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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 22, 2014 15:23:14 GMT 1, I am going to chance my arm here,
As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books.
So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap?
Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer.
please pm me
I am going to chance my arm here,
As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books.
So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap?
Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer.
please pm me
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 15:48:43 GMT 1, What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library
What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library
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Books, Books, Books, by M on Aug 22, 2014 16:03:13 GMT 1, Check my WeTheVandals seed thread. There is a takeaway competition and the winner will get a book where the main subject is Ceramic Art
Check my WeTheVandals seed thread. There is a takeaway competition and the winner will get a book where the main subject is Ceramic Art
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 22, 2014 16:55:38 GMT 1, What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library Most things to be honest, unfortunately most of my knowledge is pretty typical and mainstream as that's all I have really come into contact with.
Photography- everything from Richard mosse, Rich Gilligan to Mario Testino.... Architecture- All the typical ones particularly Eileen Gray, Gerrit Reitveld, Saarinen, Aalto, lewerentz etc.. Design-(Industrial/graphic etc) -Sagmeister, Lustig, Dieter Rams, Michael Graves etc.. Art- Will give anything a shot...
What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library Most things to be honest, unfortunately most of my knowledge is pretty typical and mainstream as that's all I have really come into contact with. Photography- everything from Richard mosse, Rich Gilligan to Mario Testino.... Architecture- All the typical ones particularly Eileen Gray, Gerrit Reitveld, Saarinen, Aalto, lewerentz etc.. Design-(Industrial/graphic etc) -Sagmeister, Lustig, Dieter Rams, Michael Graves etc.. Art- Will give anything a shot...
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Books, Books, Books, by samfrost on Aug 22, 2014 17:04:15 GMT 1, In NYC, the New York Public Library is an AMAZING, FREE resource. I would check your local public library if you're looking for a book to read that you don't want to shell out money owning.
In NYC, the New York Public Library is an AMAZING, FREE resource. I would check your local public library if you're looking for a book to read that you don't want to shell out money owning.
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 22, 2014 18:04:09 GMT 1, Did, 2 Local libraries terrible!
Did, 2 Local libraries terrible!
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 22, 2014 18:10:36 GMT 1, What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library Most things to be honest, unfortunately most of my knowledge is pretty typical and mainstream as that's all I have really come into contact with. Photography- everything from Richard mosse, Rich Gilligan to Mario Testino.... Architecture- All the typical ones particularly Eileen Gray, Gerrit Reitveld, Saarinen, Aalto, lewerentz etc.. Design-(Industrial/graphic etc) -Sagmeister, Lustig, Dieter Rams, Michael Graves etc.. Art- Will give anything a shot... ok cool I'll see what I have
What are you into? I worked at a books store so I have a small library Most things to be honest, unfortunately most of my knowledge is pretty typical and mainstream as that's all I have really come into contact with. Photography- everything from Richard mosse, Rich Gilligan to Mario Testino.... Architecture- All the typical ones particularly Eileen Gray, Gerrit Reitveld, Saarinen, Aalto, lewerentz etc.. Design-(Industrial/graphic etc) -Sagmeister, Lustig, Dieter Rams, Michael Graves etc.. Art- Will give anything a shot... ok cool I'll see what I have
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 22, 2014 23:04:29 GMT 1, Thanx lads
Thanx lads
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Books, Books, Books, by Quinnster on Aug 23, 2014 7:20:55 GMT 1, I am going to chance my arm here, As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books.ย So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap? Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer. please pm me
Why not try Google if you have no funds?
I am going to chance my arm here, As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books.ย So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap? Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer. please pm me Why not try Google if you have no funds?
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 7:38:04 GMT 1, Go to a fucking library
Go to a fucking library
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 7:48:31 GMT 1, Dont you mean literary museum sadly going that way, rather have pages in my hand but id say in the near future books will be like cassette tapes.
Dont you mean literary museum sadly going that way, rather have pages in my hand but id say in the near future books will be like cassette tapes.
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 8:19:07 GMT 1, Stating the obvious...
... Also look at eBay and Amazon. There are libraries worth of art history books going for a song on there - a couple of dollars / pounds including shipping.
Stating the obvious...
... Also look at eBay and Amazon. There are libraries worth of art history books going for a song on there - a couple of dollars / pounds including shipping.
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Books, Books, Books, by met on Aug 23, 2014 10:10:07 GMT 1, I am going to chance my arm here, As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books. So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap? Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer. please pm me Just last month, you were also looking for a professional architect to review and give feedback on your CV and portfolio. Would it be correct to assume you were hoping that this highly-specialised service be kindly offered free of charge?
Anyway, I have a spare book available, though not on the subjects of photography, architecture, design or art. It's a philosophy book covering moral theory and ethics, called Pride, Dignity & Self-sufficiency. Now quite rare, from what I understand.
On my side, the place where I live is in pretty bad shape. I could use a helping hand giving the walls two coats of fresh paint. If you're happy to assist, perhaps a swap could be arranged โ a little effort and sacrifice on your part, in return for a new acquisition that may serve you well in the years to come.
I am going to chance my arm here, As I just finished college I have a chance to broaden my appreciation for art and architecture and gain a more multi-disciplinary knowledge of design, as such was hoping to get a few new/old books. So I was wondering, has anyone any books they don't want anymore? are willing to pass on for free or super super super cheap? Don't worry I am not seeking out anything priceless or worth a tonne! Don't worry I wont just vacuum up them all, will just take what I feel I will actually read, reference and use from what you offer. please pm me Just last month, you were also looking for a professional architect to review and give feedback on your CV and portfolio. Would it be correct to assume you were hoping that this highly-specialised service be kindly offered free of charge? Anyway, I have a spare book available, though not on the subjects of photography, architecture, design or art. It's a philosophy book covering moral theory and ethics, called Pride, Dignity & Self-sufficiency. Now quite rare, from what I understand. On my side, the place where I live is in pretty bad shape. I could use a helping hand giving the walls two coats of fresh paint. If you're happy to assist, perhaps a swap could be arranged โ a little effort and sacrifice on your part, in return for a new acquisition that may serve you well in the years to come.
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Momo
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 23, 2014 12:45:26 GMT 1, Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there.
@badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library.
I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously.
met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week!
Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry
Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there. @badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library. I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously. met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week! Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 13:22:28 GMT 1, Hi Momo. I don't know how public libraries operate where you are, but, here in Blighty they're obliged to source any book/publication/magazine that you request (within reason, I don't think you can get away with "Big Jugs" monthly!!). Might be worth a conversation with your local friendly public librarian... UmBongo
Hi Momo. I don't know how public libraries operate where you are, but, here in Blighty they're obliged to source any book/publication/magazine that you request (within reason, I don't think you can get away with "Big Jugs" monthly!!). Might be worth a conversation with your local friendly public librarian... UmBongo
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 24, 2014 14:23:59 GMT 1, Thanks @umbungo will look into it
Thanks @umbungo will look into it
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Books, Books, Books, by Deleted on Aug 25, 2014 15:31:11 GMT 1, We have a free book share up here... Might be worth starting one if you could get enough interest? it's a take a book/leave a book thing:
alloveralbany.com/archive/2014/08/12/the-little-free-libraries-of-troy
I could get you in touch with the person who started this one if you'd like
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Books, Books, Books, by met on Aug 26, 2014 9:26:47 GMT 1, Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there. @badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library. I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously. met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week!Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry If you believe your position and motivations are sound, then you should certainly not apologise.
Even if I or anyone else was offended, so what? I've said it before: Nobody has a right to not be offended. The risk of causing offence or upset shouldn't push a person to self-censor. That kind of compromise, arguably a betrayal of one's beliefs, is not a way to live life. Unless of course you're in the diplomatic services, or a salesperson, or in the early and precoital stage of a relationship, in which case it's all play-acting and calculated in any event.
Besides entertainment, for me this forum is about exchanging information and ideas. What I like best is hearing strong arguments that conflict with and challenge my existing views. These help to refine or qualify my opinions, and sometimes to change them entirely. It's the reason I make an effort to seek news about current events from a variety of sources.
Here's my stance, both specific and more generally:
What I saw in a couple of your posts was the possible emergence of a pattern โ messages where, if not the content, then at least the tone came across to my eyes as "Woe is me, I'm a poor student / ex-student, please help me out."
When combined, I found the posts irritating, partly because I see similar things becoming prevalent in broader society. This is the age of crowdfunding campaigns, private requests for assistance through social media, Gumtree or Craigslist, etc. And while all these have fantastic potential to realise what might not otherwise have been possible, I also feel they are sometimes initiated, not out of genuine need, but opportunistically and occasionally even with a sense of entitlement.
Now, finding clever new ways to beg does show certain traits I admire: resourcefulness and imagination. But it suggests the absence of something I also greatly appreciate: a spirit of independence and a proper DIY attitude.
There seems to be an increased willingness by many who are well-off (relatively speaking, and I'd class any art collector in this category) to ask, without hesitation, complete strangers for their time, energy, money or other assets. Effectively, it's a reliance on strangers for a free ride, which is very different to asking family members or friends for help.
In the absence of necessity, the phenomenon makes me uncomfortable, especially when nothing is offered by the favour-seeker in return. Leaving aside the quaint and perhaps antiquated notion of honour, I think this often abuses the generosity and charitable nature of people. It diminishes the resources they can allocate to others who are truly disadvantaged. In addition, it risks trivialising or relativising the plight of those affected by real poverty.
Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there. @badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library. I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously. met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week!Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry If you believe your position and motivations are sound, then you should certainly not apologise. Even if I or anyone else was offended, so what? I've said it before: Nobody has a right to not be offended. The risk of causing offence or upset shouldn't push a person to self-censor. That kind of compromise, arguably a betrayal of one's beliefs, is not a way to live life. Unless of course you're in the diplomatic services, or a salesperson, or in the early and precoital stage of a relationship, in which case it's all play-acting and calculated in any event. Besides entertainment, for me this forum is about exchanging information and ideas. What I like best is hearing strong arguments that conflict with and challenge my existing views. These help to refine or qualify my opinions, and sometimes to change them entirely. It's the reason I make an effort to seek news about current events from a variety of sources. Here's my stance, both specific and more generally: What I saw in a couple of your posts was the possible emergence of a pattern โ messages where, if not the content, then at least the tone came across to my eyes as "Woe is me, I'm a poor student / ex-student, please help me out." When combined, I found the posts irritating, partly because I see similar things becoming prevalent in broader society. This is the age of crowdfunding campaigns, private requests for assistance through social media, Gumtree or Craigslist, etc. And while all these have fantastic potential to realise what might not otherwise have been possible, I also feel they are sometimes initiated, not out of genuine need, but opportunistically and occasionally even with a sense of entitlement. Now, finding clever new ways to beg does show certain traits I admire: resourcefulness and imagination. But it suggests the absence of something I also greatly appreciate: a spirit of independence and a proper DIY attitude. There seems to be an increased willingness by many who are well-off (relatively speaking, and I'd class any art collector in this category) to ask, without hesitation, complete strangers for their time, energy, money or other assets. Effectively, it's a reliance on strangers for a free ride, which is very different to asking family members or friends for help. In the absence of necessity, the phenomenon makes me uncomfortable, especially when nothing is offered by the favour-seeker in return. Leaving aside the quaint and perhaps antiquated notion of honour, I think this often abuses the generosity and charitable nature of people. It diminishes the resources they can allocate to others who are truly disadvantaged. In addition, it risks trivialising or relativising the plight of those affected by real poverty.
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Books, Books, Books, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Aug 26, 2014 11:00:17 GMT 1, Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there. @badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library. I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously. met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week!Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry If you believe your position and motivations are sound, then you should certainly not apologise. Even if I or anyone else was offended, so what? I've said it before: Nobody has a right to not be offended. The risk of causing offence or upset shouldn't push a person to self-censor. That kind of compromise, arguably a betrayal of one's beliefs, is not a way to live life. Unless of course you're in the diplomatic services, or a salesperson, or in the early and precoital stage of a relationship, in which case it's all play-acting and calculated in any event. Besides entertainment, for me this forum is about exchanging information and ideas. What I like best is hearing strong arguments that conflict with and challenge my existing views. These help to refine or qualify my opinions, and sometimes to change them entirely. It's the reason I make an effort to seek news about current events from a variety of sources. Here's my stance, both specific and more generally: What I saw in a couple of your posts was the possible emergence of a pattern โ messages where, if not the content, then at least the tone came across to my eyes as "Woe is me, I'm a poor student / ex-student, please help me out."ย When combined, I found the posts irritating, partly because I see similar things becoming prevalent in broader society. This is the age of crowdfunding campaigns, private requests for assistance through social media, Gumtree or Craigslist, etc. And while all these have fantastic potential to realise what might not otherwise have been possible, I also feel they are sometimes initiated, not out of genuine need, but opportunistically and occasionally even with a sense of entitlement. Now, finding clever new ways to beg does show certain traits I admire: resourcefulness and imagination. But it suggests the absence of something I also greatly appreciate: a spirit of independence and a proper DIY attitude. There seems to be an increased willingness by many who are well-off (relatively speaking, and I'd class any art collector in this category) to ask, without hesitation, complete strangers for their time, energy, money or other assets. Effectively, it's a reliance on strangers for a free ride, which is very different to asking family members or friends for help. In the absence of necessity, the phenomenon makes me uncomfortable, especially when nothing is offered by the favour-seeker in return. Leaving aside the quaint and perhaps antiquated notion of honour, I think this often abuses the generosity and charitable nature of people. It diminishes the resources they can allocate to others who are truly disadvantaged. In addition, it risks trivialising or relativising the plight of those affected by real poverty. [br ^^^^phenomenal essay
Quinnster never used Google book for more than research will give it a shot thanks, I thought I could only read 10% of a book on there. @badrobot as I previously said, my local libraries are terrible for art and design books, have tried charity shops etc.. too. And alumni don't have access to college library. I obviously have tried amazon and get most of my books there, the hope I had though was that fellow forumites could inspire me to look at something or someone I had no awareness of previously. met I am extremely apologetic if I have offended or upset you in anyway either with this thread or any other comment.As for the former thread you referenced, again I apologise if it offended but I don't think my request was that OTT, its not like I asked for a planning permission or sketch design or hoped a graphic designer would design me a logo or design me a website, I simply asked for less than 5 minutes of somebody's time. Architects will get maybe I don't know 10 portfolios a week from a multitude of graduates and thus I thought they could quickly say to me, "good, bad, good, good, less college work more experience centric". I don't feel I asked too much and again if I did apologies, I dropped the thread after less than a week!Anyway, will put this thread out of its misery this evening, didn't realise so many would be upset, I only hoped to be referred to artists that I was already unaware of. I just guessed some on here would have large libraries and that some would have cheap books they no longer used or referenced.As I said previously I wasn't seeking out anything worth anything for nothing!! Cheers and sorry If you believe your position and motivations are sound, then you should certainly not apologise. Even if I or anyone else was offended, so what? I've said it before: Nobody has a right to not be offended. The risk of causing offence or upset shouldn't push a person to self-censor. That kind of compromise, arguably a betrayal of one's beliefs, is not a way to live life. Unless of course you're in the diplomatic services, or a salesperson, or in the early and precoital stage of a relationship, in which case it's all play-acting and calculated in any event. Besides entertainment, for me this forum is about exchanging information and ideas. What I like best is hearing strong arguments that conflict with and challenge my existing views. These help to refine or qualify my opinions, and sometimes to change them entirely. It's the reason I make an effort to seek news about current events from a variety of sources. Here's my stance, both specific and more generally: What I saw in a couple of your posts was the possible emergence of a pattern โ messages where, if not the content, then at least the tone came across to my eyes as "Woe is me, I'm a poor student / ex-student, please help me out."ย When combined, I found the posts irritating, partly because I see similar things becoming prevalent in broader society. This is the age of crowdfunding campaigns, private requests for assistance through social media, Gumtree or Craigslist, etc. And while all these have fantastic potential to realise what might not otherwise have been possible, I also feel they are sometimes initiated, not out of genuine need, but opportunistically and occasionally even with a sense of entitlement. Now, finding clever new ways to beg does show certain traits I admire: resourcefulness and imagination. But it suggests the absence of something I also greatly appreciate: a spirit of independence and a proper DIY attitude. There seems to be an increased willingness by many who are well-off (relatively speaking, and I'd class any art collector in this category) to ask, without hesitation, complete strangers for their time, energy, money or other assets. Effectively, it's a reliance on strangers for a free ride, which is very different to asking family members or friends for help. In the absence of necessity, the phenomenon makes me uncomfortable, especially when nothing is offered by the favour-seeker in return. Leaving aside the quaint and perhaps antiquated notion of honour, I think this often abuses the generosity and charitable nature of people. It diminishes the resources they can allocate to others who are truly disadvantaged. In addition, it risks trivialising or relativising the plight of those affected by real poverty. [br ^^^^phenomenal essay
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Books, Books, Books, by Momo on Aug 26, 2014 13:07:29 GMT 1, I really think your trying to get a rise out of me, and use myself to make a social commentary based on 2 threads, this and another (which I already feel I explained) from over 20 threads. I have already apologized to you and this has apparently upset you further.
Your thesis is well thought out and explained and I don't disagree with it as a social commentary but believe your use of me as an example is a tad harsh. How could it not be, you don't know me from Adam and are forming an opinion from a couple of posts.
As for my situation you have no idea of my financial or family situation. I again admit that art collecting is not a poor mans hobby and to be honest I really shouldn't be involved at this stage of my life but so be it. I don't feel I have requested or asked for anything below cost nor do I believe I asked for any service beyond reason RE my previous explanation of the architecture thread.
Furthermore I don't believe I have prevented anybody from truely utilizing their resources to give to the truely impoverished.
Chill dude, I am not going to further discuss your point, am not pissed or upset beyond the fact that I believe your opinion of me is a little off but sure you don't know me. I believe there is merit in your commentary and apologize again for any offence caused to anybody, it was never my intention.
I really think your trying to get a rise out of me, and use myself to make a social commentary based on 2 threads, this and another (which I already feel I explained) from over 20 threads. I have already apologized to you and this has apparently upset you further.
Your thesis is well thought out and explained and I don't disagree with it as a social commentary but believe your use of me as an example is a tad harsh. How could it not be, you don't know me from Adam and are forming an opinion from a couple of posts.
As for my situation you have no idea of my financial or family situation. I again admit that art collecting is not a poor mans hobby and to be honest I really shouldn't be involved at this stage of my life but so be it. I don't feel I have requested or asked for anything below cost nor do I believe I asked for any service beyond reason RE my previous explanation of the architecture thread.
Furthermore I don't believe I have prevented anybody from truely utilizing their resources to give to the truely impoverished.
Chill dude, I am not going to further discuss your point, am not pissed or upset beyond the fact that I believe your opinion of me is a little off but sure you don't know me. I believe there is merit in your commentary and apologize again for any offence caused to anybody, it was never my intention.
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Books, Books, Books, by met on Aug 26, 2014 20:58:01 GMT 1, I really think your trying to get a rise out of me, and use myself to make a social commentary based on 2 threads, this and another (which I already feel I explained) from over 20 threads. I have already apologized to you and this has apparently upset you further. Your thesis is well thought out and explained and I don't disagree with it as a social commentary but believe your use of me as an example is a tad harsh. How could it not be, you don't know me from Adam and are forming an opinion from a couple of posts. As for my situation you have no idea of my financial or family situation. I again admit that art collecting is not a poor mans hobby and to be honest I really shouldn't be involved at this stage of my life but so be it. I don't feel I have requested or asked for anything below cost nor do I believe I asked for any service beyond reason RE my previous explanation of the architecture thread. Furthermore I don't believe I have prevented anybody from truely utilizing their resources to give to the truely impoverished. Chill dude, I am not going to further discuss your point, am not pissed or upset beyond the fact that I believe your opinion of me is a little off but sure you don't know me. I believe there is merit in your commentary and apologize again for any offence caused to anybody, it was never my intention. As mentioned, I don't believe there's any need for you to apologise. For the avoidance of doubt, there was also no further irritation on my part.
The second post I wrote on this thread wasn't to get a rise from you. I had appreciated and understood your response, so my follow-up was intended as more of a courtesy explanation. It seemed worthwhile making an effort to clarify where I was coming from in my initial sarcastic post.
You're absolutely right that I don't know you from Adam. I wasn't trying to suggest I do. As you say, comments made by me were simply based on a couple of your posts. I wouldn't assume those posts offer anything more than a very incomplete picture of who you are, and probably even a distorted one.
Occasionally, I'm prompted out of my shell of indifference, to engage. Or perhaps just to poke and prod a little, sometimes with attempts at humour. This was one of those occasions, as your combined requests had brought to my mind a wider subject of interest to me.
What I had noticed in a couple of your posts was a possible pattern. For me they appeared symptomatic, a minor illustration or example of the much broader, larger issue I referred to. I was not pinning responsibility for that larger issue onto your shoulders, or holding you accountable for any cumulative detrimental effect on resources otherwise available to those in need. This would be unfair. And if it was inferred by anyone, then I expressed myself poorly.
I really think your trying to get a rise out of me, and use myself to make a social commentary based on 2 threads, this and another (which I already feel I explained) from over 20 threads. I have already apologized to you and this has apparently upset you further. Your thesis is well thought out and explained and I don't disagree with it as a social commentary but believe your use of me as an example is a tad harsh. How could it not be, you don't know me from Adam and are forming an opinion from a couple of posts. As for my situation you have no idea of my financial or family situation. I again admit that art collecting is not a poor mans hobby and to be honest I really shouldn't be involved at this stage of my life but so be it. I don't feel I have requested or asked for anything below cost nor do I believe I asked for any service beyond reason RE my previous explanation of the architecture thread. Furthermore I don't believe I have prevented anybody from truely utilizing their resources to give to the truely impoverished. Chill dude, I am not going to further discuss your point, am not pissed or upset beyond the fact that I believe your opinion of me is a little off but sure you don't know me. I believe there is merit in your commentary and apologize again for any offence caused to anybody, it was never my intention. As mentioned, I don't believe there's any need for you to apologise. For the avoidance of doubt, there was also no further irritation on my part. The second post I wrote on this thread wasn't to get a rise from you. I had appreciated and understood your response, so my follow-up was intended as more of a courtesy explanation. It seemed worthwhile making an effort to clarify where I was coming from in my initial sarcastic post. You're absolutely right that I don't know you from Adam. I wasn't trying to suggest I do. As you say, comments made by me were simply based on a couple of your posts. I wouldn't assume those posts offer anything more than a very incomplete picture of who you are, and probably even a distorted one. Occasionally, I'm prompted out of my shell of indifference, to engage. Or perhaps just to poke and prod a little, sometimes with attempts at humour. This was one of those occasions, as your combined requests had brought to my mind a wider subject of interest to me. What I had noticed in a couple of your posts was a possible pattern. For me they appeared symptomatic, a minor illustration or example of the much broader, larger issue I referred to. I was not pinning responsibility for that larger issue onto your shoulders, or holding you accountable for any cumulative detrimental effect on resources otherwise available to those in need. This would be unfair. And if it was inferred by anyone, then I expressed myself poorly.
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