Urban Art Association

Do the hokey cokey or the macarena?

Well from what in hear, you put your left leg in, left leg out




Then shake it all about

that's crazy, we need to stop this

Whilst I agree that this is a rum do when it happens, there really is nothing you can do about it. The only thing you can do personally is not buy them.

Just inform the ebay mods that they're selling stolen goodd - they'll take down his account, particularly with the evidence you've got. Of course it doesn't stop someone he's contacted trying to get hold of him some how but does make it a hell more difficult

Not signed and not meant to be framed. Not worth anything in my mind.

I'm interested to know the legal position on this. Can any men or women of the law inform me?

I own a wall. Someone puts up some ceramic tiles without my permission. Someone then takes down these ceramic tiles. Strikes me the tiles no longer belong to Invader when he puts them up, so we shouldn't feel sorry for him. Do they 'belong' to the wall owner?

They are not stealing anything ,like someone said don't buy them.

Yes if it was me and I saw one, I would prob remove it and place it on my wall!! Shoot me now but it's no different than finding £50 in the street!

I agree, but would never pay for it

Tut tut tut. Mr invader puts his mosaics in place for peoples enjoyment and involvement. For People that don't know why they are there it's the novelty and the question why. For the people that know why there there it's about the game. For the greedy people out there it's about the money..... And for the people that are selfish enough to believe its ok to take these of the street I would say shame on you...

What can you do? Report someone for stealing something that was illegally placed art work? Mr invader is unlikely to go to the local Police station to report the theft is he?
As with all street art, Enjoy today as tomorrow it may be gone. That is the beauty of the art as it is ephemeral which makes it all the more special. Take the invader off the wall and it then is just a pile of coloured tiles.

Disputable who the owner is. There also has to be a report of a theft before there is one.

Invader would have to claim it and state where he put it before he could accuse someone of stealing. Still disputable as could be said he left it there to be taken as did Adam Neate. So court would decide.

Lets say he placed it on my wall. I would charge him and the person who removed it with criminal damage - vandalism. Possibility that the person taking down had permission or repaired the wall. Again only the wall owner could make this charge.

Could the wall owner claim to be the owner yes but it is not guaranteed that he/she would win. Eg if I leave my car in your drive way do you become the owner. Again Invader would still have a claim if he wanted to pursue.

Key here really is that Invader accepts that the pieces are taken down and some are sold its a consequence. Probably not overjoyed but its what happens.

He knows these are forsale if he wants to. Sure he knows how to use EBay etc. he puts them up so they do not look good when they come down and they don't so it's lost really when they come down.

i can remember some doors signed samo being sold at major auction houses.

there were no COA i beleive.

invader is not basquiat, we all agree, but definitely those have a value, and maybe much more in the future.
invader will probably not put mozaic for the next 20 years, so at one point there will be just a very few remaining.

it will be rare then, and they will be sold, and that's life...

cheers!