thisisanton
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November 2012
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by thisisanton on Dec 1, 2013 21:19:48 GMT 1, That's too funny. The tiles of choice is quite bad. Not to mention the head is a bit uneven.
That's too funny. The tiles of choice is quite bad. Not to mention the head is a bit uneven.
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street4RT
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May 2013
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by street4RT on Dec 1, 2013 21:26:23 GMT 1, OMG! How did he think he could ever get away with that ....
some people ...
OMG! How did he think he could ever get away with that ....
some people ...
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deckstar
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May 2008
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by deckstar on Dec 1, 2013 22:39:45 GMT 1, At least he's not saying it is a original invader piece, but changing his story once again sounds a bit dodgy to say the least!!!!
At least he's not saying it is a original invader piece, but changing his story once again sounds a bit dodgy to say the least!!!!
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deckstar
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May 2008
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by deckstar on Dec 2, 2013 19:11:53 GMT 1, 10 mins left and 1 bid! Grab a BARGAIN!
10 mins left and 1 bid! Grab a BARGAIN!
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floubi
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June 2011
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by floubi on Dec 2, 2013 19:58:47 GMT 1, 10 mins left and 1 bid! Grab a BARGAIN! I can't believe someone bid on it... I hope it's himself.....
10 mins left and 1 bid! Grab a BARGAIN! I can't believe someone bid on it... I hope it's himself.....
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by concrete jungle on May 25, 2022 23:32:27 GMT 1, Iโve owned a legit one of these in the past, and recollect the A was indeed crossed. Iโve noticed a few dodgy sellers from Spain on the Bay recently - the never ending supply of POW Banksy soup cans (poster) being a good (bad) exampleโฆโฆ.
Others may have more insight but Iโd admit Iโd be worried. You probably need to gather up as much evidence of potential fakery as possible before you go back to Catawikiโฆโฆ.
Iโve owned a legit one of these in the past, and recollect the A was indeed crossed. Iโve noticed a few dodgy sellers from Spain on the Bay recently - the never ending supply of POW Banksy soup cans (poster) being a good (bad) exampleโฆโฆ.
Others may have more insight but Iโd admit Iโd be worried. You probably need to gather up as much evidence of potential fakery as possible before you go back to Catawikiโฆโฆ.
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Buttercup NYC
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October 2020
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Buttercup NYC on May 25, 2022 23:40:44 GMT 1, Mine is crossed but from 2006, not 2007. Maybe he switched it up?
Mine is crossed but from 2006, not 2007. Maybe he switched it up?
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analogtrash
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May 2010
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by analogtrash on May 26, 2022 0:29:12 GMT 1, As a side note do you think he has any regrets about making such a complex sig when he has to sign thousands of things?
As a side note do you think he has any regrets about making such a complex sig when he has to sign thousands of things?
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DAVID HOCKNEY
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January 2021
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by DAVID HOCKNEY on May 26, 2022 0:37:21 GMT 1, Your Shining Kubrick from catawiki is fake. The Alex you bought on eBay is fake. It's the same seller. He also sold another fake Alex on catawiki with the same edition number.
Your Shining Kubrick from catawiki is fake. The Alex you bought on eBay is fake. It's the same seller. He also sold another fake Alex on catawiki with the same edition number.
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Wallet Invaded on May 26, 2022 2:53:41 GMT 1, Damn. Thank you for the responses. I really let my guard down with Catawiki because of their "experts". Do you think there is any recourse? Any advice on how to approach this with Catawiki or is this pretty much done for me. For the record I did not purchase the Ebay one, I am a lot more skeptical about Ebay which is what set me off to look more closely at what I purchased from Cata.
Damn. Thank you for the responses. I really let my guard down with Catawiki because of their "experts". Do you think there is any recourse? Any advice on how to approach this with Catawiki or is this pretty much done for me. For the record I did not purchase the Ebay one, I am a lot more skeptical about Ebay which is what set me off to look more closely at what I purchased from Cata.
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met
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June 2009
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by met on May 26, 2022 3:04:51 GMT 1, Hi - first post here. I'm hoping someone can help me figure out if I got high level scammed. A bit of back story.. Purchased my first In vader print from Catawiki auctions a month ago. Received it with original receipt and all POW related material. Stored it away and didn't think anything of it until "Alex" came up for auction recently on Eb ay. The seller messaged me 2 days before the auction ended explaining that he would be away and that he can end it early with me being the winner. Price seemed a bit cheap but not terribly but it got me looking at things a bit closer. I noticed right away that the A in the signature is not closed. This print was coming from Spain and set off some markers reminding me that mine was from Spain as well. I checked my print and the A is not closed as well. Link attached for the print I bought - along with images from both prints explained in the post. Thank you! www.catawiki.com/en/l/55797679-invader-1969-rubik-kubrick-ii-signed
Wallet Invaded โ Sadly, the February 2022 Catawiki link you helpfully posted was corrupted by a recent, automated change to this forum, one that switches all references to popular artists into eBay advertisements.
Hopefully, the following link will work:
www.catawiki.com/en/l/55797679
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To reiterate Fred West Country Prince's earlier comment, you were defrauded.
What you presently own is a counterfeit Invader (probably a giclรฉe, not a screenprint) and counterfeit provenance documentation.
I won't disclose the multiple tells, to avoid better educating the scammers who frequent this place โ but my certainty here is 100%.
And "100%" means no doubt whatsoever. In other words, I'd be comfortable betting my life that the above assessment is correct.
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Reach out to Anthony Chrisp, the so-called expert at Catawiki, and demand an immediate refund.
This fake Invader should never have slipped through his net. It leads me to believe that Chrisp:
(i) is ignorant / incompetent; or
(ii) is dishonest; or
(iii) is recklessly irresponsible and unprofessional on matters of authenticity; or
(iv) was asleep at the wheel throughout the duration of the Catawiki auction.
28 photos accompanying the Catawiki listing:
[Scamming 101, Rule 73: Provide an excessive number of photographs when selling, to give potential marks the impression that you are forthcoming and transparent, thereby enhancing both your credibility and appearance of trustworthiness.]
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Your Catawiki seller is likely to be the eBay fraudster, visualgallery*. See this forum thread*.
They also sold a counterfeit Rubik Kubrik (Alex) on Catawiki in December 2020. And it looks like that sale was on Anthony Chrisp's watch as well.
Under the circumstances, perhaps Chrisp would be willing to provide some details on the identity of Catawiki user 834412d:
www.catawiki.com/en/l/42902287
Hi - first post here. I'm hoping someone can help me figure out if I got high level scammed. A bit of back story.. Purchased my first In vader print from Catawiki auctions a month ago. Received it with original receipt and all POW related material. Stored it away and didn't think anything of it until "Alex" came up for auction recently on Eb ay. The seller messaged me 2 days before the auction ended explaining that he would be away and that he can end it early with me being the winner. Price seemed a bit cheap but not terribly but it got me looking at things a bit closer. I noticed right away that the A in the signature is not closed. This print was coming from Spain and set off some markers reminding me that mine was from Spain as well. I checked my print and the A is not closed as well. Link attached for the print I bought - along with images from both prints explained in the post. Thank you! www.catawiki.com/en/l/55797679-invader-1969-rubik-kubrick-ii-signed
Wallet Invaded โ Sadly, the February 2022 Catawiki link you helpfully posted was corrupted by a recent, automated change to this forum, one that switches all references to popular artists into eBay advertisements.
Hopefully, the following link will work:
www.catawiki.com/en/l/55797679
__________
To reiterate Fred West Country Prince's earlier comment, you were defrauded.
What you presently own is a counterfeit Invader (probably a giclรฉe, not a screenprint) and counterfeit provenance documentation.
I won't disclose the multiple tells, to avoid better educating the scammers who frequent this place โ but my certainty here is 100%.
And "100%" means no doubt whatsoever. In other words, I'd be comfortable betting my life that the above assessment is correct.
__________
Reach out to Anthony Chrisp, the so-called expert at Catawiki, and demand an immediate refund.
This fake Invader should never have slipped through his net. It leads me to believe that Chrisp:
(i) is ignorant / incompetent; or
(ii) is dishonest; or
(iii) is recklessly irresponsible and unprofessional on matters of authenticity; or
(iv) was asleep at the wheel throughout the duration of the Catawiki auction.
28 photos accompanying the Catawiki listing:
[Scamming 101, Rule 73: Provide an excessive number of photographs when selling, to give potential marks the impression that you are forthcoming and transparent, thereby enhancing both your credibility and appearance of trustworthiness.]
__________
Your Catawiki seller is likely to be the eBay fraudster, visualgallery*. See this forum thread*.
They also sold a counterfeit Rubik Kubrik (Alex) on Catawiki in December 2020. And it looks like that sale was on Anthony Chrisp's watch as well.
Under the circumstances, perhaps Chrisp would be willing to provide some details on the identity of Catawiki user 834412d:
www.catawiki.com/en/l/42902287
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Wallet Invaded on May 26, 2022 3:29:04 GMT 1, Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned.
Also no need for Anthony, here are the details :
LORENZO AGUADO MINAYA Calle Chopera, paseo 38 local 6 - ARTCOLLECTOR 28045 MADRID Spain
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned.
Also no need for Anthony, here are the details :
LORENZO AGUADO MINAYA Calle Chopera, paseo 38 local 6 - ARTCOLLECTOR 28045 MADRID Spain
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met
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June 2009
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by met on May 26, 2022 3:35:55 GMT 1, Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned.
It is very much worth trying, while being politely forceful and persistent, especially because this is a clear case of fraud.
If unsuccessful with Catawiki, contact the fraud department of the issuer of the debit or credit card you used for your payment.
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned.
It is very much worth trying, while being politely forceful and persistent, especially because this is a clear case of fraud.
If unsuccessful with Catawiki, contact the fraud department of the issuer of the debit or credit card you used for your payment.
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met
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June 2009
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by met on May 26, 2022 3:40:13 GMT 1, Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned. Also no need for Anthony, here are the details :
LORENZO AGUADO MINAYA Calle Chopera, paseo 38 local 6 - ARTCOLLECTOR 28045 MADRID Spain
That's very helpful. Thank you.
It gives other collectors here a heads-up on at least one name to keep an eye out for.
Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response. Man I feel like a sucker. I have a feeling I have a pretty uphill battle ahead to get a refund almost two months later. Its a shame, I was in the middle of a move so pretty much kept the print sealed. Lesson learned. Also no need for Anthony, here are the details :
LORENZO AGUADO MINAYA Calle Chopera, paseo 38 local 6 - ARTCOLLECTOR 28045 MADRID Spain
That's very helpful. Thank you.
It gives other collectors here a heads-up on at least one name to keep an eye out for.
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briw
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May 2022
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by briw on May 26, 2022 8:18:11 GMT 1, Thanks guys, I was watching the Alex that was on eBay, noticed it got taken down then readded with a Buy it now for 6K USD. I was tempted but luckily I read this thread.
Thanks guys, I was watching the Alex that was on eBay, noticed it got taken down then readded with a Buy it now for 6K USD. I was tempted but luckily I read this thread.
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compound
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January 2022
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by compound on May 26, 2022 10:49:48 GMT 1, Antony Crisp, is on this forum. Has been for years, uses a different name now.
Antony Crisp, is on this forum. Has been for years, uses a different name now.
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dan993c2
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November 2020
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by dan993c2 on May 26, 2022 13:02:52 GMT 1, I raised the possibility of fake Invader prints a couple of years ago because of the rise in value of his prints. Maybe COAs will become needed for Invader as I mentioned then.
I raised the possibility of fake Invader prints a couple of years ago because of the rise in value of his prints. Maybe COAs will become needed for Invader as I mentioned then.
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Wallet Invaded on May 26, 2022 13:20:12 GMT 1, I'm happy the thread at least prevented someone from going through what I am currently dealing with. Unfortunately it looks like it still got scooped up pretty quickly, sold within an hour I think. This is after I called Ebay to notify them that this print is fake. Be careful out there.
I'm happy the thread at least prevented someone from going through what I am currently dealing with. Unfortunately it looks like it still got scooped up pretty quickly, sold within an hour I think. This is after I called Ebay to notify them that this print is fake. Be careful out there.
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Monkey
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January 2016
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Monkey on May 26, 2022 20:08:15 GMT 1, Damn i really love the knowledge shared on this forum I would have been tempted by those prints without this thread
Are there also doubts about POW Space One prints ? Bought one on secondary few months ago and would be really sad if itโs fake
Damn i really love the knowledge shared on this forum I would have been tempted by those prints without this thread
Are there also doubts about POW Space One prints ? Bought one on secondary few months ago and would be really sad if itโs fake
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ElMandrake
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April 2022
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by ElMandrake on Jun 4, 2022 8:23:48 GMT 1, He's also selling a bunch of other fake "hand-signed" prints by other artists and needs to be reported and shut down...
He's also selling a bunch of other fake "hand-signed" prints by other artists and needs to be reported and shut down...
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Wanchope
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February 2020
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Wanchope on Jun 4, 2022 8:54:26 GMT 1, 100% and itโs easy to report so letโs all report him/her
100% and itโs easy to report so letโs all report him/her
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Peter Bengtsen on Jun 4, 2022 11:21:59 GMT 1,
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dan993c2
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November 2020
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by dan993c2 on Jun 4, 2022 16:15:28 GMT 1, These are shockingly bad ๐ณ
These are shockingly bad ๐ณ
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Lazarus II
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August 2019
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Lazarus II on Jun 4, 2022 17:14:01 GMT 1, The Invasion looks like it has been drawn by The Viz artists when they pisstake old british comics, Black Bag springs to mind.
The Invasion looks like it has been drawn by The Viz artists when they pisstake old british comics, Black Bag springs to mind.
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BEWARE โข Fake Invader Prints, by Wallet Invaded on Jun 27, 2022 14:05:21 GMT 1, I wanted to provide a quick update to anyone who visited this original post. I spent quite a lot of time looking at every high resolution Jack image edition I could find on this site. After compiling a signature and edition number collage from multiple editions I reached out to Catawiki with my findings. I am pleased to say that the experts over there did agree with everyone here that this is indeed a fraudulent print and they are issuing a full refund. The process was actually very smooth and professional and has bolstered my confidence in the platform. This is certainly a lesson for everyone involved, sounds like there will be a lot more scrutiny with Invader pieces moving forward. I just want to thank everyone on here for taking the time to confirm my suspicions. The print is out of circulation and buyers are a lot more protected now that at least one major auction platform is aware of the situation.
I wanted to provide a quick update to anyone who visited this original post. I spent quite a lot of time looking at every high resolution Jack image edition I could find on this site. After compiling a signature and edition number collage from multiple editions I reached out to Catawiki with my findings. I am pleased to say that the experts over there did agree with everyone here that this is indeed a fraudulent print and they are issuing a full refund. The process was actually very smooth and professional and has bolstered my confidence in the platform. This is certainly a lesson for everyone involved, sounds like there will be a lot more scrutiny with Invader pieces moving forward. I just want to thank everyone on here for taking the time to confirm my suspicions. The print is out of circulation and buyers are a lot more protected now that at least one major auction platform is aware of the situation.
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