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Zhao ๐ธ๐ฌ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Gentle Mental on Sept 4, 2014 18:39:43 GMT 1, Dangerous arts by salman Rushdie
THE great Turbine Hall at Londonโs Tate Modern, a former power station, is a notoriously difficult space for an artist to fill with authority. Its immensity can dwarf the imaginations of all but a select tribe of modern artists who understand the mysteries of scale, of how to say something interesting when you also have to say something really big. Louise Bourgeoisโs giant spider once stood menacingly in this hall; Anish Kapoorโs โMarsyas,โ a huge, hollow trumpet-like shape made of a stretched substance that hinted at flayed skin, triumphed over it majestically. Enlarge This Image
Rodrigo Corral and Jennifer Carrow ROOM FOR DEBATE The Artist vs. the State Can there be true artistic freedom without political freedom in China? Join the Discussion Last October the Chinese artist Ai Weiwei covered the floor with his โSunflower Seedsโ: 100 million tiny porcelain objects, each handmade by a master craftsman, no two identical. The installation was a carpet of life, multitudinous, inexplicable and, in the best Surrealist sense, strange. The seeds were intended to be walked on, but further strangeness followed. It was discovered that when trampled they gave off a fine dust that could damage the lungs. These symbolic representations of life could, it appeared, be dangerous to the living. The exhibition was cordoned off and visitors had to walk carefully around the perimeter.
Art can be dangerous. Very often artistic fame has proved dangerous to artists themselves. Mr. Aiโs work is not polemical โ it tends towards the mysterious. But his immense prominence as an artist (he was a design consultant on the โbirdโs nestโ stadium for the Beijing Olympics and was recently ranked No. 13 in Art Review magazineโs list of the 100 most powerful figures in art) has allowed him to take up human rights cases and to draw attention to Chinaโs often inadequate responses to disasters (like the plight of the child victims of the 2008 earthquake in Sichuan Province or those afflicted by deadly apartment fires in Shanghai last November). The authorities have embarrassed and harassed him before, but now they have gone on a dangerous new offensive.
On April 4, Mr. Ai was arrested by the Chinese authorities as he tried to board a plane to Hong Kong. His studio was raided and computers and other items were removed. Since then the regime has allowed hints of his โcrimesโ โ tax evasion, pornography โ to be published. These accusations are not credible to those who know him. It seems the regime, irritated by the outspokenness of its most celebrated art export, whose renown has protected him up to now, has decided to silence him in the most brutal fashion.
The disappearance is made worse by reports that Mr. Ai has started to โconfess.โ His release is a matter of extreme urgency and the governments of the free world have a clear duty in this matter.
Mr. Ai is not the only Chinese artist in dire straits. The great writer Liao Yiwu has been denied permission to travel to the United States to attend the PEN World Voices Festival of International Literature, which begins in New York on Monday, and there are fears that he could be the regimeโs next target. Among the others are Ye Du, Teng Biao and Liu Xianbin โ who was sentenced last month to prison for incitement to subversion, the same charge leveled against the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, now serving an 11-year term.
The lives of artists are more fragile than their creations. The poet Ovid was exiled by Augustus to a little hell-hole on the Black Sea called Tomis, but his poetry has outlasted the Roman Empire. Osip Mandelstam died in a Stalinist work camp, but his poetry has outlived the Soviet Union. Federico Garcรญa Lorca was killed by the thugs of Spainโs Generalissimo Francisco Franco, but his poetry has survived that tyrannical regime.
We can perhaps bet on art to win over tyrants. It is the worldโs artists, particularly those courageous enough to stand up against authoritarianism, for whom we need to be concerned, and for whose safety we must fight.
Not all writers or artists seek or ably perform a public role, and those who do risk obloquy and derision, even in free societies. Susan Sontag, an outspoken commentator on the Bosnian conflict, was giggled at because she sometimes sounded as if she โownedโ the subject of Sarajevo. Harold Pinterโs tirades against American foreign policy and his โChampagne socialismโ were much derided. Gรผnter Grassโs visibility as a public intellectual and scourge of Germanyโs rulers led to a degree of schadenfreude when it came to light that he had concealed his brief service in the Waffen-SS as a conscript at the tail end of World War II. Gabriel Garcรญa Mรกrquezโs friendship with Fidel Castro, and Graham Greeneโs chumminess with Panamaโs Omar Torrijos, made them political targets.
When artists venture into politics the risks to reputation and integrity are ever-present. But outside the free world, where criticism of power is at best difficult and at worst all but impossible, creative figures like Mr. Ai and his colleagues are often the only ones with the courage to speak truth against the lies of tyrants. We needed the samizdat truth-tellers to reveal the ugliness of the Soviet Union. Today the government of China has become the worldโs greatest threat to freedom of speech, and so we need Ai Weiwei, Liao Yiwu and Liu Xiaobo.
Dangerous arts by salman Rushdie
THE great Turbine Hall at Londonโs Tate Modern, a former power station, is a notoriously difficult space for an artist to fill with authority. Its immensity can dwarf the imaginations of all but a select tribe of modern artists who understand the mysteries of scale, of how to say something interesting when you also have to say something really big. Louise Bourgeoisโs giant spider once stood menacingly in this hall; Anish Kapoorโs โMarsyas,โ a huge, hollow trumpet-like shape made of a stretched substance that hinted at flayed skin, triumphed over it majestically. Enlarge This Image
Rodrigo Corral and Jennifer Carrow ROOM FOR DEBATE The Artist vs. the State Can there be true artistic freedom without political freedom in China? Join the Discussion Last October the Chinese artist Ai Weiwei covered the floor with his โSunflower Seedsโ: 100 million tiny porcelain objects, each handmade by a master craftsman, no two identical. The installation was a carpet of life, multitudinous, inexplicable and, in the best Surrealist sense, strange. The seeds were intended to be walked on, but further strangeness followed. It was discovered that when trampled they gave off a fine dust that could damage the lungs. These symbolic representations of life could, it appeared, be dangerous to the living. The exhibition was cordoned off and visitors had to walk carefully around the perimeter.
Art can be dangerous. Very often artistic fame has proved dangerous to artists themselves. Mr. Aiโs work is not polemical โ it tends towards the mysterious. But his immense prominence as an artist (he was a design consultant on the โbirdโs nestโ stadium for the Beijing Olympics and was recently ranked No. 13 in Art Review magazineโs list of the 100 most powerful figures in art) has allowed him to take up human rights cases and to draw attention to Chinaโs often inadequate responses to disasters (like the plight of the child victims of the 2008 earthquake in Sichuan Province or those afflicted by deadly apartment fires in Shanghai last November). The authorities have embarrassed and harassed him before, but now they have gone on a dangerous new offensive.
On April 4, Mr. Ai was arrested by the Chinese authorities as he tried to board a plane to Hong Kong. His studio was raided and computers and other items were removed. Since then the regime has allowed hints of his โcrimesโ โ tax evasion, pornography โ to be published. These accusations are not credible to those who know him. It seems the regime, irritated by the outspokenness of its most celebrated art export, whose renown has protected him up to now, has decided to silence him in the most brutal fashion.
The disappearance is made worse by reports that Mr. Ai has started to โconfess.โ His release is a matter of extreme urgency and the governments of the free world have a clear duty in this matter.
Mr. Ai is not the only Chinese artist in dire straits. The great writer Liao Yiwu has been denied permission to travel to the United States to attend the PEN World Voices Festival of International Literature, which begins in New York on Monday, and there are fears that he could be the regimeโs next target. Among the others are Ye Du, Teng Biao and Liu Xianbin โ who was sentenced last month to prison for incitement to subversion, the same charge leveled against the Nobel Peace Prize laureate Liu Xiaobo, now serving an 11-year term.
The lives of artists are more fragile than their creations. The poet Ovid was exiled by Augustus to a little hell-hole on the Black Sea called Tomis, but his poetry has outlasted the Roman Empire. Osip Mandelstam died in a Stalinist work camp, but his poetry has outlived the Soviet Union. Federico Garcรญa Lorca was killed by the thugs of Spainโs Generalissimo Francisco Franco, but his poetry has survived that tyrannical regime.
We can perhaps bet on art to win over tyrants. It is the worldโs artists, particularly those courageous enough to stand up against authoritarianism, for whom we need to be concerned, and for whose safety we must fight.
Not all writers or artists seek or ably perform a public role, and those who do risk obloquy and derision, even in free societies. Susan Sontag, an outspoken commentator on the Bosnian conflict, was giggled at because she sometimes sounded as if she โownedโ the subject of Sarajevo. Harold Pinterโs tirades against American foreign policy and his โChampagne socialismโ were much derided. Gรผnter Grassโs visibility as a public intellectual and scourge of Germanyโs rulers led to a degree of schadenfreude when it came to light that he had concealed his brief service in the Waffen-SS as a conscript at the tail end of World War II. Gabriel Garcรญa Mรกrquezโs friendship with Fidel Castro, and Graham Greeneโs chumminess with Panamaโs Omar Torrijos, made them political targets.
When artists venture into politics the risks to reputation and integrity are ever-present. But outside the free world, where criticism of power is at best difficult and at worst all but impossible, creative figures like Mr. Ai and his colleagues are often the only ones with the courage to speak truth against the lies of tyrants. We needed the samizdat truth-tellers to reveal the ugliness of the Soviet Union. Today the government of China has become the worldโs greatest threat to freedom of speech, and so we need Ai Weiwei, Liao Yiwu and Liu Xiaobo.
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Zhao ๐ธ๐ฌ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Gentle Mental on Sept 4, 2014 16:08:56 GMT 1, nothing about the children of Sichuan earthquake...
China sting shows censors fear posts that incite unrest
19:00 21 August 2014 by Aviva Rutkin
Last year, violence broke out in a north-western corner of China, when members of the local Uighur population โ an ethnic minority in China โ faced off against the police. Dozens of people were reportedly killed, and social media lit up with posts about the riots. But as China's many censors got to work, many posts also quickly disappeared. But how did the government decide which could stay and which had to go?
A group of US researchers can help answer that question. They have lifted the lid on Chinese online censorship โ by pretending to be censors themselves. They found that the censors of China's social media sites are only worried about posts that may incite mass protests, rather than ones that poke fun at individual politicians, for example.
Acting like a social media start-up, Gary King at Harvard University and his colleagues built a fake website, bought a domain name and server space inside China, and populated the site with their own posts. Then, they obtained a copy of the software that helps Chinese website administrators censor their content so they stay out of trouble with the authorities. When questions about how the software worked came up, answers were just a phone call to customer service away.
"We could call customer service and say, 'How do we stay out of trouble with the Chinese government?' They would say, 'Let me tell you,'" says King. "Customer service was pretty good at their job."
Reverse engineering The software could automatically block posts that came from banned IP addresses or contained problematic keywords. But many of the censorship choices were still deferred to human judgment. Some sites held posts for manual review within 24 hours; others automatically published the post, and a person would check in later to decide if it was OK.
If in-house human censors, rather than software, were calling the shots, then perhaps the researchers could divine insight into the minds of both government and independent censors by examining their choices carefully. King's team went back to real social media sites such as Sina Weibo. Of the 100 sites, 20 were run by central government, 25 were by overseen by local authorities, and 55 were privately owned.
The researchers wrote more than 1000 comments about controversial topics, such as artist Ai Weiwei's music, a village protest in Panxu, and the Uighur riots in Xinjiang. The researchers tracked if and when the posts were taken down.
"The censorship programme is like an elephant tiptoeing around. It leaves big footprints," says King. "We can look at those footprints and learn things about the intentions of the Chinese government that would be difficult to learn otherwise."
Collectivism a no-no To their surprise, the posts that were most likely to be censored were those that mentioned collective action in the real world, like a protest or a boycott. Even posts that praised the government could be censored if they also referenced collective action.
Meanwhile, criticism and complaints often made it through to publication. A satirical post about the Uighur situation went viral, and only got censored about 10 per cent of the time.
King suspects this is because the government is more worried about regime stability than anything else, so they exert most of their pressure on posts that could jeopardise their power. "They don't care what anybody says about them in and of itself. They care what people will do with that information," he says.
Degrees of criticism Before this study, we only had "very impressionistic understandings" of the Chinese government's priorities, says Susan Shirk, director of the 21st Century China Program at the University of California, San Diego. The findings suggest that censorship decisions are more nuanced than previously thought.
"It's really an amazing piece of work, to be able to do that kind of intervention and look at the impact of the intervention. Nobody has ever done anything quite like that before," Shirk says. In some ways, the censorship system is tighter than we thought, she says, and in some ways looser.
Min Jiang at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte is more sceptical of the results. She suspects there are still some kinds of complaints that the government would want to censor, like Western media reports that expose abuses of power. "Criticism has many different degrees," she notes.
nothing about the children of Sichuan earthquake...
China sting shows censors fear posts that incite unrest
19:00 21 August 2014 by Aviva Rutkin
Last year, violence broke out in a north-western corner of China, when members of the local Uighur population โ an ethnic minority in China โ faced off against the police. Dozens of people were reportedly killed, and social media lit up with posts about the riots. But as China's many censors got to work, many posts also quickly disappeared. But how did the government decide which could stay and which had to go?
A group of US researchers can help answer that question. They have lifted the lid on Chinese online censorship โ by pretending to be censors themselves. They found that the censors of China's social media sites are only worried about posts that may incite mass protests, rather than ones that poke fun at individual politicians, for example.
Acting like a social media start-up, Gary King at Harvard University and his colleagues built a fake website, bought a domain name and server space inside China, and populated the site with their own posts. Then, they obtained a copy of the software that helps Chinese website administrators censor their content so they stay out of trouble with the authorities. When questions about how the software worked came up, answers were just a phone call to customer service away.
"We could call customer service and say, 'How do we stay out of trouble with the Chinese government?' They would say, 'Let me tell you,'" says King. "Customer service was pretty good at their job."
Reverse engineering The software could automatically block posts that came from banned IP addresses or contained problematic keywords. But many of the censorship choices were still deferred to human judgment. Some sites held posts for manual review within 24 hours; others automatically published the post, and a person would check in later to decide if it was OK.
If in-house human censors, rather than software, were calling the shots, then perhaps the researchers could divine insight into the minds of both government and independent censors by examining their choices carefully. King's team went back to real social media sites such as Sina Weibo. Of the 100 sites, 20 were run by central government, 25 were by overseen by local authorities, and 55 were privately owned.
The researchers wrote more than 1000 comments about controversial topics, such as artist Ai Weiwei's music, a village protest in Panxu, and the Uighur riots in Xinjiang. The researchers tracked if and when the posts were taken down.
"The censorship programme is like an elephant tiptoeing around. It leaves big footprints," says King. "We can look at those footprints and learn things about the intentions of the Chinese government that would be difficult to learn otherwise."
Collectivism a no-no To their surprise, the posts that were most likely to be censored were those that mentioned collective action in the real world, like a protest or a boycott. Even posts that praised the government could be censored if they also referenced collective action.
Meanwhile, criticism and complaints often made it through to publication. A satirical post about the Uighur situation went viral, and only got censored about 10 per cent of the time.
King suspects this is because the government is more worried about regime stability than anything else, so they exert most of their pressure on posts that could jeopardise their power. "They don't care what anybody says about them in and of itself. They care what people will do with that information," he says.
Degrees of criticism Before this study, we only had "very impressionistic understandings" of the Chinese government's priorities, says Susan Shirk, director of the 21st Century China Program at the University of California, San Diego. The findings suggest that censorship decisions are more nuanced than previously thought.
"It's really an amazing piece of work, to be able to do that kind of intervention and look at the impact of the intervention. Nobody has ever done anything quite like that before," Shirk says. In some ways, the censorship system is tighter than we thought, she says, and in some ways looser.
Min Jiang at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte is more sceptical of the results. She suspects there are still some kinds of complaints that the government would want to censor, like Western media reports that expose abuses of power. "Criticism has many different degrees," she notes.
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Zhao ๐ธ๐ฌ Print Release โข Show News โข Art For Sale, by Gentle Mental on Sept 3, 2014 20:28:07 GMT 1, Nytimes:
The name and works of Ai Weiwei have been removed from a show in Shanghai about the history of Chinese contemporary art because of pressure from local government cultural officials, according to Mr. Ai and Uli Sigg, a Swiss art collector who helped organize the exhibition. Mr. Ai said he thought the move was in response to his vocal criticism of the Chinese government.
The exhibition, โ15 Years Chinese Contemporary Art Award,โ chronicles the history of the art prize that Mr. Sigg, a former Swiss ambassador to China, created in 1998 to help foster the Chinese art scene. It includes about 50 works from more than a dozen award winners.
Mr. Ai won the award for lifetime contribution in 2008 and served on the jury the first three times the awards were granted. Two of his works, a wooden stool and porcelain sunflower seeds, were to be included in the show at the Power Station of Art, Mr. Ai said.
The state-owned museum negotiated with cultural officials over whether Mr. Aiโs works could be included, Mr. Sigg said. A few days before the April 26 opening, Mr. Sigg said, he was told that they could not.
โWe were not really a party to this,โ Mr. Sigg said. โIn the end it was the Power Station and the cultural bureau. In the end we said we must accept. We donโt understand but we must accept that his works will not be in there.โ
Mr. Ai posted a photo on his Instagram account of two taped boxes that he said contained the seeds, which had been left in a museum office. Power Station of Art officials could not be reached for comment Tuesday evening.
Mr. Sigg said he was angered to learn minutes before the opening of the show that museum workers had removed Mr. Aiโs name from the lists of winners and jury members painted on a wall.
He said he had considered stopping the show, but without any way to negotiate with Shanghai Municipal Bureau of Culture officials and minutes to go before the start, he instead chose to register his complaints in his opening comments. His mention that one artist couldnโt be included was not translated, he said.
Mr. Ai said he believes he was targeted because of his political views. He has been an outspoken critic of the government on several issues including censorship and the death of schoolchildren in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake.
The Beijing-based artist also has had previous conflicts with Shanghai officials. In 2011 municipal officials ordered the demolition of a studio he had built in Shanghai, which he called retaliation for his activism.
Mr. Aiโs absence from the show comes as he has engaged in a separate dispute with the makers of a 10-minute science-fiction film shot in Beijing.
The artist said he was upset that he was given prominent billing in the film and that his name was used to promote a Kickstarter funding campaign for that movie, โThe Sand Storm,โ despite his small role as a smuggler. โI think they should not use my name to raise money and explain to the public that Iโm not a main character,โ he said.
The director of the film, Jason Wishnow, could not be reached Tuesday for comment. The filmโs Kickstarter page now carries a message that says it is โthe subject of an intellectual property dispute and is currently unavailable.โ
Mr. Ai said in the two disputes he saw the distinct difference between his image in China and outside of the country.
โIโve been very involved in Chinese contemporary art, one of the first to make a gallery, make a studio, make underground books,โ he said. โAnd here my name is erased. On the other hand you have a movie done by a Western person, that I was not so involved in, and they use my name like this. Itโs funny when you put these things together.โ
Nytimes:
The name and works of Ai Weiwei have been removed from a show in Shanghai about the history of Chinese contemporary art because of pressure from local government cultural officials, according to Mr. Ai and Uli Sigg, a Swiss art collector who helped organize the exhibition. Mr. Ai said he thought the move was in response to his vocal criticism of the Chinese government.
The exhibition, โ15 Years Chinese Contemporary Art Award,โ chronicles the history of the art prize that Mr. Sigg, a former Swiss ambassador to China, created in 1998 to help foster the Chinese art scene. It includes about 50 works from more than a dozen award winners.
Mr. Ai won the award for lifetime contribution in 2008 and served on the jury the first three times the awards were granted. Two of his works, a wooden stool and porcelain sunflower seeds, were to be included in the show at the Power Station of Art, Mr. Ai said.
The state-owned museum negotiated with cultural officials over whether Mr. Aiโs works could be included, Mr. Sigg said. A few days before the April 26 opening, Mr. Sigg said, he was told that they could not.
โWe were not really a party to this,โ Mr. Sigg said. โIn the end it was the Power Station and the cultural bureau. In the end we said we must accept. We donโt understand but we must accept that his works will not be in there.โ
Mr. Ai posted a photo on his Instagram account of two taped boxes that he said contained the seeds, which had been left in a museum office. Power Station of Art officials could not be reached for comment Tuesday evening.
Mr. Sigg said he was angered to learn minutes before the opening of the show that museum workers had removed Mr. Aiโs name from the lists of winners and jury members painted on a wall.
He said he had considered stopping the show, but without any way to negotiate with Shanghai Municipal Bureau of Culture officials and minutes to go before the start, he instead chose to register his complaints in his opening comments. His mention that one artist couldnโt be included was not translated, he said.
Mr. Ai said he believes he was targeted because of his political views. He has been an outspoken critic of the government on several issues including censorship and the death of schoolchildren in the 2008 Sichuan earthquake.
The Beijing-based artist also has had previous conflicts with Shanghai officials. In 2011 municipal officials ordered the demolition of a studio he had built in Shanghai, which he called retaliation for his activism.
Mr. Aiโs absence from the show comes as he has engaged in a separate dispute with the makers of a 10-minute science-fiction film shot in Beijing.
The artist said he was upset that he was given prominent billing in the film and that his name was used to promote a Kickstarter funding campaign for that movie, โThe Sand Storm,โ despite his small role as a smuggler. โI think they should not use my name to raise money and explain to the public that Iโm not a main character,โ he said.
The director of the film, Jason Wishnow, could not be reached Tuesday for comment. The filmโs Kickstarter page now carries a message that says it is โthe subject of an intellectual property dispute and is currently unavailable.โ
Mr. Ai said in the two disputes he saw the distinct difference between his image in China and outside of the country.
โIโve been very involved in Chinese contemporary art, one of the first to make a gallery, make a studio, make underground books,โ he said. โAnd here my name is erased. On the other hand you have a movie done by a Western person, that I was not so involved in, and they use my name like this. Itโs funny when you put these things together.โ
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I'm out. I can't do it anymore., by Gentle Mental on Aug 15, 2014 17:46:13 GMT 1, i'm kinda out too... only popping in to pick up a POW archived pieces at pre-hype prices...
the "new" wave is just too familiar. can't get excited.
the old wave has ran very thin on ideas or priced themselves way out of my range.
the scene's getting old but i think i'm getting older.
nowadays i just pop by galleries to window shop.
not buying, but still looking at price tags (a habit hard to break).
i'm kinda out too... only popping in to pick up a POW archived pieces at pre-hype prices...
the "new" wave is just too familiar. can't get excited.
the old wave has ran very thin on ideas or priced themselves way out of my range.
the scene's getting old but i think i'm getting older.
nowadays i just pop by galleries to window shop.
not buying, but still looking at price tags (a habit hard to break).
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Visit NORWAY ๐ง๐ป Oslo โข Bergen Street Art โข Galleries, by Gentle Mental on Jun 26, 2014 14:46:21 GMT 1, yep. it's money. hype. money. more hype. more money.
till hype floods the market and money dries up.
kinda like early brainwash.
yep. it's money. hype. money. more hype. more money.
till hype floods the market and money dries up.
kinda like early brainwash.
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Gentle Mental on Jun 16, 2014 8:09:44 GMT 1, I was manipulated once. It felt good. Ish. Chiropractor? nope... evil master puppeteer - Mr Giuseppe! Grrrr... some knots can't be undone!
I was manipulated once. It felt good. Ish. Chiropractor? nope... evil master puppeteer - Mr Giuseppe! Grrrr... some knots can't be undone!
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Gentle Mental on Jun 16, 2014 5:59:22 GMT 1, I was manipulated once. It felt good. Ish.
I was manipulated once. It felt good. Ish.
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Jamie Hewlett ๐ฌ๐ง The Gorillaz โข Tank Girl โข Comic Book, by Gentle Mental on Jun 10, 2014 17:27:20 GMT 1, really brings back memories... these hewlett prints! collecting really good street art was so fun then! and affordable!
really brings back memories... these hewlett prints! collecting really good street art was so fun then! and affordable!
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on May 22, 2014 13:29:51 GMT 1, i got a reply too! it's coming!
my email before and after was filled with love. (more love after, but still..)
i got a reply too! it's coming!
my email before and after was filled with love. (more love after, but still..)
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on May 21, 2014 15:49:35 GMT 1, I've given up on getting the book, the book and print, and getting my money back. Emailed the gits 15 times now. Through the web site, directly, facebook and nadda. Created a Paypal dispute but too old for them to do anything. Cheese eating surrender monkeys. not giving up... no email, no refund, no book...
still writing to them, two three times a week since you guys've been receiving the "it's coming" email...
i believe in the goodness of all people kind.
I've given up on getting the book, the book and print, and getting my money back. Emailed the gits 15 times now. Through the web site, directly, facebook and nadda. Created a Paypal dispute but too old for them to do anything. Cheese eating surrender monkeys. not giving up... no email, no refund, no book... still writing to them, two three times a week since you guys've been receiving the "it's coming" email... i believe in the goodness of all people kind.
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on May 15, 2014 10:40:28 GMT 1, didn't even get that french email regarding shipping... should i worry? Have you checked your profile page on the bookstores webpage? I saw mine there a couple of days ago, didn't receive anything by email. yes it says under status "payment received"
but no sign of shipping.... just wrote to them the 3 rd time, this time in Google French...
didn't even get that french email regarding shipping... should i worry? Have you checked your profile page on the bookstores webpage? I saw mine there a couple of days ago, didn't receive anything by email. yes it says under status "payment received" but no sign of shipping.... just wrote to them the 3 rd time, this time in Google French...
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on May 14, 2014 17:35:04 GMT 1, didn't even get that french email regarding shipping... should i worry?
didn't even get that french email regarding shipping... should i worry?
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David Hockney ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Painting โข Show News โข Art For , by Gentle Mental on May 8, 2014 12:41:07 GMT 1, And 98k us for the 2meters. Cheap for a huge small Ed Hockney. Inkjet is the only worry.
But that is the right medium no?
And 98k us for the 2meters. Cheap for a huge small Ed Hockney. Inkjet is the only worry. But that is the right medium no?
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by Gentle Mental on Apr 28, 2014 17:44:40 GMT 1, Just picked this up from the framer. "Dream" (Newsprint Ed.) by Zhao Mine was destroyed before I got it (it was stuck to itself and could not be separated). I'm jealous. It looks great. pm'd! mmmike
and really nice framing! gonefellow!
Just picked this up from the framer. "Dream" (Newsprint Ed.) by Zhao Mine was destroyed before I got it (it was stuck to itself and could not be separated). I'm jealous. It looks great. pm'd! mmmike and really nice framing! gonefellow!
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Show everyone your latest Art Purchase?, by Gentle Mental on Apr 28, 2014 17:44:26 GMT 1, Just picked this up from the framer. "Dream" (Newsprint Ed.) by Zhao Mine was destroyed before I got it (it was stuck to itself and could not be separated). I'm jealous. It looks great. pm'd! mmmike
and really nice framing! gonefellow!
Just picked this up from the framer. "Dream" (Newsprint Ed.) by Zhao Mine was destroyed before I got it (it was stuck to itself and could not be separated). I'm jealous. It looks great. pm'd! mmmike and really nice framing! gonefellow!
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Adam Neate The Brothers, Art Beijing 2014, by Gentle Mental on Apr 23, 2014 16:10:00 GMT 1, going to beijing! can't wait to see it in the flesh!
had long chats with the man in Singapore the last time he was around, incredibly nice guy. soft spoken but laser focus.
the gist: dimension may not be a necessity in his art, but i think he wants to fuse technology with classical painting styles in a very organic and natural way to create new forms of expression that are precisely smudgy.
it's the inverse of photoshop. don't look at the jpegs. see it in the flesh, as and when we can. as often as we can.
going to beijing! can't wait to see it in the flesh!
had long chats with the man in Singapore the last time he was around, incredibly nice guy. soft spoken but laser focus.
the gist: dimension may not be a necessity in his art, but i think he wants to fuse technology with classical painting styles in a very organic and natural way to create new forms of expression that are precisely smudgy.
it's the inverse of photoshop. don't look at the jpegs. see it in the flesh, as and when we can. as often as we can.
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Any Dr. Seuss orignal sketches out there?, by Gentle Mental on Apr 17, 2014 1:15:02 GMT 1, I am sad With nothing to add Maybe I will get myself a vandaladoodledadbad. Is that good? No it's bad. A vandaladoodledadbad is bad for your nads.
I am sad With nothing to add Maybe I will get myself a vandaladoodledadbad. Is that good? No it's bad. A vandaladoodledadbad is bad for your nads.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 26, 2014 1:35:45 GMT 1, i think all this is a ploy to out-post outis's thread.
i think all this is a ploy to out-post outis's thread.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 25, 2014 10:18:53 GMT 1, i think a lot of people are angrier than they should - cuz it's like winning a lottery (an ed 500 banksy for only $60!!!) then only to realise it's not.
bummer leads to anger and anger leads to the dark side...
do consider chilling... and not be too hard on BNE - a pretty righteous street artist.
i think a lot of people are angrier than they should - cuz it's like winning a lottery (an ed 500 banksy for only $60!!!) then only to realise it's not.
bummer leads to anger and anger leads to the dark side...
do consider chilling... and not be too hard on BNE - a pretty righteous street artist.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 24, 2014 8:42:08 GMT 1, f this BNE and Outis crap... POW!!!! BANKSY!!! release a print already!
the longer it takes the more pent up demand, the more opportunists are going to make scam/social experiments like this...
f this BNE and Outis crap... POW!!!! BANKSY!!! release a print already!
the longer it takes the more pent up demand, the more opportunists are going to make scam/social experiments like this...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 24, 2014 3:28:55 GMT 1, 2 questions.
1. Why would a Banksy ed 500 anything costs only $60? If intention is to raise money, $500 would still sell it out.
2. And if it were a Banksy, could someone please explain what's the "artistic intention" behind discrediting a charitable organisation that claims to be saving lives with all this f ups?? Only reason i can think of is to hype it up to raise even more money - but there are far easier way to raise a million with Banksy's art - or easier way to raise awareness...
2 questions.
1. Why would a Banksy ed 500 anything costs only $60? If intention is to raise money, $500 would still sell it out.
2. And if it were a Banksy, could someone please explain what's the "artistic intention" behind discrediting a charitable organisation that claims to be saving lives with all this f ups?? Only reason i can think of is to hype it up to raise even more money - but there are far easier way to raise a million with Banksy's art - or easier way to raise awareness...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 23, 2014 2:34:46 GMT 1, "has not" but "will"....
which explains the 3 months....blank tees...
but really don't get the need to "lie" if he's done it.. what's the punchline?
"has not" but "will".... which explains the 3 months....blank tees... but really don't get the need to "lie" if he's done it.. what's the punchline?
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Gentle Mental on Mar 22, 2014 22:01:18 GMT 1, scam alert only AFTER it's been launched makes no sense.
my two cents - it's not a scam.
just unofficial - not a work of art PC would verify.
ie. pest control and jo won't authenticate it - too much work/pain...
overslept and missed the whole thing... gawd... wished i were scammed.
scam alert only AFTER it's been launched makes no sense.
my two cents - it's not a scam.
just unofficial - not a work of art PC would verify.
ie. pest control and jo won't authenticate it - too much work/pain...
overslept and missed the whole thing... gawd... wished i were scammed.
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OUTIS โข Print Release โข Street Art, by Gentle Mental on Feb 16, 2014 18:12:48 GMT 1, To commemorate how pointless this thread is I'm adding this pointless post.
To commemorate how pointless this thread is I'm adding this pointless post.
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on Jan 15, 2014 16:05:05 GMT 1, Any idea what the free original look like?
Any idea what the free original look like?
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KwangHo Shin ๐ฐ๐ท Seoul, South Korea โข Abstract Portraits , by Gentle Mental on Jan 13, 2014 12:41:59 GMT 1, very interesting! it's so beautifully uglily beautiful?
how much an original cost? any links to any gallery? is he french?
very interesting! it's so beautifully uglily beautiful?
how much an original cost? any links to any gallery? is he french?
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Send Ai Weiwei a tweet! (last call), by Gentle Mental on Dec 30, 2013 16:39:55 GMT 1, Why don't you two just put each other on ignore? done.
yay! free at last! thanks!
Why don't you two just put each other on ignore? done. yay ! free at last! thanks!
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Send Ai Weiwei a tweet! (last call), by Gentle Mental on Dec 30, 2013 15:35:44 GMT 1, I re read my posts and they made me blush! Gosh what have I become? This is one of my favourite site on the web. And I never want to do anything to ruin it. Again apologies if I'd caused annoyance. Anger got a hold of me and I lost control. Best to one and all and have a great new year. Gm Ha Ha Bout as genuine as an Ai Wei wei tax return:D Why are you writing in broken English all of a sudden need some sympathy. just as fake and as genuine as your art. I say this because your a copy writer so interesting that you suddenly forgot how to write good grief.
I re read my posts and they made me blush! Gosh what have I become? This is one of my favourite site on the web. And I never want to do anything to ruin it. Again apologies if I'd caused annoyance. Anger got a hold of me and I lost control. Best to one and all and have a great new year. Gm Ha Ha Bout as genuine as an Ai Wei wei tax return:D Why are you writing in broken English all of a sudden need some sympathy. just as fake and as genuine as your art. I say this because your a copy writer so interesting that you suddenly forgot how to write good grief.
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Send Ai Weiwei a tweet! (last call), by Gentle Mental on Dec 30, 2013 13:38:25 GMT 1, thanks guys!
thanks guys!
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Send Ai Weiwei a tweet! (last call), by Gentle Mental on Dec 30, 2013 7:48:14 GMT 1, I re read my posts and they made me blush!
Gosh what have I become?
This is one of my favourite site on the web.
And I never want to do anything to ruin it.
Again apologies if I'd caused annoyance.
Anger got a hold of me and I lost control.
Best to one and all and have a great new year.
Gm
I re read my posts and they made me blush!
Gosh what have I become?
This is one of my favourite site on the web.
And I never want to do anything to ruin it.
Again apologies if I'd caused annoyance.
Anger got a hold of me and I lost control.
Best to one and all and have a great new year.
Gm
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