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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by ABC on May 8, 2007 22:46:06 GMT 1, A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice.
A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice.
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by carlito on May 8, 2007 22:53:21 GMT 1, alway important to add into the mix..that that street art market is as much driven today by the expansion of the Internet / Ebay and the fact alot more people than ever before consider buying art than ever before because of this.... including me 
alway important to add into the mix..that that street art market is as much driven today by the expansion of the Internet / Ebay and the fact alot more people than ever before consider buying art than ever before because of this.... including me |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by RetroCanvas on May 8, 2007 22:57:19 GMT 1, Agreed, a good post but i'd have to disagree with you ABC,
The printers proofs normally are not how the artists wanted the print to be. Slight colour changes, modifications etc etc so i'd personally would rather a print the way the artists wanted it to be.
Being signed makes a big diference to me, i know the image is the same as an unsigned one but you know that the artists has at least touched and been in the same room as it.
As with the edition number, the first and last ones seem cool but agreed shouldn't normally effect prices.
Probably rambled but hey...
Retro
A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice.
Agreed, a good post but i'd have to disagree with you ABC, The printers proofs normally are not how the artists wanted the print to be. Slight colour changes, modifications etc etc so i'd personally would rather a print the way the artists wanted it to be. Being signed makes a big diference to me, i know the image is the same as an unsigned one but you know that the artists has at least touched and been in the same room as it. As with the edition number, the first and last ones seem cool but agreed shouldn't normally effect prices. Probably rambled but hey... Retro A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by alvington89 on May 8, 2007 22:58:09 GMT 1, aerbrute.
A number of good points made. People have short memories and every 10 years the next wave of green horns come along ready to find out the hard way.
aerbrute.
A number of good points made. People have short memories and every 10 years the next wave of green horns come along ready to find out the hard way.
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by wezzley on May 9, 2007 0:59:04 GMT 1, whats all that about editions of over 1000 though..!
whats all that about editions of over 1000 though..!
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by Ripper1331 on May 9, 2007 1:34:37 GMT 1, With hand pulled prints AP's are actually the best of the batch and printers proofs are more used for the matching of colors which would depend on who is mixing the ink and if they are doing full pulls instead of trying to match up to a Pantone #.
A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice.
With hand pulled prints AP's are actually the best of the batch and printers proofs are more used for the matching of colors which would depend on who is mixing the ink and if they are doing full pulls instead of trying to match up to a Pantone #. A good post. It does seem strange about A/Ps and P/Ps, but in the street art world they are the ones to have it seems. I would rather have that LA P/P than a signed POW one, but just the chance of any would be nice. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by sammyman on May 9, 2007 1:39:39 GMT 1, I disagree about the printer's proofs. These are usually more expensive because:
1. They are sometimes unique. If you own a printers proof, sometimes it is the only one like it in existence.
2. They are looked over carefully by the artist. Most of the prints that we purchase the artist does not even look at. Even signed editions. He usually only looks at the artist proofs. That is why many people who ordered Morons received them with the green numbers not even close to where they belonged. Banksy didn't see it!
3. They are a small edition. Despite the fact that they are just like all of the other prints on occasion, the print size is very limited. You can't deny this. When someone sees that print on the wall is an edition of only 5, it is much more impressive than seeing an edition of 1000.
These are some of the reasons that A/P's have historically demanded a higher price than normal editions.
Check out wikipedia:
"Collectors also usually prefer final artist's proofs even when they are identical to the main edition; if nothing else the print may have been presented to a friend by the artist. Prints are generally sold as limited editions, with a print being cheaper than a drawing or painting because the artist/gallery makes more money by selling multiples. An artist's proof has special value because of its extra rarity and its possible differences from the "standard" print, factors that are often reflected in its price."
I disagree about the printer's proofs. These are usually more expensive because:
1. They are sometimes unique. If you own a printers proof, sometimes it is the only one like it in existence.
2. They are looked over carefully by the artist. Most of the prints that we purchase the artist does not even look at. Even signed editions. He usually only looks at the artist proofs. That is why many people who ordered Morons received them with the green numbers not even close to where they belonged. Banksy didn't see it!
3. They are a small edition. Despite the fact that they are just like all of the other prints on occasion, the print size is very limited. You can't deny this. When someone sees that print on the wall is an edition of only 5, it is much more impressive than seeing an edition of 1000.
These are some of the reasons that A/P's have historically demanded a higher price than normal editions.
Check out wikipedia:
"Collectors also usually prefer final artist's proofs even when they are identical to the main edition; if nothing else the print may have been presented to a friend by the artist. Prints are generally sold as limited editions, with a print being cheaper than a drawing or painting because the artist/gallery makes more money by selling multiples. An artist's proof has special value because of its extra rarity and its possible differences from the "standard" print, factors that are often reflected in its price."
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by ctc2 on May 9, 2007 2:01:33 GMT 1, I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions.
I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions.
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by jam on May 9, 2007 2:58:32 GMT 1, I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions.
I normally would agree with the fact the larger additions should be worth less idea. I do believe however, that the Banksy Flag is an anomaly. It is a print that is very susceptible to damage by the nature of its chroma-lux paper. Over time these will become more and more scarce so while buying at the current prices, I would think a buyer could safely assume quite a few are already in poor condition so the total number available is much less than 1000.
I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions. I normally would agree with the fact the larger additions should be worth less idea. I do believe however, that the Banksy Flag is an anomaly. It is a print that is very susceptible to damage by the nature of its chroma-lux paper. Over time these will become more and more scarce so while buying at the current prices, I would think a buyer could safely assume quite a few are already in poor condition so the total number available is much less than 1000. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by johnerotten on May 9, 2007 6:03:34 GMT 1,
flags sold for 100 and morons for 250. if unsigned are fetching 500 then you can't justify a print that cost more than 50% less to be worth as much. however i think flag is a great print
I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions. I normally would agree with the fact the larger additions should be worth less idea. I do believe however, that the Banksy Flag is an anomaly. It is a print that is very susceptible to damage by the nature of its chroma-lux paper. Over time these will become more and more scarce so while buying at the current prices, I would think a buyer could safely assume quite a few are already in poor condition so the total number available is much less than 1000.
flags sold for 100 and morons for 250. if unsigned are fetching 500 then you can't justify a print that cost more than 50% less to be worth as much. however i think flag is a great print I agree with the edition size comments. Although I still like the Flags print, the prices on ebay with approach $1000 U.S. seem to not justify a print of 1000 copies. Especially when you put them up with the prices for more limited editions. I normally would agree with the fact the larger additions should be worth less idea. I do believe however, that the Banksy Flag is an anomaly. It is a print that is very susceptible to damage by the nature of its chroma-lux paper. Over time these will become more and more scarce so while buying at the current prices, I would think a buyer could safely assume quite a few are already in poor condition so the total number available is much less than 1000. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by pezlow on May 9, 2007 6:16:07 GMT 1, Bl**dy h*ll artbrute - change the record. This is the second time you have posted something similar about this. If you don't think these Banksy prints are worth the money then don't buy them.
I don't think anyone on here isn't realistic about the prospect of a crash in prices at some point. This has less to do with the art market and more to do with tulip mania (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_bubble ) or indeed the Beanie Babies fad en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_babies.
But please enough lectures about Julian Schnabel!
Bl**dy h*ll artbrute - change the record. This is the second time you have posted something similar about this. If you don't think these Banksy prints are worth the money then don't buy them. I don't think anyone on here isn't realistic about the prospect of a crash in prices at some point. This has less to do with the art market and more to do with tulip mania (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulip_bubble ) or indeed the Beanie Babies fad en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beanie_babies. But please enough lectures about Julian Schnabel! |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by jp on May 9, 2007 7:57:41 GMT 1, I don't mind the "lecture" so much. The article he linked to is actually a good read and having a different voice on this forum is beneficial and useful in my opinion. I've been through the internet stock boom and bust and learned some valuable lessons the hard way so this kind of viewpoint is not lost on me. 
Having said that, I think both Banksy and Micallef will outlast the next art market bust, although people who buy at the peek may have to sweat it out for a while.
I don't mind the "lecture" so much. The article he linked to is actually a good read and having a different voice on this forum is beneficial and useful in my opinion. I've been through the internet stock boom and bust and learned some valuable lessons the hard way so this kind of viewpoint is not lost on me. Having said that, I think both Banksy and Micallef will outlast the next art market bust, although people who buy at the peek may have to sweat it out for a while. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by funster on May 9, 2007 8:32:45 GMT 1, I think artbrute has good points and valuable reminders. I've noticed a couple of people on this forum lately saying they've maxed out there credit cards etc buying art, and while that fine in itself you often need your last lines of credit at the same time art prices will be fluctuating. Also, profits are only made when something is actually sold, if you've got ยฃ5,000 borrowed at 15-17% your art is already costing you more than you think (about ยฃ850 extra a year in this scenario).
I think artbrute has good points and valuable reminders. I've noticed a couple of people on this forum lately saying they've maxed out there credit cards etc buying art, and while that fine in itself you often need your last lines of credit at the same time art prices will be fluctuating. Also, profits are only made when something is actually sold, if you've got ยฃ5,000 borrowed at 15-17% your art is already costing you more than you think (about ยฃ850 extra a year in this scenario).
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by manchestermike on May 9, 2007 8:47:42 GMT 1, I think artbrute has good points and valuable reminders. I've noticed a couple of people on this forum lately saying they've maxed out there credit cards etc buying art, and while that fine in itself you often need your last lines of credit at the same time art prices will be fluctuating. Also, profits are only made when something is actually sold, if you've got ยฃ5,000 borrowed at 15-17% your art is already costing you more than you think (about ยฃ850 extra a year in this scenario).
Is that why people shill bid? To make sure they get the best price?
I think artbrute has good points and valuable reminders. I've noticed a couple of people on this forum lately saying they've maxed out there credit cards etc buying art, and while that fine in itself you often need your last lines of credit at the same time art prices will be fluctuating. Also, profits are only made when something is actually sold, if you've got ยฃ5,000 borrowed at 15-17% your art is already costing you more than you think (about ยฃ850 extra a year in this scenario). Is that why people shill bid? To make sure they get the best price? |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by funster on May 9, 2007 9:00:28 GMT 1, Everytime someone on this forum writes something potentially negative about prices someone else gives them a negative respect. Grow up.
Everytime someone on this forum writes something potentially negative about prices someone else gives them a negative respect. Grow up.
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by manchestermike on May 9, 2007 9:01:41 GMT 1, You didn't answer the question...
You didn't answer the question...
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by funster on May 9, 2007 9:06:43 GMT 1, I wouldn't know, mainly because I don't know what shill bidding is!
I wouldn't know, mainly because I don't know what shill bidding is!
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by Strange Al on May 9, 2007 9:09:19 GMT 1, On the subject of Proofs - I refer people back to this thread:
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1176440373&page=1
On the subject of the art market crashing, of course this is a possibility and it's better that people are safe than sorry. However, all this talk of values and markets is pure conjecture and speculation.
As I posted previously, there are just too many variables in the current street art market - many of which we have absolutely no factual information about - in order to undertake a proper analysis. We don't even have any idea about how many different people own Banksy works and who these people are. My feeling is that there are a fair few individuals sitting on multiple copies of prints. If any of these individuals decide or are forced to sell their collections, this could have a massive impact on the market (which ties in with something LesbianWednesdays posted on another thread on the subject). While these individuals have a vested interest to keep the market buoyant, circumstances change and the acts of one or two of these individuals could seriously undermine the current market.
Undoubtedly the Banksy phenomenon looks very much like a boom & bust cycle and in certain respects it is very similar to other bubble markets (whether that be housing, stocks, tulips or even other artists). Though, there are different elements present in all of these markets, which have to be factored in. Even the major auction houses (which effectively determine values in the art markets - much more so than galleries) have said that they've never seen an artist rise as meteorically as Banksy and are having difficulties assessing the value of his work. I think that says it all!
As is often posted on the forum, if you stick to the maxim - "only buy the art you like and spend what you can afford to lose" - then there's no risk. Unfortunately, that maxim excludes 99% of us from buying a Banksy on the secondary market.
On the subject of Proofs - I refer people back to this thread: banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general&thread=1176440373&page=1On the subject of the art market crashing, of course this is a possibility and it's better that people are safe than sorry. However, all this talk of values and markets is pure conjecture and speculation. As I posted previously, there are just too many variables in the current street art market - many of which we have absolutely no factual information about - in order to undertake a proper analysis. We don't even have any idea about how many different people own Banksy works and who these people are. My feeling is that there are a fair few individuals sitting on multiple copies of prints. If any of these individuals decide or are forced to sell their collections, this could have a massive impact on the market (which ties in with something LesbianWednesdays posted on another thread on the subject). While these individuals have a vested interest to keep the market buoyant, circumstances change and the acts of one or two of these individuals could seriously undermine the current market. Undoubtedly the Banksy phenomenon looks very much like a boom & bust cycle and in certain respects it is very similar to other bubble markets (whether that be housing, stocks, tulips or even other artists). Though, there are different elements present in all of these markets, which have to be factored in. Even the major auction houses (which effectively determine values in the art markets - much more so than galleries) have said that they've never seen an artist rise as meteorically as Banksy and are having difficulties assessing the value of his work. I think that says it all! As is often posted on the forum, if you stick to the maxim - "only buy the art you like and spend what you can afford to lose" - then there's no risk. Unfortunately, that maxim excludes 99% of us from buying a Banksy on the secondary market. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by pezlow on May 9, 2007 9:09:35 GMT 1, pez puts 2 and 2 together mike 
pez puts 2 and 2 together mike |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by manchestermike on May 9, 2007 9:14:26 GMT 1, I wouldn't know, mainly because I don't know what shill bidding is!
Q. What is shill bidding?
A. Shill bidding is the deliberate placing of bids to artificially drive up the price of an item. This is also known as "bid padding" and is not allowed.
That help?
I wouldn't know, mainly because I don't know what shill bidding is! Q. What is shill bidding? A. Shill bidding is the deliberate placing of bids to artificially drive up the price of an item. This is also known as "bid padding" and is not allowed. That help? |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by ABC on May 9, 2007 9:38:20 GMT 1, Come on Pez, grow up, this is a serious thread .
It looks like people have mixed views on A/Ps and P/Ps which is fine but regardless of what has stood the test of time before, IE they normally are not as desirable, the proof is in the pudding with Banksy, Micallef, Bejoirs A/Ps, P/Ps on ebay, they go for a lot more and the unique colour runs are what the collectors want. Not that I'm a stamp collector, but its the same in their world, a different one to the rest of the edition sell for a lot more as its unique.
Come on Pez, grow up, this is a serious thread . It looks like people have mixed views on A/Ps and P/Ps which is fine but regardless of what has stood the test of time before, IE they normally are not as desirable, the proof is in the pudding with Banksy, Micallef, Bejoirs A/Ps, P/Ps on ebay, they go for a lot more and the unique colour runs are what the collectors want. Not that I'm a stamp collector, but its the same in their world, a different one to the rest of the edition sell for a lot more as its unique. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by carlito on May 9, 2007 10:10:00 GMT 1, how depressing if their individuals sitting on more than one copy...i'd love just one signed banksy but the secondary market is way out of my league and the hit on my c/card is too much to justify.. the only way i see myself getting one is getting lucky on POW or hitting on something with a cheaper print and making the bucks i need on the bay
how depressing if their individuals sitting on more than one copy...i'd love just one signed banksy but the secondary market is way out of my league and the hit on my c/card is too much to justify.. the only way i see myself getting one is getting lucky on POW or hitting on something with a cheaper print and making the bucks i need on the bay |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by Curley on May 9, 2007 10:16:31 GMT 1, Come on Pez, grow up, this is a serious thread . It looks like people have mixed views on A/Ps and P/Ps which is fine but regardless of what has stood the test of time before, IE they normally are not as desirable, the proof is in the pudding with Banksy, Micallef, Bejoirs A/Ps, P/Ps on ebay, they go for a lot more and the unique colour runs are what the collectors want. Not that I'm a stamp collector, but its the same in their world, a different one to the rest of the edition sell for a lot more as its unique.
i think you summed it up there.
The A/P and P/P that actually differs to the released edition will be worth more as they are rarer and quite desirable.
Any A/P or P/P that is exactly the same as the final edition should not be worth as much.
Come on Pez, grow up, this is a serious thread . It looks like people have mixed views on A/Ps and P/Ps which is fine but regardless of what has stood the test of time before, IE they normally are not as desirable, the proof is in the pudding with Banksy, Micallef, Bejoirs A/Ps, P/Ps on ebay, they go for a lot more and the unique colour runs are what the collectors want. Not that I'm a stamp collector, but its the same in their world, a different one to the rest of the edition sell for a lot more as its unique. i think you summed it up there. The A/P and P/P that actually differs to the released edition will be worth more as they are rarer and quite desirable. Any A/P or P/P that is exactly the same as the final edition should not be worth as much. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by corblimeylimey on May 9, 2007 10:17:02 GMT 1, I'd like to bring attension to this thread about numbering and APs & PPs etc
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1178524626
And my posts from it
APs and PPs do generally attract a higher price as there are fewer of them (you seemed to be unlucky romanywg) also it would be nice to have a very low numbered print too, but apart from low single numbers or number 1 I can't see it affecting price much.
It all comes down to whether someone's prepared to pay, personally I wouldn't, its nice having a number you like I've got prints with numbers 321, 15, 5, 4, 2, & an AP but I didn't pay anymore for them.
APs normally account for up to 10% of a run, and can demand 10-20% more money than the standard run.
why should they go for less? it used to apply especially in the photographic world, when the APs were just poor 'seconds' in the run up to getting exposure etc right before the main set. It doesn't mean that anymore, now it means a smaller and more exclusive part of the run which is usually given to the artist, and therefore has extra kudos.
maybe in the past they did but not now and not just in the street art sector.
www.answers.com/topic/artist-s-proof
www.novaspace.com/AUTO/AP.html
www.jcstudio.com/artist.htm
www.hartclassics.com/search.php?search_query=At+Jesus%27+Feet
www.glenscrimshaw.com/limiteds_2003.html
www.amybrownart.com/g_limited_01.asp
www.amybrownart.com/g_limited_ap_01.asp
As for bubbles, boom & bust etc, pure speculation and shouldn't bother anyone who's just bought a print that you enjoy looking at on the wall, and will only bother investment bankers and such like.
I'd like to bring attension to this thread about numbering and APs & PPs etc banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1178524626And my posts from it APs and PPs do generally attract a higher price as there are fewer of them (you seemed to be unlucky romanywg) also it would be nice to have a very low numbered print too, but apart from low single numbers or number 1 I can't see it affecting price much. It all comes down to whether someone's prepared to pay, personally I wouldn't, its nice having a number you like I've got prints with numbers 321, 15, 5, 4, 2, & an AP but I didn't pay anymore for them. APs normally account for up to 10% of a run, and can demand 10-20% more money than the standard run. why should they go for less? it used to apply especially in the photographic world, when the APs were just poor 'seconds' in the run up to getting exposure etc right before the main set. It doesn't mean that anymore, now it means a smaller and more exclusive part of the run which is usually given to the artist, and therefore has extra kudos. maybe in the past they did but not now and not just in the street art sector. www.answers.com/topic/artist-s-proofwww.novaspace.com/AUTO/AP.htmlwww.jcstudio.com/artist.htmwww.hartclassics.com/search.php?search_query=At+Jesus%27+Feetwww.glenscrimshaw.com/limiteds_2003.htmlwww.amybrownart.com/g_limited_01.aspwww.amybrownart.com/g_limited_ap_01.aspAs for bubbles, boom & bust etc, pure speculation and shouldn't bother anyone who's just bought a print that you enjoy looking at on the wall, and will only bother investment bankers and such like. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by ABC on May 9, 2007 11:22:52 GMT 1, I think at times we could possibly be getting people that want to talk about a market crash, just as an attempt to temporarily drop ebay prices so they can buy them up cheap, and then make a killing when the values pick up again  I could well be wrong, but lets not play the game
I don't think thats the case, how could a few speculating people influence a market crash, a market crash will come if the Bank Of England decides to raise interest levels. The likes of Andipa have caused the massive price hikes in the market.
I think at times we could possibly be getting people that want to talk about a market crash, just as an attempt to temporarily drop ebay prices so they can buy them up cheap, and then make a killing when the values pick up again I could well be wrong, but lets not play the game I don't think thats the case, how could a few speculating people influence a market crash, a market crash will come if the Bank Of England decides to raise interest levels. The likes of Andipa have caused the massive price hikes in the market. |
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by daz205 on May 9, 2007 13:13:02 GMT 1, i guess so but if enough people can be made worried about the value of their prints dropping when their CC are maxed then it would force an increase in sales which in turn would lower the market value of the prints
i guess so but if enough people can be made worried about the value of their prints dropping when their CC are maxed then it would force an increase in sales which in turn would lower the market value of the prints
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by themightyreds on May 9, 2007 13:48:42 GMT 1, Artists proofs...
these are going to be more desireable to people who really like the image they are buying as they are generally from lower runs so offer more exclusivity than larger run editions, but there are no fixed rules for thier worth against regular editions of the same run so thier value only comes down to the individuals buying any given print and how much they are prepared to pay on the day its sold.
Art market crashes...
people who buy the prints only to profit from re-selling them are the ones who will lose out should the market crash so who here really cares if they do lose out? I know i don't. If a piece i've bought goes up or down in value its of no concern because it'll never change how it looks and how much i thought it was worth paying for when i got it.
Artists proofs...
these are going to be more desireable to people who really like the image they are buying as they are generally from lower runs so offer more exclusivity than larger run editions, but there are no fixed rules for thier worth against regular editions of the same run so thier value only comes down to the individuals buying any given print and how much they are prepared to pay on the day its sold.
Art market crashes...
people who buy the prints only to profit from re-selling them are the ones who will lose out should the market crash so who here really cares if they do lose out? I know i don't. If a piece i've bought goes up or down in value its of no concern because it'll never change how it looks and how much i thought it was worth paying for when i got it.
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by carlito on May 9, 2007 14:00:14 GMT 1, unfortunately not having a bottomless pit of wealth i could see myself having to sell to buy if a piece came out i particularly wanted and was expensive (ie. from a gallery etc)....
unfortunately not having a bottomless pit of wealth i could see myself having to sell to buy if a piece came out i particularly wanted and was expensive (ie. from a gallery etc)....
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PRINTER'S PROOFS and ART MARKET CRASHES, by ABC on May 9, 2007 15:59:13 GMT 1, Im sure thats the way most get what they want Carlito
Im sure thats the way most get what they want Carlito
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