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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 11:10:16 GMT 1,
(long post, but I copied it from another site, so it's a bunch of posts in a thread)
I thought there was a special section on this forum for scams and questionable Ebayers...? no?
Anyway, as many of my posts indicate, I was looking for signed CND forever. I had an unsigned but wanted to upgrade as this is one of my all time favorites. Recently, I thought I had finally found one on Ebay, was in contact with him during the auction and won the auction. The seller was a Powerseller and everything looked pretty legit.
So I pick it up Monday and it's in the smallest, thinest tube like the standard white ones you can grab at a Post Office store. Definately not yazoo and definately not double-tubed. I'm scared to death opening it, but surprise surprise there is no damage to the tube.
The problem is, I open it up and inside there is just a print out with my address on it 'thanking me for the purchase' and a small gray garbage bag....
WTF?!?
No print, no provenace, no receipt, nothing. I checked the Royal mail tracking and it followed it until taken over by USPS. I checked into the insurance for this delivery and here's what the website says.. I'm assuming the seller is still responsible for FULL coverage,...
"How much compensation will I get if my item is lost or damaged?
If your item is lost or damaged in transit, we will pay compensation of up to the value of 100 First Class stamps per item upon production of a copy of the certificate of posting and proof of item value. Extra compensation of up to £250 or up to £500 (depending on the country) is available for an extra charge of £2.20 per item (in addition to the £3.70 International Signed For™ fee). "
and to top it off, he only used 11 pounds of the 37.50 pounds I gave him for the postage. So the rest had better gone to the insurance. I don't care that the Royal mail coverage only goes upto 500pounds (IF) he paid the 2.50 extra (which he didn't) I am entitled to the FULL amount 2100GBPs. IMO he needed to refund me and worry about refunds himself.
I contacted the seller and god the standard, 'oh shit' I can't believe that happened response...
I took pictures of the package and sent them to him and for a day or two he acted as if he was going to work things out... I filled out any paperwork he needed me to on Royal Mail but he never refunded me despite me asking him to.
I realized I was very close to that 21 day hold funds period on Paypal so I told him I was going to file a dispute/cliam for my own protection but that I would cancel it at anytime as soon as he returned my money... no response, no refund.
Now, I can't prove he was the scammer though I'll say why I think he is later. But what I CAN call him out on and warn anyone here from buying from him in the future is that the guy supossedly sent me a $3200 print in a single tube that would barely have fit the print had it been in there AND he didn't even insure it DESPITE me paying for insurance as part of the shipping. Who does that? I specifically asked him to double-tube it in our communications.
he did track the shipment (to show paypal it was shipped) but said:
"I can only summise that it has been stolen from the tube, I note from your email that there was a waste bag in the tube ? I dont know why as we only put the print / cert / and thankyou letter in there.
I suggest that you contact the postal people your end and lodge a claim using the above number
I have spoken with the UK postal service who have advised that you will need to do this your end , as the insurance will cover you your end."
First of all, he was going to make me recover? the buyer who paid $3200 and got nothing? WTF? Besides, he DIDN'T insure it. How was I going to get anything back?
cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160327288741
Anyway, here's when I became suspicious of the seller and I haven't heard from him since.. I told him he should also inform Dora the print number for their records.. and I remembered- in his auction, he stated that he was the original purchaser. Knowing his name and print number we could find out about this seller pretty quickly.
I asked him several times for the print number and never found out, he has refuse to tell me.
Anyway, he claims someone stole it during shipping. Possible I suppose but highly unlikely. all of the little things point to him trying to pull off a scam.
happy ending for me is that I'm getting all my money back, but can you guys imagine the feeling of opening a tube expecting to find your favorite and very expensive (by far the most I've ever spent on a print) artwork inside only to find a mini-garbagebag?!?
I kept looking in there thinking I must have missed it, that it was up against the tiny tube wall...
Anyway- lessons learned:
A) ALWAYS use a credit card through PayPal NOT direct bank withdrawls
B) Just because someone is a Powerseller selling tons of 2 dollar items does not make them trustworthy (in the worst case scenerio) or wise in packing/shipping (in the best case scenerio). Make sure he has refrences selling like items. Even if the seller didn't scam me, he did a piss poor job throughout this whole transaction.
(long post, but I copied it from another site, so it's a bunch of posts in a thread) I thought there was a special section on this forum for scams and questionable Ebayers...? no? Anyway, as many of my posts indicate, I was looking for signed CND forever. I had an unsigned but wanted to upgrade as this is one of my all time favorites. Recently, I thought I had finally found one on Ebay, was in contact with him during the auction and won the auction. The seller was a Powerseller and everything looked pretty legit. So I pick it up Monday and it's in the smallest, thinest tube like the standard white ones you can grab at a Post Office store. Definately not yazoo and definately not double-tubed. I'm scared to death opening it, but surprise surprise there is no damage to the tube. The problem is, I open it up and inside there is just a print out with my address on it 'thanking me for the purchase' and a small gray garbage bag.... WTF?!? No print, no provenace, no receipt, nothing. I checked the Royal mail tracking and it followed it until taken over by USPS. I checked into the insurance for this delivery and here's what the website says.. I'm assuming the seller is still responsible for FULL coverage,... "How much compensation will I get if my item is lost or damaged? If your item is lost or damaged in transit, we will pay compensation of up to the value of 100 First Class stamps per item upon production of a copy of the certificate of posting and proof of item value. Extra compensation of up to £250 or up to £500 (depending on the country) is available for an extra charge of £2.20 per item (in addition to the £3.70 International Signed For™ fee). " and to top it off, he only used 11 pounds of the 37.50 pounds I gave him for the postage. So the rest had better gone to the insurance. I don't care that the Royal mail coverage only goes upto 500pounds (IF) he paid the 2.50 extra (which he didn't) I am entitled to the FULL amount 2100GBPs. IMO he needed to refund me and worry about refunds himself. I contacted the seller and god the standard, 'oh shit' I can't believe that happened response... I took pictures of the package and sent them to him and for a day or two he acted as if he was going to work things out... I filled out any paperwork he needed me to on Royal Mail but he never refunded me despite me asking him to. I realized I was very close to that 21 day hold funds period on Paypal so I told him I was going to file a dispute/cliam for my own protection but that I would cancel it at anytime as soon as he returned my money... no response, no refund. Now, I can't prove he was the scammer though I'll say why I think he is later. But what I CAN call him out on and warn anyone here from buying from him in the future is that the guy supossedly sent me a $3200 print in a single tube that would barely have fit the print had it been in there AND he didn't even insure it DESPITE me paying for insurance as part of the shipping. Who does that? I specifically asked him to double-tube it in our communications. he did track the shipment (to show paypal it was shipped) but said: "I can only summise that it has been stolen from the tube, I note from your email that there was a waste bag in the tube ? I dont know why as we only put the print / cert / and thankyou letter in there. I suggest that you contact the postal people your end and lodge a claim using the above number I have spoken with the UK postal service who have advised that you will need to do this your end , as the insurance will cover you your end." First of all, he was going to make me recover? the buyer who paid $3200 and got nothing? WTF? Besides, he DIDN'T insure it. How was I going to get anything back? cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160327288741Anyway, here's when I became suspicious of the seller and I haven't heard from him since.. I told him he should also inform Dora the print number for their records.. and I remembered- in his auction, he stated that he was the original purchaser. Knowing his name and print number we could find out about this seller pretty quickly. I asked him several times for the print number and never found out, he has refuse to tell me. Anyway, he claims someone stole it during shipping. Possible I suppose but highly unlikely. all of the little things point to him trying to pull off a scam. happy ending for me is that I'm getting all my money back, but can you guys imagine the feeling of opening a tube expecting to find your favorite and very expensive (by far the most I've ever spent on a print) artwork inside only to find a mini-garbagebag?!? I kept looking in there thinking I must have missed it, that it was up against the tiny tube wall... Anyway- lessons learned: A) ALWAYS use a credit card through PayPal NOT direct bank withdrawls B) Just because someone is a Powerseller selling tons of 2 dollar items does not make them trustworthy (in the worst case scenerio) or wise in packing/shipping (in the best case scenerio). Make sure he has refrences selling like items. Even if the seller didn't scam me, he did a piss poor job throughout this whole transaction. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Sundowner on May 14, 2009 11:16:41 GMT 1, That is a really terrible thing to have happened and it sounds that you have definitely been scammed by the seller.
That is a really terrible thing to have happened and it sounds that you have definitely been scammed by the seller.
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Karl Read
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Karl Read on May 14, 2009 11:19:42 GMT 1, Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back?
Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back?
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by dynamixx on May 14, 2009 11:24:28 GMT 1, Anyone that scams or counterfeits under Banksy's name really needs to have a word with themselves. Karma awaits.
Hope you get this sorted.
Anyone that scams or counterfeits under Banksy's name really needs to have a word with themselves. Karma awaits.
Hope you get this sorted.
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cpo
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 11:30:10 GMT 1, Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back?
not from the seller, that's for sure..Forget waiting for Paypal to 'decide' you should be responsible and then the possibility that they find for me but seller might have cleared his account (though I believe there was complete buyer protection, which PP would then cover,not sure).... the magic word: chargeback. Having the same Credit Card for 15+ years and NEVER having issues like this (well, I had a cancelation of a flight they covered me ) sure helps.
Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back? not from the seller, that's for sure..Forget waiting for Paypal to 'decide' you should be responsible and then the possibility that they find for me but seller might have cleared his account (though I believe there was complete buyer protection, which PP would then cover,not sure).... the magic word: chargeback. Having the same Credit Card for 15+ years and NEVER having issues like this (well, I had a cancelation of a flight they covered me ) sure helps. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by doublehelix on May 14, 2009 11:36:49 GMT 1, Nightmare, glad you managed to get your funds back via your credit card company.
Nightmare, glad you managed to get your funds back via your credit card company.
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by mattlan on May 14, 2009 11:39:19 GMT 1, i take it your are in the states and this guy is in the uk mate? my own view on this is if your both in the uk and your dropping over a grand on somthing, you may as well go and pick it up - it's the only way to be sure. whats half a days driving when there's so much money at steak? i dont understand why people dont actually go to pick goods up.
anywayglad you got your money back mate, is it the credit card company that has come through for you then?
i take it your are in the states and this guy is in the uk mate? my own view on this is if your both in the uk and your dropping over a grand on somthing, you may as well go and pick it up - it's the only way to be sure. whats half a days driving when there's so much money at steak? i dont understand why people dont actually go to pick goods up.
anywayglad you got your money back mate, is it the credit card company that has come through for you then?
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Karl Read on May 14, 2009 11:39:23 GMT 1, Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back? not from the seller, that's for sure..Forget waiting for Paypal to 'decide' you should be responsible and then the possibility that they find for me but seller might have cleared his account (though I believe there was complete buyer protection, which PP would then cover,not sure).... the magic word: chargeback. Having the same Credit Card for 15+ years and NEVER having issues like this (well, I had a cancelation of a flight they covered me ) sure helps.
Il bare that in mind for the future. Glad you got things sorted, some real A-holes out there!
Wow harsh, how are you managing to get your money back? not from the seller, that's for sure..Forget waiting for Paypal to 'decide' you should be responsible and then the possibility that they find for me but seller might have cleared his account (though I believe there was complete buyer protection, which PP would then cover,not sure).... the magic word: chargeback. Having the same Credit Card for 15+ years and NEVER having issues like this (well, I had a cancelation of a flight they covered me ) sure helps. Il bare that in mind for the future. Glad you got things sorted, some real A-holes out there! |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by atomone on May 14, 2009 11:48:39 GMT 1, That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale...
That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale...
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 11:55:38 GMT 1, That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale...
thanks, but at this point, I'm a little gun shy on this particular print and any other expensive print I can't pick up in person...I was scared enough when the lady behind the counter pulled out a tiny little tube, but horified pulling out a $3200 garbage bag.
to the person who thought maybe I was in the US... No, I'm in Japan, but have access to the US postal system. Seller was from the UK.
By the way, I took pictures of the tube and bag, if I can figure out how to post them here, maybe someone can tell me if these types of bags are common in the UK, personally, I've never seen them before. They are smaller with a red strip across the top for closing them...
That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale... thanks, but at this point, I'm a little gun shy on this particular print and any other expensive print I can't pick up in person...I was scared enough when the lady behind the counter pulled out a tiny little tube, but horified pulling out a $3200 garbage bag. to the person who thought maybe I was in the US... No, I'm in Japan, but have access to the US postal system. Seller was from the UK. By the way, I took pictures of the tube and bag, if I can figure out how to post them here, maybe someone can tell me if these types of bags are common in the UK, personally, I've never seen them before. They are smaller with a red strip across the top for closing them... |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by grantb on May 14, 2009 11:55:58 GMT 1, yer i would always pick up if it was a banksy, lucky your getting your money back !!
yer i would always pick up if it was a banksy, lucky your getting your money back !!
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Pistol on May 14, 2009 11:58:50 GMT 1, Correct me if I'm wrong but Banksy prints come with COA's like that in 2005?
Correct me if I'm wrong but Banksy prints come with COA's like that in 2005?
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by bert on May 14, 2009 12:02:45 GMT 1, Glad to hear you got your money back from your CC.
I wonder what ebay/paypal will do when that chargeback comes through...pursue with the seller or just write it off as a loss. Whilst it's impossible to say for sure, sounds like he tried scamming you, I'd be tempted to fire all the info off to the police (looks like location is in Southend).
Glad to hear you got your money back from your CC.
I wonder what ebay/paypal will do when that chargeback comes through...pursue with the seller or just write it off as a loss. Whilst it's impossible to say for sure, sounds like he tried scamming you, I'd be tempted to fire all the info off to the police (looks like location is in Southend).
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 12:16:16 GMT 1, Glad to hear you got your money back from your CC. I wonder what ebay/paypal will do when that chargeback comes through...pursue with the seller or just write it off as a loss. Whilst it's impossible to say for sure, sounds like he tried scamming you, I'd be tempted to fire all the info off to the police (looks like location is in Southend).
The credit card reverses the PayPal transaction and Paypal will go after the seller. the seller told me the funds were frozen (before he went silent) but it was after the 21 days, I think he was lying. They would try to collect whatever they can (this seller is still selling things on Ebay as far as I know) from his account, but I'm sure part of Paypals 3% take goes to insurance for exactly these types of deals/scams.
Glad to hear you got your money back from your CC. I wonder what ebay/paypal will do when that chargeback comes through...pursue with the seller or just write it off as a loss. Whilst it's impossible to say for sure, sounds like he tried scamming you, I'd be tempted to fire all the info off to the police (looks like location is in Southend). The credit card reverses the PayPal transaction and Paypal will go after the seller. the seller told me the funds were frozen (before he went silent) but it was after the 21 days, I think he was lying. They would try to collect whatever they can (this seller is still selling things on Ebay as far as I know) from his account, but I'm sure part of Paypals 3% take goes to insurance for exactly these types of deals/scams. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by silvermyn on May 14, 2009 12:17:38 GMT 1, That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale... thanks, but at this point, I'm a little gun shy on this particular print and any other expensive print I can't pick up in person...I was scared enough when the lady behind the counter pulled out a tiny little tube, but horified pulling out a $3200 garbage bag. to the person who thought maybe I was in the US... No, I'm in Japan, but have access to the US postal system. Seller was from the UK. By the way, I took pictures of the tube and bag, if I can figure out how to post them here, maybe someone can tell me if these types of bags are common in the UK, personally, I've never seen them before. They are smaller with a red strip across the top for closing them...
How much do you want for that bag...? 
That is awful! good luck getting a signed replacement from a legit seller! I was watching that exact print on ebay as I have an unsigned one and would love a signed one myself, I can't imagine how gutting that must have felt!! Maybe someone will read this post and offer one up for sale... thanks, but at this point, I'm a little gun shy on this particular print and any other expensive print I can't pick up in person...I was scared enough when the lady behind the counter pulled out a tiny little tube, but horified pulling out a $3200 garbage bag. to the person who thought maybe I was in the US... No, I'm in Japan, but have access to the US postal system. Seller was from the UK. By the way, I took pictures of the tube and bag, if I can figure out how to post them here, maybe someone can tell me if these types of bags are common in the UK, personally, I've never seen them before. They are smaller with a red strip across the top for closing them... How much do you want for that bag...? |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Deleted on May 14, 2009 12:19:47 GMT 1, was the garbage bag signed ? 
you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way.
was the garbage bag signed ? you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by G-Man on May 14, 2009 12:26:34 GMT 1, I'm glad you got your money back
I know the feeling of opening that tube to find out you have been scammed happened to me with a Love Rat last year, makes you sick to the bottom of your stomach
Great advice for anyone buying on Ebay as well to use CC to ensure that you have an extra back up insurance
Seems that now its not only good enough to steer clear of Bank Transfers but Bank PayPal too!
Lets hope that he gets his karma
I'm glad you got your money back
I know the feeling of opening that tube to find out you have been scammed happened to me with a Love Rat last year, makes you sick to the bottom of your stomach
Great advice for anyone buying on Ebay as well to use CC to ensure that you have an extra back up insurance
Seems that now its not only good enough to steer clear of Bank Transfers but Bank PayPal too!
Lets hope that he gets his karma
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2009 12:33:20 GMT 1, Glad to hear you reached resolution CPO, at least financially.
Now please post ALL the info you have about thist C U N T! As he's probably a member here and would be best avoided in any dealings clearly!
I have always sh1t myself buying expensive items on Ebay and to be perfectly honest once you're talking about spending thousands of £££ or $$$ on an item, I just will not do it. What happened to you is EXACTLY what I'm most afraid of. Thanks for sharing your experience and your advice and I sincerely hope any data you can offer will expose the identity of this seller and make him/her easier for others to avoid. Make sure your Ebay feedback stands out to warn others off as much as possible too!
Glad to hear you reached resolution CPO, at least financially.
Now please post ALL the info you have about thist C U N T! As he's probably a member here and would be best avoided in any dealings clearly!
I have always sh1t myself buying expensive items on Ebay and to be perfectly honest once you're talking about spending thousands of £££ or $$$ on an item, I just will not do it. What happened to you is EXACTLY what I'm most afraid of. Thanks for sharing your experience and your advice and I sincerely hope any data you can offer will expose the identity of this seller and make him/her easier for others to avoid. Make sure your Ebay feedback stands out to warn others off as much as possible too!
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 12:39:08 GMT 1, Well, to be honest, I can''t prove he didn't send a print.. but I can show he didn't insure or package it well... if he would have given up the print number we might have been able to prove he was the scammer, but I'm only 85% sure.. his Ebay info is in the first post in the ebay link. I will word my negative feedback to reflect what I can prove (unfortunately)
I will say this, he runs a company of some sort and the website went down a couple weeks before the auction...
Well, to be honest, I can''t prove he didn't send a print.. but I can show he didn't insure or package it well... if he would have given up the print number we might have been able to prove he was the scammer, but I'm only 85% sure.. his Ebay info is in the first post in the ebay link. I will word my negative feedback to reflect what I can prove (unfortunately)
I will say this, he runs a company of some sort and the website went down a couple weeks before the auction...
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Deleted on May 14, 2009 12:42:10 GMT 1, you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way.
Notwithstanding that this is a really disappointing result for the buyer and ...
- at best, a lesson to the seller to insure properly
- at worst, highlighting a seller to be avoided
... your statement above is a pretty sweeping generalisation. I've sold and bought some pretty expensive stuff on eBay and, through taking sensible precautions, always got a good result. I imagine I've also had a good dose of luck, but it would be unfair to label every ebayer on one side of the Atlantic a cheapstake who irresponsibly cuts corners.
you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way. Notwithstanding that this is a really disappointing result for the buyer and ... - at best, a lesson to the seller to insure properly - at worst, highlighting a seller to be avoided ... your statement above is a pretty sweeping generalisation. I've sold and bought some pretty expensive stuff on eBay and, through taking sensible precautions, always got a good result. I imagine I've also had a good dose of luck, but it would be unfair to label every ebayer on one side of the Atlantic a cheapstake who irresponsibly cuts corners. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by richy00 on May 14, 2009 12:45:34 GMT 1, you can get his address off ebay as you won the item...
anyone live in southend??
you can get his address off ebay as you won the item...
anyone live in southend??
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by wiz on May 14, 2009 12:46:58 GMT 1, The package. Pics posted on behalf of cpo.
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by redfred on May 14, 2009 13:01:29 GMT 1, Terrible news, I know how badly you wanted one, the seller says this is mint and been rolled up since purchase, if its been rolled up for over 3years you might have had a lucky escape as I doubt if it would now be mint!!
Terrible news, I know how badly you wanted one, the seller says this is mint and been rolled up since purchase, if its been rolled up for over 3years you might have had a lucky escape as I doubt if it would now be mint!!
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by dotdot on May 14, 2009 13:11:03 GMT 1, cpo / wizbong
sad story.
messy when it's art coming to the us - or for that matter the other way around.
protection using pp and ebay / cc is a grey area.
currently from what you say your cc company will protect you - in the
us - the same does not appear to be the case in uk.
Folks in the uk - take note - if you stump up and it goes pear - your cc company will back away from the table and run.
as will paypal your bank and... well you get the jist ...
I was scammed a while back - and had to take pp to the banking ombudsman
(don't know if there's an equiv in the us).
Suffice to say it's a messy area and one which one must always proceed with caution over.
cpo / wiz - no name of the seller ? have you complained to ebay / had their membership reviewed ?
Good to hear it worked out - however i still have an uncertain feeling at times when it comes to hearing this kind of story - puts me ill at ease when dealing with the us (in my case) - though have bought a few things from folks over there with no real trouble.
(btw - coa looks sus)
cpo / wizbong
sad story.
messy when it's art coming to the us - or for that matter the other way around.
protection using pp and ebay / cc is a grey area.
currently from what you say your cc company will protect you - in the
us - the same does not appear to be the case in uk.
Folks in the uk - take note - if you stump up and it goes pear - your cc company will back away from the table and run.
as will paypal your bank and... well you get the jist ...
I was scammed a while back - and had to take pp to the banking ombudsman
(don't know if there's an equiv in the us).
Suffice to say it's a messy area and one which one must always proceed with caution over.
cpo / wiz - no name of the seller ? have you complained to ebay / had their membership reviewed ?
Good to hear it worked out - however i still have an uncertain feeling at times when it comes to hearing this kind of story - puts me ill at ease when dealing with the us (in my case) - though have bought a few things from folks over there with no real trouble.
(btw - coa looks sus)
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 15:40:42 GMT 1,
just FYI: CPO is not Wiz.. I just sent Wiz the pics to download as I can't figure out how to download pics on this forum for some reason..
I'm REALLY interested in hearing from someone who owns a signed CND and I want to know what the provenance looks like. Is what was advertised in the auction what you have? Maybe I should have known going in this was a scam...
just FYI: CPO is not Wiz.. I just sent Wiz the pics to download as I can't figure out how to download pics on this forum for some reason..
I'm REALLY interested in hearing from someone who owns a signed CND and I want to know what the provenance looks like. Is what was advertised in the auction what you have? Maybe I should have known going in this was a scam...
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by bigwilly on May 14, 2009 15:46:47 GMT 1, could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed
could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 15:51:23 GMT 1, you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way. Notwithstanding that this is a really disappointing result for the buyer and ... - at best, a lesson to the seller to insure properly - at worst, highlighting a seller to be avoided ... your statement above is a pretty sweeping generalisation. I've sold and bought some pretty expensive stuff on eBay and, through taking sensible precautions, always got a good result. I imagine I've also had a good dose of luck, but it would be unfair to label every ebayer on one side of the Atlantic a cheapstake who irresponsibly cuts corners.
yeah, I didn't respond/answer to topboy because I couldn't figure out who he was talking about...one one hand he uses the term 'take the piss' which implies he is from the UK but then says across the pond which would mean he's talking about those from the US, but it was the seller from the UK that didn't buy the insurance in this case even though I paid for the insurance. I didn't cut any corners,.. so I wasn't sure which side of the Atlantic he was slamming, but either way NEITHER side should ship a $3000 Banksy uninsured in a shitty tube.
you had a lucky escape there, to me it seems that over the pond sellers are happy to take the piss on the insurance and pocket the money they saved, and they never like to file a claim for damaged or lost items either (ime) Credit card all the way. Notwithstanding that this is a really disappointing result for the buyer and ... - at best, a lesson to the seller to insure properly - at worst, highlighting a seller to be avoided ... your statement above is a pretty sweeping generalisation. I've sold and bought some pretty expensive stuff on eBay and, through taking sensible precautions, always got a good result. I imagine I've also had a good dose of luck, but it would be unfair to label every ebayer on one side of the Atlantic a cheapstake who irresponsibly cuts corners. yeah, I didn't respond/answer to topboy because I couldn't figure out who he was talking about...one one hand he uses the term 'take the piss' which implies he is from the UK but then says across the pond which would mean he's talking about those from the US, but it was the seller from the UK that didn't buy the insurance in this case even though I paid for the insurance. I didn't cut any corners,.. so I wasn't sure which side of the Atlantic he was slamming, but either way NEITHER side should ship a $3000 Banksy uninsured in a shitty tube. |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by cpo on May 14, 2009 15:55:12 GMT 1, could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed
click on the link on the first post.. it's UKcartell or something like that...
could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed click on the link on the first post.. it's UKcartell or something like that... |
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by Heavyconsumer on May 14, 2009 16:01:24 GMT 1, could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed
[glow=red,2,300]ukcartellimited[/glow]
could you please tell us this Jokers ebay name so others don't get scammed
[glow=red,2,300]ukcartellimited[/glow]
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Either my Banksy was stolen or I was scammed, by doublehelix on May 14, 2009 16:10:55 GMT 1, I'm REALLY interested in hearing from someone who owns a signed CND and I want to know what the provenance looks like.
That's a Pest Control COA. Anyone with an authentic Banksy print can apply for one from here:
www.pestcontroloffice.com
I'm REALLY interested in hearing from someone who owns a signed CND and I want to know what the provenance looks like. That's a Pest Control COA. Anyone with an authentic Banksy print can apply for one from here: www.pestcontroloffice.com |
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