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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by ecb on Dec 6, 2011 19:03:01 GMT 1, Very disappointing to see it was 480 + 20 shipped to the USA. I had to pass out of principle. I dropped from it from my cart after a couple miuntes of thining about it. I hope someone appreciates it. I thought this was going to be 400GBP which was a stretch for me. Oh well.
Very disappointing to see it was 480 + 20 shipped to the USA. I had to pass out of principle. I dropped from it from my cart after a couple miuntes of thining about it. I hope someone appreciates it. I thought this was going to be 400GBP which was a stretch for me. Oh well.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by cannaebefannied on Dec 6, 2011 19:06:28 GMT 1, Seems there was a typo with the price of the new Zevs print in our mailout from a few days ago, it should have read £480 not £400. Apologies, there was no intention to mislead or misrepresent, the price was always intended to be £480. Ps. 11 remaining in baskets for those interested. IF this was indeed a typo, then why did you respond to a tweet that had the price of £400 ? Is that a TYPO as well? Not very honorable thing to do... 
That was me today, strange response !
Seems there was a typo with the price of the new Zevs print in our mailout from a few days ago, it should have read £480 not £400. Apologies, there was no intention to mislead or misrepresent, the price was always intended to be £480. Ps. 11 remaining in baskets for those interested. IF this was indeed a typo, then why did you respond to a tweet that had the price of £400 ? Is that a TYPO as well? Not very honorable thing to do... That was me today, strange response ! |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by artso on Dec 6, 2011 19:44:17 GMT 1, has anyone heard back about the VAT being charged to overseas buyers or is this question just being avoided?
has anyone heard back about the VAT being charged to overseas buyers or is this question just being avoided?
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by chrispa on Dec 6, 2011 19:48:05 GMT 1, In the UK its different to the US, Prices normally automatically include VAT (as opposed to the US where tax is added at point of sale), if there is one price for all it will almost certainly include VAT
In the UK its different to the US, Prices normally automatically include VAT (as opposed to the US where tax is added at point of sale), if there is one price for all it will almost certainly include VAT
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by artso on Dec 6, 2011 19:51:07 GMT 1, so they gouge the overseas buyers and in essence steal money that should not be charged...sounds ace!
so they gouge the overseas buyers and in essence steal money that should not be charged...sounds ace!
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by lifeonwalls on Dec 6, 2011 19:52:35 GMT 1, has anyone heard back about the VAT being charged to overseas buyers or is this question just being avoided?
has anyone heard back about the VAT being charged to overseas buyers or is this question just being avoided? |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by chichi carter on Dec 6, 2011 19:54:34 GMT 1, Wow, what a mess.
Wow, what a mess.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by sohohoho on Dec 6, 2011 20:00:54 GMT 1, The question is, why is this like the only OUTSIDERS print ever to be exclusive of VAT?
If any non EU residents bought this print, as long as it is being shipped outside of the EU, you are entitled to a VAT refund. Do NOT settle for any less.
The question is, why is this like the only OUTSIDERS print ever to be exclusive of VAT?
If any non EU residents bought this print, as long as it is being shipped outside of the EU, you are entitled to a VAT refund. Do NOT settle for any less.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by maadbeats on Dec 6, 2011 20:11:52 GMT 1, had one in the cart and saw the price. Then went back checked the siz again. Too much for too little IMO. Love the print, just not for that amount. Wish I had the Chanel piece. Far sexier
had one in the cart and saw the price. Then went back checked the siz again. Too much for too little IMO. Love the print, just not for that amount. Wish I had the Chanel piece. Far sexier
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Winter on Dec 6, 2011 20:13:11 GMT 1, Issues aside I think this is a cracking print
Issues aside I think this is a cracking print
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by jellya on Dec 6, 2011 20:16:38 GMT 1, So I know that the price hike p**ed everyone off. and the excuse was weak, Outsiders never quote print prices ex-VAT, but ask yourselves....is this had been initially advertised at £480 would you have bought one....did the £80 really make a difference between buying and not?
This
So I know that the price hike p**ed everyone off. and the excuse was weak, Outsiders never quote print prices ex-VAT, but ask yourselves....is this had been initially advertised at £480 would you have bought one....did the £80 really make a difference between buying and not? This |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by artso on Dec 6, 2011 20:22:43 GMT 1, So I know that the price hike p**ed everyone off. and the excuse was weak, Outsiders never quote print prices ex-VAT, but ask yourselves....is this had been initially advertised at £480 would you have bought one....did the £80 really make a difference between buying and not? This
It does to me...but my problem is the VAT issue not the price hike...if the VAT is 20% then the price is 400+80 not really a hike...but they have set the price inclusive of VAT therefore overseas buyers should not be charged the 80GBP but they are taking it...am I beating a deadhorse...it is wrong and not good business...then they disappear with no response...what quality business operates like this?
I have bought many prints overseas that were inclusive of VAT and I 100% of the time get a refund of the VAT
So I know that the price hike p**ed everyone off. and the excuse was weak, Outsiders never quote print prices ex-VAT, but ask yourselves....is this had been initially advertised at £480 would you have bought one....did the £80 really make a difference between buying and not? This It does to me...but my problem is the VAT issue not the price hike...if the VAT is 20% then the price is 400+80 not really a hike...but they have set the price inclusive of VAT therefore overseas buyers should not be charged the 80GBP but they are taking it...am I beating a deadhorse...it is wrong and not good business...then they disappear with no response...what quality business operates like this? I have bought many prints overseas that were inclusive of VAT and I 100% of the time get a refund of the VAT |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Ruggs on Dec 6, 2011 20:27:21 GMT 1, Issues aside I think this is a cracking print
Totally agree! Not a fan, but lovin' this one.
Issues aside I think this is a cracking print Totally agree! Not a fan, but lovin' this one. |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by sohohoho on Dec 6, 2011 20:35:17 GMT 1, Call me cynical but based on the print being initially advertised at £400 and the fact that the majority, if not all previous editions from THE OUTSIDERS have been inclusive of VAT, they can't blame us for questioning whether this is a price increase under the guise of VAT. If that's the case, I hope all buyers of this print are based outside of the EU!!
Call me cynical but based on the print being initially advertised at £400 and the fact that the majority, if not all previous editions from THE OUTSIDERS have been inclusive of VAT, they can't blame us for questioning whether this is a price increase under the guise of VAT. If that's the case, I hope all buyers of this print are based outside of the EU!!
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by mmmike on Dec 6, 2011 20:39:52 GMT 1, I bought one for a friend. I emailed them about the price hike after. I'll let you know if they reply.
I bought one for a friend. I emailed them about the price hike after. I'll let you know if they reply.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by lifeonwalls on Dec 6, 2011 20:51:58 GMT 1, Apparently they didn't like my tweet about the bait and switch either because they blocked me from following their twitter feed. 
Hilariously petty.
Apparently they didn't like my tweet about the bait and switch either because they blocked me from following their twitter feed. Hilariously petty. |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by therivler1 on Dec 6, 2011 21:34:23 GMT 1, proper customer service would be for them to eat the extra 80.
It certainly isn't due to cost of production. It is pure profit. Nothing wrong with them making money - just that when you screw up, take your knocks and move on.
proper customer service would be for them to eat the extra 80.
It certainly isn't due to cost of production. It is pure profit. Nothing wrong with them making money - just that when you screw up, take your knocks and move on.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Argiebaji on Dec 6, 2011 21:39:50 GMT 1, Complete crap. //basket cleared based on principle.
Ditto..
....shame ...really like the image.....but 400 to 480...too much for me.....shame...
Complete crap. //basket cleared based on principle. Ditto.. ....shame ...really like the image.....but 400 to 480...too much for me.....shame... |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Argiebaji on Dec 6, 2011 21:59:01 GMT 1, Just seen these from my emails from Laz...
Zevs | Liquidated Louis Vuitton (Multicolore) (2011)
70cm x 48cm
17-colour screen print on Arches 88 300gsm paper
Edition of 50 signed by the artist
£400
Invader | Invaded Scream (2011)
21cm x 31.5cm
Woodcut on Fabriano Rosipina Avorio 285gsm paper
Edition of 50 signed by the artist
£280
So why the difference....... Invader =£280 ...Zevs =£480...same emails ....no mention of VAT....
Just seen these from my emails from Laz... Zevs | Liquidated Louis Vuitton (Multicolore) (2011) 70cm x 48cm 17-colour screen print on Arches 88 300gsm paper Edition of 50 signed by the artist £400 Invader | Invaded Scream (2011) 21cm x 31.5cm Woodcut on Fabriano Rosipina Avorio 285gsm paper Edition of 50 signed by the artist £280 So why the difference....... Invader =£280 ...Zevs =£480...same emails ....no mention of VAT.... |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 22:06:33 GMT 1, Poor form
Poor form
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 22:21:42 GMT 1, Not as poor form as to endorse 100's of people to line up in the blistering cold all night, with the possibility of violence, to buy something for a quick buck that you know that you are selling well under market value.
And people still patronise POW when they treat them like shite?
Not as poor form as to endorse 100's of people to line up in the blistering cold all night, with the possibility of violence, to buy something for a quick buck that you know that you are selling well under market value.
And people still patronise POW when they treat them like shite?
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by artso on Dec 6, 2011 22:46:42 GMT 1, where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future
It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on
where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future
It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by misterx on Dec 6, 2011 22:49:50 GMT 1, What happens to the vat charged to oversees clients?
Where does it go?Who keeps it?
Seems to me there were two mistakes made...
The first being the typo, the second being the Laz rep stating the increase was to cover the vat...
Surely Laz can't have it both ways?
What happens to the vat charged to oversees clients?
Where does it go?Who keeps it?
Seems to me there were two mistakes made...
The first being the typo, the second being the Laz rep stating the increase was to cover the vat...
Surely Laz can't have it both ways?
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by artso on Dec 6, 2011 22:52:36 GMT 1, I believe you have a case ;/
I believe you have a case ;/
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by max711 on Dec 6, 2011 22:57:25 GMT 1, I used to live stateside and always paid the same price (including VAT) as folks in the UK for prints from POW and Black Rat when buying online. Don't see what the problem is, you see the price, you choose to buy it or you don't. Simple as that.
I used to live stateside and always paid the same price (including VAT) as folks in the UK for prints from POW and Black Rat when buying online. Don't see what the problem is, you see the price, you choose to buy it or you don't. Simple as that.
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by craigf on Dec 6, 2011 22:57:48 GMT 1, The VAT is passed on to the government so the nice overseas buyers are helping to support our economy ;D
The VAT is passed on to the government so the nice overseas buyers are helping to support our economy ;D
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by craigf on Dec 6, 2011 23:05:22 GMT 1, where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on
If you run a business and do export goods you need to keep records of the goods leaving the country. Not everyone is set up to manage this and the revenue can audit you and go back seven years so there is a lot of paperwork required. They will have to pass the VAT over to the government it can't be kept as extra profit
where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on If you run a business and do export goods you need to keep records of the goods leaving the country. Not everyone is set up to manage this and the revenue can audit you and go back seven years so there is a lot of paperwork required. They will have to pass the VAT over to the government it can't be kept as extra profit |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by Deleted on Dec 6, 2011 23:21:24 GMT 1, where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on If you run a business and do export goods you need to keep records of the goods leaving the country. Not everyone is set up to manage this and the revenue can audit you and go back seven years so there is a lot of paperwork required. They will have to pass the VAT over to the government it can't be kept as extra profit
The document from a US member shown earlier in this thread showed the price at £480 with zeroes all the way down in the VAT column. Surely thats wrong, it should state VAT has been paid, no?
where does the xtra VAT go...ur pockets? I have bought from many galleries that charge inclusive VAT and have always received a refund...this reeks...I am done...not sure this is even legal for you to charge VAT to customers who obviously do not have to pay and you will not be transferring those fees over as tax...didn't buy the print...won't buy in the future It's bad business bottom line...as long as you feel comfortable with it...carry on If you run a business and do export goods you need to keep records of the goods leaving the country. Not everyone is set up to manage this and the revenue can audit you and go back seven years so there is a lot of paperwork required. They will have to pass the VAT over to the government it can't be kept as extra profit The document from a US member shown earlier in this thread showed the price at £480 with zeroes all the way down in the VAT column. Surely thats wrong, it should state VAT has been paid, no? |
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by dundun on Dec 7, 2011 0:02:13 GMT 1, Pretty sure I bought the original LV by Zevs and it was 200 + shipping. I didn't pay VAT.
That aside what is with the 2x price hike? I know it's got more colors but Zevs didn't all of a sudden get so big in 6months for a 2x price increase. That's just SHADY to price compared to the aftermarket prices. Money grab!!!
Pretty sure I bought the original LV by Zevs and it was 200 + shipping. I didn't pay VAT.
That aside what is with the 2x price hike? I know it's got more colors but Zevs didn't all of a sudden get so big in 6months for a 2x price increase. That's just SHADY to price compared to the aftermarket prices. Money grab!!!
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The Outsiders | 12 Days Of Xmas, by dundun on Dec 7, 2011 0:04:13 GMT 1, I used to live stateside and always paid the same price (including VAT) as folks in the UK for prints from POW and Black Rat when buying online. Don't see what the problem is, you see the price, you choose to buy it or you don't. Simple as that.
I didn't get charged VAT for my Dran "Art Thief", nor any Banksy. Don't know what you're talking about.
I used to live stateside and always paid the same price (including VAT) as folks in the UK for prints from POW and Black Rat when buying online. Don't see what the problem is, you see the price, you choose to buy it or you don't. Simple as that. I didn't get charged VAT for my Dran "Art Thief", nor any Banksy. Don't know what you're talking about. |
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Invader =£280 ...Zevs =£480...same emails ....no mention of VAT....
