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Dran โข Art Thief, by met on Jun 2, 2020 17:12:50 GMT 1, For sale is my Dran Art Thief, purchased directly from POW. Year 2011 Screen Print on 300 GSM archival paper Signed and numbered by the artist Size 36.5 x 37 cms Edition 50 London based. Due to frame would prefer socially distanced meet up. ยฃ1650 ono Serious enquires only please ๐  
Me like. Do you know if the de-framed picture in the background references a real painting? I recall seeing an edition of this one with Van Gogh's sunflowers. Don't recognise the image here. Regardless, it's a great piece. GLWS!
On this occasion, I suspect the de-framed piece doesn't refer to a specific painting or artist. It may just represent an anonymous abstract painting.
As a speculative stretch, one could try making the case that it references the work of Hermann Nitsch.
For sale is my Dran Art Thief, purchased directly from POW. Year 2011 Screen Print on 300 GSM archival paper Signed and numbered by the artist Size 36.5 x 37 cms Edition 50 London based. Due to frame would prefer socially distanced meet up. ยฃ1650 ono Serious enquires only please ๐ Me like. Do you know if the de-framed picture in the background references a real painting? I recall seeing an edition of this one with Van Gogh's sunflowers. Don't recognise the image here. Regardless, it's a great piece. GLWS! On this occasion, I suspect the de-framed piece doesn't refer to a specific painting or artist. It may just represent an anonymous abstract painting. As a speculative stretch, one could try making the case that it references the work of Hermann Nitsch. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by mehor on Jun 2, 2020 18:27:46 GMT 1, must be as dran imho referenced each one to another artist?โ
must be as dran imho referenced each one to another artist?โ
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Jun 18, 2020 20:07:05 GMT 1, Further price drop for this classic, hand finished print.
ยฃ1250
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Dran โข Art Thief, by e3massive on Jun 18, 2020 22:25:54 GMT 1, I do like this, but I must keep strong and say no. Good luck with the sale
I do like this, but I must keep strong and say no. Good luck with the sale
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Jun 22, 2020 22:42:43 GMT 1, -SCAM ALERT-
Whilst browsing Artsy I just discovered that a "gallery" Arts Limited has without my consent listed my print for sale, even using my personal photo! ๐ณ
At no point have I knowingly had contact with this company or agreed to consign/sell through them.
Please see below for Artsy screenshot, link to the Artsy listing and Arts Limited website.
www.artsy.net/artwork/dran-dran-art-theif
www.arts-limited.com
-SCAM ALERT-Whilst browsing Artsy I just discovered that a "gallery" Arts Limited has without my consent listed my print for sale, even using my personal photo! ๐ณ At no point have I knowingly had contact with this company or agreed to consign/sell through them. Please see below for Artsy screenshot, link to the Artsy listing and Arts Limited website. www.artsy.net/artwork/dran-dran-art-theifwww.arts-limited.com
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Jun 22, 2020 23:23:05 GMT 1, It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐
Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners.
As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help.
Kind regards,
Artsy Support Team
It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐
Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners.
As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help.
Kind regards,
Artsy Support Team
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Dran โข Art Thief, by irl1 on Jun 22, 2020 23:34:11 GMT 1, It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐ Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners. As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help. Kind regards, Artsy Support Team
Try purchase it from the Gallery and see what they say.
It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐ Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners. As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help. Kind regards, Artsy Support Team Try purchase it from the Gallery and see what they say. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by .dappy on Jun 23, 2020 0:14:28 GMT 1, ... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ...
... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ...
... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ...
... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ...
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Dran โข Art Thief, by mrizzle on Jun 23, 2020 6:23:26 GMT 1, ... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ...
Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627
... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ... Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627 |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by .dappy on Jun 23, 2020 10:12:41 GMT 1, ... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ... Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627
... I saw that and I do not believe that it is the same gallery ...
... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ... Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627... I saw that and I do not believe that it is the same gallery ... |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by met on Jun 23, 2020 12:34:58 GMT 1, -SCAM ALERT-Whilst browsing Artsy I just discovered that a "gallery" Arts Limited has without my consent listed my print for sale, even using my personal photo! ๐ณ At no point have I knowingly had contact with this company or agreed to consign/sell through them. Please see below for Artsy screenshot, link to the Artsy listing and Arts Limited website.  www.artsy.net/artwork/dran-dran-art-theifwww.arts-limited.com It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐ Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners. As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help. Kind regards, Artsy Support Team
In my view, it probably isn't a scam or fraud. But it's certainly underhanded, deceitful behaviour. Arguably a form of undisclosed dropshipping:
(i) Arts Limited manages to secure a sale of your artwork for ยฃ1,995 and is in receipt of the cash;
(ii) Arts Limited then purchases the artwork from you for ยฃ1,250 or less, and perhaps even gets you to post directly to the end buyer; and
(iii) Arts Limited pockets the difference of ยฃ745+.
This is the kind of sleazy dishonesty that businesses like Guy Hepner Gallery are well-known for โ including among other galleries from whom Hepner "borrows" images of art those galleries have for sale (typically without their knowledge or express consent). To illustrate, one recent example is what occurred with the set of Invader prints owned by Elephants and Castles:
urbanartassociation.com/thread/163126/invader-aladdin-sane-full-mint
A couple of options for you:
1. Pick up the phone, give Arts Limited a call, and see what the person at the other end of the line has to say. Tel: 020 8115 3753
2. Do nothing and let Arts Limited try to sell the artwork in their unprofessional way. You may end up with your current asking price of ยฃ1,250 more quickly.
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... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ... Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627
Which postcode did you use when searching?
S.H. Arts Limited is highly unlikely to be the business behind Arts Limited. The former is owned by Sophie Hicks, a reputable architect (and mother of Edie Campbell). She really doesn't come across as the type of person who would stoop to the level that Arts Limited has.
-SCAM ALERT-Whilst browsing Artsy I just discovered that a "gallery" Arts Limited has without my consent listed my print for sale, even using my personal photo! ๐ณ At no point have I knowingly had contact with this company or agreed to consign/sell through them. Please see below for Artsy screenshot, link to the Artsy listing and Arts Limited website. www.artsy.net/artwork/dran-dran-art-theifwww.arts-limited.com It's ok to misrepresent and attempt to carry out fraud on Artsy, see below for their response ๐๐๐ Thank you for reaching out to Artsy and for sharing your concerns about "DRAN 'ART THEIF'" (2011). Kindly note that Artsy is not involved in the internal operations of our gallery partners. As a next step, will you please reach out to Arts Limited directly with your questions about this work? You may contact them via email at info@arts-limited.com. Please let us know if they do not respond or if you would like us to facilitate a direct connection and we're happy to help. Kind regards, Artsy Support Team In my view, it probably isn't a scam or fraud. But it's certainly underhanded, deceitful behaviour. Arguably a form of undisclosed dropshipping: (i) Arts Limited manages to secure a sale of your artwork for ยฃ1,995 and is in receipt of the cash; (ii) Arts Limited then purchases the artwork from you for ยฃ1,250 or less, and perhaps even gets you to post directly to the end buyer; and (iii) Arts Limited pockets the difference of ยฃ745+. This is the kind of sleazy dishonesty that businesses like Guy Hepner Gallery are well-known for โ including among other galleries from whom Hepner "borrows" images of art those galleries have for sale (typically without their knowledge or express consent). To illustrate, one recent example is what occurred with the set of Invader prints owned by Elephants and Castles: urbanartassociation.com/thread/163126/invader-aladdin-sane-full-mintA couple of options for you:1. Pick up the phone, give Arts Limited a call, and see what the person at the other end of the line has to say. Tel: 020 8115 3753 2. Do nothing and let Arts Limited try to sell the artwork in their unprofessional way. You may end up with your current asking price of ยฃ1,250 more quickly. __________ ... I don't even believe that Arts Limited is a limited company, unless ALtd is a 'trading name' ... ... based in St John's Wood, London but no address ... Could this be the โgalleryโ in question? Name seems to match up with the listed postcode on their website. Full address in company overview: beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03756627Which postcode did you use when searching? S.H. Arts Limited is highly unlikely to be the business behind Arts Limited. The former is owned by Sophie Hicks, a reputable architect (and mother of Edie Campbell). She really doesn't come across as the type of person who would stoop to the level that Arts Limited has. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by mrizzle on Jun 23, 2020 13:07:37 GMT 1, ... I saw that and I do not believe that it is the same gallery ...
No, right enough, that doesnโt seem to match after all. Rats.
... I saw that and I do not believe that it is the same gallery ... No, right enough, that doesnโt seem to match after all. Rats. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by mrizzle on Jun 23, 2020 13:08:58 GMT 1, met, I used the one from their website - NW8 8JP.
met, I used the one from their website - NW8 8JP.
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Jun 23, 2020 13:15:28 GMT 1, Considering the title of the print, there's something beautifully ironic about all of this.
Art imitating life, imitating life, imitating art.
I will call them shortly and ask for a viewing of the print.
The print is still availble should anyone be interested. For 24 hours only, please feel free to use the discount code Arts Ltd to gain a further ยฃ100 discount.
Considering the title of the print, there's something beautifully ironic about all of this.
Art imitating life, imitating life, imitating art.
I will call them shortly and ask for a viewing of the print.
The print is still availble should anyone be interested. For 24 hours only, please feel free to use the discount code Arts Ltd to gain a further ยฃ100 discount.
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Dran โข Art Thief, by irl1 on Jun 23, 2020 13:23:59 GMT 1, Considering the title of the print, there's something beautifully ironic about all of this. Art imitating life, imitating life, imitating art. I will call them shortly and ask for a viewing of the print. 
Crazy the way Artsy don't look into this, best of luck
Considering the title of the print, there's something beautifully ironic about all of this. Art imitating life, imitating life, imitating art. I will call them shortly and ask for a viewing of the print. DOH hope they don't smell a rat. Crazy the way Artsy don't look into this, best of luck |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by Dive Jedi on Jun 23, 2020 13:39:15 GMT 1, I will trade my Bristol Copper for any of the other posters.
Complete with POW tube.
I will trade my Bristol Copper for any of the other posters. Complete with POW tube. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by Mr-Brown on Jul 5, 2020 16:40:13 GMT 1, Is this still for sale ?
Is this still for sale ?
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Jul 5, 2020 17:06:58 GMT 1,
Yes it is. โ๏ธ
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Dran โข Art Thief, by Mr-Brown on Jul 6, 2020 14:37:10 GMT 1, I would like to buy it from you Can you private message me ?
I've also just sent you a friend request via Instagram (thebrowncollection1)
I would like to buy it from you Can you private message me ? I've also just sent you a friend request via Instagram (thebrowncollection1) |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Aug 16, 2020 16:46:43 GMT 1, Now sold โ๏ธ
Now sold โ๏ธ
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Dran โข Art Thief, by starburst on Aug 25, 2020 22:39:26 GMT 1, Thats a shame! beautiful piece...looks like Arts Limited brought it in the end, its still on their site!
Seems like there wasn't anything sinister at all, much ado about nothing, lol
Thats a shame! beautiful piece...looks like Arts Limited brought it in the end, its still on their site!
Seems like there wasn't anything sinister at all, much ado about nothing, lol
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Dran โข Art Thief, by fm1975 on Aug 25, 2020 22:48:03 GMT 1, Thats a shame! beautiful piece...looks like Arts Limited brought it in the end, its still on their site! Seems like there wasn't anything sinister at all, much ado about nothing, lol
Crazy Prices for everything at Arts Limited.
Not for me.
Thats a shame! beautiful piece...looks like Arts Limited brought it in the end, its still on their site! Seems like there wasn't anything sinister at all, much ado about nothing, lol Crazy Prices for everything at Arts Limited. Not for me. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by starburst on Aug 27, 2020 11:23:30 GMT 1, They are honestly a great gallery, i've brought a few times off them and prices are decent especially if you contact them & ask for a discount, they are always happy to assist. It quite bad that their name has been tarnished on this page, there are worst galleries out there, namely Enter Gallery (formerly known as Art Republic). Ive had a hideous experience with them!
They are honestly a great gallery, i've brought a few times off them and prices are decent especially if you contact them & ask for a discount, they are always happy to assist. It quite bad that their name has been tarnished on this page, there are worst galleries out there, namely Enter Gallery (formerly known as Art Republic). Ive had a hideous experience with them!
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Dran โข Art Thief, by DOH on Aug 27, 2020 12:17:58 GMT 1, They are honestly a great gallery, i've brought a few times off them and prices are decent especially if you contact them & ask for a discount, they are always happy to assist. It quite bad that their name has been tarnished on this page, there are worst galleries out there, namely Enter Gallery (formerly known as Art Republic). Ive had a hideous experience with them!
Or should we just agree that it's entrepreneurial?
I think a little name tarnish is in order.
They are honestly a great gallery, i've brought a few times off them and prices are decent especially if you contact them & ask for a discount, they are always happy to assist. It quite bad that their name has been tarnished on this page, there are worst galleries out there, namely Enter Gallery (formerly known as Art Republic). Ive had a hideous experience with them! Is it not a little presumptuous to advertise a private seller's work for sale on Artsy, (including using their personal phtotos), without seeking permission? Or should we just agree that it's entrepreneurial? I think a little name tarnish is in order. |
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Dran โข Art Thief, by starburst on Aug 27, 2020 21:38:07 GMT 1, I totally understand your point, i'm not condemning it, i'm just saying they brought it in the end so no real harm done. They tried the tactic, they lost, such is life. I'm glad you made the sale in the end thats the most important thing.
I've honestly had more poor experiences with other established galleries, i've even had a case with a experienced contemporary gallery, (I won't name names), that i brought a piece from paid in cash over ยฃ2500 and they strung me along for weeks for a receipt. Basically they claimed they will "email the receipt to me" when they really were just going to pocket the cash and not declare. Now that is what I call rogue trade!
I totally understand your point, i'm not condemning it, i'm just saying they brought it in the end so no real harm done. They tried the tactic, they lost, such is life. I'm glad you made the sale in the end thats the most important thing.
I've honestly had more poor experiences with other established galleries, i've even had a case with a experienced contemporary gallery, (I won't name names), that i brought a piece from paid in cash over ยฃ2500 and they strung me along for weeks for a receipt. Basically they claimed they will "email the receipt to me" when they really were just going to pocket the cash and not declare. Now that is what I call rogue trade!
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Dran โข Art Thief, by eldukerman 212 on Oct 12, 2020 14:47:37 GMT 1, hi all. i am not going to be hanging this anytime soon and would prefer the cash at this point instead. bought it for $1545 last year and would like to clear that after PP fees and shipping if possible but will entertain offers near that. send PM if interested. thanks!
hi all. i am not going to be hanging this anytime soon and would prefer the cash at this point instead. bought it for $1545 last year and would like to clear that after PP fees and shipping if possible but will entertain offers near that. send PM if interested. thanks!
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Dran โข Art Thief, by kai22 on Nov 10, 2023 22:58:47 GMT 1, For Sale: Dran Art Thief Hand-finished print - Mona Lisa - unique.
Published by POW (Pictures on Walls)
Arguably the best from the edition of only 50 unique prints.
Most of the Art Thief prints from the edition you would struggle to recognise the artist in question. This is the only one which references Da Vinciโs work, and the most famous artwork ever created, the Mona Lisa. This makes this Art Thief even funnier, as thief leaves behind the enigmatic Mona Lisa and steals just the frame.
Framed to conservation museum standards by Pauli in a solid wood, sprayed white box frame, floated, invisible joints.
unique provenance
price is negotiable via PM
Based in London
If you want an iconic hand-finished Dran from the POW era, this is the exemplar par excellence.
For Sale: Dran Art Thief Hand-finished print - Mona Lisa - unique. Published by POW (Pictures on Walls) Arguably the best from the edition of only 50 unique prints. Most of the Art Thief prints from the edition you would struggle to recognise the artist in question. This is the only one which references Da Vinciโs work, and the most famous artwork ever created, the Mona Lisa. This makes this Art Thief even funnier, as thief leaves behind the enigmatic Mona Lisa and steals just the frame. Framed to conservation museum standards by Pauli in a solid wood, sprayed white box frame, floated, invisible joints. unique provenance price is negotiable via PM Based in London If you want an iconic hand-finished Dran from the POW era, this is the exemplar par excellence. |
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