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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by johnnyh on Mar 16, 2012 17:13:21 GMT 1, Nacional you are correct on the Crass / Exploited where Punks not dead started.
Almost all of Banksy's work is based on an adaptation and some copying but you like that don't you so that's ok. Now not comparing Whatson to Banksy but just makes your points pointless as you buy it when it's Banksy...........mmmmmmmm
what are we supposed to be against anyway?
Do you not know  Ha that's my point. It's all about prints. This whole thing started on the street and people expressing themselves whether via tags stencils etc.
Whatson and many others started with their street work.
So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want. Now nothing wrong with criticism as mentioned in my original post however the below just about sums up the point
why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t.
You sound like Mary Whitehouse.
You think it's clever but in actual fact just really shows how sad you are I am afraid.
It's easy to knock stuff and people. This has actually got little to do with this print and more to do with you attitude really
So I will leave you with your negativity and just hope you grow up.
Gimlet enjoy 
Nacional you are correct on the Crass / Exploited where Punks not dead started. Almost all of Banksy's work is based on an adaptation and some copying but you like that don't you so that's ok. Now not comparing Whatson to Banksy but just makes your points pointless as you buy it when it's Banksy...........mmmmmmmm what are we supposed to be against anyway? Do you not know Ha that's my point. It's all about prints. This whole thing started on the street and people expressing themselves whether via tags stencils etc. Whatson and many others started with their street work. So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want. Now nothing wrong with criticism as mentioned in my original post however the below just about sums up the point why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t. You sound like Mary Whitehouse. You think it's clever but in actual fact just really shows how sad you are I am afraid. It's easy to knock stuff and people. This has actually got little to do with this print and more to do with you attitude really So I will leave you with your negativity and just hope you grow up. Gimlet enjoy |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 17:18:34 GMT 1, Finally got my Fiona Apple ticket!!!! YAYYYYYYYYY!!!! I can breathe again!!! AHHHH, AIR!!! It tastes so wonderful!!!! However, I'm currently listening to:
P.S. This thread had devolved before it even got started.
Finally got my Fiona Apple ticket!!!! YAYYYYYYYYY!!!! I can breathe again!!! AHHHH, AIR!!! It tastes so wonderful!!!! However, I'm currently listening to:
P.S. This thread had devolved before it even got started.
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 17:22:30 GMT 1, Nacional you are correct on the Crass / Exploited where Punks not dead started. Almost all of Banksy's work is based on an adaptation and some copying but you like that don't you so that's ok. Now not comparing Whatson to Banksy but just makes your points pointless as you buy it when it's Banksy...........mmmmmmmm what are we supposed to be against anyway? Do you not know Ha that's my point. It's all about prints. This whole thing started on the street and people expressing themselves whether via tags stencils etc. Whatson and many others started with their street work. So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want. Now nothing wrong with criticism as mentioned in my original post however the below just about sums up the point why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t. You sound like Mary Whitehouse. You think it's clever but in actual fact just really shows how sad you are I am afraid. It's easy to knock stuff and people. This has actually got little to do with this print and more to do with you attitude really So I will leave you with your negativity and just hope you grow up. Gimlet enjoy
Yes, it's far better to criticize actual people than pieces of paper. Brilliant. Moreover, as we ALREADY established, nothing is being expressed in this piece. It's hackneyed, and not even in a clever, satirically ironic way. It's just bad. You're the one with the bad atititude, trying to bully people into compliance, which is EXACTLY what everyone here is supposed to be against. You're the hypocrite. Thanks.
GO TEAM TUSSYVILLE!!!!
Nacional you are correct on the Crass / Exploited where Punks not dead started. Almost all of Banksy's work is based on an adaptation and some copying but you like that don't you so that's ok. Now not comparing Whatson to Banksy but just makes your points pointless as you buy it when it's Banksy...........mmmmmmmm what are we supposed to be against anyway? Do you not know Ha that's my point. It's all about prints. This whole thing started on the street and people expressing themselves whether via tags stencils etc. Whatson and many others started with their street work. So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want. Now nothing wrong with criticism as mentioned in my original post however the below just about sums up the point why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t. You sound like Mary Whitehouse. You think it's clever but in actual fact just really shows how sad you are I am afraid. It's easy to knock stuff and people. This has actually got little to do with this print and more to do with you attitude really So I will leave you with your negativity and just hope you grow up. Gimlet enjoy Yes, it's far better to criticize actual people than pieces of paper. Brilliant. Moreover, as we ALREADY established, nothing is being expressed in this piece. It's hackneyed, and not even in a clever, satirically ironic way. It's just bad. You're the one with the bad atititude, trying to bully people into compliance, which is EXACTLY what everyone here is supposed to be against. You're the hypocrite. Thanks. GO TEAM TUSSYVILLE!!!! |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 17:27:26 GMT 1, So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want.
So surely it is a good thing that people express themselves artistically in whatever way they want. |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by johnnyh on Mar 16, 2012 17:36:03 GMT 1, why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t.
Thanks for posting, would love one of these
They do say a fool and their money are easily parted.
I am critical of this. Not critisism.
I am not knocking people who have exspressed a negative view on the piece or another piece.
Not sure who I am bullying mate or why you have such a negative going on chill out
No need to be rude. Be happy
why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t.
Thanks for posting, would love one of these
They do say a fool and their money are easily parted.
I am critical of this. Not critisism.
I am not knocking people who have exspressed a negative view on the piece or another piece.
Not sure who I am bullying mate or why you have such a negative going on chill out
No need to be rude. Be happy
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by johnnyh on Mar 16, 2012 17:41:20 GMT 1, So many wrongs in this thread yet don't feel I'm able to air them without being deemed a hater or suchlike
Then read post above George my comments have nothing to do with this piece really. I have not exspressed a view on so may be that says it.
Thx johnny
So many wrongs in this thread yet don't feel I'm able to air them without being deemed a hater or suchlike
Then read post above George my comments have nothing to do with this piece really. I have not exspressed a view on so may be that says it.
Thx johnny
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 17:42:45 GMT 1, why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t. Thanks for posting, would love one of these They do say a fool and their money are easily parted. I am critical of this. Not critisism. I am not knocking people who have exspressed a negative view on the piece or another piece. Not sure who I am bullying mate or why you have such a negative going on chill out No need to be rude. Be happy
Funny how you left out this whole diatribe about "art snobs." GOOD THING I CAN REMEMBER THE ULTRA-RECENT PAST.
You are not "happy," as you insinuate. Please do not direct others to be.
why don't you just succinctly wrap it up? it's s**t. Thanks for posting, would love one of these They do say a fool and their money are easily parted. I am critical of this. Not critisism. I am not knocking people who have exspressed a negative view on the piece or another piece. Not sure who I am bullying mate or why you have such a negative going on chill out No need to be rude. Be happy Funny how you left out this whole diatribe about "art snobs." GOOD THING I CAN REMEMBER THE ULTRA-RECENT PAST. You are not "happy," as you insinuate. Please do not direct others to be. |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by portfolio on Mar 16, 2012 17:49:00 GMT 1, Wow Johnny, really busting a blood vessel there. Go easy. I'd recommend you get your butler to run you a nice warm bath, make you a gin and tonic and discreetly slip you a valium, because you clearly have some angst going on there.
Team Tussyville offically rocks!
Wow Johnny, really busting a blood vessel there. Go easy. I'd recommend you get your butler to run you a nice warm bath, make you a gin and tonic and discreetly slip you a valium, because you clearly have some angst going on there.
Team Tussyville offically rocks!
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 17:54:53 GMT 1, In celebration of Gimlet's sagacity:
Husky puppy in a fridge. (Brought to you by Team Tussyvlle: We Tussy, Because We Care.)
In celebration of Gimlet's sagacity:
Husky puppy in a fridge. (Brought to you by Team Tussyvlle: We Tussy, Because We Care.)
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by johnnyh on Mar 16, 2012 18:08:34 GMT 1, Tussyville read the quote perfect description of Art Snobs
Of course you both know what's best .....
1. Self-righteous opinions about Urban Stree Art. Urban Street Art is a genera that doesn't fit nicely and cleanly into a certain profile .Unfortunately, because of this classificatory obfuscation, Art Snobs think they have free reign to declare themselves infallible about the subject. A true art historian will speak cautiously when making claims about Postmodern Art; the Art Snob will speak as if ordained by authority.
2. Bragging about other Galleries. No matter how fantastic a gallery is, an Art Snob will say, quite pretentiously, the he or she has visited a gallery somewhere in Europe which puts the current gallery to shame.
3. Personal Subjective Experience. If you disagree with an Art Snob's opinion, he or she will tell you calmly that the opinion is based on their own experience and that, unfortunately for you, you don't have the ability to experience the painting with all seven senses at once, like the Art Snob can.
4. The 'Critical Gaze' Let's be honest here. Everything on the Forum is probably better than anything you could do. For this reason, it makes sense to gaze at the paintings with admiration. The Art Snob, though, gazes unimpressively, and says things like, "Too much damn movement" or "The use of purple makes me queasy." Good grief.
No matter what you say and this is my last comment you are the Art Snobs Chaps.
Just off to enjoy that G & T Cheers chaps? Cheerio
Tussyville read the quote perfect description of Art Snobs
Of course you both know what's best .....
1. Self-righteous opinions about Urban Stree Art. Urban Street Art is a genera that doesn't fit nicely and cleanly into a certain profile .Unfortunately, because of this classificatory obfuscation, Art Snobs think they have free reign to declare themselves infallible about the subject. A true art historian will speak cautiously when making claims about Postmodern Art; the Art Snob will speak as if ordained by authority.
2. Bragging about other Galleries. No matter how fantastic a gallery is, an Art Snob will say, quite pretentiously, the he or she has visited a gallery somewhere in Europe which puts the current gallery to shame.
3. Personal Subjective Experience. If you disagree with an Art Snob's opinion, he or she will tell you calmly that the opinion is based on their own experience and that, unfortunately for you, you don't have the ability to experience the painting with all seven senses at once, like the Art Snob can.
4. The 'Critical Gaze' Let's be honest here. Everything on the Forum is probably better than anything you could do. For this reason, it makes sense to gaze at the paintings with admiration. The Art Snob, though, gazes unimpressively, and says things like, "Too much damn movement" or "The use of purple makes me queasy." Good grief.
No matter what you say and this is my last comment you are the Art Snobs Chaps.
Just off to enjoy that G & T Cheers chaps? Cheerio
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by johnnyh on Mar 16, 2012 18:16:21 GMT 1, Ps taken from the art snob dictionary not by me
Ps taken from the art snob dictionary not by me
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by portfolio on Mar 16, 2012 18:25:45 GMT 1, Tussyville read the quote perfect description of Art Snobs Of course you both know what's best ..... 1. Self-righteous opinions about Urban Stree Art. Urban Street Art is a genera that doesn't fit nicely and cleanly into a certain profile .Unfortunately, because of this classificatory obfuscation, Art Snobs think they have free reign to declare themselves infallible about the subject. A true art historian will speak cautiously when making claims about Postmodern Art; the Art Snob will speak as if ordained by authority. 2. Bragging about other Galleries. No matter how fantastic a gallery is, an Art Snob will say, quite pretentiously, the he or she has visited a gallery somewhere in Europe which puts the current gallery to shame. 3. Personal Subjective Experience. If you disagree with an Art Snob's opinion, he or she will tell you calmly that the opinion is based on their own experience and that, unfortunately for you, you don't have the ability to experience the painting with all seven senses at once, like the Art Snob can. 4. The 'Critical Gaze' Let's be honest here. Everything on the Forum is probably better than anything you could do. For this reason, it makes sense to gaze at the paintings with admiration. The Art Snob, though, gazes unimpressively, and says things like, "Too much damn movement" or "The use of purple makes me queasy." Good grief. No matter what you say and this is my last comment you are the Art Snobs Chaps. Just off to enjoy that G & T Cheers chaps? Cheerio
If anyone bothered to read all of this, can you let me know what it said.
Tussyville read the quote perfect description of Art Snobs Of course you both know what's best ..... 1. Self-righteous opinions about Urban Stree Art. Urban Street Art is a genera that doesn't fit nicely and cleanly into a certain profile .Unfortunately, because of this classificatory obfuscation, Art Snobs think they have free reign to declare themselves infallible about the subject. A true art historian will speak cautiously when making claims about Postmodern Art; the Art Snob will speak as if ordained by authority. 2. Bragging about other Galleries. No matter how fantastic a gallery is, an Art Snob will say, quite pretentiously, the he or she has visited a gallery somewhere in Europe which puts the current gallery to shame. 3. Personal Subjective Experience. If you disagree with an Art Snob's opinion, he or she will tell you calmly that the opinion is based on their own experience and that, unfortunately for you, you don't have the ability to experience the painting with all seven senses at once, like the Art Snob can. 4. The 'Critical Gaze' Let's be honest here. Everything on the Forum is probably better than anything you could do. For this reason, it makes sense to gaze at the paintings with admiration. The Art Snob, though, gazes unimpressively, and says things like, "Too much damn movement" or "The use of purple makes me queasy." Good grief. No matter what you say and this is my last comment you are the Art Snobs Chaps. Just off to enjoy that G & T Cheers chaps? Cheerio If anyone bothered to read all of this, can you let me know what it said. |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 18:26:48 GMT 1, Please make your next insubstantial post even larger; I'm not sure you fully compensated for your insecurity and ignorance with this one.
P.S. Perspicacity and self-righteousness are two different things. Those who see this work as derivative and boring are perspicacious; those who argue in the manner of a fascist that opinions contrary to his/her own belong to a certain inferior group of people are self-righteous. Guess which one you are.
© 2012 Team Tussyville
Please make your next insubstantial post even larger; I'm not sure you fully compensated for your insecurity and ignorance with this one.
P.S. Perspicacity and self-righteousness are two different things. Those who see this work as derivative and boring are perspicacious; those who argue in the manner of a fascist that opinions contrary to his/her own belong to a certain inferior group of people are self-righteous. Guess which one you are.
© 2012 Team Tussyville
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by portfolio on Mar 16, 2012 18:28:19 GMT 1, Please make your next insubstantial post even larger; I'm not sure you fully compensated for your insecurity and ignorance with this one. P.S. Perspicacity and self-righteousness are two different things. Those who see this work as derivative and boring are perspicacious; those who argue in the manner of a fascist that opinions contrary to his/her own belong to a certain inferior group of people are self-righteous. Guess which one you are. © 2012 Team Tussyville
Was haggis mentioned?
ps - loving the husky. I want.
Please make your next insubstantial post even larger; I'm not sure you fully compensated for your insecurity and ignorance with this one. P.S. Perspicacity and self-righteousness are two different things. Those who see this work as derivative and boring are perspicacious; those who argue in the manner of a fascist that opinions contrary to his/her own belong to a certain inferior group of people are self-righteous. Guess which one you are. © 2012 Team Tussyville Was haggis mentioned? ps - loving the husky. I want. |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 18:30:10 GMT 1, Oh Gimlet, how I enjoy you so.
Oh Gimlet, how I enjoy you so.
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by curiousgeorge on Mar 16, 2012 18:31:28 GMT 1, Nice hammerfore Gimlet!
Nice hammerfore Gimlet!
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by portfolio on Mar 16, 2012 20:18:23 GMT 1,
Errr, thanks?
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by letiss on Mar 16, 2012 20:27:57 GMT 1, The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner.
The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner.
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by Daniel Silk on Mar 16, 2012 20:34:02 GMT 1, The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner.
Yeah, I agree!
Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others.
The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner. Yeah, I agree! Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others. |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 21:11:54 GMT 1, The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner. Yeah, I agree! Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others.
"Hey, Hitler, I know you're into this whole Holocaust thing, and maybe you have a point with wanting to exterminate an entire people who have never done anything to you, most of whom you have never encountered personally, but is it possible you might be wrong? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better."
The argument that because you don't produce art, you shouldn't have a valid opinion is ridiculous. The bald guy off marsterchef isn't a chef but he knows a good dinner. Yeah, I agree! Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others. "Hey, Hitler, I know you're into this whole Holocaust thing, and maybe you have a point with wanting to exterminate an entire people who have never done anything to you, most of whom you have never encountered personally, but is it possible you might be wrong? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better." |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by bigtlt on Mar 16, 2012 21:31:43 GMT 1, Yeah, I agree! Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others. "Hey, Hitler, I know you're into this whole Holocaust thing, and maybe you have a point with wanting to exterminate an entire people who have never done anything to you, most of whom you have never encountered personally, but is it possible you might be wrong? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better."
Only 5 pages.
Mike Godwin will be so pleased! 
Yeah, I agree! Everyone's opinion is valid, I think it more about expressing opinions in a way that also shows respect to others. "Hey, Hitler, I know you're into this whole Holocaust thing, and maybe you have a point with wanting to exterminate an entire people who have never done anything to you, most of whom you have never encountered personally, but is it possible you might be wrong? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better." Only 5 pages. Mike Godwin will be so pleased! |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by elwheel on Mar 16, 2012 21:45:55 GMT 1, ^ Bingo
^ Bingo
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 23:00:36 GMT 1,
"Hey, bigtlt and elwheel, I know you're into this whole inarticulate ambiguity thing, and maybe you have a point with not making any point whatsoever vis-a-vis a hypothetical absolute, most of which you fail to understand as a purposely rigid extreme against which subjectivity cannot mitigate, but is it possible you might be wrong in your insinuation? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better."
"Hey, bigtlt and elwheel, I know you're into this whole inarticulate ambiguity thing, and maybe you have a point with not making any point whatsoever vis-a-vis a hypothetical absolute, most of which you fail to understand as a purposely rigid extreme against which subjectivity cannot mitigate, but is it possible you might be wrong in your insinuation? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better." |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by jonti on Mar 16, 2012 23:15:40 GMT 1, "Hey, bigtlt and elwheel, I know you're into this whole inarticulate ambiguity thing, and maybe you have a point with not making any point whatsoever vis-a-vis a hypothetical absolute, most of which you fail to understand as a purposely rigid extreme against which subjectivity cannot mitigate, but is it possible you might be wrong in your insinuation? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better."
free2b2much.blogspot.com/2011/06/confessions-of-literary-snob.html?m=1
"Hey, bigtlt and elwheel, I know you're into this whole inarticulate ambiguity thing, and maybe you have a point with not making any point whatsoever vis-a-vis a hypothetical absolute, most of which you fail to understand as a purposely rigid extreme against which subjectivity cannot mitigate, but is it possible you might be wrong in your insinuation? I, for instance, would respectfully disagree with the way you're handling things. But listen, everyone's opinion is valid, and I'm not trying to insult you or claim that I know better." |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by tussyville on Mar 16, 2012 23:20:44 GMT 1, LOL, did you just Google "Vocabulary Snob" and copy the first link that popped up? By the way, I think you're conflating knowledge with affectation--you shouldn't.
LOL, did you just Google "Vocabulary Snob" and copy the first link that popped up? By the way, I think you're conflating knowledge with affectation--you shouldn't.
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by jonti on Mar 16, 2012 23:26:03 GMT 1, LOL, did you just Google "Vocabulary Snob" and copy the first link that popped up? By the way, I think you're conflating knowledge with affectation--you shouldn't.
Yes I did, I thought it was quite apt, I didn't read it though.
Is it at all relevant?
LOL, did you just Google "Vocabulary Snob" and copy the first link that popped up? By the way, I think you're conflating knowledge with affectation--you shouldn't. Yes I did, I thought it was quite apt, I didn't read it though. Is it at all relevant? |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by portfolio on Mar 16, 2012 23:27:41 GMT 1, Tussyville, you could be my more eloquent alter ego....
Tussyville, you could be my more eloquent alter ego....
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by mayhem on Mar 16, 2012 23:30:53 GMT 1, Don't pay any attention to what they write about you. Just measure it in inches.
Andy Warhol
149 replies and 5 pages.
Nuff said!
Don't pay any attention to what they write about you. Just measure it in inches. Andy Warhol 149 replies and 5 pages. Nuff said! |
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Martin Whatson • Punk's not Dead Print, by Damien on Mar 16, 2012 23:32:35 GMT 1, some people getting a bit over excited on here eh :-)
some people getting a bit over excited on here eh :-)
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Ha that's my point. It's all about prints. This whole thing started on the street and people expressing themselves whether via tags stencils etc.
