Winter
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Winter on Aug 6, 2013 14:30:26 GMT 1, They're not really in the same league
They're not really in the same league
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dadaran
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by dadaran on Aug 6, 2013 14:34:55 GMT 1, @ bsimkin " I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc)....Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius."
Yes please
@ bsimkin " I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc)....Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius." Yes please
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by oe32 on Aug 6, 2013 14:39:23 GMT 1, They're not really in the same league spot on
They're not really in the same league spot on
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stvro22
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by stvro22 on Aug 6, 2013 14:43:25 GMT 1, I prefer RAE's work. One work tends to looks dfifferent from the rest. If you put most of Bast's work side by side they all look the same. Same composition. Same idea.
I prefer RAE's work. One work tends to looks dfifferent from the rest. If you put most of Bast's work side by side they all look the same. Same composition. Same idea.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by fielder on Aug 6, 2013 14:56:36 GMT 1, Bast is best.
Bast is best.
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ilmambo
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by ilmambo on Aug 6, 2013 15:23:24 GMT 1, I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either.
I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:47:44 GMT 1, Just spoke to Bast (real name Mark Creswell), he says that Dain (real name Bob Creswell) is his brother, he doesnt care about Raes stuff just like Rae doesnt care about his stuff, all propaganda as i thought. When Basquiat gets here later its gonna fkin kick off i reckon,he thinks they ripped off his work!.
Just spoke to Bast (real name Mark Creswell), he says that Dain (real name Bob Creswell) is his brother, he doesnt care about Raes stuff just like Rae doesnt care about his stuff, all propaganda as i thought. When Basquiat gets here later its gonna fkin kick off i reckon,he thinks they ripped off his work!.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:50:00 GMT 1, I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm I think because Bast had a really bad experience with a NY gallery who blackmailed him into doing another show otherwise he wouldn't get paid from sales from his website...so I hear anyway. I could be wrong though. Regardless, If someone slighted me, I would create some "art" based off a google search of "Outsider Art", maybe give some away, spend an inordinate amount of time on some forums, and build up a story to convince people I'm a street artist. That'll get people on my side.
I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm I think because Bast had a really bad experience with a NY gallery who blackmailed him into doing another show otherwise he wouldn't get paid from sales from his website...so I hear anyway. I could be wrong though. Regardless, If someone slighted me, I would create some "art" based off a google search of "Outsider Art", maybe give some away, spend an inordinate amount of time on some forums, and build up a story to convince people I'm a street artist. That'll get people on my side.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by angel41 on Aug 6, 2013 16:56:48 GMT 1, Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers.
Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:03:48 GMT 1, Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. Just like Jeffrey and Philip Ashwin, they got on great until one got fat then it was like shit creek at their home,arguement city.
Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. Just like Jeffrey and Philip Ashwin, they got on great until one got fat then it was like shit creek at their home,arguement city.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:05:50 GMT 1, I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either. Couldn't have said it better myself ilmambo. I think a lot of people think styles begin and end on this forum and within the street art world.
It says a lot about a person who seemingly is on top to take shots at artists who don't have his notoriety. Sadly this is not the first time Bast has been accused of stuff like this. Back when Ad Hoc Gallery in Brooklyn was in business I spoke to someone who said there had been numerous fall outs between Bast, Aiko and Faile over things he claimed were too much like his. Even going so far as sending nasty texts to Aiko.
Seems like a pattern here.
I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either. Couldn't have said it better myself ilmambo. I think a lot of people think styles begin and end on this forum and within the street art world. It says a lot about a person who seemingly is on top to take shots at artists who don't have his notoriety. Sadly this is not the first time Bast has been accused of stuff like this. Back when Ad Hoc Gallery in Brooklyn was in business I spoke to someone who said there had been numerous fall outs between Bast, Aiko and Faile over things he claimed were too much like his. Even going so far as sending nasty texts to Aiko. Seems like a pattern here.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:33:58 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
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johnnyh
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by johnnyh on Aug 6, 2013 17:46:28 GMT 1, Think they should just sort it out. For once and for all .........easy enough would suggest a neutral referee...
Possibly that great great English pacifist, philosopher and art critic Joey Barton.
No more spashing paint etc........... He can even do a New York accent especially for You Tube
Think they should just sort it out. For once and for all .........easy enough would suggest a neutral referee...
Possibly that great great English pacifist, philosopher and art critic Joey Barton.
No more spashing paint etc........... He can even do a New York accent especially for You Tube
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ilmambo
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by ilmambo on Aug 6, 2013 18:27:27 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls?
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls?
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stvro22
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by stvro22 on Aug 6, 2013 18:53:42 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls? Might explain the name change from "Amin" to "indespicableme"?
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls? Might explain the name change from "Amin" to "indespicableme"?
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londonboy
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by londonboy on Aug 6, 2013 18:59:11 GMT 1, Refreshing??
Or
Media playing ??
Refreshing??
Or
Media playing ??
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anarquee
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by anarquee on Aug 6, 2013 21:25:54 GMT 1, there are a few available here: masterspelavin.com/ they just enabled international shipping for those who live outside US
there are a few available here: masterspelavin.com/they just enabled international shipping for those who live outside US
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Street Art Fan on Aug 6, 2013 22:23:50 GMT 1, Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. Sigh. Sometimes you just can't win.
Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. Sigh. Sometimes you just can't win.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 22:39:03 GMT 1, how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned.
i changed the name because i just saw the movie
how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned.
i changed the name because i just saw the movie
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by bjornca on Aug 6, 2013 22:44:25 GMT 1, Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. I guess you can't win sometimes. That was more than a narrow tube if you bought from M&P - I didn't know they made them that small.
Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. I guess you can't win sometimes. That was more than a narrow tube if you bought from M&P - I didn't know they made them that small.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 23:02:30 GMT 1, how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned. i changed the name because i just saw the movie
Ha ha yeah right!
Ok I'll be changing my name to World War Z as I saw it the other day.
Hey I'm not getting involved in this silly Bast/Rae spat but that was quite a rubbish answer to why you changed your name - just own up and say why you decided to do this.
how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned. i changed the name because i just saw the movie Ha ha yeah right! Ok I'll be changing my name to World War Z as I saw it the other day. Hey I'm not getting involved in this silly Bast/Rae spat but that was quite a rubbish answer to why you changed your name - just own up and say why you decided to do this.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 23:05:31 GMT 1, The BAST piece in the Wooster show is an absolute corker!
The BAST piece in the Wooster show is an absolute corker!
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fnord
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by fnord on Aug 6, 2013 23:45:27 GMT 1, So apparently I need to get out on the street and bite BASTs style in order to get a response to my emails. Good to know.
So apparently I need to get out on the street and bite BASTs style in order to get a response to my emails. Good to know.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by twist65 on Aug 7, 2013 0:12:39 GMT 1, Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. they'll have to go a long way to top the Dassler brothers, now there's some impressive sibling rivalry!
quite hope this "feud" intensifies, might lead to some interesting, erm "collaborative" street work =]
Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. they'll have to go a long way to top the Dassler brothers, now there's some impressive sibling rivalry! quite hope this "feud" intensifies, might lead to some interesting, erm "collaborative" street work =]
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Gentle Mental on Aug 7, 2013 1:41:33 GMT 1, i wish bast would paint over my work. be an honor.
i wish bast would paint over my work. be an honor.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 1:56:11 GMT 1,
A vomit of hyperbole
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 8:47:22 GMT 1, ......as expected Basquiat rocked up here last night FFS,bad mood on elm street?... dont ask!, threw the butter and Abernethy's at the wall then went and booted the television in,suddenly little Peter Doherty seems like a nice quiet house guest. Anyhow, Basq reckons both Bast and Rae are s**te, his words not mine.
......as expected Basquiat rocked up here last night FFS,bad mood on elm street?... dont ask!, threw the butter and Abernethy's at the wall then went and booted the television in,suddenly little Peter Doherty seems like a nice quiet house guest. Anyhow, Basq reckons both Bast and Rae are s**te, his words not mine.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by fluxcapacitor on Aug 7, 2013 15:17:53 GMT 1, I really love both artists! A bit of graffiti beef is great. People have always been going over each other. It's fun and keeps things fresh.
First post btw
I really love both artists! A bit of graffiti beef is great. People have always been going over each other. It's fun and keeps things fresh. First post btw
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2013 15:23:53 GMT 1, I really love both artists! A bit of graffiti beef is great. People have always been going over each other. It's fun and keeps things fresh. First post btw Welcome on board the board flux.
I really love both artists! A bit of graffiti beef is great. People have always been going over each other. It's fun and keeps things fresh. First post btw Welcome on board the board flux.
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