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blupp
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Starving a dog - art?, by blupp on Apr 21, 2008 12:03:05 GMT 1, what a t0sser if this is real.
it somehow reminds me of the story several years ago where somebody threatened to kill his *some-pet* but it can be prevented if many people donate some money.
what a t0sser if this is real.
it somehow reminds me of the story several years ago where somebody threatened to kill his *some-pet* but it can be prevented if many people donate some money.
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jusdeep
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Starving a dog - art?, by jusdeep on Apr 21, 2008 12:40:56 GMT 1, I read about this in a free paper in Athens. Bloody sick B@st@rd!
The art critics apparently backed him up saying it was art and now he's doing a similar stunt.
So get signing the petition people - He needs locking up!
I read about this in a free paper in Athens. Bloody sick B@st@rd!
The art critics apparently backed him up saying it was art and now he's doing a similar stunt.
So get signing the petition people - He needs locking up!
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scottd007
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Starving a dog - art?, by scottd007 on Apr 21, 2008 12:42:44 GMT 1, Shame on anyone who went to see that.
Shame on anyone who went to see that.
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colonelkurtz
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Starving a dog - art?, by colonelkurtz on Apr 21, 2008 17:15:40 GMT 1, probably the worst idea for a publicity stunt i have ever come across.
probably the worst idea for a publicity stunt i have ever come across.
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pokerdonp
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Starving a dog - art?, by pokerdonp on Apr 22, 2008 7:33:10 GMT 1, simply foul. 
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Photoxtc
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Starving a dog - art?, by Photoxtc on Apr 22, 2008 7:40:08 GMT 1, this guy is a fucking asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the fucking cock!!!
this guy is a fucking asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the fucking cock!!!
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mcster
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Starving a dog - art?, by mcster on Apr 22, 2008 8:00:36 GMT 1, this guy is a f**king asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the f**king cock!!!
Maybe let the dog eat him?
this guy is a f**king asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the f**king cock!!! Maybe let the dog eat him? |
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Starving a dog - art?, by daley on Apr 22, 2008 9:13:07 GMT 1, this guy is a f**king asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the f**king cock!!!
How can I beat that? ;D
this guy is a f**king asshole!!! let's chain his ass up and not feed him and call it art, the f**king cock!!! How can I beat that? ;D |
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pelle
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Starving a dog - art?, by pelle on Apr 22, 2008 9:38:12 GMT 1, Did any of you actually read the articles before speaking hell and brimstone?
How come all of you choose to be outraged and believe that the artist actually starved the dog, when both the articles also contain statements from the gallery that this was not the case?
IF the guy did indeed starve an animal as it is claimed, then I'm with you. That's terrible.
However, I also think that the point of the piece - that everyone is going to be outraged and say 'oh that's terrible' but not actually go and set the animal free - is interesting and says a lot about human nature. And if the artist was able to communivate this without actually harming the animal, then fine.
An interesting question here is whether it was out of respect for the holy concept of 'art' or just because people actually love being outraged by something without actually taking it upon themselves to change it that they chose not to act on the circumstances as they were presented to them.
Did any of you actually read the articles before speaking hell and brimstone?
How come all of you choose to be outraged and believe that the artist actually starved the dog, when both the articles also contain statements from the gallery that this was not the case?
IF the guy did indeed starve an animal as it is claimed, then I'm with you. That's terrible.
However, I also think that the point of the piece - that everyone is going to be outraged and say 'oh that's terrible' but not actually go and set the animal free - is interesting and says a lot about human nature. And if the artist was able to communivate this without actually harming the animal, then fine.
An interesting question here is whether it was out of respect for the holy concept of 'art' or just because people actually love being outraged by something without actually taking it upon themselves to change it that they chose not to act on the circumstances as they were presented to them.
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Photoxtc
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Starving a dog - art?, by Photoxtc on Apr 22, 2008 9:46:44 GMT 1, yup, read it... the guy is still an asshole..
no changing my mind on this one... did you see the state of the dog??? that my friend is called torture, whether the dog survived the "art" exhibit is besides the point, it was still tortured during the course of the show 
I still say let's do it to him and call it art...
yup, read it... the guy is still an asshole.. no changing my mind on this one... did you see the state of the dog??? that my friend is called torture, whether the dog survived the "art" exhibit is besides the point, it was still tortured during the course of the show I still say let's do it to him and call it art... |
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pelle
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Starving a dog - art?, by pelle on Apr 22, 2008 9:53:05 GMT 1, Cool, that's your call.
It would have been interesting to see how you would have reacted if you were confronted with this piece in reality though. Would you really have followed through on your outrage? Would you have unchained the dog and taken it away from the alledged abuse?
Cool, that's your call.
It would have been interesting to see how you would have reacted if you were confronted with this piece in reality though. Would you really have followed through on your outrage? Would you have unchained the dog and taken it away from the alledged abuse?
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Photoxtc
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Starving a dog - art?, by Photoxtc on Apr 22, 2008 9:55:52 GMT 1, Cool, that's your call. It would have been interesting to see how you would have reacted if you were confronted with this piece in reality though. Would you really have followed through on your outrage? Would you have unchained the dog and taken it away from the alledged abuse?
without a doubt my friend, not something I would just walk away from what's so ever
Cool, that's your call. It would have been interesting to see how you would have reacted if you were confronted with this piece in reality though. Would you really have followed through on your outrage? Would you have unchained the dog and taken it away from the alledged abuse? without a doubt my friend, not something I would just walk away from what's so ever |
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pelle
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Starving a dog - art?, by pelle on Apr 22, 2008 9:59:28 GMT 1, did you see the state of the dog??? that my friend is called torture, whether the dog survived the "art" exhibit is besides the point, it was still tortured during the course of the show
You added the above while I was typing my response.
I have seen many dogs in a similar or worse state on the streets of Europe, and according to the gallery the state of the dog (which I obviously agree doesn't look good) had nothing to do with the exhibit. If this is true then the torture has been done by society as a whole (for not noticing or caring) and not the artist.
I'm not saying the gallery is telling the truth by the way - I just find it interesting that there is such an incredibly one-sided response to the whole thing, especially since I'll bet anything most people wouldn't have helped the dog. They would have walked away - outraged, yes - but they would have walked away (and on their way they would have passed a good handfull of starving stray dogs in the street, probably without even noticing it).
did you see the state of the dog??? that my friend is called torture, whether the dog survived the "art" exhibit is besides the point, it was still tortured during the course of the show You added the above while I was typing my response. I have seen many dogs in a similar or worse state on the streets of Europe, and according to the gallery the state of the dog (which I obviously agree doesn't look good) had nothing to do with the exhibit. If this is true then the torture has been done by society as a whole (for not noticing or caring) and not the artist. I'm not saying the gallery is telling the truth by the way - I just find it interesting that there is such an incredibly one-sided response to the whole thing, especially since I'll bet anything most people wouldn't have helped the dog. They would have walked away - outraged, yes - but they would have walked away (and on their way they would have passed a good handfull of starving stray dogs in the street, probably without even noticing it). |
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angryboy
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Starving a dog - art?, by angryboy on Apr 22, 2008 10:27:43 GMT 1, Every city in South America I've been to has been hundreds of dogs like that walking around if you wanted to grab one and pretend you'd been starving it in the name of art, as they're now claiming. Not condoning the actions but it would be very easy to stage without doing any starving if you wanted to draw attention to the animals' plights, as they're also claiming.
Every city in South America I've been to has been hundreds of dogs like that walking around if you wanted to grab one and pretend you'd been starving it in the name of art, as they're now claiming. Not condoning the actions but it would be very easy to stage without doing any starving if you wanted to draw attention to the animals' plights, as they're also claiming.
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GimmeStreet
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Starving a dog - art?, by GimmeStreet on Apr 22, 2008 15:26:38 GMT 1, did what it set out to achieve
did what it set out to achieve
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guest2
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Starving a dog - art?, by guest2 on May 7, 2008 11:19:45 GMT 1, just want to bump this up again. Stormie Mills just send me some pics of the last poor starving dog with the same link as Dale posted a while back.
www.petitiononline.com/ea6gk/petition-sign.html
as Stormie put it
"" I'M SORRY TO SPOIL YOUR DAY BUT THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A MINUTE OF YOUR TIME
AND WILL SAVE A CREATURE - AND HOPEFULLY REMOVE THIS SO-CALLED 'ARTIST'!!! ""
Personally as a dog owner and a member of the human race I find this sickening. I've posted up probably the least disturbing picture. I hope you all sign it.
just want to bump this up again. Stormie Mills just send me some pics of the last poor starving dog with the same link as Dale posted a while back. www.petitiononline.com/ea6gk/petition-sign.html as Stormie put it "" I'M SORRY TO SPOIL YOUR DAY BUT THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A MINUTE OF YOUR TIME AND WILL SAVE A CREATURE - AND HOPEFULLY REMOVE THIS SO-CALLED 'ARTIST'!!! "" Personally as a dog owner and a member of the human race I find this sickening. I've posted up probably the least disturbing picture. I hope you all sign it. |
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Toykio
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Starving a dog - art?, by Toykio on May 7, 2008 11:46:11 GMT 1, Tasteless!
Tasteless!
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GD303uk
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Starving a dog - art?, by GD303uk on May 7, 2008 11:46:54 GMT 1, the artist is d**k head for using a dog like this but , and this is a big but, i think the piece is to put the viewer in a moral dilemma to ask him/her to follow through with there convictions, ie free or feed the dog, the picture used shows people milling round drinking socializing ignoring the dog, i think it more about the viewer than the dog. if that makes sense
the artist could be bringing to their and our attention the hypocrisy humans show towards animals, if this was Britain a nation famed for its love of dogs this exhibition of cruelty would not last long, i like to think someone would untie the dog and take it to the RSPCA( where it would probably be put down) or save it, at least feed it, i know i would, its a disgusting use of a poor animal, there are a lot of starving and stray dogs in the part of the world the artist comes from and i think maybe the artist is drawing our attention to this.
at least i hope thats what the piece is about,
i have read the dog was untied at the end of every show and fed,
i am not sticking up for the artist or the act of cruelty but am trying my best to understand why , and reasoning behind it.
this is a sickening use of an animal and highlights how bad art can be, i hate these fukin biennials to much s**t art in them
i still think the installation would be better if it was the artist tied up and starved, you know to highlight the starving and tortured people around the world
the artist is d**k head for using a dog like this but , and this is a big but, i think the piece is to put the viewer in a moral dilemma to ask him/her to follow through with there convictions, ie free or feed the dog, the picture used shows people milling round drinking socializing ignoring the dog, i think it more about the viewer than the dog. if that makes sense
the artist could be bringing to their and our attention the hypocrisy humans show towards animals, if this was Britain a nation famed for its love of dogs this exhibition of cruelty would not last long, i like to think someone would untie the dog and take it to the RSPCA( where it would probably be put down) or save it, at least feed it, i know i would, its a disgusting use of a poor animal, there are a lot of starving and stray dogs in the part of the world the artist comes from and i think maybe the artist is drawing our attention to this.
at least i hope thats what the piece is about,
i have read the dog was untied at the end of every show and fed,
i am not sticking up for the artist or the act of cruelty but am trying my best to understand why , and reasoning behind it.
this is a sickening use of an animal and highlights how bad art can be, i hate these fukin biennials to much s**t art in them
i still think the installation would be better if it was the artist tied up and starved, you know to highlight the starving and tortured people around the world
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Starving a dog - art?, by stender on May 7, 2008 12:19:32 GMT 1, I'd like to do a collaboration with that artist.
My piece will be called "Artist hanging by his bollocks"
I'd like to do a collaboration with that artist.
My piece will be called "Artist hanging by his bollocks"
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dotdot
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Starving a dog - art?, by dotdot on May 7, 2008 12:25:22 GMT 1, It's a shame when this kind of story makes headlines - makes a person slightly famous, or was that infamous, for a short period
of time.
It's a shameful barbaric act which some and yes some
would call art - i am not perfect nor an artist - but i'd have
to stand up and say this is not what i'd call art it is in fact
something that i'd call - 'a form of crime'.
I know,for some, that may be a tad over the top - but then if it keeps something alive then yeah - i'd voice it. I am and have been for a while anti vivi ... this VERMIN is taking the proverbial.
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It's a shame when this kind of story makes headlines - makes a person slightly famous, or was that infamous, for a short period
of time.
It's a shameful barbaric act which some and yes some
would call art - i am not perfect nor an artist - but i'd have
to stand up and say this is not what i'd call art it is in fact
something that i'd call - 'a form of crime'.
I know,for some, that may be a tad over the top - but then if it keeps something alive then yeah - i'd voice it. I am and have been for a while anti vivi ... this VERMIN is taking the proverbial.
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cru5tee
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Starving a dog - art?, by cru5tee on May 7, 2008 14:15:15 GMT 1, There are loads of starving kids in africa at the moment. Let's tie one up in a gallery in mayfair... same thing, no?
We are all animals after all. Sick as feck! The arsehole artist has ego that is disgusting.
There are loads of starving kids in africa at the moment. Let's tie one up in a gallery in mayfair... same thing, no?
We are all animals after all. Sick as feck! The arsehole artist has ego that is disgusting.
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