Wearology
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Wearology on Feb 26, 2016 14:02:00 GMT 1, I am writing this as a forum member for the past 10 years and not as a Moderator / Forum Guardian.
It seems that our forum is being inundated with people that want to come on here to only sell products
and not contribute anything else to our community. Since the 50 minimum post rule is no longer in effect maybe we can come up with a more creative way to stem the tide of becoming another EBAY without the fees, negative feedback ramifications & security of a paypal payment return if something goes wrong.
I would love to hear the communities suggestions since so many of us buy & sell art on here. The slippery slope began when people no longer listed an asking price and started saying open to offers and than listed peoples offers and sometimes their PM's.
I am writing this as a forum member for the past 10 years and not as a Moderator / Forum Guardian.
It seems that our forum is being inundated with people that want to come on here to only sell products
and not contribute anything else to our community. Since the 50 minimum post rule is no longer in effect maybe we can come up with a more creative way to stem the tide of becoming another EBAY without the fees, negative feedback ramifications & security of a paypal payment return if something goes wrong.
I would love to hear the communities suggestions since so many of us buy & sell art on here. The slippery slope began when people no longer listed an asking price and started saying open to offers and than listed peoples offers and sometimes their PM's.
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 14:21:33 GMT 1, How about any potential for sale threads from anyone under 50 posts go through gaurdians/administration before they're published on to the forum.
They will need to include pictures location price and any other relevant information that is required before being published.
That way at least the only for sale threads that get published from one post wondetd will have pictures, location, price etc...
No idea if this is doable, but on other forums I've joined any threads that are started are looked at by that forum's Admin before being put out to the public
How about any potential for sale threads from anyone under 50 posts go through gaurdians/administration before they're published on to the forum.
They will need to include pictures location price and any other relevant information that is required before being published.
That way at least the only for sale threads that get published from one post wondetd will have pictures, location, price etc...
No idea if this is doable, but on other forums I've joined any threads that are started are looked at by that forum's Admin before being put out to the public
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Coach on Feb 26, 2016 14:27:20 GMT 1, I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread.
More relevant here.
Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's.
I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy!
I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread.
More relevant here.
Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's.
I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy!
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 14:28:54 GMT 1, Might just be me, but if a seller can't take the time to put up a quality sales thread, then I have little faith that they will take the time to pack and ship artwork properly. I don't care how long they have been on the forum, no pics available (listed on thread or by email, PDF, etc) price, location then you are taking a risk.
Might just be me, but if a seller can't take the time to put up a quality sales thread, then I have little faith that they will take the time to pack and ship artwork properly. I don't care how long they have been on the forum, no pics available (listed on thread or by email, PDF, etc) price, location then you are taking a risk.
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maxamaxa2
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by maxamaxa2 on Feb 26, 2016 14:30:19 GMT 1, Think that senior forum members need to step forward and setting the standard, there are few forums with as sloppy rules as here and if the standard is low on senior members threads then the rest will follow and the other way around (to a certain point ofc).
Think that the absolute minimum should be a good description of whats for sale and its condition, the location, shipping possibility's, return policy and a price
There should also always be required to have a picture of the item for sale.
These rules would make is a lot easier to buy art, to detect fakes and making it a lot safer for all. Its the least one could ask from the seller when its free to advertise here and as log as its not a real rule we should at least have as praxis to set the standard high.
Think that senior forum members need to step forward and setting the standard, there are few forums with as sloppy rules as here and if the standard is low on senior members threads then the rest will follow and the other way around (to a certain point ofc).
Think that the absolute minimum should be a good description of whats for sale and its condition, the location, shipping possibility's, return policy and a price
There should also always be required to have a picture of the item for sale.
These rules would make is a lot easier to buy art, to detect fakes and making it a lot safer for all. Its the least one could ask from the seller when its free to advertise here and as log as its not a real rule we should at least have as praxis to set the standard high.
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DrWhite
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by DrWhite on Feb 26, 2016 14:32:34 GMT 1,
There have been a couple of FS threads recently from members who joined in '06 '07 era - offering some nice art - they still don't have 50 posts though - so although they aren't new members the 50 post rule would also affect them.
I agree someone joining solely for the purpose of selling a print - should probably be directed to eBay.
There have been a couple of FS threads recently from members who joined in '06 '07 era - offering some nice art - they still don't have 50 posts though - so although they aren't new members the 50 post rule would also affect them.
I agree someone joining solely for the purpose of selling a print - should probably be directed to eBay.
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kaotek
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by kaotek on Feb 26, 2016 14:35:29 GMT 1, Requiring a second approval to post items for sale may help. Members would need to apply, and only be approved after mods verify a pre-determined number of posts have been made that actually contribute to the forum. The policy could also require that the member has been around for at least 6 months before posting a for sale add. Or require mod approval for all sale posts ensuring pics, price and details have been added before they will be listed.
Requiring a second approval to post items for sale may help. Members would need to apply, and only be approved after mods verify a pre-determined number of posts have been made that actually contribute to the forum. The policy could also require that the member has been around for at least 6 months before posting a for sale add. Or require mod approval for all sale posts ensuring pics, price and details have been added before they will be listed.
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Dr Plip
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Dr Plip on Feb 26, 2016 14:36:35 GMT 1, I get the impression a lot of the time that the 1-post wonders that appear with something to sell on here know exactly how the place works and have either been members in the past or present.
I get the impression a lot of the time that the 1-post wonders that appear with something to sell on here know exactly how the place works and have either been members in the past or present.
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Dr Plip
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Dr Plip on Feb 26, 2016 14:38:06 GMT 1, I appreciate that everybody wants to get the best price possible for their items, but by allowing listings without an asking price, you're just encouraging a behind-closed-doors eBay to exist.
I appreciate that everybody wants to get the best price possible for their items, but by allowing listings without an asking price, you're just encouraging a behind-closed-doors eBay to exist.
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Dr Plip on Feb 26, 2016 14:39:51 GMT 1, AND ANOTHER THING. The quality of the listing should have an impact on the saleability of an item.
AND ANOTHER THING. The quality of the listing should have an impact on the saleability of an item.
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Coach on Feb 26, 2016 14:40:31 GMT 1, C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff?
Selling art should be secondary to that.
If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it?
Bollocks to rules. Self police.
Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post!
Happy Friday x
C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff?
Selling art should be secondary to that.
If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it?
Bollocks to rules. Self police.
Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post!
Happy Friday x
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Coach on Feb 26, 2016 14:41:59 GMT 1, If a sales thread is crap, don't buy.
Simple as that.
If a sales thread is crap, don't buy.
Simple as that.
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kel
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by kel on Feb 26, 2016 14:43:06 GMT 1, Number of posts can always be manipulated how ever time registered as a member cant. Not sure if there is away to restrict a members ability to start a thread in the FS part of the forum based on time spent as a member eg 6 or 12 months. These ristrictions could always be lifted by an FG if they feel the member has contributed enough in the time scale that they have signed up.
Unfortunately it is a part of this forum that members lurk for information or give ways rather than contribute. There was a competition on the forum in the last 3 months were it was won by a member whose sole contribution to the forum over the past 12 months had been entering comps. Unfortunately that is something that can not be monitored but time registered as a member can.
Number of posts can always be manipulated how ever time registered as a member cant. Not sure if there is away to restrict a members ability to start a thread in the FS part of the forum based on time spent as a member eg 6 or 12 months. These ristrictions could always be lifted by an FG if they feel the member has contributed enough in the time scale that they have signed up.
Unfortunately it is a part of this forum that members lurk for information or give ways rather than contribute. There was a competition on the forum in the last 3 months were it was won by a member whose sole contribution to the forum over the past 12 months had been entering comps. Unfortunately that is something that can not be monitored but time registered as a member can.
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Ottomatik
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Ottomatik on Feb 26, 2016 14:48:18 GMT 1, I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread. More relevant here. Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's. I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy!
My response to your post on the MB thread:
The forum should be self policing.
We are a team here, FG and members.
We can't keep on top of everything, and we really appreciate the policing you members do as well!
You are correct, keeping up with the 50post rule took much time and energy from us guardians.
New members were trying their best to 'get around' the rule. Posting on the price check threads...etc.
This forum is Silkys baby. He decided that the forum is self policing.
(Which the past week has shown this to be correct with members calling out many for sale threads.) BTW-thanks for that, guys!
The 50 post rule IS history.
It seems that many for sale threads lately are giving less and less info of what they are selling.
The rules ask that members should post as much info as possible.
Which in return, should sell said item quicker!
I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread. More relevant here. Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's. I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy! My response to your post on the MB thread: The forum should be self policing. We are a team here, FG and members. We can't keep on top of everything, and we really appreciate the policing you members do as well! You are correct, keeping up with the 50post rule took much time and energy from us guardians. New members were trying their best to 'get around' the rule. Posting on the price check threads...etc. This forum is Silkys baby. He decided that the forum is self policing. (Which the past week has shown this to be correct with members calling out many for sale threads.) BTW-thanks for that, guys! The 50 post rule IS history. It seems that many for sale threads lately are giving less and less info of what they are selling. The rules ask that members should post as much info as possible. Which in return, should sell said item quicker! |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Cornish Crayon on Feb 26, 2016 14:48:59 GMT 1, C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x
If you haven't had a drink yet, I suggest you do as soon as possible  lol
C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x If you haven't had a drink yet, I suggest you do as soon as possible lol |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 14:51:04 GMT 1, C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x
C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x Bang on Coach |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by 11 on Feb 26, 2016 14:52:02 GMT 1, As long as this remains constructive and informative then maybe we should see if we can make this a sticky for future new sellers to reference
My post on the 1 post Faile dog sales thread -
I would hope that you guys set expectations on new members and their sales threads
There is a lot of inconsistency where someone will make a first post sales thread and get rightly harangued for not making any contribution - then suddenly a sought after piece comes up and everyone loves the first post seller
Its about consistency otherwise it is a free-for-all
As a side thought, would people would be so hasty in making a $x,000 deal with someone on eBay that had no feedback?
As long as this remains constructive and informative then maybe we should see if we can make this a sticky for future new sellers to reference
My post on the 1 post Faile dog sales thread -
I would hope that you guys set expectations on new members and their sales threads
There is a lot of inconsistency where someone will make a first post sales thread and get rightly harangued for not making any contribution - then suddenly a sought after piece comes up and everyone loves the first post seller
Its about consistency otherwise it is a free-for-all
As a side thought, would people would be so hasty in making a $x,000 deal with someone on eBay that had no feedback?
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Larry David on Feb 26, 2016 14:56:08 GMT 1, Im not for too many rules however we have to stop or try to sellers coming on and hawking "iffy" prints like the LIITA last week, I don't know the answer.
Would it not be possible for, for sale just to stay in that section and keep the stuff for sale and wanted in those relevant sections only thus freeing up active threads for general discussion etc? Just a thought.
Im not for too many rules however we have to stop or try to sellers coming on and hawking "iffy" prints like the LIITA last week, I don't know the answer.
Would it not be possible for, for sale just to stay in that section and keep the stuff for sale and wanted in those relevant sections only thus freeing up active threads for general discussion etc? Just a thought.
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Coach on Feb 26, 2016 14:58:14 GMT 1, C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x If you haven't had a drink yet, I suggest you do as soon as possible lol
Few more hours! Weekend can't come soon enough. I was having a shit week before the clutch went on my car.!
C'mon chaps. Can't we see the irony in wanting more and more rules on a site celebrating street art and graff? Selling art should be secondary to that. If we fill this place with rules, it's not that rebellious, is it? Bollocks to rules. Self police. Oh, and bollocks to price checks too, while I'm at it. Almost every other bloody post! Happy Friday x If you haven't had a drink yet, I suggest you do as soon as possible lol Few more hours! Weekend can't come soon enough. I was having a shit week before the clutch went on my car.! |
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Wearology
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Wearology on Feb 26, 2016 15:02:20 GMT 1, This is a very constructive thread. Maybe we can set a price limit of 200 pounds for a persons 1st sale no matter how many posts they have or how long they have been on the forum. The main reason we need to develop some sort of quasi rule system is because the price of urban art on the secondary market has changed dramatically since 2006 and we don't want anyone to get really burned on a sale gone bad.
This is a very constructive thread. Maybe we can set a price limit of 200 pounds for a persons 1st sale no matter how many posts they have or how long they have been on the forum. The main reason we need to develop some sort of quasi rule system is because the price of urban art on the secondary market has changed dramatically since 2006 and we don't want anyone to get really burned on a sale gone bad.
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by 11 on Feb 26, 2016 15:09:52 GMT 1, I think, taking Dans lead - we cant apply 'Rules' regardless whether it is a post, time or financial limitation - but we should establish expectations which this thread is already beginning to do
If we are to self-police then it takes a consistent stand by all members that we expect people to contribute to the forum more so than just calling price checks and sales threads....and it is easy to see which members do nothing but live in the , Price Check and Sales Threads.
It is for the forum to decide what is acceptable but we do have to be consistent
I think, taking Dans lead - we cant apply 'Rules' regardless whether it is a post, time or financial limitation - but we should establish expectations which this thread is already beginning to do
If we are to self-police then it takes a consistent stand by all members that we expect people to contribute to the forum more so than just calling price checks and sales threads....and it is easy to see which members do nothing but live in the , Price Check and Sales Threads.
It is for the forum to decide what is acceptable but we do have to be consistent
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Coach on Feb 26, 2016 15:26:31 GMT 1, I think, taking Dans lead - we cant apply 'Rules' regardless whether it is a post, time or financial limitation - but we should establish expectations which this thread is already beginning to do If we are to self-police then it takes a consistent stand by all members that we expect people to contribute to the forum more so than just calling price checks and sales threads....and it is easy to see which members do nothing but live in the , Price Check and Sales Threads. It is for the forum to decide what is acceptable but we do have to be consistent
Well said sir.
I think, taking Dans lead - we cant apply 'Rules' regardless whether it is a post, time or financial limitation - but we should establish expectations which this thread is already beginning to do If we are to self-police then it takes a consistent stand by all members that we expect people to contribute to the forum more so than just calling price checks and sales threads....and it is easy to see which members do nothing but live in the , Price Check and Sales Threads. It is for the forum to decide what is acceptable but we do have to be consistent Well said sir. |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Daniel Silk on Feb 26, 2016 15:32:01 GMT 1, How about any potential for sale threads from anyone under 50 posts go through gaurdians/administration before they're published on to the forum. They will need to include pictures location price and any other relevant information that is required before being published. That way at least the only for sale threads that get published from one post wondetd will have pictures, location, price etc... No idea if this is doable, but on other forums I've joined any threads that are started are looked at by that forum's Admin before being put out to the public
I have looked into that as an option, and it is possible, but it has a problem 
Most of these extra systems only work on the desktop version of the site and the Mobile version works like a loophole around it so not really worth trying until the two version of the sites work better together. I believe Proboards are making big improvements in that setup, so fingers crossed it will be something we can use.
Sorry.
How about any potential for sale threads from anyone under 50 posts go through gaurdians/administration before they're published on to the forum. They will need to include pictures location price and any other relevant information that is required before being published. That way at least the only for sale threads that get published from one post wondetd will have pictures, location, price etc... No idea if this is doable, but on other forums I've joined any threads that are started are looked at by that forum's Admin before being put out to the public I have looked into that as an option, and it is possible, but it has a problem Most of these extra systems only work on the desktop version of the site and the Mobile version works like a loophole around it so not really worth trying until the two version of the sites work better together. I believe Proboards are making big improvements in that setup, so fingers crossed it will be something we can use. Sorry. |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Daniel Silk on Feb 26, 2016 15:37:20 GMT 1, As I said, we can add all kinds of automatic restrictions to sales threads, but the mobile version of the site is a work around so its just restricts some while others in the know get away with it.
I think trying to police it too much only causes problems between Guardians and Members, and upsets the flow of the forum with discussions on rules.
As I said, we can add all kinds of automatic restrictions to sales threads, but the mobile version of the site is a work around so its just restricts some while others in the know get away with it. I think trying to police it too much only causes problems between Guardians and Members, and upsets the flow of the forum with discussions on rules. |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Art Fan 2011 on Feb 26, 2016 16:08:42 GMT 1, As "Guardians" one would imagine you were on the forums more than most so should be more than capable of checking the FS threads regularly! Any post that comes from a member with less than 50 posts gets deleted, as does any FS thread that does not include AT LEAST the minimum info considered acceptable - simples  (as another member mentioned I suspect some of these aforementioned "1 post wonders" are infact existing members with multiple accounts)
Just my thoughts, anyway I am off to "police" the FS section now 
As "Guardians" one would imagine you were on the forums more than most so should be more than capable of checking the FS threads regularly! Any post that comes from a member with less than 50 posts gets deleted, as does any FS thread that does not include AT LEAST the minimum info considered acceptable - simples (as another member mentioned I suspect some of these aforementioned "1 post wonders" are infact existing members with multiple accounts) Just my thoughts, anyway I am off to "police" the FS section now |
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by sameoldthing on Feb 26, 2016 16:11:18 GMT 1, Can we make a decision! I'm in suspense and want to sell something. I want to buy something else! Can i can't i...?
I sold something the other day and it went quick...
I'm honest.Honest!
Can we make a decision! I'm in suspense and want to sell something. I want to buy something else! Can i can't i...?
I sold something the other day and it went quick...
I'm honest.Honest!
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by doyle on Feb 26, 2016 16:19:15 GMT 1, I'm looking at it another way. I have suggested it a few times now, but
having 'new members introduce yourself' thread on home page in BOLD caps as a permanent stickee thread and in there a small few words about selling and expected contribution. Also it needs to be seen on mobile version too as a permanent stickee thread as well.
I think new members who introduce themselves will be more likely feel part of the community and the knock-on effect is better behaviour.
I'm looking at it another way. I have suggested it a few times now, but
having 'new members introduce yourself' thread on home page in BOLD caps as a permanent stickee thread and in there a small few words about selling and expected contribution. Also it needs to be seen on mobile version too as a permanent stickee thread as well.
I think new members who introduce themselves will be more likely feel part of the community and the knock-on effect is better behaviour.
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dreadnatty
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by dreadnatty on Feb 26, 2016 16:34:44 GMT 1, Im not for too many rules however we have to stop or try to sellers coming on and hawking "iffy" prints like the LIITA last week, I don't know the answer. Would it not be possible for, for sale just to stay in that section and keep the stuff for sale and wanted in those relevant sections only thus freeing up active threads for general discussion etc? Just a thought.
Im not for too many rules however we have to stop or try to sellers coming on and hawking "iffy" prints like the LIITA last week, I don't know the answer. Would it not be possible for, for sale just to stay in that section and keep the stuff for sale and wanted in those relevant sections only thus freeing up active threads for general discussion etc? Just a thought. Im with this! If the FS section stayed OFF the NEW POSTS thread I think this would help quite a bit. |
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February 2013
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by dreadnatty on Feb 26, 2016 16:42:46 GMT 1, I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread. More relevant here. Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's. I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy!
I posted this on the miss bugs sale thread. More relevant here. Joking aside, I think that the problem was that policing the rule was taking up too much of the FG's time. Is that right Otto? If so, I can completely understand why the rule was scrapped, as FG's have to have the time to enjoy being members on here, as well as being FG's. I do not know what the answer is. My default position tends to be that the fewer rules the better, and let the forum police itself. If we don't buy from people who take the piss, and piss taking posts get derided in the way that zippy did with this one, then perhaps sellers will think about engaging a little more before selling, and posting proper for sale threads. But it is up to us, not FG's to self police. And not buy! This is great in theory but there are always going to be people that will pull the trigger, no matter how awful the FS thread. So many flipper/online 'galleries'/resellers strictly looking to make $$ยฃยฃยฃโฌโฌโฌ(especially since they save the 10% fee) it just clogs up the forum,often creating multiple negative posts(many indeed called for) and it just feeds on itself. All this while taking away from actual discussion about art. Eventually it will drive away good members or just make them spend less time on here. Just my 2 cents. |
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January 1970
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For Sales Thread Improvements , by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 16:57:05 GMT 1, I think artfan2011 was one of those guys that was bullied at school....
I think artfan2011 was one of those guys that was bullied at school....
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lol 
(as another member mentioned I suspect some of these aforementioned "1 post wonders" are infact existing members with multiple accounts)
