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Pejac Paris show June 20th - 24th, by whob1 on Jun 28, 2018 9:55:04 GMT 1, Yes there is, you canโt be online and buy 10 prints on a single release... Why not ? You can get 10 mates to sit down and press f5 for you ? How about a bot ? I'm presuming people that use them don't need to sit and check out 10 times My point is, people will always complain... as the last few posts show. Agree many people complains, but discussing a release method is not to complain, thats discussing and should be allowed in a forum. I am just claiming that by using this way of releasing a print, it is a higher propability that one person secures more prints than other methods.
Yes there is, you canโt be online and buy 10 prints on a single release... Why not ? You can get 10 mates to sit down and press f5 for you ? How about a bot ? I'm presuming people that use them don't need to sit and check out 10 times My point is, people will always complain... as the last few posts show. Agree many people complains, but discussing a release method is not to complain, thats discussing and should be allowed in a forum. I am just claiming that by using this way of releasing a print, it is a higher propability that one person secures more prints than other methods.
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Pejac Paris show June 20th - 24th, by whob1 on Jun 28, 2018 9:42:00 GMT 1, Dont agree. Its higher probability here that a few people will end up with several prints, than at many other releases.
Dont agree. Its higher probability here that a few people will end up with several prints, than at many other releases.
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Pejac Paris show June 20th - 24th, by whob1 on Jun 28, 2018 9:33:26 GMT 1, Yes, but John Doe could sign up uncle Sam and aunt Jessica and so on.
Yes, but John Doe could sign up uncle Sam and aunt Jessica and so on.
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Pejac Paris show June 20th - 24th, by whob1 on Jun 28, 2018 9:23:18 GMT 1, The negative about this is that not everyone has a chance to travel. And the people who could, could buy unlimited tickets for family and friends, and keep them all. If it was "buy one print per person" at the exhibition, it would have been better in my opinion. Fair/unfair, it is what it is, and a luxury problem after all. To get a Miller print you are more or less selectively picked. I think today we will see some people end up with several prints.
Good luck everyone!
The negative about this is that not everyone has a chance to travel. And the people who could, could buy unlimited tickets for family and friends, and keep them all. If it was "buy one print per person" at the exhibition, it would have been better in my opinion. Fair/unfair, it is what it is, and a luxury problem after all. To get a Miller print you are more or less selectively picked. I think today we will see some people end up with several prints.
Good luck everyone!
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by whob1 on Jun 25, 2018 12:27:47 GMT 1,
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 20, 2018 13:36:21 GMT 1, Just seen pretty thoughts and shut up live, still waiting for my set. Fantastic prints, looks like originals, counter is doing an amazing job.
Just seen pretty thoughts and shut up live, still waiting for my set. Fantastic prints, looks like originals, counter is doing an amazing job.
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New Hide and Seek, by whob1 on Jun 7, 2018 18:45:38 GMT 1, That Hide & Seek (Gold Edition #3) is Stunning! Well done to anyone who scored that one! At that price im sure there wasn't much of a queue!!! Thank you! And agree with both of you: stunning and expensive(!). HF with oil (trying to justify)..well well, lets see how it looks like
That Hide & Seek (Gold Edition #3) is Stunning! Well done to anyone who scored that one! At that price im sure there wasn't much of a queue!!! Thank you! And agree with both of you: stunning and expensive(!). HF with oil (trying to justify)..well well, lets see how it looks like
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 7, 2018 9:22:04 GMT 1, Pretty thought: 38 colour screenprint on Somerset Tub Sized 410gsm paper. Printed by K2 Screen, London. Oh my.
Pretty thought: 38 colour screenprint on Somerset Tub Sized 410gsm paper. Printed by K2 Screen, London. Oh my.
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 7, 2018 7:50:19 GMT 1, I think many do see it as a great print. And I totally understand many will have Vibes on their walls before for instance a big orange Armageddon print. His fan base are increasing, its a classic DS, the quality from CE is great. I totally understand many react to this, because it looks quite simple at first glance, but its not. It took a while before the Miller prices exploded, galleries couldnt sell them, they were "just books". Those who like shrigley, really do, how many Life is Fantastic have ever been on ebay? The prices on his best prints have slowly increased for a long time. Hangup had one Life is Fantastic for 5250, sold in 2 days I believe, now I can only find one and 6k+.
I think many do see it as a great print. And I totally understand many will have Vibes on their walls before for instance a big orange Armageddon print. His fan base are increasing, its a classic DS, the quality from CE is great. I totally understand many react to this, because it looks quite simple at first glance, but its not. It took a while before the Miller prices exploded, galleries couldnt sell them, they were "just books". Those who like shrigley, really do, how many Life is Fantastic have ever been on ebay? The prices on his best prints have slowly increased for a long time. Hangup had one Life is Fantastic for 5250, sold in 2 days I believe, now I can only find one and 6k+.
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 6, 2018 21:20:11 GMT 1, Why not? People buy Alec Monopoly and Mr Brainwash. Are people really prepared to pay 2k+ for the "Vibes" print - crazy world we live in... Tomorrow people will pay 2k+, 3, 4 and 5k+++ I guess. Its a great print, classic Shrigley. Many fans gonna go for it.
Why not? People buy Alec Monopoly and Mr Brainwash. Are people really prepared to pay 2k+ for the "Vibes" print - crazy world we live in... Tomorrow people will pay 2k+, 3, 4 and 5k+++ I guess. Its a great print, classic Shrigley. Many fans gonna go for it.
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 6, 2018 7:15:38 GMT 1, Last print up on IG now, "Shut up". haha, love it! 3 very strong images in pretty thoughts, shut up and vibes.
Last print up on IG now, "Shut up". haha, love it! 3 very strong images in pretty thoughts, shut up and vibes.
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 2, 2018 21:41:43 GMT 1, Very true. That "child" thing is just nonsense. Who would criticize Miller for "my child could write something on a book". No child could do the fire in "I am currently.." etc etc, Its his style to make it look simple and enjoyable!
Very true. That "child" thing is just nonsense. Who would criticize Miller for "my child could write something on a book". No child could do the fire in "I am currently.." etc etc, Its his style to make it look simple and enjoyable!
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Artists You Might Not Know, by whob1 on Jun 2, 2018 17:08:01 GMT 1, Oli Epp!
Oli Epp!
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 2, 2018 17:01:44 GMT 1, "Shouldnโt we as a forum be speculating by encouraging lower prices?"
No, think we should discuss the artwork, if we like it or not, and what we like and dont like about it. And be realistic. Be Nice prints were sold for 2000 to 6000/7000 euros, its reasonable to think these will be about the same range, maybe less, because they didnt sell out, and now there are 4 prints. But maybe more, as these may be better and his popularity is increasing.
"Shouldnโt we as a forum be speculating by encouraging lower prices?"
No, think we should discuss the artwork, if we like it or not, and what we like and dont like about it. And be realistic. Be Nice prints were sold for 2000 to 6000/7000 euros, its reasonable to think these will be about the same range, maybe less, because they didnt sell out, and now there are 4 prints. But maybe more, as these may be better and his popularity is increasing.
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David Shrigley - Counter Editions Set of 4 - 7 June, by whob1 on Jun 2, 2018 15:25:33 GMT 1, "Pretty thoughts" looks great! Fantastic print and captures much of his essence These always looks so much better live than in pictures as well.
"Pretty thoughts" looks great! Fantastic print and captures much of his essence These always looks so much better live than in pictures as well.
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Felipe Pantone ๐ฆ๐ท Exhibition News โข Contemporary Art , by whob1 on May 16, 2018 23:06:57 GMT 1, Avant Arte is getting an impressive list of artist working with them, Fridriks, Pantone and now Insect. They will attract big names for sure.
Avant Arte is getting an impressive list of artist working with them, Fridriks, Pantone and now Insect. They will attract big names for sure.
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Felipe Pantone ๐ฆ๐ท Exhibition News โข Contemporary Art , by whob1 on May 16, 2018 20:39:04 GMT 1, Stunning prints. Think "red" is the best one in my opinion.
Stunning prints. Think "red" is the best one in my opinion.
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David Shrigley โข Donโt, by whob1 on May 8, 2018 19:06:10 GMT 1, Impressive. Popular guy. Anyone know where you can buy the "News" originals?
Impressive. Popular guy. Anyone know where you can buy the "News" originals?
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by whob1 on May 4, 2018 19:56:06 GMT 1, Think selling it several minutes before 10:30 online is a bigger issue than overselling it after time. Just poor, but nice of them to make an apology and lets hope they improve.
Think selling it several minutes before 10:30 online is a bigger issue than overselling it after time. Just poor, but nice of them to make an apology and lets hope they improve.
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Oli Epp ๐ฌ๐ง Post-Digital Pop โข New Painting โข Art For Sale, by whob1 on May 4, 2018 16:19:03 GMT 1, Cancellation here as well
Cancellation here as well
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Felipe Pantone ๐ฆ๐ท Exhibition News โข Contemporary Art , by whob1 on May 2, 2018 16:54:59 GMT 1, Agree. Looks like this is in a different league than his earlier prints. Love his new style. Suprised as well with the pricing, but than again, a great piece of art for 1200/2000EURO, and not a big edition. Hoping for for a blue. What does he sell his originals for?
Agree. Looks like this is in a different league than his earlier prints. Love his new style. Suprised as well with the pricing, but than again, a great piece of art for 1200/2000EURO, and not a big edition. Hoping for for a blue. What does he sell his originals for?
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Felipe Pantone ๐ฆ๐ท Exhibition News โข Contemporary Art , by whob1 on May 2, 2018 14:03:31 GMT 1, If you are gonna quote please quote correctly, and write you own opinion. Not funny.
If you are gonna quote please quote correctly, and write you own opinion. Not funny.
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Felipe Pantone ๐ฆ๐ท Exhibition News โข Contemporary Art , by whob1 on May 2, 2018 8:57:39 GMT 1, avantarte.com/artists/paul-insect/
Heh, expensive! but must admit they look absolutely stunning, big, and AvantArte take things to the next level.
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David Shrigley โข Donโt, by whob1 on May 2, 2018 8:20:22 GMT 1, Love it.
Love it.
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David Shrigley Print, Original, WANTED, by whob1 on Mar 24, 2018 21:50:48 GMT 1, Looking for: David Shrigley - Another Task/Life is Fantastic. Conor Harrington - wwwk. Invader - Kung Fu + Explosion Pejac - Seppuku/Meadow
Have some nice pieces I can be willing to trade with.
Looking for: David Shrigley - Another Task/Life is Fantastic. Conor Harrington - wwwk. Invader - Kung Fu + Explosion Pejac - Seppuku/Meadow
Have some nice pieces I can be willing to trade with.
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Invader Prisoners Print, by whob1 on Feb 23, 2018 12:09:14 GMT 1, But speculations doesnt help. There are serious parts involved, lets hope they communicate, and doesnt come out with anymore vague comments. Its up to them to make an agreement and conclusions, and inform the customers.
But speculations doesnt help. There are serious parts involved, lets hope they communicate, and doesnt come out with anymore vague comments. Its up to them to make an agreement and conclusions, and inform the customers.
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Invader Prisoners Print, by whob1 on Feb 23, 2018 11:25:26 GMT 1, "You agree 100 signed, 200 unsigned. You print all 300, plus extras, say around 20 or 30 or so. Artists signs the 100, signs a few Ap's/PP's etc, the rest are stuck on the shelf. At some point, there's an agreement to not release the unsigned.."
Im not sure your conclusion "worth 50 quid or so at best" can be drawn from this. You speak in general based on your experience, but we dont know what has happened here. This is totally up to what State of Play and Orbi/Invader can prove on agreements. Any written documentation will help them in their favor. If they agreed to print "300", but Invader cant prove that the unsigned was never meant to be released, I guess he/his team screwed up.
"You agree 100 signed, 200 unsigned. You print all 300, plus extras, say around 20 or 30 or so. Artists signs the 100, signs a few Ap's/PP's etc, the rest are stuck on the shelf. At some point, there's an agreement to not release the unsigned.."
Im not sure your conclusion "worth 50 quid or so at best" can be drawn from this. You speak in general based on your experience, but we dont know what has happened here. This is totally up to what State of Play and Orbi/Invader can prove on agreements. Any written documentation will help them in their favor. If they agreed to print "300", but Invader cant prove that the unsigned was never meant to be released, I guess he/his team screwed up.
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Invader Prisoners Print, by whob1 on Feb 22, 2018 14:09:07 GMT 1, If they are sold without Invaders agreement, then its up to the UK Law regulations to determine if it is legal or not to sell these in Invaders name.
If they are sold without Invaders agreement, then its up to the UK Law regulations to determine if it is legal or not to sell these in Invaders name.
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