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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Harveyn on Jul 1, 2016 12:36:45 GMT 1, PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions......... Rourke is an extremely talented artist IMO and it annoys me when I see so called artists feeling the need to be so public about works or artists they do not like.
Yes Ploppi you are a member like anyone else and therefore within the rules you are entitled to say what you like but considering you must know how it can be a struggle for some artists a little bit of sensitivity would not be out of place. It does you no favours but then I guess your preference is to be abrasive a fair amount of the time.
Sometimes rather than to be negative or rude its better to not pass comment. Sometimes!!!!
PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions......... Rourke is an extremely talented artist IMO and it annoys me when I see so called artists feeling the need to be so public about works or artists they do not like.
Yes Ploppi you are a member like anyone else and therefore within the rules you are entitled to say what you like but considering you must know how it can be a struggle for some artists a little bit of sensitivity would not be out of place. It does you no favours but then I guess your preference is to be abrasive a fair amount of the time.
Sometimes rather than to be negative or rude its better to not pass comment. Sometimes!!!!
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Daniel Silk on Jul 1, 2016 14:04:06 GMT 1, Brilliant  I'm excited to see more work from Rourke in this style.
Well that's great news Looks like Rourke might be moving back to his original style this might make a nice print. Plans for a print release for this image? Rourke has a variety of styles, he is a very talented artist. Yes, we plan to do a special release of this as a print for the members of Global Art Traders. Here is another spray paint on canvas Rourke did for us last year (ed of 7 spray paint on canvas) - we love this style! 
Brilliant I'm excited to see more work from Rourke in this style. Well that's great news Looks like Rourke might be moving back to his original style this might make a nice print. Plans for a print release for this image? Rourke has a variety of styles, he is a very talented artist. Yes, we plan to do a special release of this as a print for the members of Global Art Traders. Here is another spray paint on canvas Rourke did for us last year (ed of 7 spray paint on canvas) - we love this style! |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Sanscript on Jul 1, 2016 14:06:44 GMT 1, Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling.
This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing.....
Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling.
This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing.....
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by met on Jul 2, 2016 8:47:45 GMT 1, This is a lot better, a lot bigger, a lot more creative and will be a lot cheaper  That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it.
That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market.
There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief.
A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless Warhol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose.
So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called urban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us.
If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Koons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal".
This is a lot better, a lot bigger, a lot more creative and will be a lot cheaper That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it. That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal". |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Zippy on Jul 2, 2016 9:12:16 GMT 1, Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling. This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing.....
Are you saying 'bungle' is an artist?
After all those years working together I never knew.
Did Geoffrey know? Perhaps a future show with George?
Rod, jane and freddy could provide the entertainment.
Did you know that matthew corbett was part of the original line up but he left to join the sooty show?
Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling. This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing..... Are you saying 'bungle' is an artist? After all those years working together I never knew. Did Geoffrey know? Perhaps a future show with George? Rod, jane and freddy could provide the entertainment. Did you know that matthew corbett was part of the original line up but he left to join the sooty show? |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Sanscript on Jul 5, 2016 12:24:35 GMT 1, Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling. This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing..... Are you saying 'bungle' is an artist? After all those years working together I never knew. Did Geoffrey know? Perhaps a future show with George? Rod, jane and freddy could provide the entertainment. Did you know that matthew corbett was part of the original line up but he left to join the sooty show?
Sorry Zippy - I guess its hard to find out this way. All those years working together and Bungle kept it on the down-lo that he was a secret urban artist.
Some believe that it is no accident that Bungle's artist name is a 6 letter word that begins with a B, and others think that he may actually come from Bristol, and that for some unknown reason a few years ago he went and spent a month in New York.
I guess he just keeps things secret. Tricksy.
Seeing it in the flesh would be different, once you can see the texture of the spray, and texture of the paper, or if it was painted on a deep edge canvas, it would have a completely different feeling. This type of image reminds me of 'Silk or Satin' by Bungle. When you actually see the spray painted version in front of you its amazing..... Are you saying 'bungle' is an artist? After all those years working together I never knew. Did Geoffrey know? Perhaps a future show with George? Rod, jane and freddy could provide the entertainment. Did you know that matthew corbett was part of the original line up but he left to join the sooty show? Sorry Zippy - I guess its hard to find out this way. All those years working together and Bungle kept it on the down-lo that he was a secret urban artist. Some believe that it is no accident that Bungle's artist name is a 6 letter word that begins with a B, and others think that he may actually come from Bristol, and that for some unknown reason a few years ago he went and spent a month in New York. I guess he just keeps things secret. Tricksy. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Hairbland on Jul 5, 2016 12:51:48 GMT 1, That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it. That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal".
I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street.
Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine.
I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also.
Why no Bridget Bardot?
That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it. That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal". I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street. Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine. I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also. Why no Bridget Bardot? |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Reader on Jul 5, 2016 13:02:10 GMT 1, That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal". I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street. Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine. I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also. Why no Bridget Bardot?
Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ?
That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal". I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street. Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine. I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also. Why no Bridget Bardot? I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair. Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:20:36 GMT 1, PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions.........
If you had said it was by Rourke I would have known it was done by the artists hand. I like Rourkes art and he is a great artist.
PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions......... I said "if" so was not jumping to conclusions and thats because you posted the image in the Brainwash Marilyn thread without mentioning who the artist was. If you had said it was by Rourke I would have known it was done by the artists hand. I like Rourkes art and he is a great artist. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 13:32:06 GMT 1, PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions......... Rourke is an extremely talented artist IMO and it annoys me when I see so called artists feeling the need to be so public about works or artists they do not like.
Yes Ploppi you are a member like anyone else and therefore within the rules you are entitled to say what you like but considering you must know how it can be a struggle for some artists a little bit of sensitivity would not be out of place. It does you no favours but then I guess your preference is to be abrasive a fair amount of the time.
Sometimes rather than to be negative or rude its better to not pass comment. Sometimes!!!!
I agree about Rourkes talent.
In some ways galleries and artists should explain the process they use to create the finished work.
There are a lot of galleries selling art which is made by cutting stencils from printed out photos and also selling screenprints produced by just altering photos in photoshop.
Then there are artists who hand draw everything and make stencils from their original drawings etc.
It can get confusing when galleries just post images without naming the artist.
PLOPPI - It is actually a spray paint on canvas by Rourke Van Dal - so please don't jump to conclusions......... Rourke is an extremely talented artist IMO and it annoys me when I see so called artists feeling the need to be so public about works or artists they do not like.
Yes Ploppi you are a member like anyone else and therefore within the rules you are entitled to say what you like but considering you must know how it can be a struggle for some artists a little bit of sensitivity would not be out of place. It does you no favours but then I guess your preference is to be abrasive a fair amount of the time.
Sometimes rather than to be negative or rude its better to not pass comment. Sometimes!!!!
I wasn't criticising Rourke. The photo was posted without reference to any artist by a gallery and I said "if" it's another photo shop jobby. I agree about Rourkes talent. In some ways galleries and artists should explain the process they use to create the finished work. There are a lot of galleries selling art which is made by cutting stencils from printed out photos and also selling screenprints produced by just altering photos in photoshop. Then there are artists who hand draw everything and make stencils from their original drawings etc. It can get confusing when galleries just post images without naming the artist. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Hairbland on Jul 5, 2016 15:40:51 GMT 1, I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street. Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine. I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also. Why no Bridget Bardot? I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair.ย Mies van der Rohe,ย Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ?
Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result.
I'd agree with this. In 2016 one would need a VERY compelling reason to paint Marilyn Monroe. And to do so would in all likelihood not have said art be considered Urban or Street. Talent or not painting Marilyn in 2016 is about as meaningless a contribution as one could imagine. I could see a professor in a junior level art class talking about tropes in art and assigning a class to paint Marilyn in their way as an assignment. I am patiently waiting for the street art painting of Marilyn that is half skeleton and innards. Unless that's been done also. Why no Bridget Bardot? I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair.ย Mies van der Rohe,ย Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Reader on Jul 5, 2016 16:48:21 GMT 1, I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair. Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result.
Imagine the basic chair, four legs a back and a seat.. that's the Marilyn, hair, lips, eyes, background. Now try your hand at it. I think it's an interesting challange for an artist.
I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair. Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result. Imagine the basic chair, four legs a back and a seat.. that's the Marilyn, hair, lips, eyes, background. Now try your hand at it. I think it's an interesting challange for an artist. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by puddleduck on Jul 5, 2016 17:38:07 GMT 1, @ Ploppi
Sorry dude, have to call you out on this:
1) "If it's another photo shop jobby. It's no better."
You added the "if" to your comment, it was not there originally.
2) How can you like a post saying people need to have a compelling reason to "do" a Marilyn nowadays when yesterday you posted a, ahem, piece of 'art" that you daubed of Marilyn.
You are inconsistent at best and, at worst, who knows what...
@ Ploppi
Sorry dude, have to call you out on this:
1) "If it's another photo shop jobby. It's no better."
You added the "if" to your comment, it was not there originally.
2) How can you like a post saying people need to have a compelling reason to "do" a Marilyn nowadays when yesterday you posted a, ahem, piece of 'art" that you daubed of Marilyn.
You are inconsistent at best and, at worst, who knows what...
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 17:40:45 GMT 1, I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair. Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result.
There have been other iconic beauties such as Louise Brooks etc.
Marilyn is the most famous and I see nothing wrong with painting or drawing her portrait. I'd imagine a lot of artists fancy having a go at Marilyn.
I'd see it more akin to Architect's tackling a chair. Mies van der Rohe, Le Corbusier, Marcel Breuer, Alvar Aalto, and Eero Saarinen, to name just a few. All just meaningless "chairs" to some, in the same way that "Marilyn's", are just meaningless in 2016, a "crying" Marilyn in 2016 is a very different thing from a Warhol or Banksy no ? Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result. I sometimes think that galleries advise artists as to what subject will be more saleable globally to the galleries clients. There have been other iconic beauties such as Louise Brooks etc. Marilyn is the most famous and I see nothing wrong with painting or drawing her portrait. I'd imagine a lot of artists fancy having a go at Marilyn. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by tuftynuts on Jul 5, 2016 19:20:18 GMT 1, That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it. That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal".
That's lovely - are you an artist? If not you should be, well if not an artist, a graphic designer. You'd smash it. That might be part of some critique on the overuse of imagery by creatives who produce work in response to the market. There are plenty who react to what is popular with the general public at a given moment โ which is a mindset less of an artist than of an illustrator or graphic designer fulfilling a client brief. A perfect example is choice of subject matter. Especially the zombie-like reliance on pop culture figures like Marilyn Monroe, Kate Moss, and other famous, attractive individuals who've taken on iconic status. Or the endless War hol and Basquiat references, the never-ending Star Wars references, and other clichรฉs that are not merely tired, but comatose. So the wider theme could relate to the law of diminishing returns, or ever-decreasing circles in the world of so-called ur ban art. In which case, the painting may be intentionally decorative and unoriginal โ a Trojan horse, if you will, a subversive comment on the oppressive ubiquity of all the decorative and unoriginal art that surrounds us. If the above speculation is correct, then in spirit this painting approaches concepts explored by Jeff Koons over previous decades. With his Banality series in particular, Ko ons acted as cheerleader and "propagator of the banal". That's fantastic. You should be an artist, or failing that, a failed-artist-turned-art-critic. You'd smash it. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by tuftynuts on Jul 5, 2016 19:22:31 GMT 1, Well that's great news Looks like Rourke might be moving back to his original style this might make a nice print. Plans for a print release for this image? Rourke has a variety of styles, he is a very talented artist. Yes, we plan to do a special release of this as a print for the members of Global Art Traders. Here is another spray paint on canvas Rourke did for us last year (ed of 7 spray paint on canvas) - we love this style!
Thank the Lord for photoshop, that's all I can say. Without it the art world would be a much less crowded place.
Well that's great news Looks like Rourke might be moving back to his original style this might make a nice print. Plans for a print release for this image? Rourke has a variety of styles, he is a very talented artist. Yes, we plan to do a special release of this as a print for the members of Global Art Traders. Here is another spray paint on canvas Rourke did for us last year (ed of 7 spray paint on canvas) - we love this style! Thank the Lord for photoshop, that's all I can say. Without it the art world would be a much less crowded place. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 21:25:47 GMT 1, @ Ploppi Sorry dude, have to call you out on this: 1) "If it's another photo shop jobby. It's no better." You added the "if" to your comment, it was not there originally. 2) How can you like a post saying people need to have a compelling reason to "do" a Marilyn nowadays when yesterday you posted a, ahem, piece of 'art" that you daubed of Marilyn. You are inconsistent at best and, at worst, who knows what...
The "if" was there originally.
I was referring to the technique not the subject.
@ Ploppi Sorry dude, have to call you out on this: 1) "If it's another photo shop jobby. It's no better." You added the "if" to your comment, it was not there originally. 2) How can you like a post saying people need to have a compelling reason to "do" a Marilyn nowadays when yesterday you posted a, ahem, piece of 'art" that you daubed of Marilyn. You are inconsistent at best and, at worst, who knows what... Jul 1, 2016 at 12:33pm I said "If it's another photo shop jobby. It's no better."
The "if" was there originally. I was referring to the technique not the subject. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Hairbland on Jul 5, 2016 21:40:01 GMT 1, Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result. Imagine the basic chair, four legs a back and a seat.. that's the Marilyn, hair, lips, eyes, background. Now try your hand at it. I think it's an interesting challange for an artist.
No, I think your comparison then works better if you compare "chair" to "female". Much art is done with the female form in mind.
Everyone doing Marilyn, particularly after Warhol, is like cheap copies of an Eames chair, for example. Unless one can make it new and their own. But Marilyn is SO overdone that if one was doing a series of women who led quick exciting lives only to be snuffed out early and for the public to find out they led tortured lives I'd use Edie, Jean (Sebring) and others I'd leave out Marilyn like Ben Eine's W.
All good just different opinions.
Sorry no I don't think this makes any sense as a comparison on many levels. Maybe if you compared a blank canvas to the concept of a chair, and then judged based on the finished result. Imagine the basic chair, four legs a back and a seat.. that's the Marilyn, hair, lips, eyes, background. Now try your hand at it. I think it's an interesting challange for an artist. No, I think your comparison then works better if you compare "chair" to "female". Much art is done with the female form in mind. Everyone doing Marilyn, particularly after Warhol, is like cheap copies of an Eames chair, for example. Unless one can make it new and their own. But Marilyn is SO overdone that if one was doing a series of women who led quick exciting lives only to be snuffed out early and for the public to find out they led tortured lives I'd use Edie, Jean (Sebring) and others I'd leave out Marilyn like Ben Eine's W. All good just different opinions. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 12, 2016 11:57:03 GMT 1, Rourke Van Dal โ โMonroeโ
Released on Thursday 22nd September โ UK 6pm
7 colour Screen Print on 300 Gsm Somerset paper
Grey Ed of 75 - ยฃ195
Blue Ed of 15 - ยฃ250
Pink Ed of 5 - ยฃ325
Size: 70 x 70 cm.
Signed and numbered by the artist
Please sign up to โartloversโ on Global Art Traders to be the first to get access to the release page.
We have a small number available for pre-order. Pre-order by contacting david@globalarttraders.com
We are also running a competition to WIN one of the main editions. To enter the competition, please check on Facebook and Instagram to enter. The draw will be made at noon on the 22nd September.
There will also be 7 originals on canvas available early December โ let us know if you are interested in these and we will add you to the request list.
A few imagesโฆโฆ.
Rourke Van Dal โ โMonroeโ
Released on Thursday 22nd September โ UK 6pm 7 colour Screen Print on 300 Gsm Somerset paper Grey Ed of 75 - ยฃ195 Blue Ed of 15 - ยฃ250 Pink Ed of 5 - ยฃ325 Size: 70 x 70 cm. Signed and numbered by the artist Please sign up to โ artloversโ on Global Art Traders to be the first to get access to the release page. We have a small number available for pre-order. Pre-order by contacting david@globalarttraders.comWe are also running a competition to WIN one of the main editions. To enter the competition, please check on Facebook and Instagram to enter. The draw will be made at noon on the 22nd September. There will also be 7 originals on canvas available early December โ let us know if you are interested in these and we will add you to the request list. A few imagesโฆโฆ.
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Rogue Gallery on Sept 12, 2016 17:43:15 GMT 1, Seen this in the flesh, and its fantastic, Can't wait to get one, and get framed and on the wall.
Seen this in the flesh, and its fantastic, Can't wait to get one, and get framed and on the wall.
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 13, 2016 10:09:53 GMT 1, Thanks for the pre-orders. As it stands, there are 3 left available to pre-order from the main edition.
No blues left for pre-order (we allocated 2), and to confirm, no pinks available to pre-order.
Gary, Mr Frameman is framing one of these ATM, so will have pics at the end of the week, he will be offering a discount to those who want it framed. Cheers
Thanks for the pre-orders. As it stands, there are 3 left available to pre-order from the main edition.
No blues left for pre-order (we allocated 2), and to confirm, no pinks available to pre-order.
Gary, Mr Frameman is framing one of these ATM, so will have pics at the end of the week, he will be offering a discount to those who want it framed. Cheers
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Zanda on Sept 13, 2016 12:00:36 GMT 1, It would be nice to see some process shots.
It would be nice to see some process shots.
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 13, 2016 12:08:44 GMT 1, Hi Zanda, take a look at this little VIDEO we did, you can see some progress there.
Hi Zanda, take a look at this little VIDEO we did, you can see some progress there. |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by soupy on Sept 13, 2016 15:38:47 GMT 1, is there an image of the main edition (gray)?
is there an image of the main edition (gray)?
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 13, 2016 15:50:19 GMT 1, Here's a grey - I just took it!
Here's a grey - I just took it! |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 14, 2016 15:15:23 GMT 1, Competition on Facebook to win one of the main edition of 'Monroe' Here is a good little video of the edition and progress shots. VIDEO
If you want to be in with a chance to WIN one, go to our Facebook page
Let us know what you think -
Competition on Facebook to win one of the main edition of 'Monroe' Here is a good little video of the edition and progress shots. VIDEO If you want to be in with a chance to WIN one, go to our Facebook page Let us know what you think - |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Art Fan 2011 on Sept 14, 2016 19:08:53 GMT 1, Really like these, the Grey look`s quite "Blueish", Blue hopefully for me
Really like these, the Grey look`s quite "Blueish", Blue hopefully for me
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Global Art Traders on Sept 14, 2016 22:25:42 GMT 1, artfan, don't forget to enter the competition on Facebook, there is a main edition up for grabs! Thanks for your comments, yes in the pics the grey looks a tiny bit like a shade of blue, but it is actually a lot more subtle than the blue edition of 15. They are all very striking though, really vibrant
artfan, don't forget to enter the competition on Facebook, there is a main edition up for grabs! Thanks for your comments, yes in the pics the grey looks a tiny bit like a shade of blue, but it is actually a lot more subtle than the blue edition of 15. They are all very striking though, really vibrant |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by maroom on Sept 16, 2016 9:51:43 GMT 1, It looks a bit like Michael Jackson to me
It looks a bit like Michael Jackson to me |
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Craig Everett ๐ฌ๐ง Rourke Van Dal โข Urban Artist, by Fะฏ on Sept 16, 2016 10:14:26 GMT 1, no, it doesn't.
no, it doesn't.
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I'm excited to see more work from Rourke in this style.
