Baby Dave
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Baby Dave on Jul 25, 2014 6:35:39 GMT 1, Pardon my ignorance but why do you want this reported.....and why can't you do it yourself?
Pardon my ignorance but why do you want this reported.....and why can't you do it yourself?
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WOOF
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Please report this ebay listing..., by WOOF on Jul 25, 2014 6:38:43 GMT 1, Because they're selling something with a pic that isn't theirs. Do they even own the print? I don't know, but I wouldn't want someone to find out the hard way that they don't.
and I already did, but more can't hurt.
Because they're selling something with a pic that isn't theirs. Do they even own the print? I don't know, but I wouldn't want someone to find out the hard way that they don't.
and I already did, but more can't hurt.
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iamzero
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Please report this ebay listing..., by iamzero on Jul 25, 2014 6:43:04 GMT 1, No expert but you might wanna explain the story on here so people can decide if they can help or not dude?
No expert but you might wanna explain the story on here so people can decide if they can help or not dude?
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Poster Bob
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Poster Bob on Jul 25, 2014 7:05:59 GMT 1, This is really silly. People use stock photos all the time. This guy probably did because he doesn't want to take the print out of the tube.
This is really silly. People use stock photos all the time. This guy probably did because he doesn't want to take the print out of the tube.
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alittle
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Please report this ebay listing..., by alittle on Jul 25, 2014 7:20:59 GMT 1, No one can really report this, but you, as you are the only on that has a claim to that photo. Start watermarking your images if it bothers you.
No one can really report this, but you, as you are the only on that has a claim to that photo. Start watermarking your images if it bothers you.
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jusdeep
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Please report this ebay listing..., by jusdeep on Jul 25, 2014 7:21:01 GMT 1, I've had this happen on many occasions. The only way to get around it is to watermark the pictures so it can't be cropped out, which to be honest is a pain in the ass.
I've tried reporting for copyright, but unfortunately eBay's system is not great as they only allow you to report and not send a valid reason along with that, also they take action as they deem fit and don't inform you of their decision. Sometimes it works and the item is removed, sometimes a polite pm to the seller works, sometimes eBay doesn't give a monkeys. At the end of the day it's just pure laziness on the part of the seller. I've had this happen plenty of times, even down to the seller copying my description word for word or using my personal photos of events.
I would suggest if you haven't, contact the seller politely, asking them to remove all of your photos or you will take action with eBay. If they don't report for breech of copyright or call and speak with someone at eBay which may work better. All you have to do is link the reported item along with your original listing number.
I've had this happen on many occasions. The only way to get around it is to watermark the pictures so it can't be cropped out, which to be honest is a pain in the ass.
I've tried reporting for copyright, but unfortunately eBay's system is not great as they only allow you to report and not send a valid reason along with that, also they take action as they deem fit and don't inform you of their decision. Sometimes it works and the item is removed, sometimes a polite pm to the seller works, sometimes eBay doesn't give a monkeys. At the end of the day it's just pure laziness on the part of the seller. I've had this happen plenty of times, even down to the seller copying my description word for word or using my personal photos of events.
I would suggest if you haven't, contact the seller politely, asking them to remove all of your photos or you will take action with eBay. If they don't report for breech of copyright or call and speak with someone at eBay which may work better. All you have to do is link the reported item along with your original listing number.
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letiss
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August 2011
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Please report this ebay listing..., by letiss on Jul 25, 2014 7:25:15 GMT 1, This listing could also be reported for keyword spamming.
This listing could also be reported for keyword spamming.
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Poster Bob
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Poster Bob on Jul 25, 2014 7:27:02 GMT 1, Btw, you are going about this all wrong. If you want to pull it you should report it for misuse of a brand name, I.e. Banksy. They deal with that a lot more quickly than some guy who says his picture was stolen on the Internet.
Btw, you are going about this all wrong. If you want to pull it you should report it for misuse of a brand name, I.e. Banksy. They deal with that a lot more quickly than some guy who says his picture was stolen on the Internet.
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Please report this ebay listing..., by BandyBarhol on Jul 25, 2014 7:51:31 GMT 1, Watermark images in future and for now send him a kind message before contacting bay I would say
Watermark images in future and for now send him a kind message before contacting bay I would say
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johnnyh
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March 2011
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Please report this ebay listing..., by johnnyh on Jul 25, 2014 8:20:26 GMT 1, Although you may have took the photo and it may be of your print. Think you might find the person placing that eBay advert has done nothing wrong legally or otherwise using your pic...probably/almost certainly.
Eg he probably got the image in public domain the internet.
Although copyright laws are seen by people to protect the owner and are used by big companies to protect brands etc. they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public.
So think you will find that he/she has every right to use that picture for illustrative purposes. He no where states that this is a picture of the actual piece and never states it is his/her photo.
as long as he did not steal your camera or gain access to your image illegally then I am afraid not sure they have done anything wrong.
now you accusing him of stealing when he hasn't is actually not correct at all..so I would change that title if I were you.
note I do not know the eBay seller etc just pointing out the situ
Although you may have took the photo and it may be of your print. Think you might find the person placing that eBay advert has done nothing wrong legally or otherwise using your pic...probably/almost certainly.
Eg he probably got the image in public domain the internet.
Although copyright laws are seen by people to protect the owner and are used by big companies to protect brands etc. they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public.
So think you will find that he/she has every right to use that picture for illustrative purposes. He no where states that this is a picture of the actual piece and never states it is his/her photo.
as long as he did not steal your camera or gain access to your image illegally then I am afraid not sure they have done anything wrong.
now you accusing him of stealing when he hasn't is actually not correct at all..so I would change that title if I were you.
note I do not know the eBay seller etc just pointing out the situ
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Mark Perronet
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Mark Perronet on Jul 25, 2014 9:11:24 GMT 1, have to take issue with 'they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public. ' re copyright laws. No they are not, they are designed to protect the creator of the work, be that a painting, photograph, book, song whatever. The first photo, if taken by nosnereb, belongs to him/her, it is his/her copyright. (although to sell it would be tricky as the copyright of the image in the print is Whatson's)
However got to agree with other forumites, what's the big deal?
have to take issue with 'they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public. ' re copyright laws. No they are not, they are designed to protect the creator of the work, be that a painting, photograph, book, song whatever. The first photo, if taken by nosnereb, belongs to him/her, it is his/her copyright. (although to sell it would be tricky as the copyright of the image in the print is Whatson's)
However got to agree with other forumites, what's the big deal?
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mikehaspey
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johnnyh
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Please report this ebay listing..., by johnnyh on Jul 25, 2014 11:28:51 GMT 1, Mark you misunderstand my point. The reason copy rights are limited is too allow access and usage for growth. This stems from the original copyright law.
However we were not discussing ownership but the usage of images etc. you may or may not be aware of in copyright law there is a legal term called "Fair use" which is kind of for want of a better description in the public interest.so for example and using the eBay advert. The print copyright image is Whatsons....however under fair use he would not be able to stop this advert as it's just a forsale ad to sell the print and therefore fair use.
the same can also be said of the photo if it was in the public domain as no claims to ownership are made by the seller therefore unlikely a copyright infringement under fair use.
So copyright protects ownership and abuse but also provides for public benefit
copyright law limits the exclusive rights to writings and paintings.
eg you write or paint it it's not yours in everything others have rights too whatever they are hence the law. For our American friends it's even in their constitution.
Mark you misunderstand my point. The reason copy rights are limited is too allow access and usage for growth. This stems from the original copyright law.
However we were not discussing ownership but the usage of images etc. you may or may not be aware of in copyright law there is a legal term called "Fair use" which is kind of for want of a better description in the public interest.so for example and using the eBay advert. The print copyright image is Whatsons....however under fair use he would not be able to stop this advert as it's just a forsale ad to sell the print and therefore fair use.
the same can also be said of the photo if it was in the public domain as no claims to ownership are made by the seller therefore unlikely a copyright infringement under fair use.
So copyright protects ownership and abuse but also provides for public benefit
copyright law limits the exclusive rights to writings and paintings.
eg you write or paint it it's not yours in everything others have rights too whatever they are hence the law. For our American friends it's even in their constitution.
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Hairbland
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November 2010
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Hairbland on Jul 25, 2014 12:22:59 GMT 1, have to take issue with 'they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public. ' re copyright laws. No they are not, they are designed to protect the creator of the work, be that a painting, photograph, book, song whatever. The first photo, if taken by nosnereb, belongs to him/her, it is his/her copyright. (although to sell it would be tricky as the copyright of the image in the print is Whatson's) However got to agree with other forumites, what's the big deal?
Kinda impressed they are trying to get $1,000 for it - is this one of the few sold in Brooklyn?
have to take issue with 'they are actually designed to allow fair use of things by the public. ' re copyright laws. No they are not, they are designed to protect the creator of the work, be that a painting, photograph, book, song whatever. The first photo, if taken by nosnereb, belongs to him/her, it is his/her copyright. (although to sell it would be tricky as the copyright of the image in the print is Whatson's) However got to agree with other forumites, what's the big deal? I'm not really sure if some person takes a regular pic of something (there is no "creation" here) that they have any type of copyright. I agree no big deal. Kinda impressed they are trying to get $1,000 for it - is this one of the few sold in Brooklyn? |
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WOOF
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Please report this ebay listing..., by WOOF on Jul 25, 2014 15:32:36 GMT 1, Didn't read anything above (super busy), but I'm sure you'll all right.
Basically I don't know the seller, and don't want someone to get f**ked because they took a picture they found online and maybe own the print, maybe not. But hey, in the end I guess I don't care.
Didn't read anything above (super busy), but I'm sure you'll all right.
Basically I don't know the seller, and don't want someone to get f**ked because they took a picture they found online and maybe own the print, maybe not. But hey, in the end I guess I don't care.
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 15:44:14 GMT 1, I really can't see how you can get f£&@?! unless he is trying to sell a print he doesn't have using your ebay account!
I really can't see how you can get f£&@?! unless he is trying to sell a print he doesn't have using your ebay account!
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WOOF
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Please report this ebay listing..., by WOOF on Jul 25, 2014 15:44:57 GMT 1, I really can't see how you can get f£&@?! unless he is trying to sell a print he doesn't have using your ebay account!
I really can't see how you can get f£&@?! unless he is trying to sell a print he doesn't have using your ebay account! I can't get fucked. If someone buys it, and the guy doesn't have the print, they'll get fucked. |
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Deleted on Jul 25, 2014 15:46:57 GMT 1, Fair enough misread your post. Sorry.
Fair enough misread your post. Sorry.
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Please report this ebay listing..., by bullysonzx10r on Jul 25, 2014 17:25:25 GMT 1, Nosnereb isn't trying to do anything but protect someone who might buy this print, when the seller potentially doesn't have the print, since he stole the picture for the listing.
I don't think this needs to be a huge debate. Nosnereb is just trying to be a good guy and potentially protect a buyer who might get screwed...
Nosnereb isn't trying to do anything but protect someone who might buy this print, when the seller potentially doesn't have the print, since he stole the picture for the listing.
I don't think this needs to be a huge debate. Nosnereb is just trying to be a good guy and potentially protect a buyer who might get screwed...
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johnnyh
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Please report this ebay listing..., by johnnyh on Jul 25, 2014 17:59:08 GMT 1, Just saying based on the facts not sure he has that right. You can't just accuse someone of stealing...This asshole stole my photo etc
Even the implication that he/she may not have a print etc is rather suspect
Have a feeling this pic being available is nosnerebs error.....like every other pic I have posted of my pieces..so not being critical just alluding to some of the facts.
not sure why he did not contact the eBay seller and ask them
Just saying based on the facts not sure he has that right. You can't just accuse someone of stealing...This asshole stole my photo etc
Even the implication that he/she may not have a print etc is rather suspect
Have a feeling this pic being available is nosnerebs error.....like every other pic I have posted of my pieces..so not being critical just alluding to some of the facts.
not sure why he did not contact the eBay seller and ask them
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.dappy
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Please report this ebay listing..., by .dappy on Jul 25, 2014 20:57:33 GMT 1,
... any picture you put on this/any forum will come up on a picture search at some point. I put dappy 'c' on mine - just because ... I have seen galleries use someone else's photos for prints they allegedly have and one or two persons on the bay have deliberately cropped out my mark and then stated in the Description 'This print ...'
A polite message to them changed their ways and they revised that it was not a photo of their print or they got off their ass and took their own photos. 
... any picture you put on this/any forum will come up on a picture search at some point. I put dappy 'c' on mine - just because ... I have seen galleries use someone else's photos for prints they allegedly have and one or two persons on the bay have deliberately cropped out my mark and then stated in the Description 'This print ...' A polite message to them changed their ways and they revised that it was not a photo of their print or they got off their ass and took their own photos. |
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swamped
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Please report this ebay listing..., by swamped on Jul 25, 2014 21:13:52 GMT 1, Worry about your own back yard, just say buyer beware and leave it at that. People will do what they do... Imo. Cheers
Worry about your own back yard, just say buyer beware and leave it at that. People will do what they do... Imo. Cheers
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Winter
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Winter on Jul 26, 2014 12:24:52 GMT 1, Every time someone sells the Serpentine Weiwei print they use the image I took when it was on display at the Serpentine Gallery. It's like the only picture of it that's in existence!
Every time someone sells the Serpentine Weiwei print they use the image I took when it was on display at the Serpentine Gallery. It's like the only picture of it that's in existence!
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johnnyh
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Please report this ebay listing..., by johnnyh on Jul 26, 2014 13:40:30 GMT 1, Every time someone sells the Serpentine Weiwei print they use the image I took when it was on display at the Serpentine Gallery. It's like the only picture of it that's in existence!
Can you send me a copy as may well flog one  .
Every time someone sells the Serpentine Weiwei print they use the image I took when it was on display at the Serpentine Gallery. It's like the only picture of it that's in existence! Can you send me a copy as may well flog one . |
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soam24
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Please report this ebay listing..., by soam24 on Jul 26, 2014 15:37:19 GMT 1, Sounds like you work for shep and want to pull auctions..
Sounds like you work for shep and want to pull auctions..
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Please report this ebay listing..., by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 15:46:07 GMT 1, Are there any left at Bottleneck? I'm tempted to go buy one and list it on ebay for cost to offset this bulls**t.
They need to find a better way to spread information of the online print release, then no one would even consider buying that.
Are there any left at Bottleneck? I'm tempted to go buy one and list it on ebay for cost to offset this bulls**t.
They need to find a better way to spread information of the online print release, then no one would even consider buying that.
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WOOF
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Please report this ebay listing..., by WOOF on Jul 26, 2014 16:41:56 GMT 1, Are there any left at Bottleneck? I'm tempted to go buy one and list it on ebay for cost to offset this bulls**t. They need to find a better way to spread information of the online print release, then no one would even consider buying that.
Are there any left at Bottleneck? I'm tempted to go buy one and list it on ebay for cost to offset this bulls**t. They need to find a better way to spread information of the online print release, then no one would even consider buying that. I'm headed down there today, I'll let you know... |
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WOOF
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Please report this ebay listing..., by WOOF on Jul 28, 2014 15:48:11 GMT 1, No en pointe's left, just the online drop allocation.
No en pointe's left, just the online drop allocation.
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