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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by jamieb on Dec 5, 2020 13:39:50 GMT 1, As promised my own poster shot in morning ( with reflection  Without any filter. As you can see itโs a very clear/pale background one. All the art of Banksy to make contrast with the bottle... sorry for my ugly face is a mess
I think it would be wise for anyone posting pictures of genuine Petrol Bomb to watermark them in some to stop them being used to sell fakes.
To that I end I have watermarked Lroy's for him an uploaded.
@lroy might be worth replacing yours with these.
As promised my own poster shot in morning ( with reflection Without any filter. As you can see itโs a very clear/pale background one. All the art of Banksy to make contrast with the bottle... sorry for my ugly face is a mess Thanks for posting these, great pictures of how different a real one looks like to all the fakes Tateward /Nick / Lobster have sold. I think it would be wise for anyone posting pictures of genuine Petrol Bomb to watermark them in some to stop them being used to sell fakes. To that I end I have watermarked Lroy's for him an uploaded. @lroy might be worth replacing yours with these. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lroy on Dec 5, 2020 14:20:43 GMT 1, Yes ! 5 โฌ in my Chinese superstore around my home...lol I never bought frames, apart bargain ones, some ikea, and must if allรฉ from flea markets. Or I made themselves by myself, buying glass. Anyway none of my print has tapes and are not at the light of the day. I just made framed one print .. it was a real great job and not so much expensive.. I wonโt tell for which one ! I know that going to the framer is like going to the office the Sunday morning, but I buy art for art, not for waiting exclamation or congratulations ๐ณ ๐คฉ for my guests. Anyway I have no friends nor guests. So I sleep With my art as a Singie dad with his Stik ! Yes all great, but look after it and make sure it will last a long time.. this frame will damage the art work
Even a poster ?
Yes ! 5 โฌ in my Chinese superstore around my home...lol I never bought frames, apart bargain ones, some ikea, and must if allรฉ from flea markets. Or I made themselves by myself, buying glass. Anyway none of my print has tapes and are not at the light of the day. I just made framed one print .. it was a real great job and not so much expensive.. I wonโt tell for which one ! I know that going to the framer is like going to the office the Sunday morning, but I buy art for art, not for waiting exclamation or congratulations ๐ณ ๐คฉ for my guests. Anyway I have no friends nor guests. So I sleep With my art as a Singie dad with his Stik ! Yes all great, but look after it and make sure it will last a long time.. this frame will damage the art work Even a poster ? |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lroy on Dec 5, 2020 14:22:03 GMT 1, As promised my own poster shot in morning ( with reflection Without any filter. As you can see itโs a very clear/pale background one. All the art of Banksy to make contrast with the bottle... sorry for my ugly face is a mess Thanks for posting these, great pictures of how different a real one looks like to all the fakes Tateward /Nick / Lobster have sold. I think it would be wise for anyone posting pictures of genuine Petrol Bomb to watermark them in some to stop them being used to sell fakes. To that I end I have watermarked Lroy's for him an uploaded. @lroy might be worth replacing yours with these.
Yes I will but how to ask them that quoted me ?
I will ask ok thanks ๐
As promised my own poster shot in morning ( with reflection Without any filter. As you can see itโs a very clear/pale background one. All the art of Banksy to make contrast with the bottle... sorry for my ugly face is a mess Thanks for posting these, great pictures of how different a real one looks like to all the fakes Tateward /Nick / Lobster have sold. I think it would be wise for anyone posting pictures of genuine Petrol Bomb to watermark them in some to stop them being used to sell fakes. To that I end I have watermarked Lroy's for him an uploaded. @lroy might be worth replacing yours with these. Yes I will but how to ask them that quoted me ? I will ask ok thanks ๐ |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lroy on Dec 5, 2020 15:00:22 GMT 1, just to finish: as the photo was taken against the light, I would like to add that the background is pale sky blue, not light gray as it might appear in the photos. thank you ,
just to finish: as the photo was taken against the light, I would like to add that the background is pale sky blue, not light gray as it might appear in the photos. thank you ,
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by jamieb on Dec 5, 2020 15:52:32 GMT 1, The real ones are actually a really nice image.
I did for a split second think this is pretty crappy for Banksy when I got mine but then realised it was a shitty fake and that explained the terrible quality.
The real ones are actually a really nice image.
I did for a split second think this is pretty crappy for Banksy when I got mine but then realised it was a shitty fake and that explained the terrible quality.
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That looks like a real one to me. Look at all the photos |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by JW on Dec 5, 2020 18:39:34 GMT 1, That looks like a real one to me. Look at all the photos
Yep, just did and deleted my post.
That looks like a real one to me. Look at all the photos Yep, just did and deleted my post. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lroy on Dec 5, 2020 19:03:48 GMT 1, Yep, just did and deleted my post.
Sometimes Ebayers make a mix because of the light or a weak camera.
First pic is a pic taken on the Internet.
Second one looks good.
Itโs the Third one that looks a bit weird, with a background not equal near the corners, more darkers : maybe the seller put more contrast or โ vignettage โ to make his print more attractive ?
I donโt understand these flyers that mean nothing, itโs not a COA nor a proof.
A thing is sure , if itโs really Laz that bought it, he asked provenance and friends ( or more scans ) to authenticate it : whatever I think about him, I donโt think that he would buy a fake one ...
Some posters are really ugly. I think that the highest sale ( at 4 K ) , is a good one : once upon a time , why did he posted a photo the tube ( where itโs written โ Banksy petrol bomb โ...
Ps : police should caught easily the guy as we see his real face in one photo ahah ! Boom ๐ฅ
Yep, just did and deleted my post. Sometimes Ebayers make a mix because of the light or a weak camera. First pic is a pic taken on the Internet. Second one looks good. Itโs the Third one that looks a bit weird, with a background not equal near the corners, more darkers : maybe the seller put more contrast or โ vignettage โ to make his print more attractive ? I donโt understand these flyers that mean nothing, itโs not a COA nor a proof. A thing is sure , if itโs really Laz that bought it, he asked provenance and friends ( or more scans ) to authenticate it : whatever I think about him, I donโt think that he would buy a fake one ... Some posters are really ugly. I think that the highest sale ( at 4 K ) , is a good one : once upon a time , why did he posted a photo the tube ( where itโs written โ Banksy petrol bomb โ... Ps : police should caught easily the guy as we see his real face in one photo ahah ! Boom ๐ฅ |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by avec art on Dec 5, 2020 21:00:52 GMT 1, ... ยฃ3200 ... this is petrolgate
... ยฃ3200 ... this is petrolgate
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Nuno on Dec 5, 2020 22:27:27 GMT 1, Everything still available. Will listen to offers.
Everything still available. Will listen to offers.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by orenic on Dec 6, 2020 12:52:10 GMT 1, As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at.
Where are these coming from?
Why so many of the same thing every sale?
As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at.
Where are these coming from?
Why so many of the same thing every sale?
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Black Wolf on Dec 6, 2020 15:37:31 GMT 1, As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at. Where are these coming from? Why so many of the same thing every sale?
As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at. Where are these coming from? Why so many of the same thing every sale? what now there are fake Warhol's at tate? |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by orenic on Dec 7, 2020 13:45:31 GMT 1, As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at. Where are these coming from? Why so many of the same thing every sale? what now there are fake Warhol's at tate?
If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well.
Something isnโt right there.
As well as the petrol bomb posters, the Warholโs that are at the beginning of every sale need to be looked at. Where are these coming from? Why so many of the same thing every sale? what now there are fake Warhol's at tate? If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well. Something isnโt right there. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Pattycakes on Dec 7, 2020 13:59:59 GMT 1, what now there are fake Warhol's at tate? If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well. Something isnโt right there.
what now there are fake Warhol's at tate? If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well. Something isnโt right there. Your assumption is correct. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by orenic on Dec 7, 2020 19:11:44 GMT 1, If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well. Something isnโt right there. Your assumption is correct.ย
Did you buy these Warhol prints from Tate?
If you check all their auctions, the same Warhol prints keep on popping up again and again. Given whats come to light if I was a buyer Iโd want these checked as well. Something isnโt right there. Your assumption is correct.ย Did you buy these Warhol prints from Tate? |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Pattycakes on Dec 7, 2020 22:31:47 GMT 1, Your assumption is correct. Did you buy these Warhol prints from Tate?
Your assumption is correct. Did you buy these Warhol prints from Tate? Fugazi |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lazarus II on Dec 8, 2020 15:38:26 GMT 1, wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there?  this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there?
is Juliens Auctions not on your side of the pond, granted not NY.
wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there? this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there? is Juliens Auctions not on your side of the pond, granted not NY. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by orenic on Dec 8, 2020 16:32:03 GMT 1, wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there? this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there?
Well itโs clear and I think industry known about the Warholโs in there.
Just have a look at every auction they have had,including this one. What are the chances of there being that many going along side the usual tatt they have ?? - as Iโve said, it doesnโt make sense.
It should be addressed.
wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there? this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there? Well itโs clear and I think industry known about the Warholโs in there. Just have a look at every auction they have had,including this one. What are the chances of there being that many going along side the usual tatt they have ?? - as Iโve said, it doesnโt make sense. It should be addressed. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by jamieb on Dec 8, 2020 17:09:15 GMT 1, Never looked at the Warhols before as not my thing. For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just an observation.
Never looked at the Warhols before as not my thing. For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just an observation. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by dreadware on Dec 8, 2020 17:11:10 GMT 1, For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just saying
That's printing money
For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just saying That's printing money |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Rubberneck on Dec 8, 2020 17:11:55 GMT 1, Itโs theft
Itโs theft
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by lamby on Dec 8, 2020 17:26:08 GMT 1, someone said that these Warhol prints were going around and anyone with any clue knew they were fake, the fact that Danny and Nick didn't realize is amazing. The quantity they must have sold of these is also amazing as they seem to have been in every auction.
should be easy to find the seller unless they bought them themselves and they are dealing in their own auction
explanation would be good on the Warhols and PBs
someone said that these Warhol prints were going around and anyone with any clue knew they were fake, the fact that Danny and Nick didn't realize is amazing. The quantity they must have sold of these is also amazing as they seem to have been in every auction.
should be easy to find the seller unless they bought them themselves and they are dealing in their own auction
explanation would be good on the Warhols and PBs
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by tab1 on Dec 8, 2020 18:57:16 GMT 1, For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just saying That's printing money
Easy to say the source had made an easy 500k gbp selling fakes through auction houses and private sales
For example whatson stag sold out and generated ยฃ108000 in a day !at ยฃ395 just for the main edition
For a 30+ year old poster there's a lot of complete sets of 4 about - just saying That's printing money Easy to say the source had made an easy 500k gbp selling fakes through auction houses and private sales For example whatson stag sold out and generated ยฃ108000 in a day !at ยฃ395 just for the main edition |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lazarus II on Dec 8, 2020 19:06:48 GMT 1, juliens is across the country, west coast, iโm east, n if this was happening at skarsted or gagosian it would b international news, plus iโd go there personally 2 question the seller/house i purchased from, n unless iโm confused, TW is a major auction house in the UK, so iโll ask again, what the actual fuck is going on here?
you are across the pond as you put it as is Juliens.
Iโm not sure what defines a major auction house but when i think of major auction houses, TW doesnt spring to mind. If this was Sothebys or Christies it would be international news but its TW and as has been pointed out many times, they are very different. One is 3 years old and the others are 300 years old or summit like that.
That said, WTF is going on is a good question.
juliens is across the country, west coast, iโm east, n if this was happening at skarsted or gagosian it would b international news, plus iโd go there personally 2 question the seller/house i purchased from, n unless iโm confused, TW is a major auction house in the UK, so iโll ask again, what the actual fuck is going on here? you are across the pond as you put it as is Juliens. Iโm not sure what defines a major auction house but when i think of major auction houses, TW doesnt spring to mind. If this was Sothebys or Christies it would be international news but its TW and as has been pointed out many times, they are very different. One is 3 years old and the others are 300 years old or summit like that. That said, WTF is going on is a good question. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by tab1 on Dec 8, 2020 20:24:05 GMT 1, wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there? this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there?
I know the guys at Tate Ward and I donโt believe they would knowingly sell fakes, they have always been very trustworthy to deal with and Iโve never had any issues buying or selling. I bought one of these and they contacted me directly to offer a full refund . Iโll continue to do business with them as Iโm fully confident this was an honest and hopefully isolated mistake. after my initial more emotional reaction (due to personal issues not up for discussion here) i agree with LJCal that if all buyers, regardless of time frame and/or the ability/willingness to return said works, the matter should b closed, at least thatโs how i c it now.... trying to make something positive of this 4 the upcoming holidays will pay itself forward with positive vibes slingshotting thru 2 the new year 4 all, merry christmas!!!!
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wait what? so the auction house nick/lobster works 4 is selling more fakes than just banksy? is this speculation or confirmed? as i stated b4, my personal matter is closed on my end, even tho i lost out big time, my original purchase prices were refunded n i find that fair, yet now iโm reading there r more than just PB fakes? wtf is going on over there? this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there? I know the guys at Tate Ward and I donโt believe they would knowingly sell fakes, they have always been very trustworthy to deal with and Iโve never had any issues buying or selling. I bought one of these and they contacted me directly to offer a full refund . Iโll continue to do business with them as Iโm fully confident this was an honest and hopefully isolated mistake. after my initial more emotional reaction (due to personal issues not up for discussion here) i agree with LJCal that if all buyers, regardless of time frame and/or the ability/willingness to return said works, the matter should b closed, at least thatโs how i c it now.... trying to make something positive of this 4 the upcoming holidays will pay itself forward with positive vibes slingshotting thru 2 the new year 4 all, merry christmas!!!! ๐ |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Pattycakes on Dec 8, 2020 21:39:26 GMT 1, All I will say is this: The "Warhols" they are selling as "printer's proofs" are anything but, they have been printed recently, and the source is well known. It has been widely discussed here and in the US, and I know for a fact that a number of people have raised this issue.
All I will say is this: The "Warhols" they are selling as "printer's proofs" are anything but, they have been printed recently, and the source is well known. It has been widely discussed here and in the US, and I know for a fact that a number of people have raised this issue.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by iamzero on Dec 8, 2020 21:44:21 GMT 1, The differences between the genuine and moody PB posters have been shared here but are there obvious differences on the fake Warhol ones that someone could share.
The differences between the genuine and moody PB posters have been shared here but are there obvious differences on the fake Warhol ones that someone could share.
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Pattycakes on Dec 8, 2020 22:01:32 GMT 1, The differences between the genuine and moody PB posters have been shared here but are there obvious differences on the fake Warhol ones that someone could share.
The differences between the genuine and moody PB posters have been shared here but are there obvious differences on the fake Warhol ones that someone could share. I am not talking about the Warhol posters, I'm talking about the major image screenprints with a fake RJS blindstamp and fake rubberstamps on the back. |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by tab1 on Dec 8, 2020 23:02:58 GMT 1, tab1 as i said above, matter is closed 4 me personally, but now u add these warholโs into the mix, iโm curious, how many years is this going on? if this isnโt a 1 off, like just PB fakes, n it extends into other items, then i ask again, wtf is going on here, n y is it allowed 2 continue?
because people directly effected like you feel the matter is closed and do not raise the issue further
If it was not for this thread and the auction house refunded you , no mention of the fakes would be here accept for the original poster raising the issue .
Mentioned earlier will probably be a wider issue with fakes and now slowly unravelling .
Clear case to clear a name and keep trust would be to have a full investigation to clear any rumours .
Mostly the people defending are ones that sell through the auction house
Its not just the auction house that will fail it will kill the market for posters if not cleared up .
tab1 as i said above, matter is closed 4 me personally, but now u add these warholโs into the mix, iโm curious, how many years is this going on? if this isnโt a 1 off, like just PB fakes, n it extends into other items, then i ask again, wtf is going on here, n y is it allowed 2 continue? because people directly effected like you feel the matter is closed and do not raise the issue further If it was not for this thread and the auction house refunded you , no mention of the fakes would be here accept for the original poster raising the issue . Mentioned earlier will probably be a wider issue with fakes and now slowly unravelling . Clear case to clear a name and keep trust would be to have a full investigation to clear any rumours . Mostly the people defending are ones that sell through the auction house Its not just the auction house that will fail it will kill the market for posters if not cleared up . |
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Banksy โข Tesco Petrol Bomb Poster, by Lroy on Dec 8, 2020 23:27:46 GMT 1, Fakes. Facts.
And now ?
Fakes. Facts.
And now ?
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this shite would NEVER fly on my side of the pond in ANY well known or even semi-well known gallery in nyc, somebody please explain 2 me how this is happening over there?
