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Sold, by NYart on Jun 5, 2016 0:13:18 GMT 1, Sold
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 5, 2016 22:25:18 GMT 1, Little bit of interest, but still available. $300 would take it home for those wondering.
Little bit of interest, but still available. $300 would take it home for those wondering.
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Sold, by mishen on Jun 6, 2016 5:04:38 GMT 1, I have two, who knows if they are real right? UGH.
I have two, who knows if they are real right? UGH.
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Sold, by warholsdream on Jun 6, 2016 6:15:04 GMT 1, I have a reciept from a gallery for mine so this makes me happy, got burnt on the Bay so searched high and low. Bought two from members on here both legit but one a had a receipt.
I have a reciept from a gallery for mine so this makes me happy, got burnt on the Bay so searched high and low. Bought two from members on here both legit but one a had a receipt.
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Sold, by iamzero on Jun 6, 2016 6:43:55 GMT 1, Receipt from which gallery? The only place I know that had them for sale was Westbank and they came as a pair?
Receipt from which gallery? The only place I know that had them for sale was Westbank and they came as a pair?
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Sold, by Deleted on Jun 6, 2016 8:02:50 GMT 1, Receipt from which gallery? The only place I know that had them for sale was Westbank and they came as a pair?
When I got mine from Laz they declined to add it to a receipt. Understandably so as it was free, so intrigued too where the receipt in this instance came from.
Receipt from which gallery? The only place I know that had them for sale was Westbank and they came as a pair? When I got mine from Laz they declined to add it to a receipt. Understandably so as it was free, so intrigued too where the receipt in this instance came from.
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Sold, by kidaussie on Jun 7, 2016 14:27:53 GMT 1, Would you accept ยฃ10?
Would you accept ยฃ10?
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 15:05:51 GMT 1, I'd take 20 of them
I'd take 20 of them
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Sold, by DB on Jun 7, 2016 15:17:33 GMT 1, It's a shame because I would love one of these but there's no real way of telling they're not fake. Or is there?
It's a shame because I would love one of these but there's no real way of telling they're not fake. Or is there?
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 15:58:07 GMT 1, There's several things to look for, size, weight, and printing type, which are all correct on mine, but short of that not really unfortunately. If you had proof of it coming from Lazarides that's about the only sure thing.
There's several things to look for, size, weight, and printing type, which are all correct on mine, but short of that not really unfortunately. If you had proof of it coming from Lazarides that's about the only sure thing.
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 16:00:02 GMT 1, I guess you could say it's easier to prove a fake one fake than to prove a real one real lol.
I guess you could say it's easier to prove a fake one fake than to prove a real one real lol.
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Baby Dave
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Sold, by Baby Dave on Jun 7, 2016 18:09:45 GMT 1, Where does the weight tell come from. This is a recent revelation.... I saw people selling the crap ones on eBay start mentioning weight a few years back.
I can't recall it being mentioned anywhere in old sales threads. Is there a provenance for this provenance?
Where does the weight tell come from. This is a recent revelation.... I saw people selling the crap ones on eBay start mentioning weight a few years back.
I can't recall it being mentioned anywhere in old sales threads. Is there a provenance for this provenance?
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Sold, by Quinnster on Jun 7, 2016 18:44:39 GMT 1, Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one...
Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one...
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Baby Dave
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Sold, by Baby Dave on Jun 7, 2016 19:01:17 GMT 1, Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one...
That's what I would say. I can't pin point where the weight aspect came about and where the barometer for this weight came about. OP, where did you find the weight measurements?
Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one... That's what I would say. I can't pin point where the weight aspect came about and where the barometer for this weight came about. OP, where did you find the weight measurements?
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iamzero
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Sold, by iamzero on Jun 7, 2016 19:05:27 GMT 1, I think someone put together some kind of comparison on here mentioning weight and size and cropping and dots etc. Still think you need to compare it to a genuine. Easiest way is to find a Pest Control COA... Or bring it to my house. I might issue my own pest control and verify your tenner for a tenner. I might be on to something here.
I think someone put together some kind of comparison on here mentioning weight and size and cropping and dots etc. Still think you need to compare it to a genuine. Easiest way is to find a Pest Control COA... Or bring it to my house. I might issue my own pest control and verify your tenner for a tenner. I might be on to something here.
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 19:28:59 GMT 1, Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one... That's what I would say. I can't pin point where the weight aspect came about and where the barometer for this weight came about. OP, where did you find the weight measurements?
I first came across it on expressobeans but just kinda figured it was common knowledge haha
Only way to tell is to compare it to a pest control one... That's what I would say. I can't pin point where the weight aspect came about and where the barometer for this weight came about. OP, where did you find the weight measurements? I first came across it on expressobeans but just kinda figured it was common knowledge haha
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Baby Dave
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Sold, by Baby Dave on Jun 7, 2016 19:36:39 GMT 1, I guess that's the danger with the di faced tenners. The only real way to satisfy yourself would be with a COA comparison. Even with this you wouldn't be able to check the weight aspect.
Or maybe someone wants to chop up a sheet so we can settle this? Ha.
I personally am skeptical with the weight being a prov aspect. Who's to say a scammer didn't sow the seed to peddle some fakes and people have taken this as gospel. The story gets diluted along the line and then no one knows where the baseline is. I could say that a key provenance would be that there is a certain cluster of dots in the top centre of Di's left eye.
I'm a very skeptical person if you can't tell already!
I guess that's the danger with the di faced tenners. The only real way to satisfy yourself would be with a COA comparison. Even with this you wouldn't be able to check the weight aspect.
Or maybe someone wants to chop up a sheet so we can settle this? Ha.
I personally am skeptical with the weight being a prov aspect. Who's to say a scammer didn't sow the seed to peddle some fakes and people have taken this as gospel. The story gets diluted along the line and then no one knows where the baseline is. I could say that a key provenance would be that there is a certain cluster of dots in the top centre of Di's left eye.
I'm a very skeptical person if you can't tell already!
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 19:47:15 GMT 1, If you have a tenner COA see if you can't get a high res shot of her eye lol, can't imagine a copy could reproduce a minuscule detail like the pattern of dots in a specific spot.
As far as the weight though, let's say a forger convinced everyone a real tenner weighed 1.34. Wouldn't that mean every copy/forger there after would need to use the same paper to get the size and weight right in order for it to have the 'correct' weight?
If you have a tenner COA see if you can't get a high res shot of her eye lol, can't imagine a copy could reproduce a minuscule detail like the pattern of dots in a specific spot.
As far as the weight though, let's say a forger convinced everyone a real tenner weighed 1.34. Wouldn't that mean every copy/forger there after would need to use the same paper to get the size and weight right in order for it to have the 'correct' weight?
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Baby Dave
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Sold, by Baby Dave on Jun 7, 2016 19:54:34 GMT 1, If you have a tenner COA see if you can't get a high res shot of her eye lol, can't imagine a copy could reproduce a minuscule detail like the pattern of dots in a specific spot. As far as the weight though, let's say a forger convinced everyone a real tenner weighed 1.34. Wouldn't that mean every copy/forger there after would need to use the same paper to get the size and weight right in order for it to have the 'correct' weight?
Yeah it would mean that. If I were going to sell copies of something which is well known to be heavily forged, I would want to make mine stand out above the rest. By coming up with an individual aspect for mine, I could use this as a selling point. All my copies would meet these specs as I have made them....other copies wouldn't meet this spec as I have created this false prov to peddle my goods.
My point is, I would only rely upon printing aspects and texture. These, to my limited knowledge, were the only tells which were spoken about when the tenners first fell foul of forgers.
Again, I could be totally wrong and I don't want to detract away from your thread. I just thought it was an interesting topic
If you have a tenner COA see if you can't get a high res shot of her eye lol, can't imagine a copy could reproduce a minuscule detail like the pattern of dots in a specific spot. As far as the weight though, let's say a forger convinced everyone a real tenner weighed 1.34. Wouldn't that mean every copy/forger there after would need to use the same paper to get the size and weight right in order for it to have the 'correct' weight? Yeah it would mean that. If I were going to sell copies of something which is well known to be heavily forged, I would want to make mine stand out above the rest. By coming up with an individual aspect for mine, I could use this as a selling point. All my copies would meet these specs as I have made them....other copies wouldn't meet this spec as I have created this false prov to peddle my goods. My point is, I would only rely upon printing aspects and texture. These, to my limited knowledge, were the only tells which were spoken about when the tenners first fell foul of forgers. Again, I could be totally wrong and I don't want to detract away from your thread. I just thought it was an interesting topic
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 7, 2016 20:46:38 GMT 1, No worries, interested myself. Would be nice for some members with COA's to take some good hi res pictures, and maybe others with for sure genuine tenners to get measurements and weights. If we had a solid thread with good information I'm sure many people would benefit from it.
No worries, interested myself. Would be nice for some members with COA's to take some good hi res pictures, and maybe others with for sure genuine tenners to get measurements and weights. If we had a solid thread with good information I'm sure many people would benefit from it.
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Sold, by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 21:00:41 GMT 1, Or help the fakers make better fakes.
Or help the fakers make better fakes.
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NYart
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Sold, by NYart on Jun 8, 2016 14:46:55 GMT 1, Would take $250 if anyone interested wants it. Need to pay off the card from a couple impulse buys lol
Would take $250 if anyone interested wants it. Need to pay off the card from a couple impulse buys lol
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