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Every Print Is Crap, by bullet on Jul 19, 2008 11:44:05 GMT 1, by the way, i was not referring to neate and micallef as poor prints, i like micallef...was referring to prices at the moment.
There is just no way to tell with art, i think that it is whatever is 'in' at the time. Faile are doing well at the moment, but the interest always grows around the bonhams and other shows etc. Happened last year if you remember, its just a poor time of the year
by the way, i was not referring to neate and micallef as poor prints, i like micallef...was referring to prices at the moment.
There is just no way to tell with art, i think that it is whatever is 'in' at the time. Faile are doing well at the moment, but the interest always grows around the bonhams and other shows etc. Happened last year if you remember, its just a poor time of the year
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Every Print Is Crap, by bmjt on Jul 19, 2008 12:01:04 GMT 1, Have to agree with simococo, the ยฃ50 print thread is a fantastic example that quality cheap art is alive and well amidst a huge (Removed) of overpriced bangwagon garbage.
Have to agree with simococo, the ยฃ50 print thread is a fantastic example that quality cheap art is alive and well amidst a huge (Removed) of overpriced bangwagon garbage.
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Every Print Is Crap, by Prescription Art on Jul 19, 2008 13:11:01 GMT 1, IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much.
I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about.
IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much.
I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about.
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Every Print Is Crap, by BlightSociety on Jul 19, 2008 15:15:42 GMT 1, IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much. I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about.
I agree. We need some new blood.
IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much. I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about. I agree. We need some new blood.
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Every Print Is Crap, by carlito on Jul 19, 2008 15:21:23 GMT 1, IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much. I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about.
looking forward to this, big space and lots of new talent (to my eyes anyway)
IMO things have got very stale recently, and there are few interesting artists coming through in London in particular. There is a whole world out there though, and there's no shortage of incredible work on the streets.... it's just not talked about on the forum much. I've got a show coming later in the year where i'll be introducing some new artists to get really excited about. looking forward to this, big space and lots of new talent (to my eyes anyway)
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Every Print Is Crap, by robinbanks on Jul 19, 2008 15:26:39 GMT 1, I think Alessandro Farto (Vhils) and Russ Mills (Byroglyphics) fall in to the "ones to watch" category and I've been really impressed with Rourke's work of late, so I think this scene has plenty of legs in it yet and there are people out there that will continue to excite and inspire. But then of course there are hundreds more who will just follow the tried and trusted methods without ever pushing the boundaries - but I suppose the same could be said of almost every single creative field - music, film etc.
I think Alessandro Farto (Vhils) and Russ Mills (Byroglyphics) fall in to the "ones to watch" category and I've been really impressed with Rourke's work of late, so I think this scene has plenty of legs in it yet and there are people out there that will continue to excite and inspire. But then of course there are hundreds more who will just follow the tried and trusted methods without ever pushing the boundaries - but I suppose the same could be said of almost every single creative field - music, film etc.
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Every Print Is Crap, by bullet on Jul 19, 2008 15:42:42 GMT 1, vhils is great, loving btoy as well
vhils is great, loving btoy as well
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Every Print Is Crap, by Deleted on Jul 19, 2008 16:46:39 GMT 1, especially neate. Think the classic example is micallef An interesting thing that I have been looking at is the number of people who visit the Artists forums. Some like Neate and Micallef are much lower than you would expect going by the way some people go on about them, and then Faile, D*Face and now Josh Keyes forums are buzzin! Its like some people are big fans one minute but then a few weeks later have forgotten all about them
i think the reason for the examples you have used Silky are that Faile,Dface and JOsh Keyes are regularly releasing prints and Neate and Micallef arent. you are bound to get more activity on a site around print release times. When there is nothing happening for an artist it becomes difficult talking about the same things over and over again. If you start a thread that has been done before people will be quick to comment "haven't we done this before". i find it amazing that Neates forum has roughly the same amount of members as the baldwin forum. baldwin very rarely gets mention on here and neate's talked about almost on a daily basis.
especially neate. Think the classic example is micallef An interesting thing that I have been looking at is the number of people who visit the Artists forums. Some like Neate and Micallef are much lower than you would expect going by the way some people go on about them, and then Faile, D*Face and now Josh Keyes forums are buzzin! Its like some people are big fans one minute but then a few weeks later have forgotten all about them i think the reason for the examples you have used Silky are that Faile,Dface and JOsh Keyes are regularly releasing prints and Neate and Micallef arent. you are bound to get more activity on a site around print release times. When there is nothing happening for an artist it becomes difficult talking about the same things over and over again. If you start a thread that has been done before people will be quick to comment "haven't we done this before". i find it amazing that Neates forum has roughly the same amount of members as the baldwin forum. baldwin very rarely gets mention on here and neate's talked about almost on a daily basis.
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Every Print Is Crap, by Heavyconsumer on Jul 19, 2008 16:59:57 GMT 1, Cocteau101, I see where you're coming from, there are a lot of people bashing stuff, instead of saying something like "I don't like this because....." or "not to my taste". I think that the kind of ignorance displayed by some members because they don't like a piece is just plain crap and I'm pleased about the new rules/guidelines! However there is a lot af very mediocre work being offered up at a premium, by galleries vying for a piece of the action (print release = money seems to be the formula of the day). Sadly they are so focused on making a buck, I'm not sure they realise or care about any effect their actions may have on the market. Ironically, perhaps flooding the market with poor prints will help to stabilise things a bit and keep prices sensible on the better work in the long run!
However what goes ignored too often imo, is that some galleries like Signal and Red Propeller to name 2 (but there are others) are introducing some fantastic talent to this board. Not all of it is very "street" but there's some superb art posted on these boards as well as the more wishy washy stuff and it's nice to see.
However, robinbanks above makes a great point. There are some excellent emerging talents all the time, his 2 examples are very pertinent (especially Vhils imo). I had subscribed to the school of thought that prints in general were less desirable to me than originals, but then I saw the Prefab image JBoy started a thread about and I "had to have" it! The other thing, in addition to the odd "must have pieces" popping up, is that I will not be able to buy a Neate or Choe original, so prints are a great way for me to have an image I love on the wall. Prints are a long way from dead in this scene imo.
Cocteau101, I see where you're coming from, there are a lot of people bashing stuff, instead of saying something like "I don't like this because....." or "not to my taste". I think that the kind of ignorance displayed by some members because they don't like a piece is just plain crap and I'm pleased about the new rules/guidelines! However there is a lot af very mediocre work being offered up at a premium, by galleries vying for a piece of the action (print release = money seems to be the formula of the day). Sadly they are so focused on making a buck, I'm not sure they realise or care about any effect their actions may have on the market. Ironically, perhaps flooding the market with poor prints will help to stabilise things a bit and keep prices sensible on the better work in the long run!
However what goes ignored too often imo, is that some galleries like Signal and Red Propeller to name 2 (but there are others) are introducing some fantastic talent to this board. Not all of it is very "street" but there's some superb art posted on these boards as well as the more wishy washy stuff and it's nice to see.
However, robinbanks above makes a great point. There are some excellent emerging talents all the time, his 2 examples are very pertinent (especially Vhils imo). I had subscribed to the school of thought that prints in general were less desirable to me than originals, but then I saw the Prefab image JBoy started a thread about and I "had to have" it! The other thing, in addition to the odd "must have pieces" popping up, is that I will not be able to buy a Neate or Choe original, so prints are a great way for me to have an image I love on the wall. Prints are a long way from dead in this scene imo.
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Every Print Is Crap, by Simococo on Jul 19, 2008 17:02:39 GMT 1, vhils is great, loving btoy as well
just been to Stolenspace and the vhils is one of the best pieces I have seen for ages. very very clever work
vhils is great, loving btoy as well just been to Stolenspace and the vhils is one of the best pieces I have seen for ages. very very clever work
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Every Print Is Crap, by jamesreeve5 on Jul 19, 2008 18:28:29 GMT 1, Its like some people are big fans one minute but then a few weeks later have forgotten all about them
and that will be the end of this movement...
Its like some people are big fans one minute but then a few weeks later have forgotten all about them and that will be the end of this movement...
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Every Print Is Crap, by doublehelix on Jul 19, 2008 18:38:37 GMT 1, Good will out.
Good will out.
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Every Print Is Crap, by felix on Jul 19, 2008 19:22:37 GMT 1, Well said Heavyconsumer, with the prices of originals completely out of reach for the average person (I love Choe, but don't have a spare ยฃ20,000 for the originals I like) prints are always going to be the more affordable option.
Well said Heavyconsumer, with the prices of originals completely out of reach for the average person (I love Choe, but don't have a spare ยฃ20,000 for the originals I like) prints are always going to be the more affordable option.
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Every Print Is Crap, by spenie1975 on Jul 19, 2008 22:10:39 GMT 1, Choe has to be my fav at the moment, 3 prints framed up and the prices are still reasonable. You can pick up some cracking prices on Neate at the moment though. That has to be said. Like the new Dale Grimshaw prints as well, again not a bad price. I think you just have to be very selective at the moment about what you buy and not follow the crowd. As for the new Josh Keyes print very fucking special.
Choe has to be my fav at the moment, 3 prints framed up and the prices are still reasonable. You can pick up some cracking prices on Neate at the moment though. That has to be said. Like the new Dale Grimshaw prints as well, again not a bad price. I think you just have to be very selective at the moment about what you buy and not follow the crowd. As for the new Josh Keyes print very fucking special.
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