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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by jettad on Dec 8, 2013 18:10:15 GMT 1, Could RAE change the page order of the book to create a new book that is different from the first?
Could RAE change the page order of the book to create a new book that is different from the first?
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by BROOKLYNITE on Dec 8, 2013 18:12:37 GMT 1, Just for the record, except for two people that bought two (one as a gift for a friend) from the pre-sale, everyone that got one only bought 1.
Apologies once again for the mess.
Just for the record, except for two people that bought two (one as a gift for a friend) from the pre-sale, everyone that got one only bought 1.
Apologies once again for the mess.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Gard on Dec 8, 2013 18:16:18 GMT 1, Anyone having second thoughts? I really really want one 
Anyone having second thoughts? I really really want one |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Phear Loathing on Dec 8, 2013 18:22:50 GMT 1, I got a book and am very much looking forward to it, however I want to throw this out there....
If you were at the show or bought an original from the show and missed out on the book, and you really want it I will sell it to you at cost. It would probably mean more personally to you than it does to me.
I got a book and am very much looking forward to it, however I want to throw this out there....
If you were at the show or bought an original from the show and missed out on the book, and you really want it I will sell it to you at cost. It would probably mean more personally to you than it does to me.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Gard on Dec 8, 2013 18:27:59 GMT 1, I got a book and am very much looking forward to it.
No one will take your book away from you with an intro like that 
I got a book and am very much looking forward to it. No one will take your book away from you with an intro like that |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Phear Loathing on Dec 8, 2013 18:29:20 GMT 1, Ha!
Just wanted to preface with that because you best really want the book and meet the criteria : )
Ha!
Just wanted to preface with that because you best really want the book and meet the criteria : )
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by behaviorist on Dec 8, 2013 18:29:42 GMT 1, ^^^that's very generous of phearloathing. nice move.
i got the pre-sale email late last night and quickly purchased a copy. however, i'm astonished that there are folks who resisted the idea of extending the edition. how could that be bad, besides, perhaps, slightly diminishing the value (if that)? it seems that extending the edition โย putting more copies into people's hands, getting RAE's art out there, making more people happy, making Brooklynite and RAE some more money to keep producing, etc โ could only be a good thing. come on folks...
^^^that's very generous of phearloathing. nice move.
i got the pre-sale email late last night and quickly purchased a copy. however, i'm astonished that there are folks who resisted the idea of extending the edition. how could that be bad, besides, perhaps, slightly diminishing the value (if that)? it seems that extending the edition โย putting more copies into people's hands, getting RAE's art out there, making more people happy, making Brooklynite and RAE some more money to keep producing, etc โ could only be a good thing. come on folks...
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by dreadnatty on Dec 8, 2013 19:13:46 GMT 1, Agree 100%.... For the record I voted to expand the edition with forum members getting sorted first.
Given the price, it's surprising to think that the majority of people would rather have an edition of 50 than to know there's 50 more happy people out there. Fair enough, they're entitled to what they thought they were purchasing but it's still beyond my brain.
Agree 100%.... For the record I voted to expand the edition with forum members getting sorted first. Given the price, it's surprising to think that the majority of people would rather have an edition of 50 than to know there's 50 more happy people out there. Fair enough, they're entitled to what they thought they were purchasing but it's still beyond my brain. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by johnnyh on Dec 8, 2013 19:14:53 GMT 1, Good on ya Dread it's a bit of a shame but there you go
Good on ya Dread it's a bit of a shame but there you go
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by shechtmr on Dec 8, 2013 19:21:43 GMT 1, I also voted to extend the edition to 100. Not a big deal in my eyes.
I also voted to extend the edition to 100. Not a big deal in my eyes.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by jettad on Dec 8, 2013 19:28:42 GMT 1, I also voted to extend the edition to 100. Not a big deal in my eyes.
Also voted to extend.
Would love to hear from those that said 'no' as to their reasoning.
I also voted to extend the edition to 100. Not a big deal in my eyes. Also voted to extend. Would love to hear from those that said 'no' as to their reasoning. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Gard on Dec 8, 2013 19:30:01 GMT 1, I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy
I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Phear Loathing on Dec 8, 2013 19:36:30 GMT 1, Book gone. No more pms please : )
Book gone. No more pms please : )
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by floubi on Dec 8, 2013 19:38:44 GMT 1, Who forum member said no for an edition of 100?
Who forum member said no for an edition of 100?
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 19:41:40 GMT 1, I bought a piece from the show so I would also be interested in buying one if anyone's changed their minds. Thanks.
I bought a piece from the show so I would also be interested in buying one if anyone's changed their minds. Thanks.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by chads007 on Dec 8, 2013 19:43:45 GMT 1, Must say a dozen or so here have voted yes, so wonder if any fora members voted no
Must say a dozen or so here have voted yes, so wonder if any fora members voted no
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2013 19:47:12 GMT 1, I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy
Agree. Or unlimited unsigned edition...
I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy Agree. Or unlimited unsigned edition... |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by kultur on Dec 8, 2013 20:06:54 GMT 1, When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up!
Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back.
One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money.
When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up!
Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back.
One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by student42 on Dec 8, 2013 20:15:02 GMT 1, Personally, as one who purchased the book, I would not mind if the edition got extended to 100 because it benefits all but the flippers. However, the best course of action for the integrity of the gallery is to stick to the original posted edition size. It's hard to argue with that, even if you end up disappointing a few people.
It is a privilege to be on the preview list not a right. It is courtesy extended by the gallery, which I hope they keep doing. It would be much easier for them to just list art on the website and send out a mass email.
Thank you Chris for taking responsibility as others have mentioned, but it is not that big of a deal so don't sweat it. You do not owe any of us anything and we appreciate the extra effort that it takes to do these presale lists in the first place.
Personally, as one who purchased the book, I would not mind if the edition got extended to 100 because it benefits all but the flippers. However, the best course of action for the integrity of the gallery is to stick to the original posted edition size. It's hard to argue with that, even if you end up disappointing a few people.
It is a privilege to be on the preview list not a right. It is courtesy extended by the gallery, which I hope they keep doing. It would be much easier for them to just list art on the website and send out a mass email.
Thank you Chris for taking responsibility as others have mentioned, but it is not that big of a deal so don't sweat it. You do not owe any of us anything and we appreciate the extra effort that it takes to do these presale lists in the first place.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Coach on Dec 8, 2013 20:22:51 GMT 1, Must say a dozen or so here have voted yes, so wonder if any fora members voted no
I didn't vote.
I was out. There was not much time. I only saw the email after catching up on the thread, by which time the decision had been announced here.
Must say a dozen or so here have voted yes, so wonder if any fora members voted no I didn't vote. I was out. There was not much time. I only saw the email after catching up on the thread, by which time the decision had been announced here. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by raindogs on Dec 8, 2013 20:23:30 GMT 1, I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show.
I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Manty on Dec 8, 2013 20:29:12 GMT 1, When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up! Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back. One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money.
if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever?
As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me.
For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list
or am I missing something?
When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up! Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back. One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money. Thats a fair comment, and not wanting to be argumentative, but why does it matter if the artist you mentioned releases another edition and makes some more money if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever? As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me. For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list or am I missing something? |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by tab1 on Dec 8, 2013 20:29:34 GMT 1, I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show.
I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped?
I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there.
I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show. I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped? I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by tab1 on Dec 8, 2013 20:29:45 GMT 1, I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show.
I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped?
I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there.
I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show. I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped? I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by raindogs on Dec 8, 2013 20:40:13 GMT 1, I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show. I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped? I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there.
I read the email from Chris after his message in this forum about the negative opinion of the 75% of the buyers who responded, and I voted for the extension of the edition. I add I appreciate very much how Brooklynite and expecially Chris works, and after today I confirm it for sure. Finally in my opinion the only collectors really entitled to receive something like a PP of the book are those who bought something from the show. I think the preview went out to all previous buyers of works from the gallery?so don't think it will be flipped? I bought the book and responded yes to a bigger addition for the book think it benefits the artist more getting his work out there. I agree, and infact I voted, even if too late, to extend the edition as you did. But considering that some of the buyers disagreed I think that at least who bought something from the show should be entitled to buy the book. But the unsigned edition, as somebody suggested, would be a very good thing too. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by kultur on Dec 8, 2013 20:43:11 GMT 1, When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up! Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back. One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money. Thats a fair comment, and not wanting to be argumentative, but why does it matter if the artist you mentioned releases another edition and makes some more money if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever? As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me. For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list or am I missing something?
I am talking bout identical release - just a bit bigger. No color changes. Not all art is change a color and release it. Skies dont always look good purple.
I have a color trolleys too... so Banksy releases 750 more exactly the same, numbering 751 to 1500. You are perfectly cool with that?
Sorry I am outta this conversation.
Rational though is often lost in mob mentality.
When something is limited, advertised as such and sold as such you should not change it. Prints arent the only things limited... what about those phones that sold in Miami yesterday or any of the old Kaws toys - let's just double the number that were put out there. People wake up! Increasing editions just makes for no credibility. When credibility is gone - just try and get it back. One of my favorite prints of all time I absolutely hate and cant look at anymore because the artist is such a p*ick and wanted to re-release it in a new edition. No matter how he tried to explain it and backtrack all of what he said when it was purchased about it being the only release that would ever happen and never printed again - to me it was just for the money. Thats a fair comment, and not wanting to be argumentative, but why does it matter if the artist you mentioned releases another edition and makes some more money if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever? As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me. For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list or am I missing something? Not wanting to be argumentative either... the only thing you are missing is comprehension. I am talking bout identical release - just a bit bigger. No color changes. Not all art is change a color and release it. Skies dont always look good purple. I have a color trolleys too... so Banksy releases 750 more exactly the same, numbering 751 to 1500. You are perfectly cool with that? Sorry I am outta this conversation. Rational though is often lost in mob mentality. |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Manty on Dec 8, 2013 20:45:20 GMT 1, Thats a fair comment, and not wanting to be argumentative, but why does it matter if the artist you mentioned releases another edition and makes some more money if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever? As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me. For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list or am I missing something? Not wanting to be argumentative either... the only thing you are missing is comprehension. I am talking bout identical release - just a bit bigger. No color changes. Not all art is change a color and release it. Skies dont always look good purple. I have a color trolleys too... so Banksy releases 750 more exactly the same, numbering 751 to 1500. You are perfectly cool with that? Sorry I am outta this conversation. Rational though is often lost in mob mentality.
I shouldn't have asked, i am out too
Peace
Thats a fair comment, and not wanting to be argumentative, but why does it matter if the artist you mentioned releases another edition and makes some more money if its popular, why not do some more in a different colour or whatever? As a collector of these limited edition things, I don't think it would bother me. For example i have a coloured banksy trolley, edition of 750? if he released it tomorrow in green, i'd want one to go with my blue, if i didn't get one then so be it, it will go on my wish list or am I missing something? Not wanting to be argumentative either... the only thing you are missing is comprehension. I am talking bout identical release - just a bit bigger. No color changes. Not all art is change a color and release it. Skies dont always look good purple. I have a color trolleys too... so Banksy releases 750 more exactly the same, numbering 751 to 1500. You are perfectly cool with that? Sorry I am outta this conversation. Rational though is often lost in mob mentality. Your right I shouldn't have asked, i am out too Peace |
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by Gard on Dec 8, 2013 21:00:36 GMT 1, Yes, it's a 40 dollar book that I really want together with my canvas from the exhibition.
Yes, it's a 40 dollar book that I really want together with my canvas from the exhibition.
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by johnnyh on Dec 8, 2013 21:01:50 GMT 1, think this is a slightly different situation though as it had not been released and as per Chris mail a
mistake had been made. So it does actually mean that a number of people who actually bought the originals from his show do not get the book of the show.
I think the actual intention of the book was to be for his customers of the show hence the concept of the pre notice mail. Obviously an error made which meant it went on general release be for these people my self included had a chance to respond.
So he is not creating another edition later that's the same just increasing the number due to the error. My self I think they should just have increased the number and if you did not want they could give people their money back.
do as mentioned appreciate them being honest over the error but it is a bummer for people
think this is a slightly different situation though as it had not been released and as per Chris mail a
mistake had been made. So it does actually mean that a number of people who actually bought the originals from his show do not get the book of the show.
I think the actual intention of the book was to be for his customers of the show hence the concept of the pre notice mail. Obviously an error made which meant it went on general release be for these people my self included had a chance to respond.
So he is not creating another edition later that's the same just increasing the number due to the error. My self I think they should just have increased the number and if you did not want they could give people their money back.
do as mentioned appreciate them being honest over the error but it is a bummer for people
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RAE BK ๐บ๐ธ Brooklyn New York Street Artist, by dreadnatty on Dec 8, 2013 21:05:19 GMT 1, I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy
I say have RAE sign the books and make it an edition of 100. Then those who bought one first now gets something better (signed book) and those who was let down by Brooklynite will be happy Both 'Word of Mouth' and Snubnose Limited Editions will be signed. |
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