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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Sept 30, 2015 21:41:59 GMT 1, That is a complete joke. I see that prescription art limited that amount of detail in the reply. I wonder why?
That is a complete joke. I see that prescription art limited that amount of detail in the reply. I wonder why?
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Sept 30, 2015 21:51:36 GMT 1, i wanted the gold one, and he has already sold 13 pre release. but refused me one.
Prescription art stated they turned away numerous requests so that prints were available.
Now if you'd have got one there would only be print (singular) available.
i wanted the gold one, and he has already sold 13 pre release. but refused me one. Prescription art stated they turned away numerous requests so that prints were available. Now if you'd have got one there would only be print (singular) available. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Sept 30, 2015 21:52:56 GMT 1, Anyway, I'm over it now.
I've got bigger fish to fry sulking about the Stik release.
Anyway, I'm over it now.
I've got bigger fish to fry sulking about the Stik release.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by b4ne on Sept 30, 2015 21:53:25 GMT 1, This is a good print for mr. Cashman! Will try to get one if no all are sold out!
This is a good print for mr. Cashman! Will try to get one if no all are sold out!
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by howies on Sept 30, 2015 22:28:34 GMT 1, Any of you that wanted to go for this print will be disappointed unless you are the lucky few that got the opportunity to buy pre release. The gallery have already sold nearly all of both the diamond dust and gold version. What's the point in having a release date if you sell out before the release. It's unfair on the fans the respect the release date. Surely if you do a pre release you hold at least half back for the release date? Bad form.
Any of you that wanted to go for this print will be disappointed unless you are the lucky few that got the opportunity to buy pre release. The gallery have already sold nearly all of both the diamond dust and gold version. What's the point in having a release date if you sell out before the release. It's unfair on the fans the respect the release date. Surely if you do a pre release you hold at least half back for the release date? Bad form. I'm Confused, your rubbishing a gallery for pre releasing some/most ? of the edition prior to the official release date but you were happy to phone and try to buy off them before the release date anyway, but now you missed the boat, sounds like sour grapes to me, Carl and prescription were advertising these available for pre order to their follows on IG and Facebook weeks ago. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 6:48:25 GMT 1, Any of you that wanted to go for this print will be disappointed unless you are the lucky few that got the opportunity to buy pre release. The gallery have already sold nearly all of both the diamond dust and gold version. What's the point in having a release date if you sell out before the release. It's unfair on the fans the respect the release date. Surely if you do a pre release you hold at least half back for the release date? Bad form. I'm Confused, your rubbishing a gallery for pre releasing some/most ? of the edition prior to the official release date but you were happy to phone and try to buy off them before the release date anyway, but now you missed the boat, sounds like sour grapes to me, Carl and prescription were advertising these available for pre order to their follows on IG and Facebook weeks ago.
I didn't see any advert on IG. A few people asked where they were available and CC provided an email. Did he actually say that they were available to pre order?
Any of you that wanted to go for this print will be disappointed unless you are the lucky few that got the opportunity to buy pre release. The gallery have already sold nearly all of both the diamond dust and gold version. What's the point in having a release date if you sell out before the release. It's unfair on the fans the respect the release date. Surely if you do a pre release you hold at least half back for the release date? Bad form. I'm Confused, your rubbishing a gallery for pre releasing some/most ? of the edition prior to the official release date but you were happy to phone and try to buy off them before the release date anyway, but now you missed the boat, sounds like sour grapes to me, Carl and prescription were advertising these available for pre order to their follows on IG and Facebook weeks ago. I didn't see any advert on IG. A few people asked where they were available and CC provided an email. Did he actually say that they were available to pre order? |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2015 8:24:16 GMT 1, this is pointless, puts me off buying anything in the future of CC's.
this is pointless, puts me off buying anything in the future of CC's.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Happy Shopper on Oct 1, 2015 8:29:38 GMT 1, Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !?
Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something shit and easy to buy ?
Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !?
Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something shit and easy to buy ?
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Wilson
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 9:22:57 GMT 1, Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !? Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something s**t and easy to buy ?
Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity.
Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe.
You have totally missed the point.
Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !? Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something s**t and easy to buy ? Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity. Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe. You have totally missed the point. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 9:33:06 GMT 1, ... and another thing, this "those who've supported him in the past" thing is lame.
Garnering support from those will serve to alienate a wider audience.
Be interesting to see if any of his "close circle" end up flogging on Ebay.
To be fair, I'm not that bothered about this print it's just the general disregard for potential customers and fans that these galleries have. Look at the posts about another gallery in the Stik thread.
... and another thing, this "those who've supported him in the past" thing is lame.
Garnering support from those will serve to alienate a wider audience.
Be interesting to see if any of his "close circle" end up flogging on Ebay.
To be fair, I'm not that bothered about this print it's just the general disregard for potential customers and fans that these galleries have. Look at the posts about another gallery in the Stik thread.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Happy Shopper on Oct 1, 2015 9:38:56 GMT 1, Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !? Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something s**t and easy to buy ? Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity. Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe. You have totally missed the point.
If you'd queued, yes... but that's not the case here.
Apparently plenty of fans that follow on social media were given a presale offer. That's not VIPs or a secret sale that the fans didn't get a chance at.
It's a little annoying I suppose, if you missed that email or instagram post, but these have still gone to people who support the artist.
Don't really understand people complaining that something is so popular that it's hard to get !? Maybe they'll try harder next time to do something s**t and easy to buy ? Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity. Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe. You have totally missed the point. If you'd queued, yes... but that's not the case here. Apparently plenty of fans that follow on social media were given a presale offer. That's not VIPs or a secret sale that the fans didn't get a chance at. It's a little annoying I suppose, if you missed that email or instagram post, but these have still gone to people who support the artist. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 10:12:11 GMT 1, Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity. Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe. You have totally missed the point. If you'd queued, yes... but that's not the case here. Apparently plenty of fans that follow on social media were given a presale offer. That's not VIPs or a secret sale that the fans didn't get a chance at. It's a little annoying I suppose, if you missed that email or instagram post, but these have still gone to people who support the artist. Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
Think you might find people are more concerned with having a level playing field and clarity. Suppose you queued up for a print, got pushed in front of and finally got to the front to find there weren't as many available as you were led to believe. You have totally missed the point. If you'd queued, yes... but that's not the case here. Apparently plenty of fans that follow on social media were given a presale offer. That's not VIPs or a secret sale that the fans didn't get a chance at. It's a little annoying I suppose, if you missed that email or instagram post, but these have still gone to people who support the artist. Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by maxamaxa2 on Oct 1, 2015 10:43:59 GMT 1, Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
Not really any time wasted, but I agree that getting peoples hope up for a release and then sell 87% of the lots pre release is quite s**tty. And to be honest, it must make a ton of extra job for the galleries since people will stop trusting release dates and everyone starts to mail them before every release instead of just waiting for their go.
I can imagine the riots if Stick would have sold all except 2 of the stick baby pre release without announcing it haha
When making pre release of some sort, keeping at least 50% of the edition to the real release and clearly announce the terms for all interested seems like good manner. Not telling 15 will be released and ony release 2 at the launch date, but ok it sure looks good to tell the artist sold out 3seconds after release and I guess money talks over manner.
Puts quite a bad taste to the gallery name and the artist thou, sadly.
Like the print, but don't really want it on my walls any more tbh.
Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
Not really any time wasted, but I agree that getting peoples hope up for a release and then sell 87% of the lots pre release is quite s**tty. And to be honest, it must make a ton of extra job for the galleries since people will stop trusting release dates and everyone starts to mail them before every release instead of just waiting for their go. I can imagine the riots if Stick would have sold all except 2 of the stick baby pre release without announcing it haha When making pre release of some sort, keeping at least 50% of the edition to the real release and clearly announce the terms for all interested seems like good manner. Not telling 15 will be released and ony release 2 at the launch date, but ok it sure looks good to tell the artist sold out 3seconds after release and I guess money talks over manner. Puts quite a bad taste to the gallery name and the artist thou, sadly. Like the print, but don't really want it on my walls any more tbh. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by tartarus on Oct 1, 2015 10:51:58 GMT 1, I really don't see whats wrong with pre releasing to supporters as a little thank you. If people are buying your art from early in your career, surely thats a sign they really like your work and are true fans. Its also one of the hardest times artists may go through. If your eating only beans and sausages then its nice to do something for the people buying your beans and sausages!
He wasn't always jet setting the world ya know.
I really don't see whats wrong with pre releasing to supporters as a little thank you. If people are buying your art from early in your career, surely thats a sign they really like your work and are true fans. Its also one of the hardest times artists may go through. If your eating only beans and sausages then its nice to do something for the people buying your beans and sausages!
He wasn't always jet setting the world ya know.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 11:01:08 GMT 1, Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
Not really any time wasted.
Queued online or queued in person. Not really that much difference, still waste time except you get fresh air with one. I have yet to see the presale offer on IG. I follow CC with notifications and I didn't see one. That's not to say there wasn't but I can't find it. I'm happy for other forumites to show me a screenshot.
Not really any time wasted. Try and tell that to Americans who have got up for a 9.00 am GMT release. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 11:08:25 GMT 1, I really don't see whats wrong with pre releasing to supporters as a little thank you. If people are buying your art from early in your career, surely thats a sign they really like your work and are true fans. Its also one of the hardest times artists may go through. If your eating only beans and sausages then its nice to do something for the people buying your beans and sausages! He wasn't always jet setting the world ya know. It's about clarity. Let people know what they are queuing (online and in person) for. If there are 13 of 15 presold previously let people know. It's not flaming rocket science, people don't like being duped. Galleries and artists ought to want to be trusted. Look at the Stik release with the gallery staff trying to push in. Disgusting. I don't know why folk are being so obtuse on this. It's up to galleries and artists to decide how many and how much to sell items for but is pure good business practice to be honest and open. You would expect it anywhere else, why not in the art world?
I really don't see whats wrong with pre releasing to supporters as a little thank you. If people are buying your art from early in your career, surely thats a sign they really like your work and are true fans. Its also one of the hardest times artists may go through. If your eating only beans and sausages then its nice to do something for the people buying your beans and sausages! He wasn't always jet setting the world ya know. It's about clarity. Let people know what they are queuing (online and in person) for. If there are 13 of 15 presold previously let people know. It's not flaming rocket science, people don't like being duped. Galleries and artists ought to want to be trusted. Look at the Stik release with the gallery staff trying to push in. Disgusting. I don't know why folk are being so obtuse on this. It's up to galleries and artists to decide how many and how much to sell items for but is pure good business practice to be honest and open. You would expect it anywhere else, why not in the art world?
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Fake on Oct 1, 2015 18:33:33 GMT 1, Well, there has been a lesson learned for a couple of people on here that is for sure....
I just hope this does not effect the work of Carl Cashman, He deserves the best and is a hard working artist. and this piece is stunning!
Well, there has been a lesson learned for a couple of people on here that is for sure....
I just hope this does not effect the work of Carl Cashman, He deserves the best and is a hard working artist. and this piece is stunning!
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Prescription Art on Oct 1, 2015 19:02:47 GMT 1, Hey, well we've done our best with this release, and there's nothing shady going on. The previous prints are still available so we weren't necessarily expecting a scrap over this edition. If someone bought an original piece from his last show, has also bought the previous prints, and then has asked to purchase a set of these I am going to help them out if I can. It seems like it's people i've never had any dealings with previously who are getting upset... I certainly don't have a "general disregard for potential customers and fans", and have tried to allocate these as fairly as possible. There is still half the silver leaf edition left, and they look just as good as the gold. And the standard editions are small editions of 30 for only 75 quid...
Hopefully everyone gets what they want, and we can retire to the pub happy tomorrow evening.
Hey, well we've done our best with this release, and there's nothing shady going on. The previous prints are still available so we weren't necessarily expecting a scrap over this edition. If someone bought an original piece from his last show, has also bought the previous prints, and then has asked to purchase a set of these I am going to help them out if I can. It seems like it's people i've never had any dealings with previously who are getting upset... I certainly don't have a "general disregard for potential customers and fans", and have tried to allocate these as fairly as possible. There is still half the silver leaf edition left, and they look just as good as the gold. And the standard editions are small editions of 30 for only 75 quid...
Hopefully everyone gets what they want, and we can retire to the pub happy tomorrow evening.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Wilson on Oct 1, 2015 19:57:47 GMT 1, Hey, well we've done our best with this release, and there's nothing shady going on. The previous prints are still available so we weren't necessarily expecting a scrap over this edition. If someone bought an original piece from his last show, has also bought the previous prints, and then has asked to purchase a set of these I am going to help them out if I can. It seems like it's people i've never had any dealings with previously who are getting upset... I certainly don't have a "general disregard for potential customers and fans", and have tried to allocate these as fairly as possible. There is still half the silver leaf edition left, and they look just as good as the gold. And the standard editions are small editions of 30 for only 75 quid... Hopefully everyone gets what they want, and we can retire to the pub happy tomorrow evening.
So out of interest how many gold editions were left on 28 September when your post quoted edition of 15? It's the same as airlines overselling seats on aircraft. That gets up people's noses too. I didn't suggest anything shady was happening and if you read my post you'll see that I accept that you sell to who you want and for how much you want. What I believe is that you could be more clear on what is available so that people in Florida don't get up in the middle of the night to try and get something that isn't there. Anyway, good luck with the release tomorrow, it's certainly a nice print.
Hey, well we've done our best with this release, and there's nothing shady going on. The previous prints are still available so we weren't necessarily expecting a scrap over this edition. If someone bought an original piece from his last show, has also bought the previous prints, and then has asked to purchase a set of these I am going to help them out if I can. It seems like it's people i've never had any dealings with previously who are getting upset... I certainly don't have a "general disregard for potential customers and fans", and have tried to allocate these as fairly as possible. There is still half the silver leaf edition left, and they look just as good as the gold. And the standard editions are small editions of 30 for only 75 quid... Hopefully everyone gets what they want, and we can retire to the pub happy tomorrow evening. So out of interest how many gold editions were left on 28 September when your post quoted edition of 15? It's the same as airlines overselling seats on aircraft. That gets up people's noses too. I didn't suggest anything shady was happening and if you read my post you'll see that I accept that you sell to who you want and for how much you want. What I believe is that you could be more clear on what is available so that people in Florida don't get up in the middle of the night to try and get something that isn't there. Anyway, good luck with the release tomorrow, it's certainly a nice print. |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by TeddyJ on Oct 1, 2015 21:21:58 GMT 1, Dont understand all the Buzz. This happens on all release. Pre-orders or gallerys that dont sell the full edition to earn som extra $ later.
Dont understand all the Buzz. This happens on all release. Pre-orders or gallerys that dont sell the full edition to earn som extra $ later.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by b4ne on Oct 1, 2015 21:24:30 GMT 1, Still some black and white left? Wife friendly 
Still some black and white left? Wife friendly |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by crank on Oct 2, 2015 7:54:45 GMT 1, Oh the old pre ordering on prints again is it? I don't mind it but when a gallery says there's some available when there isn't then that is just dishonest.
Oh the old pre ordering on prints again is it? I don't mind it but when a gallery says there's some available when there isn't then that is just dishonest.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by zappa on Oct 2, 2015 15:24:49 GMT 1, Taken an odd turn this thread. Silver and pink nice.
Taken an odd turn this thread. Silver and pink nice.
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Love Is In The Air on Oct 2, 2015 15:47:00 GMT 1, Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : (
Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : (
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Prescription Art on Oct 2, 2015 15:51:02 GMT 1, Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : (
That's strange? I have one silver left & about 15 or so black & white...?
Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : ( That's strange? I have one silver left & about 15 or so black & white...? |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Fake on Oct 2, 2015 15:52:12 GMT 1, Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : (
Silver edition and black&white now all gone when you click through to purchase : ( still available! |
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by Love Is In The Air on Oct 2, 2015 16:31:12 GMT 1, Sorry must just be my dumb laptop saying sold out. Apologies, continue buying everyone!
Sorry must just be my dumb laptop saying sold out. Apologies, continue buying everyone!
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by crank on Oct 2, 2015 17:03:50 GMT 1, It is a rather dashing image I must say : )
It is a rather dashing image I must say : )
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Carl Cashman ๐ฌ๐ง New Painting โข Print Release, by b4ne on Oct 2, 2015 17:11:23 GMT 1, Got a black and white. Looking forward to get it.
Got a black and white. Looking forward to get it. |
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