Rene Gagnon
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Rene Gagnon on Jun 8, 2011 19:02:58 GMT 1, What I don't get about the whole discussion about the image is that last time a lot of people complained about the image being too mainstream, too much popularism with a girl on rocket and so on, that the Faile weirdness was missing and now people complain about monkeys in dresses, the image being too weird.
exactly why i bought it. it is pretty amazing seeing how different peoples opinions change over time especially when you have been trolling here for years  . faile could keep producing what buyers want. but last i checked we (artists) do it for ourselves and could honestly give two shites about what people think we should produce. if we create what you want we will never progress and we FAILE.
What I don't get about the whole discussion about the image is that last time a lot of people complained about the image being too mainstream, too much popularism with a girl on rocket and so on, that the Faile weirdness was missing and now people complain about monkeys in dresses, the image being too weird. exactly why i bought it. it is pretty amazing seeing how different peoples opinions change over time especially when you have been trolling here for years . faile could keep producing what buyers want. but last i checked we (artists) do it for ourselves and could honestly give two shites about what people think we should produce. if we create what you want we will never progress and we FAILE. |
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volvic
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by volvic on Jun 8, 2011 20:13:40 GMT 1, last time i heard people were raving about the original of this from there show.... why is everyone hating on it now when its a print?
last time i heard people were raving about the original of this from there show.... why is everyone hating on it now when its a print?
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by My Name is Frank on Jun 8, 2011 20:16:51 GMT 1, Can't keep quiet, I love it, it'll be a classic. I am not buying it, got a million things waiting to go on walls. But I will regret this like tender forever! It's big and colourful and playful and light and just damn happy dammit. What's not to like
Can't keep quiet, I love it, it'll be a classic. I am not buying it, got a million things waiting to go on walls. But I will regret this like tender forever! It's big and colourful and playful and light and just damn happy dammit. What's not to like
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trasbash
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by trasbash on Jun 8, 2011 22:30:52 GMT 1, Hmm - Still undecided. To help me does anyone know if Paper Monster mark as a gift or mark the value when shipping. I would die if i get this through and received another customs bill for £100.
Ta
Hmm - Still undecided. To help me does anyone know if Paper Monster mark as a gift or mark the value when shipping. I would die if i get this through and received another customs bill for £100.
Ta
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by twist65 on Jun 8, 2011 22:46:54 GMT 1, Volvic I think people who aren't buying one are hating on it, helps them convince themselves they're not missing out =]
trasbash I have no personal experience but other people posting on this thread have been hit for tax before so I don't think PM mark as a gift
Volvic I think people who aren't buying one are hating on it, helps them convince themselves they're not missing out =]
trasbash I have no personal experience but other people posting on this thread have been hit for tax before so I don't think PM mark as a gift
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pcant
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by pcant on Jun 8, 2011 23:06:11 GMT 1, It was nice to have a couple days to think about it. I ultimately pulled the trigger and now I've got to figure out the wall space. Looking forward to seeing it in person.
It was nice to have a couple days to think about it. I ultimately pulled the trigger and now I've got to figure out the wall space. Looking forward to seeing it in person.
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by danielalaei on Jun 8, 2011 23:16:07 GMT 1, I remember people saying the same thing about the other old old Faile pieces, even Happens Everyday, and now you look back and everyone is killing themselves for the old stuff. I just think at this price for something its size and detail is a cant miss. Just my opinion. I know some disagree.
I remember people saying the same thing about the other old old Faile pieces, even Happens Everyday, and now you look back and everyone is killing themselves for the old stuff. I just think at this price for something its size and detail is a cant miss. Just my opinion. I know some disagree.
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Winter
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Winter on Jun 8, 2011 23:22:17 GMT 1, Even if and when this does sell out it will still only go for cost on eBay so theres plenty of time to make your mind up
Even if and when this does sell out it will still only go for cost on eBay so theres plenty of time to make your mind up
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by 1800garrett on Jun 8, 2011 23:30:02 GMT 1, I think they goofed up a bit. The paper monster releases should be reserved for their iconic images that we have come to love. I don't think it's the best format for experimental off the cuff releases like this one. Hopefully their show this month doesn't disappoint.
Your statement makes no sense. New shows, Faile.net and Perry R (their dealer) are Faile's points of sale where the new HOT/Iconic works are sold. Based on what has been sold so far on Papermonster, it looks like PM is used for revenue generation and not releasing their top knotch images and works. IMO
I think they goofed up a bit. The paper monster releases should be reserved for their iconic images that we have come to love. I don't think it's the best format for experimental off the cuff releases like this one. Hopefully their show this month doesn't disappoint. Your statement makes no sense. New shows, Faile.net and Perry R (their dealer) are Faile's points of sale where the new HOT/Iconic works are sold. Based on what has been sold so far on Papermonster, it looks like PM is used for revenue generation and not releasing their top knotch images and works. IMO |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by 1800garrett on Jun 8, 2011 23:42:47 GMT 1, Some people may not like individual Faile images, though what often goes over looked is that Faile uses these carefully crafted images in their more complex works where multipal images are torn together to make something like the image below that contains at least 4 faile images:
This is just one of many examples.
Some people may not like individual Faile images, though what often goes over looked is that Faile uses these carefully crafted images in their more complex works where multipal images are torn together to make something like the image below that contains at least 4 faile images: This is just one of many examples. |
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chaserawr
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by chaserawr on Jun 8, 2011 23:47:09 GMT 1, I think they goofed up a bit. The paper monster releases should be reserved for their iconic images that we have come to love. I don't think it's the best format for experimental off the cuff releases like this one. Hopefully their show this month doesn't disappoint. Your statement makes no sense. New shows, Faile.net and Perry R (their dealer) are Faile's points of sale where the new HOT/Iconic works are sold. Based on what has been sold so far on Papermonster, it looks like PM is used for revenue generation and not releasing their top knotch images and works. IMO
I didn't say PM should be where Faile puts their NEWEST HOTTEST works out to the public. I'm saying that PM releases usually are in the price point that most of us can afford so if they wanted to generate revenue, you'd think they would choose images that appeal to the masses not niche pieces from past shows.
Wouldn't it be nice if you could count on a nice new iconic image from Faile through PM once a year for 800$?
I think they goofed up a bit. The paper monster releases should be reserved for their iconic images that we have come to love. I don't think it's the best format for experimental off the cuff releases like this one. Hopefully their show this month doesn't disappoint. Your statement makes no sense. New shows, Faile.net and Perry R (their dealer) are Faile's points of sale where the new HOT/Iconic works are sold. Based on what has been sold so far on Papermonster, it looks like PM is used for revenue generation and not releasing their top knotch images and works. IMO I didn't say PM should be where Faile puts their NEWEST HOTTEST works out to the public. I'm saying that PM releases usually are in the price point that most of us can afford so if they wanted to generate revenue, you'd think they would choose images that appeal to the masses not niche pieces from past shows. Wouldn't it be nice if you could count on a nice new iconic image from Faile through PM once a year for 800$? |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by boaty on Jun 9, 2011 0:49:33 GMT 1, iEnjoyed some of the posts thru the thread... iLove the macro balanced collective perspective...iBought ;D
iEnjoyed some of the posts thru the thread... iLove the macro balanced collective perspective...iBought ;D
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by naughtyshorty on Jun 9, 2011 1:18:24 GMT 1, Lovely colour but a really really s**t image. Not for me
thought i was possibly being a bit harsh so just took another look.
colours are still lovely, and image is still really really shit.
:-(
Lovely colour but a really really s**t image. Not for me thought i was possibly being a bit harsh so just took another look. colours are still lovely, and image is still really really shit. :-( |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by mikeT on Jun 9, 2011 2:28:44 GMT 1, Les Demoiselles d'Avignon was revolutionary and controversial, and led to wide anger and disagreement, even amongst his closest associates and friends.
Disruption is being ahead of your time.
Les Demoiselles d'Avignon was revolutionary and controversial, and led to wide anger and disagreement, even amongst his closest associates and friends.
Disruption is being ahead of your time.
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by 1800garrett on Jun 9, 2011 4:06:08 GMT 1, The chimps will have the last laugh
The chimps will have the last laugh |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by boaty on Jun 9, 2011 12:04:50 GMT 1, The chimps will have the last laugh...
chimps rule!...if only I had a Laugh Now to go alongside this and Zooicide....it would "complete me" ;D
The chimps will have the last laugh... chimps rule!...if only I had a Laugh Now to go alongside this and Zooicide....it would "complete me" ;D |
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Rene Gagnon
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Rene Gagnon on Jun 9, 2011 12:54:58 GMT 1, The chimps will have the last laugh... chimps rule!...if only I had a Laugh Now to go alongside this and Zooicide....it would "complete me" ;D
now that combo would be incredible. i personally like most pieces with chimps, they remind me why i am the way i am.
The chimps will have the last laugh... chimps rule!...if only I had a Laugh Now to go alongside this and Zooicide....it would "complete me" ;D now that combo would be incredible. i personally like most pieces with chimps, they remind me why i am the way i am. |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by tpeazy on Jun 9, 2011 14:37:34 GMT 1, I just bit the bullet and picked one up.
I just bit the bullet and picked one up.
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by bazzj04 on Jun 9, 2011 14:42:42 GMT 1, I just bit the bullet and picked one up.
sweet love the print , just a bit too steep for me at moment, with the framing and all that ,
I just bit the bullet and picked one up. sweet love the print , just a bit too steep for me at moment, with the framing and all that , |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by jones27 on Jun 9, 2011 16:41:36 GMT 1, The chimps will have the last laugh
I think the print would look better if they cropped it this size. Theres a lot of dead space in this print, mainly because we're used to compositions which are layered 4/5 times with other imagery from Faile. This is a general problem with all PM editions tho (with the exception of Tender Forever)
The chimps will have the last laugh I think the print would look better if they cropped it this size. Theres a lot of dead space in this print, mainly because we're used to compositions which are layered 4/5 times with other imagery from Faile. This is a general problem with all PM editions tho (with the exception of Tender Forever) |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by tpeazy on Jun 9, 2011 21:56:16 GMT 1, Just got a quote from my Framer here in NY.
$550
Just got a quote from my Framer here in NY.
$550
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Shoeless
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Shoeless on Jun 9, 2011 22:25:21 GMT 1, Even if and when this does sell out it will still only go for cost on eBay so theres plenty of time to make your mind up
One has already "sold" on ebay.......$1400
(if honest sale)
Even if and when this does sell out it will still only go for cost on eBay so theres plenty of time to make your mind up One has already "sold" on ebay.......$1400 (if honest sale) |
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Philippe
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Philippe on Jun 10, 2011 6:22:15 GMT 1, hey chaserawr, the only thing with say releasing a happens every day PM print would be it devalues the lower editions. One could argue it makes them more popular but it basically satiates the potential faile investor without having to step up to the plate so to speak. All in all I think it's just Faile looking out for their collectors.
hey chaserawr, the only thing with say releasing a happens every day PM print would be it devalues the lower editions. One could argue it makes them more popular but it basically satiates the potential faile investor without having to step up to the plate so to speak. All in all I think it's just Faile looking out for their collectors.
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pcant
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by pcant on Jun 10, 2011 7:08:04 GMT 1, Maybe those flippers are banking on people being dim, but there are now two Fashion Chimps on eBay while the print is still available at PM for $1000 less than the eBay price.
Maybe those flippers are banking on people being dim, but there are now two Fashion Chimps on eBay while the print is still available at PM for $1000 less than the eBay price.
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chaturz
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by chaturz on Jun 13, 2011 14:11:35 GMT 1, the guy who sold this print for $1400 also has the invader1000 signed map for sale at a rediculous price considering its still available on the invader site. Stuff like this really gets to me as the amount of times ive lost out just to end up buying the extortionate flipped print when ive managed to get enough cash for it is rediculous....Im gonna get a cuppa (tea)
the guy who sold this print for $1400 also has the invader1000 signed map for sale at a rediculous price considering its still available on the invader site. Stuff like this really gets to me as the amount of times ive lost out just to end up buying the extortionate flipped print when ive managed to get enough cash for it is rediculous....Im gonna get a cuppa (tea)
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by wentos on Jun 13, 2011 23:14:21 GMT 1, Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?!
Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?!
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by A.R.T. on Jun 13, 2011 23:31:18 GMT 1, Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?!
I think the image is fine. If these were $300 like the flag was, these would be sold out.
Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?! I think the image is fine. If these were $300 like the flag was, these would be sold out. |
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by Deleted on Jun 13, 2011 23:55:17 GMT 1, Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?!
Image is great, size and price not so
Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?! Image is great, size and price not so |
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pcant
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by pcant on Jun 13, 2011 23:56:59 GMT 1, Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?! I think the image is fine. If these were $300 like the flag was, these would be sold out.
One of the ideas I've seen bandied about on this board, especially after the CYW release, is that prints should cost a little more and that would deter the flippers. How much more, and whether it would work, are of course up for massive debate, but the $800 price does seem to have deterred the flippers while being still reasonably attainable. The image is, as someone pointed out earlier, a little weird and odd, not for everyone. And it's big. But if you like it (as I do) having a chance to get one was better than F5-ing your arm off for nothing.
Still available on the site...reckon they are regretting the image choice now?! I think the image is fine. If these were $300 like the flag was, these would be sold out. One of the ideas I've seen bandied about on this board, especially after the CYW release, is that prints should cost a little more and that would deter the flippers. How much more, and whether it would work, are of course up for massive debate, but the $800 price does seem to have deterred the flippers while being still reasonably attainable. The image is, as someone pointed out earlier, a little weird and odd, not for everyone. And it's big. But if you like it (as I do) having a chance to get one was better than F5-ing your arm off for nothing. |
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chaturz
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FAILE Large Edition Prints - Paper Monster - June?, by chaturz on Jun 14, 2011 1:08:08 GMT 1, I see your point pcant if a print sold for more but below secondary market price the profit margin for flippers may not be worth it however how many of us may be in danger of being priced out of "affordable" art. Truth is even with the divided opinion, relatively high price and ongoing availability, there are still some being flipped on ebay.
I must say I do like papermonsters ordering system though!
I see your point pcant if a print sold for more but below secondary market price the profit margin for flippers may not be worth it however how many of us may be in danger of being priced out of "affordable" art. Truth is even with the divided opinion, relatively high price and ongoing availability, there are still some being flipped on ebay.
I must say I do like papermonsters ordering system though!
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. faile could keep producing what buyers want. but last i checked we (artists) do it for ourselves and could honestly give two shites about what people think we should produce. if we create what you want we will never progress and we FAILE. 
