we currently have in stock is the Siberian Tiger EP of 5.
Timeless Warhol's like the ones he is searching for are becoming much more difficult to obtain in resell-able condition. I would reach out to Ron at Revolver Gallery.
When it comes to Warhol, there is no dealer price or affiliate price, you will pay a negotiated retail price and literally hang your money on the wall. When your ready to take the works down, based over the sales history of the last decade, Timeless Warhol Images should continue to raise in value.
The only Endangered Species works we currently have in stock is the Siberian Tiger EP of 5.
Timeless Warhol's like the ones he is searching for are becoming much more difficult to obtain in resell-able condition. I would reach out to Ron at Revolver Gallery.
When it comes to Warhol, there is no dealer price or affiliate price, you will pay a negotiated retail price and literally hang your money on the wall. When your ready to take the works down, based over the sales history of the last decade, Timeless Warhol Images should continue to raise in value.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Tommy Tucker on Apr 26, 2020 20:54:00 GMT 1, I need Ram, Zebra and Flowers 65
I need Ram, Zebra and Flowers 65
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by artaddict1 on May 17, 2020 21:29:27 GMT 1, bump
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by artdelight on Jul 14, 2020 15:02:30 GMT 1, Is it worth buying original prints or itโs price is in bubble?
Is it worth buying original prints or itโs price is in bubble?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Express Post on Jul 14, 2020 15:08:57 GMT 1, Which artist?
Is it worth buying original prints or itโs price is in bubble?
Which artist? Is it worth buying original prints or itโs price is in bubble?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by The Italian One on Jul 14, 2020 15:11:23 GMT 1, think he is asking for Banksy's prints
think he is asking for Banksy's prints
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by medichead on Jul 14, 2020 15:40:52 GMT 1, think he is asking for Banksy's prints Presumably, since he/she posted in the Andy Warhol section, that's what they're after...?
think he is asking for Banksy's prints Presumably, since he/she posted in the Andy Warhol section, that's what they're after...?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by The Italian One on Jul 14, 2020 15:43:00 GMT 1, think he is asking for Banksy's prints Presumably, since he/she posted in the Andy Warhol section, that's what they're after...? spot on... didn't see was AW section
think he is asking for Banksy's prints Presumably, since he/she posted in the Andy Warhol section, that's what they're after...? spot on... didn't see was AW section
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Express Post on Jul 14, 2020 15:53:00 GMT 1, Didn't read.
Their prices are stable. Percentage wise there isn't much upside short term.
Didn't read.
Their prices are stable. Percentage wise there isn't much upside short term.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Happy Shopper on Jul 14, 2020 15:57:33 GMT 1, I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !!
I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !!
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by artdelight on Jul 15, 2020 16:30:41 GMT 1, I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !!
Iโve seen in a few documentaries about Andy that it could possibly be a market manipulation. How much do prices vary for original prints?
I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! Iโve seen in a few documentaries about Andy that it could possibly be a market manipulation. How much do prices vary for original prints?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by artdelight on Jul 15, 2020 16:31:10 GMT 1, think he is asking for Banksy's prints
I am asking about Andy Warhol prints
think he is asking for Banksy's prints I am asking about Andy Warhol prints
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by medichead on Jul 15, 2020 17:30:46 GMT 1, In all honesty, and I'm not sure how long you've been interested in the art market, I would seriously consider not buying much at the moment. Maybe for a few more years.
It sounds like you're fairly new and you're keen to make some money quickly (apologies if that's not the case). You could get badly burnt if you start following the dreadful trends on this forum and find yourself holding a load of expensive bags...
But hey, what the hell do I know...?
In all honesty, and I'm not sure how long you've been interested in the art market, I would seriously consider not buying much at the moment. Maybe for a few more years.
It sounds like you're fairly new and you're keen to make some money quickly (apologies if that's not the case). You could get badly burnt if you start following the dreadful trends on this forum and find yourself holding a load of expensive bags...
But hey, what the hell do I know...?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by kjg on Jul 16, 2020 14:35:06 GMT 1, If it would be fake, they would have faked the cap too I guess. The cap on your bottle is missing.
If it would be fake, they would have faked the cap too I guess. The cap on your bottle is missing.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by mas on Jul 16, 2020 15:05:23 GMT 1, Yes I saw that, so your point is that can be legit. thank you.
Yes I saw that, so your point is that can be legit. thank you.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by .dappy on Jul 16, 2020 17:31:31 GMT 1, ... but if they are playing bluff ... double bluff ... they would leave off the cap ... ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
... but if they are playing bluff ... double bluff ... they would leave off the cap ... ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by met on Jul 16, 2020 23:42:19 GMT 1,
My advice would be to keep away from works purportedly by Andy Warhol โ unless you really know what you're doing, or you're purchasing from a very reputable dealer / auction house with the requisite expertise.
The market for this artist is riddled with fakes.
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Specifically regarding You're In (geddit?), yes, there are fakes in circulation.
It hardly takes a mastermind to buy on eBay some vintage Coca-Cola bottles, snap-on seal-again bottle stoppers, and silver spraypaint. Nor is it difficult to copy labels and give items a roughed-up, aged look.
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Although I strongly believe the above photos are of a counterfeit You're In, I'm not prepared to better educate fraudsters by pointing out why.
However, even with the minimal details provided, I do feel comfortable making a couple of assertions:
1. The seller of this piece probably doesn't have a credible reputation when it comes to works by Warhol.
2. The provenance you've been given is most likely to be:
(i) incomplete (i.e. it cannot be traced all the way back to the artist); (ii) partly or wholly false; and/or (iii) partly or wholly unverifiable.
Perhaps you would kindly confirm if I'm on the right track. If so, then (by way of reciprocity) disclosing the name of the seller here may reduce the chances of other forum members getting conned by the same person or entity.
My advice would be to keep away from works purportedly by Andy Warhol โ unless you really know what you're doing, or you're purchasing from a very reputable dealer / auction house with the requisite expertise. The market for this artist is riddled with fakes. __________ Specifically regarding You're In (geddit?), yes, there are fakes in circulation. It hardly takes a mastermind to buy on eB ay some vintage Coca-Cola bottles, snap-on seal-again bottle stoppers, and silver spraypaint. Nor is it difficult to copy labels and give items a roughed-up, aged look. __________ Although I strongly believe the above photos are of a counterfeit You're In, I'm not prepared to better educate fraudsters by pointing out why. However, even with the minimal details provided, I do feel comfortable making a couple of assertions: 1. The seller of this piece probably doesn't have a credible reputation when it comes to works by War hol. 2. The provenance you've been given is most likely to be: (i) incomplete (i.e. it cannot be traced all the way back to the artist); (ii) partly or wholly false; and/or (iii) partly or wholly unverifiable. Perhaps you would kindly confirm if I'm on the right track. If so, then (by way of reciprocity) disclosing the name of the seller here may reduce the chances of other forum members getting conned by the same person or entity.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Phear Loathing on Jul 17, 2020 5:44:36 GMT 1, I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !!
I would love to understand this too!
Any Warhol experts?
I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! I would love to understand this too! Any Warhol experts?
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by irl1 on Jul 17, 2020 9:56:43 GMT 1, I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! You have zero chance of getting a real unsigned Warhol print for a few grand never mind a signed one.
What you see for a few grand are "all" fakes, do not let any auctioneer tell you they are real. There are thousands of so called hand signed Warhol pieces sold every month in auctions for a few grand but all of them are fakes, YES ALL OF THEM.
If you want a Warhol just buy a Sunday B Morning unsigned print because if you want a real signed one you will pay big money.
There is a thread on here somewhere about the types of Sunday B Morning prints, oh and they fake these as well.
I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! You have zero chance of getting a real unsigned Warhol print for a few grand never mind a signed one. What you see for a few grand are "all" fakes, do not let any auctioneer tell you they are real. There are thousands of so called hand signed Warhol pieces sold every month in auctions for a few grand but all of them are fakes, YES ALL OF THEM. If you want a Warhol just buy a Sunday B Morning unsigned print because if you want a real signed one you will pay big money. There is a thread on here somewhere about the types of Sunday B Morning prints, oh and they fake these as well.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Extra Ball on Jul 17, 2020 10:40:01 GMT 1, the sunday b morning, black stamp prints are the only prints that were authorized by Warhol, before he decided to stop collaborating with the Belgian publisher quickly enough. they have the right color codes. edited to 250 copies each. numbered or not, they can be signed or not. the sunday b morning blue stamp or other prints have no value because they have never been authorized by the artist or the foundation. black stamps appear in the Feldman & Shellmann's catalog raisonnรฉ. for a marilyn, black stamp, you can still find some at attractive prices.
the sunday b morning, black stamp prints are the only prints that were authorized by Warhol, before he decided to stop collaborating with the Belgian publisher quickly enough. they have the right color codes. edited to 250 copies each. numbered or not, they can be signed or not. the sunday b morning blue stamp or other prints have no value because they have never been authorized by the artist or the foundation. black stamps appear in the Feldman & Shellmann's catalog raisonnรฉ. for a marilyn, black stamp, you can still find some at attractive prices.
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Hairbland on Jul 17, 2020 10:56:42 GMT 1, In all honesty, and I'm not sure how long you've been interested in the art market, I would seriously consider not buying much at the moment. Maybe for a few more years. It sounds like you're fairly new and you're keen to make some money quickly (apologies if that's not the case). You could get badly burnt if you start following the dreadful trends on this forum and find yourself holding a load of expensive bags... But hey, what the hell do I know...? plus that whole pandemic crashed economy thing...
In all honesty, and I'm not sure how long you've been interested in the art market, I would seriously consider not buying much at the moment. Maybe for a few more years. It sounds like you're fairly new and you're keen to make some money quickly (apologies if that's not the case). You could get badly burnt if you start following the dreadful trends on this forum and find yourself holding a load of expensive bags... But hey, what the hell do I know...? plus that whole pandemic crashed economy thing...
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Happy Shopper on Jul 17, 2020 12:01:34 GMT 1, I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! You have zero chance of getting a real unsigned Warhol print for a few grand never mind a signed one. What you see for a few grand are "all" fakes, do not let any auctioneer tell you they are real. There are thousands of so called hand signed Warhol pieces sold every month in auctions for a few grand but all of them are fakes, YES ALL OF THEM. If you want a Warhol just buy a Sunday B Morning unsigned print because if you want a real signed one you will pay big money. There is a thread on here somewhere about the types of Sunday B Morning prints, oh and they fake these as well. This was a few years ago... but I was considering bidding on this auction. (Not the best colour probably, but a signed Warhol print, and at a reputable auction house, for ยฃ4k !
Even at the time signed prints were going for far more... so why would this, and some others, be so much cheaper!?
www.phillips.com/detail/andy-warhol/UK030213/109?fromSearch=warhol%20electric%20chair&searchPage=1
I never understand pricing on Warhol prints. Some seem to go for silly money. Some for just a few thousand, even signed. I'm sure there's multiple reasons, but would like to know more !! You have zero chance of getting a real unsigned Warhol print for a few grand never mind a signed one. What you see for a few grand are "all" fakes, do not let any auctioneer tell you they are real. There are thousands of so called hand signed Warhol pieces sold every month in auctions for a few grand but all of them are fakes, YES ALL OF THEM. If you want a Warhol just buy a Sunday B Morning unsigned print because if you want a real signed one you will pay big money. There is a thread on here somewhere about the types of Sunday B Morning prints, oh and they fake these as well. This was a few years ago... but I was considering bidding on this auction. (Not the best colour probably, but a signed Warhol print, and at a reputable auction house, for ยฃ4k ! Even at the time signed prints were going for far more... so why would this, and some others, be so much cheaper!? www.phillips.com/detail/andy-warhol/UK030213/109?fromSearch=warhol%20electric%20chair&searchPage=1
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by irl1 on Jul 17, 2020 12:23:59 GMT 1, How about this one
One of Banksy's best. Mint condition and accompanied by Pest Control certification.
Stop and Search
Date: 2007 Edition: 500 signed and numbered Signature: hand-signed by Banksy bottom right
ยฃ67,500 Possible Installment Plan: ยฃ13,500 deposit, followed by ยฃ4,500 a month for 12 months
mailings.artlogic.net/readonline/5ff7043290bf483fbfa3d367401b0131
How about this one One of Banksy's best. Mint condition and accompanied by Pest Control certification. Stop and Search Date: 2007 Edition: 500 signed and numbered Signature: hand-signed by Banksy bottom right ยฃ67,500 Possible Installment Plan: ยฃ13,500 deposit, followed by ยฃ4,500 a month for 12 months mailings.artlogic.net/readonline/5ff7043290bf483fbfa3d367401b0131
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Majestic on Jul 17, 2020 12:27:54 GMT 1, How about this one One of Banksy's best. Mint condition and accompanied by Pest Control certification. Stop and Search Date: 2007 Edition: 500 signed and numbered Signature: hand-signed by Banksy bottom right ยฃ67,500 Possible Installment Plan: ยฃ13,500 deposit, followed by ยฃ4,500 a month for 12 months mailings.artlogic.net/readonline/5ff7043290bf483fbfa3d367401b0131
Just a casual 4.5k a month installment plan.
Damn. I'm in the wrong job!
How about this one One of Banksy's best. Mint condition and accompanied by Pest Control certification. Stop and Search Date: 2007 Edition: 500 signed and numbered Signature: hand-signed by Banksy bottom right ยฃ67,500 Possible Installment Plan: ยฃ13,500 deposit, followed by ยฃ4,500 a month for 12 months mailings.artlogic.net/readonline/5ff7043290bf483fbfa3d367401b0131Just a casual 4.5k a month installment plan. Damn. I'm in the wrong job!
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Andy Warhol ๐บ๐ธ Real or Fake? โข Sunday B. Morning Print, by Happy Shopper on Jul 17, 2020 12:44:54 GMT 1, It is stamped by Andy Warhol Foundation who have his copyright so doesn't mean it was created by the artist himself. The expensive ones, like this in the same auction www.phillips.com/detail/andy-warhol/UK030213/15, have Andy Warhol Art Authentication Board stamp. Which means it's an authentic work by Warhol, it should also have an Estate of Andy Warhol stamp. AH! Good info. So even though it's still signed, it wasn't made at Warhol's Factory. (Is that the difference?) And one step beyond that would be works produced by himself, I assume.
It is stamped by Andy Warhol Foundation who have his copyright so doesn't mean it was created by the artist himself. The expensive ones, like this in the same auction www.phillips.com/detail/andy-warhol/UK030213/15, have Andy Warhol Art Authentication Board stamp. Which means it's an authentic work by Warhol, it should also have an Estate of Andy Warhol stamp. AH! Good info. So even though it's still signed, it wasn't made at Warhol's Factory. (Is that the difference?) And one step beyond that would be works produced by himself, I assume.
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