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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Black Apple Art on Dec 16, 2015 11:19:30 GMT 1, Not much I hate more than people trying to take advantage of buyers so felt the need to post this.
I have had several people including members contact me in the past few weeks that were offered various versions of Rude Copper prints and other Banksys that just didn't seem right. Most of the cases involved unrealistically low pricing and when pictures and COAs were requested some were questionable or just obviously not legitimate. When the buyers then questioned the issues I saw the sellers eventually vanished. In one recent case a gallery was telling a customer the red stamp on the print was a "signature" and thus made it a signed print. I encourage buyers to always request pictures of the print, COA and equally if not more importantly, make sure the seller / gallery has verifiable references. These sellers seem to be preying on inexperienced buyers so I encourage anyone who has even the slightest doubt about a print or transaction to contact a veteran form member / gallery or post your suspicion here with pictures. Better safe than sorry and there are great knowledgeable people here that would be more than happy to help.
Not much I hate more than people trying to take advantage of buyers so felt the need to post this.
I have had several people including members contact me in the past few weeks that were offered various versions of Rude Copper prints and other Banksys that just didn't seem right. Most of the cases involved unrealistically low pricing and when pictures and COAs were requested some were questionable or just obviously not legitimate. When the buyers then questioned the issues I saw the sellers eventually vanished. In one recent case a gallery was telling a customer the red stamp on the print was a "signature" and thus made it a signed print. I encourage buyers to always request pictures of the print, COA and equally if not more importantly, make sure the seller / gallery has verifiable references. These sellers seem to be preying on inexperienced buyers so I encourage anyone who has even the slightest doubt about a print or transaction to contact a veteran form member / gallery or post your suspicion here with pictures. Better safe than sorry and there are great knowledgeable people here that would be more than happy to help.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 11:27:35 GMT 1, Yes, beware out there, it's a jungle.
Not all galleries know what they are on about when it comes to Banksy so tread carefully.
Yes, beware out there, it's a jungle.
Not all galleries know what they are on about when it comes to Banksy so tread carefully.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by cyberkid on Dec 16, 2015 11:30:19 GMT 1, thanks, eric !
thanks, eric !
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Dungle on Dec 16, 2015 11:59:31 GMT 1, Agreed. There is a wealth of information and help available from a huge number of forum members.
Agreed. There is a wealth of information and help available from a huge number of forum members.
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Hubble Bubble
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Hubble Bubble on Dec 16, 2015 12:44:40 GMT 1, Free Lunch?
No such thing.
All you need to know.
Free Lunch?
No such thing.
All you need to know.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by pingoo on Dec 16, 2015 12:56:20 GMT 1, Quick question tho : provide a qualified opinion is part of a professional advisory service. Is there a charge for an evaluation like this ?
Quick question tho : provide a qualified opinion is part of a professional advisory service. Is there a charge for an evaluation like this ?
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by burgerman on Dec 16, 2015 13:19:05 GMT 1, haven`t some in the past been selling framed rude coppers by the WCP always shows to take it out of the frame and inspect it. Whats stopping someone from selling a real coa with a fake print.
haven`t some in the past been selling framed rude coppers by the WCP always shows to take it out of the frame and inspect it. Whats stopping someone from selling a real coa with a fake print.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by met on Dec 16, 2015 18:56:22 GMT 1, Free Lunch? No such thing. All you need to know. The difficulty is that what constitutes a free lunch can take months or years to figure out. It requires specialised knowledge, experience (or at least an awareness of all the potential risks), and a commitment to staying on top of the latest pricing.
Even if someone is sensible and does their research, the oftentimes significant disparity in asking prices for editioned work may be due to a variety of factors:
- The higher prices don't necessarily reflect the market. It may simply be a few dealers colluding โ to take advantage of gullible buyers, who'll do Google searches and then assume ยฃ[x] is the going rate for a limited edition print because that's the price listed on two or three websites.
- In a similar manner, prices at the lower end of the scale shouldn't immediately be equated with "dodgy". They might reflect the condition of the work, they might be good deals, or they might just be fair prices, e.g. in line with recent auction results.
Appreciating the differences between the above scenarios isn't something that comes naturally to everybody. It usually has to be learned.
In my own case, years were needed before the obvious became obvious.
Free Lunch? No such thing. All you need to know. The difficulty is that what constitutes a free lunch can take months or years to figure out. It requires specialised knowledge, experience (or at least an awareness of all the potential risks), and a commitment to staying on top of the latest pricing. Even if someone is sensible and does their research, the oftentimes significant disparity in asking prices for editioned work may be due to a variety of factors: - The higher prices don't necessarily reflect the market. It may simply be a few dealers colluding โ to take advantage of gullible buyers, who'll do Google searches and then assume ยฃ[x] is the going rate for a limited edition print because that's the price listed on two or three websites. - In a similar manner, prices at the lower end of the scale shouldn't immediately be equated with "dodgy". They might reflect the condition of the work, they might be good deals, or they might just be fair prices, e.g. in line with recent auction results. Appreciating the differences between the above scenarios isn't something that comes naturally to everybody. It usually has to be learned. In my own case, years were needed before the obvious became obvious.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Hubble Bubble on Dec 16, 2015 19:06:27 GMT 1, Free Lunch? No such thing. All you need to know. The difficulty is that what constitutes a free lunch can take months or years to figure out. It requires specialised knowledge, experience (or at least an awareness of all the potential risks), and a commitment to staying on top of the latest pricing. Even if someone is sensible and does their research, the oftentimes significant disparity in asking prices for editioned work may be due to a variety of factors: - The higher prices don't necessarily reflect the market. It may simply be a few dealers colluding โ to take advantage of gullible buyers, who'll do Google searches and then assume ยฃ[x] is the going rate for a limited edition print because that's the price listed on two or three websites. - In a similar manner, prices at the lower end of the scale shouldn't immediately be equated with "dodgy". They might reflect the condition of the work, they might be good deals, or they might just be fair prices, e.g. in line with recent auction results. Appreciating the differences between the above scenarios isn't something that comes naturally to everybody. It usually has to be learned. In my own case, years were needed before the obvious became obvious. Fair points taken on board.
I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim.
I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking.
Free Lunch? No such thing. All you need to know. The difficulty is that what constitutes a free lunch can take months or years to figure out. It requires specialised knowledge, experience (or at least an awareness of all the potential risks), and a commitment to staying on top of the latest pricing. Even if someone is sensible and does their research, the oftentimes significant disparity in asking prices for editioned work may be due to a variety of factors: - The higher prices don't necessarily reflect the market. It may simply be a few dealers colluding โ to take advantage of gullible buyers, who'll do Google searches and then assume ยฃ[x] is the going rate for a limited edition print because that's the price listed on two or three websites. - In a similar manner, prices at the lower end of the scale shouldn't immediately be equated with "dodgy". They might reflect the condition of the work, they might be good deals, or they might just be fair prices, e.g. in line with recent auction results. Appreciating the differences between the above scenarios isn't something that comes naturally to everybody. It usually has to be learned. In my own case, years were needed before the obvious became obvious. Fair points taken on board. I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim. I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by met on Dec 18, 2015 10:47:00 GMT 1, Fair points taken on board. I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim. I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking. Greed combined with wishful thinking can certainly result in reasonably informed people becoming reckless. Nevertheless, my impression is that ignorance plays a larger role and is the primary factor in most of these scam attempts (this would be in line with the comment by Black Apple Art about sellers seeming "to be preying on inexperienced buyers").
Our slight differences in perception is interesting. A possible explanation is that it's easy to forget how specific our knowledge is.
Members who access this forum regularly are, over time, bombarded repeatedly with generally consistent information, advice and warnings. We read the same things so often in a bubble-like environment that it can feel as if we were always and instinctively aware of them. It may get to the point where we even start assuming other people just know or should know what we ourselves took years to learn, simply because it now seems so self-evident to us.
One example of apparent self-evidence is the need for Banksy artwork to be accompanied by a COA from Pest Control. For longer-term forum members, that's viewed as really the most basic precautionary measure, because it's been drummed into our heads for almost eight years. We also know what the certificate should look like, and many here know what it should feel like. However, I'd argue that the requirement of a COA isn't necessarily obvious to an enthusiast who has only recently started collecting Banksy's art โ especially if they're (i) completely unaware of the existence of this forum, (ii) a non-visitor, or (iii) a new or infrequent visitor.
By way of analogy, despite loving architecture, in my absentmindedness or ignorance I occasionally mix up the names of "starchitects" like Norman Foster and Richard Rogers. This is akin to confusing a Faile for a Swoon. It's like mistaking an Irving Penn photo for a Richard Avedon. Or a Hans Wegner chair for an Arne Jacobsen. The error is so extreme, so obscene, at least for those in the scene, that it could easily provoke open ridicule from the latter.
But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer.
When someone begins taking an interest in street art, there's a lot to absorb โ and it can be overwhelming at first. As with any other specialised field, it takes effort and time before pieces of the jigsaw start falling into place and making sense.
Knowledgeable Banksy fans must therefore keep in mind that they are in a position of advantage. The majority of fans (both on the forum and elsewhere) are still at the base of this very niche learning curve.
Fair points taken on board. I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim. I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking. Greed combined with wishful thinking can certainly result in reasonably informed people becoming reckless. Nevertheless, my impression is that ignorance plays a larger role and is the primary factor in most of these scam attempts (this would be in line with the comment by Black Apple Art about sellers seeming "to be preying on inexperienced buyers"). Our slight differences in perception is interesting. A possible explanation is that it's easy to forget how specific our knowledge is. Members who access this forum regularly are, over time, bombarded repeatedly with generally consistent information, advice and warnings. We read the same things so often in a bubble-like environment that it can feel as if we were always and instinctively aware of them. It may get to the point where we even start assuming other people just know or should know what we ourselves took years to learn, simply because it now seems so self-evident to us. One example of apparent self-evidence is the need for Banksy artwork to be accompanied by a COA from Pest Control. For longer-term forum members, that's viewed as really the most basic precautionary measure, because it's been drummed into our heads for almost eight years. We also know what the certificate should look like, and many here know what it should feel like. However, I'd argue that the requirement of a COA isn't necessarily obvious to an enthusiast who has only recently started collecting Banksy's art โ especially if they're (i) completely unaware of the existence of this forum, (ii) a non-visitor, or (iii) a new or infrequent visitor. By way of analogy, despite loving architecture, in my absentmindedness or ignorance I occasionally mix up the names of "starchitects" like Norman Foster and Richard Rogers. This is akin to confusing a Faile for a Swoon. It's like mistaking an Irving Penn photo for a Richard Avedon. Or a Hans Wegner chair for an Arne Jacobsen. The error is so extreme, so obscene, at least for those in the scene, that it could easily provoke open ridicule from the latter. But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer. When someone begins taking an interest in street art, there's a lot to absorb โ and it can be overwhelming at first. As with any other specialised field, it takes effort and time before pieces of the jigsaw start falling into place and making sense. Knowledgeable Banksy fans must therefore keep in mind that they are in a position of advantage. The majority of fans (both on the forum and elsewhere) are still at the base of this very niche learning curve.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by settingson on Dec 18, 2015 11:33:58 GMT 1, Fair points taken on board. I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim. I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking. Greed combined with wishful thinking can certainly result in reasonably informed people becoming reckless. Nevertheless, my impression is that ignorance plays a larger role and is the primary factor in most of these scam attempts (this would be in line with the comment by Black Apple Art about sellers seeming "to be preying on inexperienced buyers"). Our slight differences in perception is interesting. A possible explanation is that it's easy to forget how specific our knowledge is. Members who access this forum regularly are, over time, bombarded repeatedly with generally consistent information, advice and warnings. We read the same things so often in a bubble-like environment that it can feel as if we were always and instinctively aware of them. It may get to the point where we even start assuming other people just know or should know what we ourselves took years to learn, simply because it now seems so self-evident to us. One example of apparent self-evidence is the need for Banksy artwork to be accompanied by a COA from Pest Control. For longer-term forum members, that's viewed as really the most basic precautionary measure, because it's been drummed into our heads for almost eight years. We also know what the certificate should look like, and many here know what it should feel like. However, I'd argue that the requirement of a COA isn't necessarily obvious to an enthusiast who has only recently started collecting Banksy's art โ especially if they're (i) completely unaware of the existence of this forum, (ii) a non-visitor, or (iii) a new or infrequent visitor. By way of analogy, despite loving architecture, in my absentmindedness or ignorance I occasionally mix up the names of "starchitects" like Norman Foster and Richard Rogers. This is akin to confusing a Faile for a Swoon. It's like mistaking an Irving Penn photo for a Richard Avedon. Or a Hans Wegner chair for an Arne Jacobsen. The error is so extreme, so obscene, at least for those in the scene, that it could easily provoke open ridicule from the latter. But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer. When someone begins taking an interest in street art, there's a lot to absorb โ and it can be overwhelming at first. As with any other specialised field, it takes effort and time before pieces of the jigsaw start falling into place and making sense. Knowledgeable Banksy fans must therefore keep in mind that they are in a position of advantage. The majority of fans (both on the forum and elsewhere) are still at the base of this very niche learning curve. That's one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum. Sensible, well constructed with valid points expressed in a great tone!
Fair points taken on board. I do think though that a lot of people have this knowledge and choose not to apply it, only to find themselves on the end of a scam. In this case, it's greed that has driven them there, not ignorance. But it's ignorance they claim. I do take your point though, met, and my thoughts are that the forum is the best resource for long term learning or short term checking. Greed combined with wishful thinking can certainly result in reasonably informed people becoming reckless. Nevertheless, my impression is that ignorance plays a larger role and is the primary factor in most of these scam attempts (this would be in line with the comment by Black Apple Art about sellers seeming "to be preying on inexperienced buyers"). Our slight differences in perception is interesting. A possible explanation is that it's easy to forget how specific our knowledge is. Members who access this forum regularly are, over time, bombarded repeatedly with generally consistent information, advice and warnings. We read the same things so often in a bubble-like environment that it can feel as if we were always and instinctively aware of them. It may get to the point where we even start assuming other people just know or should know what we ourselves took years to learn, simply because it now seems so self-evident to us. One example of apparent self-evidence is the need for Banksy artwork to be accompanied by a COA from Pest Control. For longer-term forum members, that's viewed as really the most basic precautionary measure, because it's been drummed into our heads for almost eight years. We also know what the certificate should look like, and many here know what it should feel like. However, I'd argue that the requirement of a COA isn't necessarily obvious to an enthusiast who has only recently started collecting Banksy's art โ especially if they're (i) completely unaware of the existence of this forum, (ii) a non-visitor, or (iii) a new or infrequent visitor. By way of analogy, despite loving architecture, in my absentmindedness or ignorance I occasionally mix up the names of "starchitects" like Norman Foster and Richard Rogers. This is akin to confusing a Faile for a Swoon. It's like mistaking an Irving Penn photo for a Richard Avedon. Or a Hans Wegner chair for an Arne Jacobsen. The error is so extreme, so obscene, at least for those in the scene, that it could easily provoke open ridicule from the latter. But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer. When someone begins taking an interest in street art, there's a lot to absorb โ and it can be overwhelming at first. As with any other specialised field, it takes effort and time before pieces of the jigsaw start falling into place and making sense. Knowledgeable Banksy fans must therefore keep in mind that they are in a position of advantage. The majority of fans (both on the forum and elsewhere) are still at the base of this very niche learning curve. That's one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum. Sensible, well constructed with valid points expressed in a great tone!
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Hubble Bubble on Dec 18, 2015 12:15:14 GMT 1, Agree
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by met on Dec 18, 2015 13:25:47 GMT 1, [...] But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer. [...] That's one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum. Sensible, well constructed with valid points expressed in a great tone! Very kind of you.
I sometimes need to remind myself to be patient with people. To a layman, different stencil styles can look very similar. So I do understand when somebody confuses a Bambi for a Banksy.
Tomorrow, I could accidentally smack my head against a door and suddenly take a liking to Marc Chagall. I might be enthusiastic, visit his paintings in museums, buy books and do research. This might continue for months before I build up the confidence to add a print to my collection.
But if I later discovered some Chagall forum online, no doubt it would still take me ages to understand the inside jokes, esoteric references, new terminology, and abbreviations or nicknames used for pieces, dealers and whatnot. It may also take ages to work out the practical knowledge needed specifically for collecting Chagall's art.
Imagine the possible scorn I'd receive from seasoned veterans on a Chagall forum. Hypothetical examples:
- "You bought a print from [Dealer A]? Are you mad? Why on earth did you buy from them? You should have gone to [Dealer B] or [Dealer C]! Everybody and their dog knows that."
- "The print comes with a COA from [Entity 1]?! Hahaha! How stupid are you? You can only ever rely on COAs from [Entity 2]! When will people ever learn?!"
- "You paid ยฃ[x]? Then of course it'll be a fake! No gallery or private seller in their right mind would sell a genuine print from that edition for less than ยฃ[x] + 30%."
Etc.
This type of scenario is worth considering when communicating with those who may be less knowledgeable or less experienced in a given subject.
If you already know something, it's easy. If you don't, it's not.
[...] But what's blindingly obvious to a trained eye, or elementary to a person fully immersed in a culture, won't be so clear to a newcomer. [...] That's one of the best posts I have ever read on this forum. Sensible, well constructed with valid points expressed in a great tone! Very kind of you. I sometimes need to remind myself to be patient with people. To a layman, different stencil styles can look very similar. So I do understand when somebody confuses a Bambi for a Banksy. Tomorrow, I could accidentally smack my head against a door and suddenly take a liking to Marc Chagall. I might be enthusiastic, visit his paintings in museums, buy books and do research. This might continue for months before I build up the confidence to add a print to my collection. But if I later discovered some Chagall forum online, no doubt it would still take me ages to understand the inside jokes, esoteric references, new terminology, and abbreviations or nicknames used for pieces, dealers and whatnot. It may also take ages to work out the practical knowledge needed specifically for collecting Chagall's art. Imagine the possible scorn I'd receive from seasoned veterans on a Chagall forum. Hypothetical examples: - "You bought a print from [Dealer A]? Are you mad? Why on earth did you buy from them? You should have gone to [Dealer B] or [Dealer C]! Everybody and their dog knows that." - "The print comes with a COA from [Entity 1]?! Hahaha! How stupid are you? You can only ever rely on COAs from [Entity 2]! When will people ever learn?!"- "You paid ยฃ[x]? Then of course it'll be a fake! No gallery or private seller in their right mind would sell a genuine print from that edition for less than ยฃ[x] + 30%."Etc. This type of scenario is worth considering when communicating with those who may be less knowledgeable or less experienced in a given subject. If you already know something, it's easy. If you don't, it's not.
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by met on Dec 18, 2015 13:45:15 GMT 1, Not much I hate more than people trying to take advantage of buyers so felt the need to post this. I have had several people including members contact me in the past few weeks that were offered various versions of Rude Copper prints and other Banksys that just didn't seem right. Most of the cases involved unrealistically low pricing and when pictures and COAs were requested some were questionable or just obviously not legitimate. When the buyers then questioned the issues I saw the sellers eventually vanished. In one recent case a gallery was telling a customer the red stamp on the print was a "signature" and thus made it a signed print. I encourage buyers to always request pictures of the print, COA and equally if not more importantly, make sure the seller / gallery has verifiable references. These sellers seem to be preying on inexperienced buyers so I encourage anyone who has even the slightest doubt about a print or transaction to contact a veteran form member / gallery or post your suspicion here with pictures. Better safe than sorry and there are great knowledgeable people here that would be more than happy to help. Which gallery was this?
Not much I hate more than people trying to take advantage of buyers so felt the need to post this. I have had several people including members contact me in the past few weeks that were offered various versions of Rude Copper prints and other Banksys that just didn't seem right. Most of the cases involved unrealistically low pricing and when pictures and COAs were requested some were questionable or just obviously not legitimate. When the buyers then questioned the issues I saw the sellers eventually vanished. In one recent case a gallery was telling a customer the red stamp on the print was a "signature" and thus made it a signed print. I encourage buyers to always request pictures of the print, COA and equally if not more importantly, make sure the seller / gallery has verifiable references. These sellers seem to be preying on inexperienced buyers so I encourage anyone who has even the slightest doubt about a print or transaction to contact a veteran form member / gallery or post your suspicion here with pictures. Better safe than sorry and there are great knowledgeable people here that would be more than happy to help. Which gallery was this?
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by Happy Shopper on Dec 18, 2015 14:00:13 GMT 1, In a similar way I recently witnessed a guy who runs a pop up "Urban Art" gallery in Soho speaking to a client about a Banksy street work (Kissing Coppers from Brighton), and telling him that it was almost certainly real, and he could apply for a COA for it. (The client was just asking for advice on something he'd been offered elsewhere).
I didn't want to step on his toes, so kept out of it, but I'm afraid even galleries don't know what they're talking about sometimes!
In a similar way I recently witnessed a guy who runs a pop up "Urban Art" gallery in Soho speaking to a client about a Banksy street work (Kissing Coppers from Brighton), and telling him that it was almost certainly real, and he could apply for a COA for it. (The client was just asking for advice on something he'd been offered elsewhere).
I didn't want to step on his toes, so kept out of it, but I'm afraid even galleries don't know what they're talking about sometimes!
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Beware of low priced Banksys for sale. , by settingson on Dec 18, 2015 14:30:33 GMT 1, I've been on here nearly 18 months now and I think I'm just about getting there in terms of being able to contribute to some discussions on artists who I have followed more closely but on others I would still be at a complete loss on and have no idea about despite them apparently sometimes being world famous! I do love this forum though because with time and effort there is a vast amount of knowledge and good advice tucked away in these threads which I frequently research when someone posts up something I like that I have never seen before. Mind you it usually ends up costing me money with something new to the collection! lol
I do not have a Banksy and although I understand better what to look for now I would not spend such a sum without doing further homework first and taking the advice of someone who knows more than me. I think it's different to research online and then actually buy in person. 'It should have a COA' people say but unless you have seen a real di faced tenner I imagine they could easily be faked so someone who thinks they are doing right can still come unstuck! A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! lol
Although impulsive on smaller purchases I'm quite careful when it comes to spending vast sums and do tend to follow the 'if it's too good to be true.....' adage.
Watching the art found at Dismaland on ebay I was often sitting there thinking how could buyers be so gullible when simple research on sellers completed items tells you they happened to be 'lucky' enough to find 10 hidden gems on their day out! You have to feel sorry for those that have fallen to a well executed scam but sometimes you do feel people could help themselves a bit more not to so easily line the pockets of those preying on the gullible. It's one thing taking a chance on a small find in the hope that it proves to be a good buy but sometimes I feel people have to take responsibility for their own downfall.
I've been on here nearly 18 months now and I think I'm just about getting there in terms of being able to contribute to some discussions on artists who I have followed more closely but on others I would still be at a complete loss on and have no idea about despite them apparently sometimes being world famous! I do love this forum though because with time and effort there is a vast amount of knowledge and good advice tucked away in these threads which I frequently research when someone posts up something I like that I have never seen before. Mind you it usually ends up costing me money with something new to the collection! lol
I do not have a Banksy and although I understand better what to look for now I would not spend such a sum without doing further homework first and taking the advice of someone who knows more than me. I think it's different to research online and then actually buy in person. 'It should have a COA' people say but unless you have seen a real di faced tenner I imagine they could easily be faked so someone who thinks they are doing right can still come unstuck! A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing! lol
Although impulsive on smaller purchases I'm quite careful when it comes to spending vast sums and do tend to follow the 'if it's too good to be true.....' adage.
Watching the art found at Dismaland on ebay I was often sitting there thinking how could buyers be so gullible when simple research on sellers completed items tells you they happened to be 'lucky' enough to find 10 hidden gems on their day out! You have to feel sorry for those that have fallen to a well executed scam but sometimes you do feel people could help themselves a bit more not to so easily line the pockets of those preying on the gullible. It's one thing taking a chance on a small find in the hope that it proves to be a good buy but sometimes I feel people have to take responsibility for their own downfall.
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