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print numbers, by a4mnt on Sept 9, 2007 12:16:39 GMT 1, In your obviously very important opinion yes ? Why are you so negative about everything?  and by the way I negged you endtimes ,people are always quick to claim +1 credit but ive never seen anyone admit this
JD - have a +1 from me.
If you read my (now locked) thread, you've just highlighted exactly what I was saying.
banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1188999279
It was probably my post that prompted endtimes to write what he did, but I stand by wanting to be anal and get low /matching numbers. Matching number sets carry a premium price, thats not my opinion, thats pretty much fact by the looks of ebay sales (or more likely ebay asking prices). But I wouldn't pay extra for a number. The number ones I received were purely by luck and a pleasant surprise.
In your obviously very important opinion yes ? Why are you so negative about everything? and by the way I negged you endtimes ,people are always quick to claim +1 credit but ive never seen anyone admit this JD - have a +1 from me. If you read my (now locked) thread, you've just highlighted exactly what I was saying. banksyforum.proboards82.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1188999279It was probably my post that prompted endtimes to write what he did, but I stand by wanting to be anal and get low /matching numbers. Matching number sets carry a premium price, thats not my opinion, thats pretty much fact by the looks of ebay sales (or more likely ebay asking prices). But I wouldn't pay extra for a number. The number ones I received were purely by luck and a pleasant surprise. |
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print numbers, by Run Pig Run on Sept 9, 2007 18:35:08 GMT 1, -1 for crackawacka 
-1 for crackawacka |
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print numbers, by a4mnt on Sept 9, 2007 18:42:07 GMT 1, thanks.
any reason why then?
thanks. any reason why then? |
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print numbers, by corblimeylimey on Sept 9, 2007 19:00:38 GMT 1, It may be nice to have a low number or matching numbers, but it's not something I'd pay more for. I feel lucky that I've got number 1 of Dolks Officer Down and a low numbered Grannies (45) but my Applause is number 416, I don't like it any less for that, on the other hand I wouldn't swap my Grannies print for one with the same number as Applause as I prefer the low number, silly really.
It may be nice to have a low number or matching numbers, but it's not something I'd pay more for. I feel lucky that I've got number 1 of Dolks Officer Down and a low numbered Grannies (45) but my Applause is number 416, I don't like it any less for that, on the other hand I wouldn't swap my Grannies print for one with the same number as Applause as I prefer the low number, silly really.
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print numbers, by endtimes on Sept 9, 2007 19:04:28 GMT 1,
The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit.
I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble.
It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy...
The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit.
I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble.
It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy...
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print numbers, by Run Pig Run on Sept 9, 2007 19:10:08 GMT 1, thanks. any reason why then?
only joking
btw, my aiko grenade girl is 13/20 and i would rather have any other number. but if someone knocked on my door wanting to swap 13 for 14 i couldn't be arsed to remove it from the frame.
thanks. any reason why then? only joking btw, my aiko grenade girl is 13/20 and i would rather have any other number. but if someone knocked on my door wanting to swap 13 for 14 i couldn't be arsed to remove it from the frame. |
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print numbers, by a4mnt on Sept 9, 2007 19:14:43 GMT 1, if someone knocked on your door offering you number 13 i'd be highly suspicious
if someone knocked on your door offering you number 13 i'd be highly suspicious |
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print numbers, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Sept 9, 2007 20:17:17 GMT 1, The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit. I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble. It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy...
an articulate and intelligent post.raises some fair issues I think..
The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit. I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble. It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy... an articulate and intelligent post.raises some fair issues I think.. |
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print numbers, by finsburyparkranger on Sept 9, 2007 20:28:23 GMT 1, I like your name flibberty_gibbet. My girl friend threaten's me that i am one all the time. Where did the saying come from, do you know ?
And yes print numbers is a load of bollocks. People do like 1, 3, 7 ,10, 50 , 100 's but that really shouldn't mean anyone should be paying 20%+ for the privilege. Although I guess its supply and demand and if people are willing to pay ... 
I like your name flibberty_gibbet. My girl friend threaten's me that i am one all the time. Where did the saying come from, do you know ? And yes print numbers is a load of bollocks. People do like 1, 3, 7 ,10, 50 , 100 's but that really shouldn't mean anyone should be paying 20%+ for the privilege. Although I guess its supply and demand and if people are willing to pay ... |
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print numbers, by a4mnt on Sept 9, 2007 20:31:51 GMT 1, The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit. I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble. It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy... an articulate and intelligent post.raises some fair issues I think..
though misconstruing that fact that most people would like to have low and matching numbers as a matter of fun, for their own personal enjoyment (i mean, isn't that what you buy the art for in the first place), but not having a low number does not demean the print in any way whatsoever.
i doubt many people are that 'bothered' about it and i agree with the point about dealers as i've been offered low number prints at a premium of approx 50% extra, which i turned down, but most people, given the choice of numbers by the original seller, would probably go for number 1 as opposed to number 64 for example.
its a bit of extra fun which i think is being taken out of context somewhat.
but while anyone selling anything can feed off the wants of the general public, they will do and what can we really do about it. some people are discerning and some people have more money than sense. this is the way of the world.
The problem with "facts" is that even they can be manipulated due to misconceptions. If matching numbers and "low" numbers get a "premium" on ebay it's because of these misconceptions and or sellers exploiting collectors misunderstandings or OCD conditions about the value of "numbers" so that they can reap extra profit. I only seem to see this obsession on these kinds of forums and in this scene and I feel like so called "dealers" have very much exploited this very common misconception to the point where the collectors in this scene — who arguably did not have much seasoned experience and knowledge — now think it's fact that the number of the print has anything to do with value. And it's inflating prices for everyone and adding to this little bubble. It further amazes me that this "scene" about street art, underground, anti-establishment work has become so obsessed about trivial things such as numbers of a print and become just as greedy as everyone over in the corporate art scene for which this one was born out of - except that this one was supposed to be the opposite of that. It is becoming its own enemy... an articulate and intelligent post.raises some fair issues I think.. though misconstruing that fact that most people would like to have low and matching numbers as a matter of fun, for their own personal enjoyment (i mean, isn't that what you buy the art for in the first place), but not having a low number does not demean the print in any way whatsoever. i doubt many people are that 'bothered' about it and i agree with the point about dealers as i've been offered low number prints at a premium of approx 50% extra, which i turned down, but most people, given the choice of numbers by the original seller, would probably go for number 1 as opposed to number 64 for example. its a bit of extra fun which i think is being taken out of context somewhat. but while anyone selling anything can feed off the wants of the general public, they will do and what can we really do about it. some people are discerning and some people have more money than sense. this is the way of the world. |
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print numbers, by a4mnt on Sept 9, 2007 20:35:43 GMT 1, there you go, ranger pretty much said the same as me though a little more succinctly.
as for flibbertigibbet, already posted this once 
flib·ber·ti·gib·bet
–noun 1. a chattering or flighty, light-headed person.
2. Archaic. a gossip.
clearly Mrs FPR has better diction, or else she's a fan of Mary Poppins?
there you go, ranger pretty much said the same as me though a little more succinctly. as for flibbertigibbet, already posted this once flib·ber·ti·gib·bet
–noun 1. a chattering or flighty, light-headed person.
2. Archaic. a gossip. clearly Mrs FPR has better diction, or else she's a fan of Mary Poppins? |
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print numbers, by stuey09 on Sept 9, 2007 20:39:12 GMT 1, Wow. Like the fact that you've got dealers offering you numbers Cracka' I'm reduced to sending begging letters in order to get the pictures that I'm after
Putting things into context, I'm sure that anyone would just as happily have a Trolley's numbered 388 as they would a low number. It's the image that counts.
Wow. Like the fact that you've got dealers offering you numbers Cracka' I'm reduced to sending begging letters in order to get the pictures that I'm after Putting things into context, I'm sure that anyone would just as happily have a Trolley's numbered 388 as they would a low number. It's the image that counts. |
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print numbers, by iwouldfollow youanywhere on Sept 9, 2007 20:48:18 GMT 1, I like your name flibberty_gibbet. My girl friend threaten's me that i am one all the time. Where did the saying come from, do you know ?
it was a word I had heard and thought was unusual,thanks to crackawacka I can now use it in a sentence.!
I like your name flibberty_gibbet. My girl friend threaten's me that i am one all the time. Where did the saying come from, do you know ? it was a word I had heard and thought was unusual,thanks to crackawacka I can now use it in a sentence.! |
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print numbers, by paulah on Sept 9, 2007 20:56:52 GMT 1, thanks. any reason why then? only joking btw, my aiko grenade girl is 13/20 and i would rather have any other number. but if someone knocked on my door wanting to swap 13 for 14 i couldn't be arsed to remove it from the frame.
Wow - I've only just notice your name isn't bombhugger!
Or did you change it?
thanks. any reason why then? only joking btw, my aiko grenade girl is 13/20 and i would rather have any other number. but if someone knocked on my door wanting to swap 13 for 14 i couldn't be arsed to remove it from the frame. Wow - I've only just notice your name isn't bombhugger! Or did you change it? |
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print numbers, by pezlow on Sept 10, 2007 10:06:41 GMT 1, Most of the time print numbers don't bother me at all. Although if I am buying a pair of prints I quite like to have a matching number, just for the symetry of it. POW's automated system doesn't allow this to happen, BTW, so that if you were after, for example, matching numbers of the Elton prints POW won't sort this out for you. I think that's pretty turd!
Most of the time print numbers don't bother me at all. Although if I am buying a pair of prints I quite like to have a matching number, just for the symetry of it. POW's automated system doesn't allow this to happen, BTW, so that if you were after, for example, matching numbers of the Elton prints POW won't sort this out for you. I think that's pretty turd!
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print numbers, by themightyreds on Sept 10, 2007 10:41:28 GMT 1, I agree that with matching prints (ie. the Eine Elton ones) you should certainly be given the option to request matching edition numbers... it would be £300 for them both so its not too much to ask for in my books.
Some artists do a subscription to all of thier print releases where you are given the choice of a range of edition numbers and then they will send you the same edition number of each print they release as long as you are a subscriber....
This costs a fair whack though...
I agree that with matching prints (ie. the Eine Elton ones) you should certainly be given the option to request matching edition numbers... it would be £300 for them both so its not too much to ask for in my books.
Some artists do a subscription to all of thier print releases where you are given the choice of a range of edition numbers and then they will send you the same edition number of each print they release as long as you are a subscriber....
This costs a fair whack though...
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