dreadnatty
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KAWS at Paddle8, by dreadnatty on Sept 5, 2013 3:28:06 GMT 1, BETTER DAYS AHEAD, 2013
Acrylic on paper
20 in x 16 in (50.8 cm x 40.64 cm)
Unique
Courtesy of The Artist
Signed
Estimate $16,000
its up to 12K(US)
paddle8.com/work/kaws/19823-better-days-ahead
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brendan1985
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KAWS at Paddle8, by brendan1985 on Sept 6, 2013 13:46:52 GMT 1, I don't get those paddle! item are always over price, what is the point to sell work from the gallery's?? they always have to put high estimate on the work
I don't get those paddle! item are always over price, what is the point to sell work from the gallery's?? they always have to put high estimate on the work I'm not sure I or anyone else is certain of what you are banging on about, But if you are referring to the fact that the paintings almost always go for well over the pre auction estimates, that is true. Those prices are merely there to "weed" out the passers by as the serious bidders are usually aware of roughly where the auction will end. |
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Wenters
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KAWS at Paddle8, by Wenters on Sept 6, 2013 15:00:43 GMT 1, It's at $26k with 10 days to go...
It's at $26k with 10 days to go...
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lee3
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KAWS at Paddle8, by lee3 on Sept 6, 2013 17:57:52 GMT 1, I have the impression that his work does better at lower price points than top. These insignificant works always go bonkers at these types of auctions. Yet as I think of a couple large canvases that sold at PdP and Christies they sold low in comparison to what this is going for. You can argue that the canvases at PdP weren't great, but neither is this. In fact I thought the black monochrome at PDp was a pretty nice piece, sold for about 150k usd? But when you consider this minor work on paper is going for practically 30k that canvas should have sold for much more. Makes me suspect that the big collectors don't share the same enthusiasm for him as the small time collectors do. Thanks to the great recession of 2008 I couldn't afford to buy a Kaws canvas even though I was offered some. Particularly stings now seeing people in a bidding frenzy over this thing which in my opinion is weak. I was offered some works at almost half this price and was much nicer. I couldn't care less about having this snoopy piece on my wall. 26k is just stupid money for this. People need their heads examined.
Fast forward less than 50 years later and the combined value of those 32 works would be near $150 million US and yet they went unsold in sum for what might have been $8k at the time. I find that body of work to be among the handful of his most powerful images and yet they were so polarizing and far ahead of their time that nobody wanted them on release. The point of my post is not to compare Kaws to Warhol but rather just an interesting aside to get the facts above out of my head as I'm still having difficulty digesting them. Your point about 26k for this snoopy being stupid money rings so true on one hand and yet you always have to consider the verdict that time may weigh. Like you, I see little value in that composition at that price but if (big if) Kaws' work stands the test of time that price will look silly by comparison just as you point out you had much better work at half that price a few short years ago.
I have the impression that his work does better at lower price points than top. These insignificant works always go bonkers at these types of auctions. Yet as I think of a couple large canvases that sold at PdP and Christies they sold low in comparison to what this is going for. You can argue that the canvases at PdP weren't great, but neither is this. In fact I thought the black monochrome at PDp was a pretty nice piece, sold for about 150k usd? But when you consider this minor work on paper is going for practically 30k that canvas should have sold for much more. Makes me suspect that the big collectors don't share the same enthusiasm for him as the small time collectors do. Thanks to the great recession of 2008 I couldn't afford to buy a Kaws canvas even though I was offered some. Particularly stings now seeing people in a bidding frenzy over this thing which in my opinion is weak. I was offered some works at almost half this price and was much nicer. I couldn't care less about having this snoopy piece on my wall. 26k is just stupid money for this. People need their heads examined. Interesting point, I don't collect Kaws but always interesting to look back over your shoulder. Your post reminds me of some reading I did last night on behalf of someone else as we were discussing the Warhol electric chairs with the silence in the corner. The question was how many were made and I opened the catalog raisonne to check and was fascinated with a paragraph of reading which I'll paraphrase. 32 canvases all measuring 22x28 inches in various rich colors painted in late '64 and hung for one month in a gallery in Toronto beginning March of '65. All 32 canvases were hung on one wall in 8 rows of 4 with spaces between each canvas to "reinforce the perception that they were individual works doubtlessly to facilitate sales, although it appears that few, if any, works sold from the show." Fast forward less than 50 years later and the combined value of those 32 works would be near $150 million US and yet they went unsold in sum for what might have been $8k at the time. I find that body of work to be among the handful of his most powerful images and yet they were so polarizing and far ahead of their time that nobody wanted them on release. The point of my post is not to compare Kaws to Warhol but rather just an interesting aside to get the facts above out of my head as I'm still having difficulty digesting them. Your point about 26k for this snoopy being stupid money rings so true on one hand and yet you always have to consider the verdict that time may weigh. Like you, I see little value in that composition at that price but if (big if) Kaws' work stands the test of time that price will look silly by comparison just as you point out you had much better work at half that price a few short years ago. |
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KAWS at Paddle8, by Deleted on Sept 6, 2013 18:51:41 GMT 1, A little like 'Shoulda woulda coulda' but with hindsight and a little bit of sure thing stardust thrown in maybe. The things we should have bought in the past and for one reason or another,its scary to think!.
A little like 'Shoulda woulda coulda' but with hindsight and a little bit of sure thing stardust thrown in maybe. The things we should have bought in the past and for one reason or another,its scary to think!.
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brendan1985
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KAWS at Paddle8, by brendan1985 on Sept 17, 2013 5:50:24 GMT 1, does anyone know the final price on the KAWS? Did it stay at 26K?
does anyone know the final price on the KAWS? Did it stay at 26K?
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brendan1985
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KAWS at Paddle8, by brendan1985 on Sept 18, 2013 11:04:01 GMT 1, Interesting, If anyone can confirm or deny that would be great. I know it was suposse to go to a live auction after the online bidding but i never heard anything and cant find any info on it.
Interesting, If anyone can confirm or deny that would be great. I know it was suposse to go to a live auction after the online bidding but i never heard anything and cant find any info on it.
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uglyyoungin
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KAWS at Paddle8, by uglyyoungin on Sept 18, 2013 20:49:10 GMT 1,
Not surprised.... 
Not surprised.... |
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KAWS at Paddle8, by Deleted on Sept 24, 2013 15:49:35 GMT 1, 
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