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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by saint on Aug 6, 2013 11:17:20 GMT 1, This has been going on for ages, i'm sure something happened at the beginning of the year as well, i'll see if i can find it....
This has been going on for ages, i'm sure something happened at the beginning of the year as well, i'll see if i can find it....
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 11:40:25 GMT 1, I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods.
I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there?
Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book?
Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm
I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods.
I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there?
Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book?
Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by stvro22 on Aug 6, 2013 13:15:53 GMT 1, I hope you're not a betting man Rogermilla. Dain is in fact Bast's brother.
I hope you're not a betting man Rogermilla. Dain is in fact Bast's brother.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 13:35:39 GMT 1, Dain is definitely Bast's brother. He has also been accused by Bast of copying his style. So much so that Bast cut him off. If they all grew up together it only makes sense there are going to be certain similarities in their work. I've heard Bast's MO is to paint over other artists work often and some are applauding the fact that RAE spoke up.
Dain is definitely Bast's brother. He has also been accused by Bast of copying his style. So much so that Bast cut him off. If they all grew up together it only makes sense there are going to be certain similarities in their work. I've heard Bast's MO is to paint over other artists work often and some are applauding the fact that RAE spoke up.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by bsimkin on Aug 6, 2013 13:56:52 GMT 1, I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm
Interesting points. I always thought Rae's art started after he began brooklynite? Or atleast started seeing it on the forms such as this one. Whichever's the case, I'm not sure. I definitely see similarities in the two's styles especially with the found parts sculptures made from found objects around brooklyn. So if Rae's been influenced by Bast (who did a quite awesome show at brooklynite in 08), and Rae's also represented Dain (who's stuff looks like Bast), could Bast feel as though his work is getting MBW'd by style borrowers that want a piece of his market? I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc) so I don't see why he's not on board or at least accepting of Rae's recent recognition in the street art community. Just draws more attention to their collective work?
Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius.
I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm Interesting points. I always thought Rae's art started after he began brooklynite? Or atleast started seeing it on the forms such as this one. Whichever's the case, I'm not sure. I definitely see similarities in the two's styles especially with the found parts sculptures made from found objects around brooklyn. So if Rae's been influenced by Bast (who did a quite awesome show at brooklynite in 08), and Rae's also represented Dain (who's stuff looks like Bast), could Bast feel as though his work is getting MBW'd by style borrowers that want a piece of his market? I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc) so I don't see why he's not on board or at least accepting of Rae's recent recognition in the street art community. Just draws more attention to their collective work? Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Street Art Fan on Aug 6, 2013 14:11:26 GMT 1, Although it's dismaying to see this kind of thing happen, I suppose the truth is that this kind of behavior between artists is pretty common - not just in urban art but in other genres as well.
In The Lost Battle: Leonardo, Michaelangelo and the Artistic Duel That Defined the Renaissance, Jonathan Jones describes the rivalry that transpired when Leonardo and Michaelangelo were commissioned to paint dueling frescos in the same building.
In an interview on Amazon, he has this to say:
"Competition was set in the genes, so to speak, of western art by the great rivals of the Renaissance. At the birth of modernism a century ago, Picasso and Matisse constantly checked what the other was doing and tried to outdo it. Their relationship was quite similar to that of Leonardo and MichelangeloโPicasso and his friends threw darts at a painting by Matisse of his daughter that Matisse had given Picasso as a gift.
Artistic competition is very much alive today. To speak from my own patch, British art revolves around the Turner Prize that pitches artists like Damien Hirst and Anish Kapoor against one another. This controversial prize may not have spawned any new Leonardos but it has given British art a lot of ambition. I was a judge of the Turner Prize while I worked on The Lost Battles. I found it fascinating to compare the competitive spirit in different times and places."
Although it's dismaying to see this kind of thing happen, I suppose the truth is that this kind of behavior between artists is pretty common - not just in urban art but in other genres as well. In The Lost Battle: Leonardo, Michaelangelo and the Artistic Duel That Defined the Renaissance, Jonathan Jones describes the rivalry that transpired when Leonardo and Michaelangelo were commissioned to paint dueling frescos in the same building. In an interview on Amazon, he has this to say: "Competition was set in the genes, so to speak, of western art by the great rivals of the Renaissance. At the birth of modernism a century ago, Picasso and Matisse constantly checked what the other was doing and tried to outdo it. Their relationship was quite similar to that of Leonardo and MichelangeloโPicasso and his friends threw darts at a painting by Matisse of his daughter that Matisse had given Picasso as a gift. Artistic competition is very much alive today. To speak from my own patch, British art revolves around the Turner Prize that pitches artists like Damien Hirst and Anish Kapoor against one another. This controversial prize may not have spawned any new Leonardos but it has given British art a lot of ambition. I was a judge of the Turner Prize while I worked on The Lost Battles. I found it fascinating to compare the competitive spirit in different times and places."
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Street Art Fan on Aug 6, 2013 14:17:54 GMT 1, I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm Interesting points. I always thought Rae's art started after he began brooklynite? Or atleast started seeing it on the forms such as this one. Whichever's the case, I'm not sure. I definitely see similarities in the two's styles especially with the found parts sculptures made from found objects around brooklyn. So if Rae's been influenced by Bast (who did a quite awesome show at brooklynite in 08), and Rae's also represented Dain (who's stuff looks like Bast), could Bast feel as though his work is getting MBW'd by style borrowers that want a piece of his market? I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc) so I don't see why he's not on board or at least accepting of Rae's recent recognition in the street art community. Just draws more attention to their collective work? Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius. Excellent questions, great post. Thanks bsimkin :-)
I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm Interesting points. I always thought Rae's art started after he began brooklynite? Or atleast started seeing it on the forms such as this one. Whichever's the case, I'm not sure. I definitely see similarities in the two's styles especially with the found parts sculptures made from found objects around brooklyn. So if Rae's been influenced by Bast (who did a quite awesome show at brooklynite in 08), and Rae's also represented Dain (who's stuff looks like Bast), could Bast feel as though his work is getting MBW'd by style borrowers that want a piece of his market? I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc) so I don't see why he's not on board or at least accepting of Rae's recent recognition in the street art community. Just draws more attention to their collective work? Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius. Excellent questions, great post. Thanks bsimkin :-)
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Winter on Aug 6, 2013 14:30:26 GMT 1, They're not really in the same league
They're not really in the same league
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by dadaran on Aug 6, 2013 14:34:55 GMT 1, @ bsimkin " I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc)....Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius."
Yes please
@ bsimkin " I mean I always believe that great art is stolen art but Bast has a style no one can fully copy (not A.CE, Dain, etc)....Oh and I hope maybe Bast will release some prints again through his website as a result of this incident. Maybe it'll light some awesome fire under his collage building genius." Yes please
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by oe32 on Aug 6, 2013 14:39:23 GMT 1, They're not really in the same league spot on
They're not really in the same league spot on
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by stvro22 on Aug 6, 2013 14:43:25 GMT 1, I prefer RAE's work. One work tends to looks dfifferent from the rest. If you put most of Bast's work side by side they all look the same. Same composition. Same idea.
I prefer RAE's work. One work tends to looks dfifferent from the rest. If you put most of Bast's work side by side they all look the same. Same composition. Same idea.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by fielder on Aug 6, 2013 14:56:36 GMT 1, Bast is best.
Bast is best.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by ilmambo on Aug 6, 2013 15:23:24 GMT 1, I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either.
I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:47:44 GMT 1, Just spoke to Bast (real name Mark Creswell), he says that Dain (real name Bob Creswell) is his brother, he doesnt care about Raes stuff just like Rae doesnt care about his stuff, all propaganda as i thought. When Basquiat gets here later its gonna fkin kick off i reckon,he thinks they ripped off his work!.
Just spoke to Bast (real name Mark Creswell), he says that Dain (real name Bob Creswell) is his brother, he doesnt care about Raes stuff just like Rae doesnt care about his stuff, all propaganda as i thought. When Basquiat gets here later its gonna fkin kick off i reckon,he thinks they ripped off his work!.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:50:00 GMT 1, I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm I think because Bast had a really bad experience with a NY gallery who blackmailed him into doing another show otherwise he wouldn't get paid from sales from his website...so I hear anyway. I could be wrong though. Regardless, If someone slighted me, I would create some "art" based off a google search of "Outsider Art", maybe give some away, spend an inordinate amount of time on some forums, and build up a story to convince people I'm a street artist. That'll get people on my side.
I was told that BAST felt that Rae started to bite his style... and I guess there are similarities in their style/methods. I don't really know what Rae's work was like prior to him opening the Brooklynite gallery and BAST's show there? Rae has always seemed like a cool guy, but it could appear that Rae has taken a leaf outta BAST's book? Perhaps another reason why you don't see too many BAST shows... he doesn't trust too many people/galleries now! Hmmmm I think because Bast had a really bad experience with a NY gallery who blackmailed him into doing another show otherwise he wouldn't get paid from sales from his website...so I hear anyway. I could be wrong though. Regardless, If someone slighted me, I would create some "art" based off a google search of "Outsider Art", maybe give some away, spend an inordinate amount of time on some forums, and build up a story to convince people I'm a street artist. That'll get people on my side.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by angel41 on Aug 6, 2013 16:56:48 GMT 1, Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers.
Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:03:48 GMT 1, Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. Just like Jeffrey and Philip Ashwin, they got on great until one got fat then it was like shit creek at their home,arguement city.
Pretty poor that two brothers should fall out over there art. Urban arts very own Gallagher brothers. Just like Jeffrey and Philip Ashwin, they got on great until one got fat then it was like shit creek at their home,arguement city.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:05:50 GMT 1, I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either. Couldn't have said it better myself ilmambo. I think a lot of people think styles begin and end on this forum and within the street art world.
It says a lot about a person who seemingly is on top to take shots at artists who don't have his notoriety. Sadly this is not the first time Bast has been accused of stuff like this. Back when Ad Hoc Gallery in Brooklyn was in business I spoke to someone who said there had been numerous fall outs between Bast, Aiko and Faile over things he claimed were too much like his. Even going so far as sending nasty texts to Aiko.
Seems like a pattern here.
I don't understand why Bast is tagging/defacing/stealing other artists' works in Brooklyn since years but I definitely lost some respect for him if the whole reason is just because those works are "similar" to his. This is in my opinion way worse than Robbo tagging over Banksy, even more if you think that Bast used to work at JFK Airport as a baggage handler and now his works sell for thousands of dollars a piece, it's not like he's struggling to build up a name in the scene because of others ripping off his style. Also it has been proved before that many Bast works are very similar to Warhol/Basquiat/Bokov/etc so his works aren't completely original either. Couldn't have said it better myself ilmambo. I think a lot of people think styles begin and end on this forum and within the street art world. It says a lot about a person who seemingly is on top to take shots at artists who don't have his notoriety. Sadly this is not the first time Bast has been accused of stuff like this. Back when Ad Hoc Gallery in Brooklyn was in business I spoke to someone who said there had been numerous fall outs between Bast, Aiko and Faile over things he claimed were too much like his. Even going so far as sending nasty texts to Aiko. Seems like a pattern here.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 17:33:58 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by johnnyh on Aug 6, 2013 17:46:28 GMT 1, Think they should just sort it out. For once and for all .........easy enough would suggest a neutral referee...
Possibly that great great English pacifist, philosopher and art critic Joey Barton.
No more spashing paint etc........... He can even do a New York accent especially for You Tube
Think they should just sort it out. For once and for all .........easy enough would suggest a neutral referee...
Possibly that great great English pacifist, philosopher and art critic Joey Barton.
No more spashing paint etc........... He can even do a New York accent especially for You Tube
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by ilmambo on Aug 6, 2013 18:27:27 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep.
Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls?
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls?
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by stvro22 on Aug 6, 2013 18:53:42 GMT 1, I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls? Might explain the name change from "Amin" to "indespicableme"?
I like how there is solid evidence to support Rae's claim as opposed to speculation or furthering personal agendas. Then again you are all sheep. Since you clearly know Bast better than me (you still manage his website?) cna you help me understand his actions? how do you explain him tagging/defacing other artists' wall? Even if he got blackmailed by a NY gallery (and you mean Brooklynite Gallery?) how does that justify him ruining Dain and Young & Sick walls? Might explain the name change from "Amin" to "indespicableme"?
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by londonboy on Aug 6, 2013 18:59:11 GMT 1, Refreshing??
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Media playing ??
Refreshing??
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Media playing ??
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by anarquee on Aug 6, 2013 21:25:54 GMT 1, there are a few available here: masterspelavin.com/ they just enabled international shipping for those who live outside US
there are a few available here: masterspelavin.com/they just enabled international shipping for those who live outside US
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Street Art Fan on Aug 6, 2013 22:23:50 GMT 1, Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. Sigh. Sometimes you just can't win.
Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. Sigh. Sometimes you just can't win.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 22:39:03 GMT 1, how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned.
i changed the name because i just saw the movie
how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned.
i changed the name because i just saw the movie
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by bjornca on Aug 6, 2013 22:44:25 GMT 1, Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. I guess you can't win sometimes. That was more than a narrow tube if you bought from M&P - I didn't know they made them that small.
Mine arrived about a week ago. Upset to see that they rolled it pretty tightly and shipped it in a narrow tube. I guess you can't win sometimes. That was more than a narrow tube if you bought from M&P - I didn't know they made them that small.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 23:02:30 GMT 1, how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned. i changed the name because i just saw the movie
Ha ha yeah right!
Ok I'll be changing my name to World War Z as I saw it the other day.
Hey I'm not getting involved in this silly Bast/Rae spat but that was quite a rubbish answer to why you changed your name - just own up and say why you decided to do this.
how do you know that bast went over rae/dain? because rae said so? Or, do you have evidence to support that claim. I'm not saying he didn't, but if you make a specific claim and insult someone in a public forum, maybe you should present the evidence. I dunno, call me old fashioned. i changed the name because i just saw the movie Ha ha yeah right! Ok I'll be changing my name to World War Z as I saw it the other day. Hey I'm not getting involved in this silly Bast/Rae spat but that was quite a rubbish answer to why you changed your name - just own up and say why you decided to do this.
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