buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 15:25:26 GMT 1, The time has come, with great regret, to sell a very special picture of mine. The canvas is number 8/25, bought in 2003 by myself from Santa's Ghetto. Comes with provenance from Laz and original receipt. Excellent condition, box framed in acrylic, one careful owner. It was valued at ยฃ45k at the end of last year and I know a couple have sold for ยฃ50k recently so I'd be looking at offers in that area.
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The time has come, with great regret, to sell a very special picture of mine. The canvas is number 8/25, bought in 2003 by myself from Santa's Ghetto. Comes with provenance from Laz and original receipt. Excellent condition, box framed in acrylic, one careful owner. It was valued at ยฃ45k at the end of last year and I know a couple have sold for ยฃ50k recently so I'd be looking at offers in that area. ![]() www.flickr.com/photos/27534656@N00/1441955361 [/img] www.flickr.com/photos/27534656@N00/1441955361/ |
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GWB Canvas, by Macdeee on Sept 26, 2007 15:38:53 GMT 1, Amazing! If only I had the cash! Good luck with the sale.
Amazing! If only I had the cash! Good luck with the sale.
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GWB Canvas, by johnas on Sept 26, 2007 15:39:13 GMT 1, 
let me check the change in my pockets......
....ยฃ4.82
hmmm, think I'm out.
Fantastic piece though! Why sell?
J
let me check the change in my pockets...... ....ยฃ4.82 hmmm, think I'm out. Fantastic piece though! Why sell? J
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neutral
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GWB Canvas, by neutral on Sept 26, 2007 15:42:20 GMT 1, Is it signed ?
Is it signed ?
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buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 15:42:23 GMT 1, I'm regretfully selling as it's too much risk not to. Sounds silly but this hasn't been an easy decision to make......
I'm regretfully selling as it's too much risk not to. Sounds silly but this hasn't been an easy decision to make......
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buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 15:43:51 GMT 1, it's tagged on the side, not signed. As far as I'm aware, he didn't sign any of these editions, except the elephant with the rocket on it's back (can't remember the official name for that one)
it's tagged on the side, not signed. As far as I'm aware, he didn't sign any of these editions, except the elephant with the rocket on it's back (can't remember the official name for that one)
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GWB Canvas, by RBK on Sept 26, 2007 15:47:31 GMT 1, You're best bet is to contact one of the auction houses buffruffly.
You're best bet is to contact one of the auction houses buffruffly.
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GWB Canvas, by bond on Sept 26, 2007 15:47:59 GMT 1, Wow - good luck with that .
I will only be in touch if i win the euro lottery , unless other forum members fancy a whip round for part ownership ??!!?!?!
Wow - good luck with that .
I will only be in touch if i win the euro lottery , unless other forum members fancy a whip round for part ownership ??!!?!?!
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neutral
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GWB Canvas, by neutral on Sept 26, 2007 15:52:54 GMT 1, it's tagged on the side, not signed. As far as I'm aware, he didn't sign any of these editions, except the elephant with the rocket on it's back (can't remember the official name for that one)
Heavy Weaponry you meant.
He actually signed a lot of his editions, yours is simply not.
I have seen GWB signed as well as Kids on Guns....
it's tagged on the side, not signed. As far as I'm aware, he didn't sign any of these editions, except the elephant with the rocket on it's back (can't remember the official name for that one) Heavy Weaponry you meant. He actually signed a lot of his editions, yours is simply not. I have seen GWB signed as well as Kids on Guns.... |
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buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 15:56:45 GMT 1, the ones from this edition were definitely NOT signed. If you look at the ones from the same edition that were sold at Sotheby's last year, none of them were signed, only tagged.
the ones from this edition were definitely NOT signed. If you look at the ones from the same edition that were sold at Sotheby's last year, none of them were signed, only tagged.
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neutral
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GWB Canvas, by neutral on Sept 26, 2007 16:27:28 GMT 1, I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned.
He did signed a lot of his editions.
Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow.
I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned.
He did signed a lot of his editions.
Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow.
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GWB Canvas, by Fearkiller on Sept 26, 2007 16:31:09 GMT 1, Hi,
Donยดt think it will affect itยดs value if it is signed or not.
Just get a Auth. from LAZ and evrything is more than fine.
greetz
Hi,
Donยดt think it will affect itยดs value if it is signed or not.
Just get a Auth. from LAZ and evrything is more than fine.
greetz
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buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 16:32:30 GMT 1, yeah, gotcha Neutral, it was valued as seen by Laz without a signature so the valuation is accurate.
yeah, gotcha Neutral, it was valued as seen by Laz without a signature so the valuation is accurate.
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GWB Canvas, by uglyiq on Sept 26, 2007 16:37:43 GMT 1, ...not sure it's entirely fair for someone who has never owned or seen one of these to offer not just an opinion but a statement about whether it should be signed or not and that not being signed would affect the value...I appreciate you're a 4Star-Good-Karma member but sounds like you're raining on someone else's parade here...
...I have one of these, it's my pride and joy, I bought it from the ghetto personally in 2003 and inspected quite a few to pick the one I liked best, none of them were signed, so that's 2 people that own them saying 'Not-Signed'
...not sure it's entirely fair for someone who has never owned or seen one of these to offer not just an opinion but a statement about whether it should be signed or not and that not being signed would affect the value...I appreciate you're a 4Star-Good-Karma member but sounds like you're raining on someone else's parade here...
...I have one of these, it's my pride and joy, I bought it from the ghetto personally in 2003 and inspected quite a few to pick the one I liked best, none of them were signed, so that's 2 people that own them saying 'Not-Signed'
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buffruffly
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 16:43:19 GMT 1, thanks for the back-up uglyiq! I was starting to feel a litte under-siege....
thanks for the back-up uglyiq! I was starting to feel a litte under-siege....
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GWB Canvas, by jonpud on Sept 26, 2007 16:44:47 GMT 1, I want it but unfortunately I find myself a little financially embarrassed this week having bitten the bullet and decided after much soul searching as to whether or not I could really afford it but in the end I thought what the fuck you only live once and god how nice it would look on my bathroom wall so i did it I even emptied my basket on 6 occasions not sure if I was just being cavalier with my money and was it a safe investment and did i really like it enough to spend all that money on it and I came to the conclusion that if I didn't buy it soon I would be kicking myself for the rest of my life for once having it in my basket and then letting it go for some flipper to make a soddin fortune on it without even understanding the quality of the piece and not understanding the mentality of the appreciator of art who really wanted to buy this at cost but then lost it to some random arse profit seeker so I really did it 7th time lucky in my basket and now I am waiting for the postman to knock with my new print entitled Harder by Zbiok only just got in there #34/100. Phew!
So as you can see, as much as I love your canvas, I am skint this week, sorry and good luck with the sale! 
I want it but unfortunately I find myself a little financially embarrassed this week having bitten the bullet and decided after much soul searching as to whether or not I could really afford it but in the end I thought what the fuck you only live once and god how nice it would look on my bathroom wall so i did it I even emptied my basket on 6 occasions not sure if I was just being cavalier with my money and was it a safe investment and did i really like it enough to spend all that money on it and I came to the conclusion that if I didn't buy it soon I would be kicking myself for the rest of my life for once having it in my basket and then letting it go for some flipper to make a soddin fortune on it without even understanding the quality of the piece and not understanding the mentality of the appreciator of art who really wanted to buy this at cost but then lost it to some random arse profit seeker so I really did it 7th time lucky in my basket and now I am waiting for the postman to knock with my new print entitled Harder by Zbiok only just got in there #34/100. Phew! So as you can see, as much as I love your canvas, I am skint this week, sorry and good luck with the sale! |
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GWB Canvas, by dotdot on Sept 26, 2007 16:47:07 GMT 1, I don't think this series of pieces signed or unsigned
make that much of a difference.
Not sure why - perhaps that fact that this could well be the piece for which mr B is best remembered - not sure why - and yes it can be seen and is by many to be far better than 'kate'.
Kate has an identity - many people don't want to associate themselves with an identity hence Kate is unfort tarnished
Keep it mate - sell everything else - keep this
or ok then sell it to me - pm me
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I don't think this series of pieces signed or unsigned make that much of a difference. Not sure why - perhaps that fact that this could well be the piece for which mr B is best remembered - not sure why - and yes it can be seen and is by many to be far better than 'kate'. Kate has an identity - many people don't want to associate themselves with an identity hence Kate is unfort tarnished Keep it mate - sell everything else - keep this or ok then sell it to me - pm me .. |
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GWB Canvas, by jonpud on Sept 26, 2007 16:48:19 GMT 1, It really is gorgeous by the way, very, very jealous! Have a word with Birdboxsniper, he is looking for original work, might be worth a try!! 
It really is gorgeous by the way, very, very jealous! Have a word with Birdboxsniper, he is looking for original work, might be worth a try!! |
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neutral
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GWB Canvas, by neutral on Sept 26, 2007 16:49:46 GMT 1, ...not sure it's entirely fair for someone who has never owned or seen one of these to offer not just an opinion but a statement about whether it should be signed or not and that not being signed would affect the value...I appreciate you're a 4Star-Good-Karma member but sounds like you're raining on someone else's parade here... ...I have one of these, it's my pride and joy, I bought it from the ghetto personally in 2003 and inspected quite a few to pick the one I liked best, none of them were signed, so that's 2 people that own them saying 'Not-Signed'
Regardless of the 4 stars and what you may think about jumping on someone else parade... I am mearly giving my opinion with what I have SEEN. I am unsure we will hear about the 23 others... unfortunately.
Of course the work is coming with bullet proof provenance, yet if i was to spend 50k, I will actually prefer if it was signed.
...not sure it's entirely fair for someone who has never owned or seen one of these to offer not just an opinion but a statement about whether it should be signed or not and that not being signed would affect the value...I appreciate you're a 4Star-Good-Karma member but sounds like you're raining on someone else's parade here... ...I have one of these, it's my pride and joy, I bought it from the ghetto personally in 2003 and inspected quite a few to pick the one I liked best, none of them were signed, so that's 2 people that own them saying 'Not-Signed' Regardless of the 4 stars and what you may think about jumping on someone else parade... I am mearly giving my opinion with what I have SEEN. I am unsure we will hear about the 23 others... unfortunately. Of course the work is coming with bullet proof provenance, yet if i was to spend 50k, I will actually prefer if it was signed. |
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 16:49:48 GMT 1, cheers jonpud
cheers jonpud
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GWB Canvas, by jonpud on Sept 26, 2007 16:52:01 GMT 1, You are welcome!
You are welcome! |
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GWB Canvas, by Fearkiller on Sept 26, 2007 16:55:15 GMT 1, Hi,
Why is a sig. on a hand sprayed, hand tagged canvas so important?
*I think itยดs more a question about Auth.*
greetz
Hi,
Why is a sig. on a hand sprayed, hand tagged canvas so important?
*I think itยดs more a question about Auth.*
greetz
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GWB Canvas, by jonpud on Sept 26, 2007 17:00:20 GMT 1, Hi, Why is a sig. on a hand sprayed, hand tagged canvas so important? *I think itยดs more a question about Auth.* greetz
IF there are odd ones out of the edition of 25 that are signed then it just makes them that little bit more desireable than an unsigned one, bet if they sat next to each other in an auction the signed copy would fetch more than the unsigned, same image, same provenance etc! Just that signature which does make a lot of difference!
I profess to know nothing about these canvases however, aint got a clue if any signed or not!? 
Hi, Why is a sig. on a hand sprayed, hand tagged canvas so important? *I think itยดs more a question about Auth.* greetz IF there are odd ones out of the edition of 25 that are signed then it just makes them that little bit more desireable than an unsigned one, bet if they sat next to each other in an auction the signed copy would fetch more than the unsigned, same image, same provenance etc! Just that signature which does make a lot of difference! I profess to know nothing about these canvases however, aint got a clue if any signed or not!? |
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GWB Canvas, by uglyiq on Sept 26, 2007 17:03:19 GMT 1, I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned. He did signed a lot of his editions. Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow.
According to your earlier thread you haven't seen this Ed ?
I'm not having a go I just don't think I'd be so quick to offer my opinion about something I haven't personally seen...
Anyway, good luck with the sale, though I agree w/ earlier comments, if there's 1 Banksy piece I'd would go to my grave clinging onto it would be this...
That's a fair chunk of change to sneak past CGT as well...do you have a cunning plan ?
I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned. He did signed a lot of his editions. Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow. According to your earlier thread you haven't seen this Ed ? I'm not having a go I just don't think I'd be so quick to offer my opinion about something I haven't personally seen... Anyway, good luck with the sale, though I agree w/ earlier comments, if there's 1 Banksy piece I'd would go to my grave clinging onto it would be this... That's a fair chunk of change to sneak past CGT as well...do you have a cunning plan ? |
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GWB Canvas, by neutral on Sept 26, 2007 17:09:41 GMT 1, I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned. He did signed a lot of his editions. Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow. According to your earlier thread you haven't seen this Ed ? I'm not having a go I just don't think I'd be so quick to offer my opinion about something I haven't personally seen... Anyway, good luck with the sale, though I agree w/ earlier comments, if there's 1 Banksy piece I'd would go to my grave clinging onto it would be this... That's a fair chunk of change to sneak past CGT as well...do you have a cunning plan ?
Yes seen it but not the 25 of them as both comments stated earlier... and for going back to the original thread, good luck with your sale, it is one of the most popular piece.
I have not seen the 25 of them, but it could also well be like Precision Bombing canvases, some signed and some unsigned. He did signed a lot of his editions. Anyway I am saying that as it could affect the sale value somehow. According to your earlier thread you haven't seen this Ed ? I'm not having a go I just don't think I'd be so quick to offer my opinion about something I haven't personally seen... Anyway, good luck with the sale, though I agree w/ earlier comments, if there's 1 Banksy piece I'd would go to my grave clinging onto it would be this... That's a fair chunk of change to sneak past CGT as well...do you have a cunning plan ? Yes seen it but not the 25 of them as both comments stated earlier... and for going back to the original thread, good luck with your sale, it is one of the most popular piece. |
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GWB Canvas, by foreman on Sept 26, 2007 18:02:52 GMT 1, is this the same edition as the GWB diptych? i know that was an edition of 25.... but is there also this edition of 25 on a single canvas?
is this the same edition as the GWB diptych? i know that was an edition of 25.... but is there also this edition of 25 on a single canvas?
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 18:05:33 GMT 1, yeah, this is an edition of 25 on the single canves. Not sure what the edition was on the double canvas.
yeah, this is an edition of 25 on the single canves. Not sure what the edition was on the double canvas.
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GWB Canvas, by foreman on Sept 26, 2007 18:08:32 GMT 1, www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159392547
m - BANKSY
B. 1975
BALLOON GIRL (DIPTYCH)
25,000โ30,000 GBP
MEASUREMENTS
each: 30.5 by 30.5cm.; 12 by 12in.
DESCRIPTION
signed, dated 05.09.05 and numbered 5/25 on the stretcher acrylic and spraypaint stencil on canvas, in two parts
PROVENANCE
Laz Inc., London
thats the one there auctioning next month at sotheby's.... theres is signed :-)
www.sothebys.com/app/live/lot/LotDetail.jsp?lot_id=159392547m - BANKSY B. 1975 BALLOON GIRL (DIPTYCH) 25,000โ30,000 GBP MEASUREMENTS each: 30.5 by 30.5cm.; 12 by 12in. DESCRIPTION signed, dated 05.09.05 and numbered 5/25 on the stretcher acrylic and spraypaint stencil on canvas, in two parts PROVENANCE Laz Inc., London thats the one there auctioning next month at sotheby's.... theres is signed :-)
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GWB Canvas, by buffruffly on Sept 26, 2007 18:14:33 GMT 1, yes, that's a different edition. None of the single canvases were signed. These double canvases were sold only through Lazinc, not through POW/Santa's Ghetto as was the case with the single canvases. the double canvases were issued a lot later - i.e. in 2005, not 2003. I can only imagine people buying from a gallery expected them to be signed, so Laz did it that way.
yes, that's a different edition. None of the single canvases were signed. These double canvases were sold only through Lazinc, not through POW/Santa's Ghetto as was the case with the single canvases. the double canvases were issued a lot later - i.e. in 2005, not 2003. I can only imagine people buying from a gallery expected them to be signed, so Laz did it that way.
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