sgolby
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A framer once told me...., by sgolby on Nov 3, 2014 0:06:45 GMT 1, Hey guys, something just came to mind amd i thought this could be a good place to bring up things we are told by framer's that we may or may not believe to be true... To start...
A framer of mine once told me that he didn't like to use aluminium frames because somehow it didn't keep moisture out as well as wood? Anyone know if this is true?
Hey guys, something just came to mind amd i thought this could be a good place to bring up things we are told by framer's that we may or may not believe to be true... To start...
A framer of mine once told me that he didn't like to use aluminium frames because somehow it didn't keep moisture out as well as wood? Anyone know if this is true?
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.dappy
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A framer once told me...., by .dappy on Nov 3, 2014 0:26:46 GMT 1,
... tosh ...
the only difference it could make is that metal will have a different 'moisture' temp that may allow water to condense on it because it is 'colder' compared to the room temperature (materials science), but this will also depend on the dew point of the environment/room - however moisture will not go through metal, but may go through wood depending on how well it has been primed/painted/glossed.
you need to seal the piece/mount with the frame to stop dust etc but you would not want to completely seal it, with rubber/silicone.
... tosh ...
the only difference it could make is that metal will have a different 'moisture' temp that may allow water to condense on it because it is 'colder' compared to the room temperature (materials science), but this will also depend on the dew point of the environment/room - however moisture will not go through metal, but may go through wood depending on how well it has been primed/painted/glossed.
you need to seal the piece/mount with the frame to stop dust etc but you would not want to completely seal it, with rubber/silicone.
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A framer once told me...., by johnnyh on Nov 3, 2014 0:29:44 GMT 1, I would imagine there is an element of truth in that no idea of the extent of the truth though wood technically absorbs moisture where as aliminium does not.
Like wise aliminium is a good absorber of heat which can cause condensation with a rapid fluctuation of temperatures. Eg people who used to / do have aliminium window frames usually have this problem.
Obviously to a lesser extent one would assume it can happen to frames as well depending on their location and the variation of temperatures they encounter
Framer once told me he would do me a really good deal???
I would imagine there is an element of truth in that no idea of the extent of the truth though wood technically absorbs moisture where as aliminium does not.
Like wise aliminium is a good absorber of heat which can cause condensation with a rapid fluctuation of temperatures. Eg people who used to / do have aliminium window frames usually have this problem.
Obviously to a lesser extent one would assume it can happen to frames as well depending on their location and the variation of temperatures they encounter
Framer once told me he would do me a really good deal???
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A framer once told me...., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 0:32:09 GMT 1, wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare?
wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare?
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sgolby
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A framer once told me...., by sgolby on Nov 3, 2014 0:41:45 GMT 1, wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare?
wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare? Yeah, actually i did... Do you know? |
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A framer once told me...., by .dappy on Nov 3, 2014 0:45:06 GMT 1,
... tosh ... while being one of the most abundant elements in its 'raw' form on earth, to make it into the metal we know uses a lot of electricity. It is estimated that 5% of all of the electricity used in the US is for the production of aluminium. It has also really only being extensively used since the 20th century.
... tosh ... while being one of the most abundant elements in its 'raw' form on earth, to make it into the metal we know uses a lot of electricity. It is estimated that 5% of all of the electricity used in the US is for the production of aluminium. It has also really only being extensively used since the 20th century.
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A framer once told me...., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 0:47:40 GMT 1, ...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it.
lol.
...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it.
lol.
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A framer once told me...., by .dappy on Nov 3, 2014 0:48:29 GMT 1,
not painting the back of wood frame 1) saves on paint! 2) no one sees it!! and 3) would allow any moisture that is or gets into the wood to escape
... that is why you should not paint the bricks on your house as it stops the moisture from escaping your brick cavity wall and can cause internal damp
not painting the back of wood frame 1) saves on paint! 2) no one sees it!! and 3) would allow any moisture that is or gets into the wood to escape
... that is why you should not paint the bricks on your house as it stops the moisture from escaping your brick cavity wall and can cause internal damp
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sgolby
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A framer once told me...., by sgolby on Nov 3, 2014 0:53:10 GMT 1, ...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol.
...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol. Alumineeum!! |
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A framer once told me...., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 0:54:00 GMT 1, wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare? Yeah, actually i did... Do you know? No, I never wondered till I read this thread.
I assumed it was because seasoned wood only absorbs a small amount of moisture in a normal house.
wood is better , ever wondered why the back of antique frames were left bare? Yeah, actually i did... Do you know? No, I never wondered till I read this thread.
I assumed it was because seasoned wood only absorbs a small amount of moisture in a normal house.
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A framer once told me...., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 0:58:25 GMT 1, ... tosh ... while being one of the most abundant elements in its 'raw' form on earth, to make it into the metal we know uses a lot of electricity. It is estimated that 5% of all of the electricity used in the US is for the production of aluminium. It has also really only being extensively used since the 20th century. and flouride is a by product of the aluminium industry and a way of making money from the waste by product.
Plus aluminium powder and aluminium oxides are used in other products including sunscreen.
... tosh ... while being one of the most abundant elements in its 'raw' form on earth, to make it into the metal we know uses a lot of electricity. It is estimated that 5% of all of the electricity used in the US is for the production of aluminium. It has also really only being extensively used since the 20th century. and flouride is a by product of the aluminium industry and a way of making money from the waste by product.
Plus aluminium powder and aluminium oxides are used in other products including sunscreen.
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A framer once told me...., by .dappy on Nov 3, 2014 1:03:47 GMT 1,
... and aluminium is almost 100% recyclable and only takes about 1/8 of the energy used in the original process to recover the aluminium the second time around. enough of the science lessons ... 
... and aluminium is almost 100% recyclable and only takes about 1/8 of the energy used in the original process to recover the aluminium the second time around. enough of the science lessons ... |
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A framer once told me...., by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Nov 3, 2014 3:46:15 GMT 1, ...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol. Alumineeum!!
...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol. Alumineeum!! I heard an Aussie say Aloominum in a meeting the other day? everyone was like WTF? The UK/AUS is increasingly becoming like America in the way we speak or am i just an old 'Douche Bag' (that word should be banned from this forum also!!).. |
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A framer once told me...., by Deleted on Nov 3, 2014 4:16:22 GMT 1, ...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol. Alumineeum!!
LOL, exactly. As far as I know the spelling is aluminum, so where do the Brits get that extra syllable?
Edit: I just googled it, long story.... lol so now it makes more sense why the US has different pronunciation, we adopted the original spelling and the rest of the world kept the "ium" ending.
...and our American friends still cannot pronounce it. lol. Alumineeum!! LOL, exactly. As far as I know the spelling is aluminum, so where do the Brits get that extra syllable? Edit: I just googled it, long story.... lol so now it makes more sense why the US has different pronunciation, we adopted the original spelling and the rest of the world kept the "ium" ending. |
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