Love your new Avatar Dreadnatty.  Perfect ending to that game tonight.  

I disagree. Rae works a lot on the originals, and not on the prints, and this is a merit that will give value in the long term not the short. There are highly regarded artists who sell prints (not hand painted) with a print run at 100 to 200 and sell it in 5 minutes, but it is easier to sell 200 prints at a low price that four original works. if you want to grow as artists is right to do as RAE. Prints in the long run (between 10-20 years) will be worth less and less, work oroginali definitely more. (if the artist is good). The only thing he should do to increase the demands on original pieces is a few shows in a gallery frequented by different people, even contemporary art galleries. my two cents.

P.S. the original work (I think it was 15) of the Ferengi fresh show were sold all in less than a day. I repeat 15 original works in a day. I do not know how many artists would be able to sell 15 original works in a day. I also think that the Ferengi fresh was the highest peak touched by rae in his work!

Fuck me. Is this how we measure how good art is, by how flippable it is? Look at Mr Harrington, who is soon to have a sell out show in NYC. His first Laz print (priced at a ridiculous £700) never sold out. It just got taken down from the Laz website. His subsequent prints hung around for months/years before selling out. It is only since his last show he has become flippable. Does that make his earlier art not as good? Even now, there is an etching still available. 

Rae, is a relatively new artist, his prints sell out straight away, those originals will sell eventually, buy it if you like it, don't buy it if you want to flip it and make a fortune.

Can't we get back to discussing whether we like it for what it is?

not sure if that was directed at my "secondary market" comment.  what i mean is it just seems like there is exactly enough interest for rae to sell out, but after that there is not a lot of interest.  look at the line drawings from earlier this year (may actually be a bad example as those were priced quite well for the quality).  a dozen or so amazing original pieces that sold very fast, but 2 members have struggled to sell them recently and had to/ are trying to sell them at a loss.  its almost as if there were exactly 12 fans willing to buy them, they sold and that's that.  if there was more demand at that price point, or prices were going up, then it would allow fans to sell some works to buy something new if they really liked it, but it just doesnt seem like thats possible with rae.  buy a piece, love it, you may be stuck with it.  

Certainly there are many factors that determine the price and the value of a work, but there are also some dogmas that can be applied to the general concept, namely measures of the work, support, date, publications, exhibitions .. .etc etc etc ... and in all this, prints and multiples in the general work of an artist, covering the least important part of their work (usually).

The same thing is valid for all the stencil artists post blek le rar???

2/4 sold...

FINALLY! We are having some actual art discussion and constructive criticism.

Yup, my advice is grow out of it around 60 then back in on it around 64, piss around for a couple of years then hone in again at 66 / 67, stay focused until 72 / 73 then just have a laugh knowing the ends in sight, realise at 76 then ends a bit nearer and start saying whatever the fk you want to any old fkr, 77 comes too quick so bit of a shock but you can walk down the lane with your underpants on your head singing 1920s Jazz or Blues torch songs and not an eyelid will be batted, after that its all about waking up and giggles.

Kokian.

You don't know much about art, do you? You could do the exact same thing with Banksy and Blek Le Rat.  You could do the same thing with Basquiat,  Picasso, Matisse, and Cy Twombly. In fact, you could do that with just about ANY artist as most are influenced by the art around them.

I'm willing to bet I know a fair bit more about art than you do. Enough that I can support my opinions without resorting to childish insults.

Whether you choose to believe Rae is heavily influenced by Basquiat, or simply knocking off his style, the similarities are undeniable. The only significant difference is Basquiat had more diversity in his work. If you think you can show as strong of a connection between two artist's styles, you're welcome to do so.

It's such an easy fall back to look at someone having a childlike approach to painting and immediately say "Basquiat" because that's where your art history ends. If you can't look at them next to each other and see a clear distinction I don't know to tell you.

As a general rule, whenever someone has to grasp onto the old fallback of "I have a degree," whether real or imagined, it's because their argument is on very shaky ground. The fact is they're painting identical subject matter using the same techniques in a nearly identical style. Anyone who wants to argue that their styles are "vastly different," or anything other than derivative clearly knows nothing about art.