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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by low3 on Jul 13, 2009 23:10:10 GMT 1, A greater crime might be to draw something with them.... ;D ;D Sorry Cartrain not personal just could not resist. When you lead with your chin. I actually think this is quite good fun. Publicity stunt or not is actually rather clever. Allready have  And Hirst now has 18 days  
In all fairness, that's funny!
Are we gonna get an hour by hour photo feed of the pencils getting chewed up? Maybe you should make a picture out of the shavings?
You'd think that with the ammount of cash he's got though, he'd have something better than those pencils. virgin's blood in a cartridge pen or something.
A greater crime might be to draw something with them.... ;D ;D Sorry Cartrain not personal just could not resist. When you lead with your chin. I actually think this is quite good fun. Publicity stunt or not is actually rather clever. Allready have And Hirst now has 18 days In all fairness, that's funny! Are we gonna get an hour by hour photo feed of the pencils getting chewed up? Maybe you should make a picture out of the shavings? You'd think that with the ammount of cash he's got though, he'd have something better than those pencils. virgin's blood in a cartridge pen or something. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Jul 13, 2009 23:35:40 GMT 1, hes got some videos as well....im sure he will post them if you ask nicely
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hes got some videos as well....im sure he will post them if you ask nicely
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Jul 13, 2009 23:52:28 GMT 1, yeah stealing is fun and clever!!!!
yeah stealing is fun and clever!!!!
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by hero on Jul 13, 2009 23:57:14 GMT 1, 
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by retardthebear on Jul 14, 2009 3:35:29 GMT 1, stealing is terrible, no one has hang ups about vandalism though. double standards!?
stealing is terrible, no one has hang ups about vandalism though. double standards!?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by stillborncrisps on Jul 14, 2009 14:14:02 GMT 1, Isn't the Pharmacy installation (and thus the pencils) actually owned by the Tate? They bought it from Hirst.
If so this is like stealing a Banksy canvas from Laz's gallery, or a private collector's home, and expecting Banksy to give a shit.
Isn't the Pharmacy installation (and thus the pencils) actually owned by the Tate? They bought it from Hirst.
If so this is like stealing a Banksy canvas from Laz's gallery, or a private collector's home, and expecting Banksy to give a shit.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by milkybinbags on Jul 14, 2009 14:17:49 GMT 1, i think you might be right about the tate owning it...
i think you might be right about the tate owning it...
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by thegreatarchitect on Jul 14, 2009 14:35:33 GMT 1, Isn't the Pharmacy installation (and thus the pencils) actually owned by the Tate? They bought it from Hirst. If so this is like stealing a Banksy canvas from Laz's gallery, or a private collector's home, and expecting Banksy to give a s**t.
Your most probably correct there The Tate probably do own it . but it would be rather hypercritical of them to complain as they are far from the Whiteness of their sugar cubes Their wealth was established off the back of the slave trade which during the industrial Revelation 1750 - 1850 saw unimaginable profits due to Sugar imports 
Isn't the Pharmacy installation (and thus the pencils) actually owned by the Tate? They bought it from Hirst. If so this is like stealing a Banksy canvas from Laz's gallery, or a private collector's home, and expecting Banksy to give a s**t. Your most probably correct there The Tate probably do own it . but it would be rather hypercritical of them to complain as they are far from the Whiteness of their sugar cubes Their wealth was established off the back of the slave trade which during the industrial Revelation 1750 - 1850 saw unimaginable profits due to Sugar imports |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by moleman on Jul 14, 2009 14:36:02 GMT 1, no its like stealing a small part of one and they took his art also copyright or not they started the game good luck cartrain
no its like stealing a small part of one and they took his art also copyright or not they started the game good luck cartrain
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by stillborncrisps on Jul 14, 2009 16:56:12 GMT 1, Seems the Tate do own the Pharmacy installation, according to this at least:
www.tate.org.uk/servlet/ViewWork?workid=21809
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by stacey on Jul 14, 2009 17:41:02 GMT 1, the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a shit does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son.
I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward.
the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a shit does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son.
I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 18:35:04 GMT 1, the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a s**t does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son. I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward.
i think you are going to be out of luck on the reward Stacy You should read the Tate's policy on borrowing Legally i'm covered
the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a s**t does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son. I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward. i think you are going to be out of luck on the reward Stacy You should read the Tate's policy on borrowing Legally i'm covered |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by cashman on Jul 15, 2009 3:37:38 GMT 1, Its a shame he has nothing better to do than continue to milk the whole Damien Hirst thing, but to be honest we have all seen the stencils he was putting around the place so can see why he has no choice than rip off another artist to attempt to think he's one his self Total disagree with you there Cashman Whilst I thought that some of his early stencils were weak in concept and looked rushed, Beyond the transparent simplicity of these stencils lay artful complexities that i assume was missed on many including yourself as i suspect that the act of going to close to the Street pieces of Banksy resulted in what i can only assume was a violation to the sensitivities of people who held the Banksy pieces up as street Icons and not there for others such as Cartrain to de-flower in such a barbaric manner (Know what i mean GEEZ) ;D
EDIT: ive deleted my post as im trying to avoid being negative
Its a shame he has nothing better to do than continue to milk the whole Damien Hirst thing, but to be honest we have all seen the stencils he was putting around the place so can see why he has no choice than rip off another artist to attempt to think he's one his self Total disagree with you there Cashman Whilst I thought that some of his early stencils were weak in concept and looked rushed, Beyond the transparent simplicity of these stencils lay artful complexities that i assume was missed on many including yourself as i suspect that the act of going to close to the Street pieces of Banksy resulted in what i can only assume was a violation to the sensitivities of people who held the Banksy pieces up as street Icons and not there for others such as Cartrain to de-flower in such a barbaric manner (Know what i mean GEEZ) ;D EDIT: ive deleted my post as im trying to avoid being negative |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 0:26:28 GMT 1, Todays independent
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/features/the-diary-kylie-inspires-school-of-life-peta-on-the-plinth-indian-garden-at-the-british-museum-gilbert-and-george-cartrain-liberates-hirsts-pencils-1749435.html
Pencilled in for another row
Cartrain, the 16-year-old Graffiti artist who was last in the news when he got on the wrong side of Damien Hirst for incorporating photographic images of Hirst's skull artwork, For the Love of God, into his graffiti prints. Now he is in danger of getting on the wrong side of Hirst again. Cartrain has, according to his gallerist, "liberated" a packet of rare pencils from Hirst's Pharmacy exhibit at Tate Britain. He pilfered the pencils, intending to replace them with Tesco's pencils but could not find a security-free moment to do so. An act of vandalism, guerrilla art or shameless publicity stunt?
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Jul 17, 2009 0:30:06 GMT 1, shameless publicity stunt
shameless publicity stunt
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by low3 on Jul 17, 2009 0:50:37 GMT 1, the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a s**t does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son. I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward. i think you are going to be out of luck on the reward Stacy You should read the Tate's policy on borrowing Legally i'm covered
Read it again:
Loans Policy
Tate's extensive programme of loans of works from its Collection to other institutions supports that mission. Through lending, Tate aims to increase public access to the national Collection and to reach new audiences, to contribute to distinctive exhibitions and public programmes in Britain and internationally, to promote British art abroad, to support artists and to foster a spirit of collaboration and exchange between museums and galleries.
Exhibitions
Tate lends several hundred works each year to temporary exhibitions in Britain and abroad. All loans are administered centrally at Tate, including any works currently on display at Tate Britain, Tate Modern, Tate Liverpool, Tate St Ives and the Barbara Hepworth Museum, St Ives. To enable Tate to operate a consistent loans policy, The Board of Trustees has decided that loans from Tate should normally be limited to three categories:
1.exhibitions that demonstrate innovative ways of increasing knowledge, understanding and appreciation of art in a wide public;
2.exhibitions that demonstrate original research and that will make a contribution to art-historical or other knowledge;
3.significant one-person exhibitions that enhance knowledge of the work of the artist.
Organisers should make a full case for the importance and relevance of the exhibition and why the requested works are sought.
Works in fragile, poor, or unstable condition making them unsuitable for display or transport will not be lent.
Requests will be considered alongside the requirements of Tate's exhibition and display programme; taking into account the capacity of Tate to deliver its programme as a whole, including its loan commitments.
Touring Exhibitions
Only in exceptional circumstances will works be loaned for touring exhibitions consisting of more than four venues.
Long Loans
Requests for long loans from the Collection (normally 2-5 years) will be considered from the following categories of borrower:
1.Galleries and museums in Britain where there is a clear purpose or context for the loan of a particular work, especially to complement the borrower's collection;
2.Public buildings in Britain with a strongly justified case for a particular work.
Don't think that covers theft, does it?..
Unless of course you put a request in to the board of trustees, then stood in front of them telling them what you were planning on 'borrowing'. I suppose if you told them it was because you hadn't had any publicity in a while and were thinking of flogging a shit print off the back of this 'crazy stunt' to pay for another month's comics and bags of sweets they might have looked more favourably on it.
the Tate own pharmacy so Hirst doesnt really give a s**t does he. Cartrain stole from the Gallery not the artist so the stunt makes no real sense. more research next time son. I do hope there is a crimestoppers reward. i think you are going to be out of luck on the reward Stacy You should read the Tate's policy on borrowing Legally i'm covered Read it again: Loans Policy
Tate's extensive programme of loans of works from its Collection to other institutions supports that mission. Through lending, Tate aims to increase public access to the national Collection and to reach new audiences, to contribute to distinctive exhibitions and public programmes in Britain and internationally, to promote British art abroad, to support artists and to foster a spirit of collaboration and exchange between museums and galleries.
Exhibitions
Tate lends several hundred works each year to temporary exhibitions in Britain and abroad. All loans are administered centrally at Tate, including any works currently on display at Tate Britain, Tate Modern, Tate Liverpool, Tate St Ives and the Barbara Hepworth Museum, St Ives. To enable Tate to operate a consistent loans policy, The Board of Trustees has decided that loans from Tate should normally be limited to three categories:
1.exhibitions that demonstrate innovative ways of increasing knowledge, understanding and appreciation of art in a wide public;
2.exhibitions that demonstrate original research and that will make a contribution to art-historical or other knowledge;
3.significant one-person exhibitions that enhance knowledge of the work of the artist.
Organisers should make a full case for the importance and relevance of the exhibition and why the requested works are sought.
Works in fragile, poor, or unstable condition making them unsuitable for display or transport will not be lent.
Requests will be considered alongside the requirements of Tate's exhibition and display programme; taking into account the capacity of Tate to deliver its programme as a whole, including its loan commitments.
Touring Exhibitions
Only in exceptional circumstances will works be loaned for touring exhibitions consisting of more than four venues.
Long Loans
Requests for long loans from the Collection (normally 2-5 years) will be considered from the following categories of borrower:
1.Galleries and museums in Britain where there is a clear purpose or context for the loan of a particular work, especially to complement the borrower's collection;
2.Public buildings in Britain with a strongly justified case for a particular work.Don't think that covers theft, does it?.. Unless of course you put a request in to the board of trustees, then stood in front of them telling them what you were planning on 'borrowing'. I suppose if you told them it was because you hadn't had any publicity in a while and were thinking of flogging a shit print off the back of this 'crazy stunt' to pay for another month's comics and bags of sweets they might have looked more favourably on it. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Photoxtc on Jul 17, 2009 1:00:32 GMT 1, I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages...
I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages...
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Guest on Jul 17, 2009 1:03:26 GMT 1, I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages...
but he's a genius and a modern day Robin Hood.
PMSL
I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages... but he's a genius and a modern day Robin Hood. PMSL |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by low3 on Jul 17, 2009 1:21:19 GMT 1, I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages...
You've not missed much.
I've just glanced over this thread, So cartrain or whatever his name is, stole from the tate??? Has he been arrested yet??? I'm confused here and way too lazy to read through 5 pages... You've not missed much. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by sashaz on Jul 17, 2009 9:08:46 GMT 1, hope he gets arrested.
hope he gets arrested.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 9:48:41 GMT 1, 5 pages on this - right well I haven't read so apologies if i haven't got a clue, those saying he should get arrested etc etc - you are on a goddamn street art forum, half of what is done here is illegal (or possibly once upon a time prior to galleries realising street pieces sold work, but i digress)
secondly did Cartrain actually do anything? If he did, what was the point? Because that part is lost on me....
oh well, have fun creating another 5 pages 
5 pages on this - right well I haven't read so apologies if i haven't got a clue, those saying he should get arrested etc etc - you are on a goddamn street art forum, half of what is done here is illegal (or possibly once upon a time prior to galleries realising street pieces sold work, but i digress) secondly did Cartrain actually do anything? If he did, what was the point? Because that part is lost on me.... oh well, have fun creating another 5 pages |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Jul 17, 2009 9:51:15 GMT 1,
I do too, then made to clean up all the shit he has sprayed around london..
though just thinking about that, surely mr plod in charge of graf and shit sees said cartrain (or any "artist") on the wall.. naughty naughty., googles the name, sees he has prints for sale, goes to said gallery, finds the name and address, goes to cartrains house and arrests him for vandalism?
is that me being silly?
I do too, then made to clean up all the shit he has sprayed around london.. though just thinking about that, surely mr plod in charge of graf and shit sees said cartrain (or any "artist") on the wall.. naughty naughty., googles the name, sees he has prints for sale, goes to said gallery, finds the name and address, goes to cartrains house and arrests him for vandalism? is that me being silly? |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Jul 17, 2009 9:54:33 GMT 1, There are worse crimes happening, i wouldnt think the Crown would consider that prosecution would be a worthwhile expenditure or a sure thing, and i suppose Tate dont want any tainted publicity, if it did go to court in some far off dreamland though where nothing more serious happens just remember that the British public always side with the underdog (mostly).
There are worse crimes happening, i wouldnt think the Crown would consider that prosecution would be a worthwhile expenditure or a sure thing, and i suppose Tate dont want any tainted publicity, if it did go to court in some far off dreamland though where nothing more serious happens just remember that the British public always side with the underdog (mostly).
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Deleted on Jul 17, 2009 10:01:40 GMT 1, from the sounds of it a few people have mistaken a street art forum for the young conservatives forum
from the sounds of it a few people have mistaken a street art forum for the young conservatives forum
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Jul 17, 2009 10:11:43 GMT 1, nah im all for vandalism,
i just dont like the kid.
everything he does goes like this:
1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought
2. who could it be?
3. cartrain appears to have done it!!!
4. everyone argues about how much of a cunt/not a cunt he is.
5. he releases a print. a bad one.
nah im all for vandalism,
i just dont like the kid.
everything he does goes like this:
1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought
2. who could it be?
3. cartrain appears to have done it!!!
4. everyone argues about how much of a cunt/not a cunt he is.
5. he releases a print. a bad one.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by alsbabar on Jul 17, 2009 10:23:59 GMT 1, nah im all for vandalism, i just dont like the kid. everything he does goes like this: 1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought 2. who could it be? 3. cartrain appears to have done it!!! 4. everyone argues about how much of a c**t/not a c**t he is. 5. he releases a print. a bad one.
catch 22, as long as this forum keeps going then you will have to put up with it, silky will protect his nephew/godson to the end. If no one posts anymore comments or never comment on any more of his threads, then hopefully he might just go away
nah im all for vandalism, i just dont like the kid. everything he does goes like this: 1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought 2. who could it be? 3. cartrain appears to have done it!!! 4. everyone argues about how much of a c**t/not a c**t he is. 5. he releases a print. a bad one. catch 22, as long as this forum keeps going then you will have to put up with it, silky will protect his nephew/godson to the end. If no one posts anymore comments or never comment on any more of his threads, then hopefully he might just go away |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by wizzy on Jul 17, 2009 10:36:44 GMT 1, from the sounds of it a few people have mistaken a street art forum for the young conservatives forum
LOL, live and let live innit.
from the sounds of it a few people have mistaken a street art forum for the young conservatives forum LOL, live and let live innit. |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Daniel Silk on Jul 17, 2009 11:22:24 GMT 1, nah im all for vandalism, i just dont like the kid. everything he does goes like this: 1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought 2. who could it be? 3. cartrain appears to have done it!!! 4. everyone argues about how much of a c**t/not a c**t he is. 5. he releases a print. a bad one. catch 22, as long as this forum keeps going then you will have to put up with it, silky will protect his nephew/godson to the end. If no one posts anymore comments or never comment on any more of his threads, then hopefully he might just go away
As I said the other day, I really worry about some of you  You seem to have so little grasp of reality and the basic facts. Pretty scary really
nah im all for vandalism, i just dont like the kid. everything he does goes like this: 1. something has appeared, gone missing, or been brought 2. who could it be? 3. cartrain appears to have done it!!! 4. everyone argues about how much of a c**t/not a c**t he is. 5. he releases a print. a bad one. catch 22, as long as this forum keeps going then you will have to put up with it, silky will protect his nephew/godson to the end. If no one posts anymore comments or never comment on any more of his threads, then hopefully he might just go away As I said the other day, I really worry about some of you You seem to have so little grasp of reality and the basic facts. Pretty scary really |
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by richy00 on Jul 17, 2009 11:22:30 GMT 1, p.s. wizzy please can i have a go in your lambo ..
i went to the salon car show at the hurlingham and am in love.
p.s. wizzy please can i have a go in your lambo ..
i went to the salon car show at the hurlingham and am in love.
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Cartrain π¬π§ Tate Gallery β’ Damien Hirst β’ Gilbert & George, by Billy Sport on Jul 17, 2009 14:21:04 GMT 1, so is he 16? if so, very savvy for someone who is 16. was he born on feb 29th?
so is he 16? if so, very savvy for someone who is 16. was he born on feb 29th?
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You seem to have so little grasp of reality and the basic facts. Pretty scary really 
