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artist proof or edition?, by crashwilliams on Oct 12, 2016 17:03:50 GMT 1, I have a couple of AP in your collection but mostly editions. What are peeps thoughts on AP - personally I'd like more as think theyre that little bit more special though happy to hear other thoughts.
I have a couple of AP in your collection but mostly editions. What are peeps thoughts on AP - personally I'd like more as think theyre that little bit more special though happy to hear other thoughts.
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.dappy
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artist proof or edition?, by .dappy on Oct 12, 2016 17:15:07 GMT 1, ... I like artists proofs that are 'not quite right ' or different colour way/something different in it.
... the ap edition number should also be known as one or two artists, some would say, have used APs as a way of just increasing the edition number/getting more money ...
...unless there is something different it has the same value as a regular edition piece ...
... I like artists proofs that are 'not quite right ' or different colour way/something different in it.
... the ap edition number should also be known as one or two artists, some would say, have used APs as a way of just increasing the edition number/getting more money ...
...unless there is something different it has the same value as a regular edition piece ...
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barsukauk
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artist proof or edition?, by barsukauk on Oct 12, 2016 17:34:05 GMT 1, I will pay more for A/P and and even more for PP if those are numbered and low edition
I will pay more for A/P and and even more for PP if those are numbered and low edition
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WOOF
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artist proof or edition?, by WOOF on Oct 12, 2016 17:50:21 GMT 1, I will pay more for A/P and and even more for PP if those are numbered and low edition
Just out of curiosity, why even more for a PP?
I will pay more for A/P and and even more for PP if those are numbered and low edition Just out of curiosity, why even more for a PP? |
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artist proof or edition?, by laurentbaboo on Oct 12, 2016 17:53:04 GMT 1, Same as Dappy here, A/P or P/P are worth getting if they got that little extra! i.e. got a Blek, the man who walk through walls with the flag on the suitcase hand painted, lovely! I guess i'll have to post it in the Show us your A/P thread!
Same as Dappy here, A/P or P/P are worth getting if they got that little extra! i.e. got a Blek, the man who walk through walls with the flag on the suitcase hand painted, lovely! I guess i'll have to post it in the Show us your A/P thread!
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artist proof or edition?, by crashwilliams on Oct 12, 2016 18:00:05 GMT 1, Thanks guys - would love to see that Blek one, sounds brilliant. I have a Nick Walker Mona Shot which was recently framed and I love it. Did read about the edition numbers for AP and some using as a cash cow, guess you never know.
Bone question - what's PP?
Thanks guys - would love to see that Blek one, sounds brilliant. I have a Nick Walker Mona Shot which was recently framed and I love it. Did read about the edition numbers for AP and some using as a cash cow, guess you never know.
Bone question - what's PP?
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WOOF
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artist proof or edition?, by WOOF on Oct 12, 2016 18:04:40 GMT 1, Thanks guys - would love to see that Blek one, sounds brilliant. I have a Nick Walker Mona Shot which was recently framed and I love it. Did read about the edition numbers for AP and some using as a cash cow, guess you never know. Bone question - what's PP?
Printer's Proof
Thanks guys - would love to see that Blek one, sounds brilliant. I have a Nick Walker Mona Shot which was recently framed and I love it. Did read about the edition numbers for AP and some using as a cash cow, guess you never know. Bone question - what's PP? Printer's Proof |
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artist proof or edition?, by crashwilliams on Oct 12, 2016 19:10:23 GMT 1, Thanks 2bit - are these 'rarer' then? Never seen that term before!
Thanks 2bit - are these 'rarer' then? Never seen that term before!
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rjf76
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artist proof or edition?, by rjf76 on Oct 12, 2016 19:10:33 GMT 1, Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1
Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1 |
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artist proof or edition?, by loother on Oct 12, 2016 19:21:45 GMT 1, Unless the AP/PP is different to the main edition, I personally would prefer a numbered edition. Even where they are different, these additions often seem half-hearted. AP/PPs that are identical to the main edition but sold at a higher price are irritating and should be outlawed.
Unless the AP/PP is different to the main edition, I personally would prefer a numbered edition. Even where they are different, these additions often seem half-hearted. AP/PPs that are identical to the main edition but sold at a higher price are irritating and should be outlawed.
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artist proof or edition?, by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 19:29:50 GMT 1, Unless the AP/PP is different to the main edition, I personally would prefer a numbered edition. Even where they are different, these additions often seem half-hearted. AP/PPs that are identical to the main edition but sold at a higher price are irritating and should be outlawed.
Indeed but every now and again u get something like the coloured IFTL's which are great AP's.
Unless the AP/PP is different to the main edition, I personally would prefer a numbered edition. Even where they are different, these additions often seem half-hearted. AP/PPs that are identical to the main edition but sold at a higher price are irritating and should be outlawed. Indeed but every now and again u get something like the coloured IFTL's which are great AP's. |
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artist proof or edition?, by crashwilliams on Oct 12, 2016 19:33:26 GMT 1, Rjf76 love that eine - the gold against the 'mustard' is very good ๐
Rjf76 love that eine - the gold against the 'mustard' is very good ๐
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Bazaaart
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artist proof or edition?, by Bazaaart on Oct 12, 2016 19:42:01 GMT 1, Hi everyone, I work with fine art prints and how usually an Artist Proof is described is for example, up to 50% are the property of the artist and the remainder are donated to worthy cause organizations or sold. But this all depends on each artist and publisher.
They are also impressions that are identical to the regular editions, only difference being the smaller numbers made for AP's. Just my opinion but I think the artists that make their AP's slightly different such as variant editions or adding embellishment to the AP prints makes it more unique and valuable for collectors.
Hi everyone, I work with fine art prints and how usually an Artist Proof is described is for example, up to 50% are the property of the artist and the remainder are donated to worthy cause organizations or sold. But this all depends on each artist and publisher.
They are also impressions that are identical to the regular editions, only difference being the smaller numbers made for AP's. Just my opinion but I think the artists that make their AP's slightly different such as variant editions or adding embellishment to the AP prints makes it more unique and valuable for collectors.
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artist proof or edition?, by sl on Oct 12, 2016 20:03:47 GMT 1, Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1
Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1 I can see why you would want that. Crackin print. Being a 1/1 really can't get any better I think. Would much rather have the s than an edition of multiples |
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artist proof or edition?, by slipry on Oct 12, 2016 20:41:36 GMT 1, I like a good AP / PP if there are variations for sure.
I like a good AP / PP if there are variations for sure.
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rjf76
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artist proof or edition?, by rjf76 on Oct 12, 2016 21:51:16 GMT 1, Cheers sl and crashwilliams .....next in the framing queue 
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artist proof or edition?, by opi on Oct 13, 2016 1:40:39 GMT 1, It looks the same as the edition of 10 in the silver and gold, at least compared to my edition...did I miss something?
Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1 I can see why you would want that. Crackin print. Being a 1/1 really can't get any better I think. Would much rather have the s than an edition of multiples
It looks the same as the edition of 10 in the silver and gold, at least compared to my edition...did I miss something? Agree with Dappy & Laurent - think it needs that little twist (unless it's the last option in an edition!)....I picked up this Eine because I loved the colourways more than the editions and it's a 1/1 I can see why you would want that. Crackin print. Being a 1/1 really can't get any better I think. Would much rather have the s than an edition of multiples |
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artist proof or edition?, by rjf76 on Oct 13, 2016 7:34:35 GMT 1, It looks the same as the edition of 10 in the silver and gold, at least compared to my edition...did I miss something? I can see why you would want that. Crackin print. Being a 1/1 really can't get any better I think. Would much rather have the s than an edition of multiplesย
Totally different paper stock.This is on Matt grey.
It looks the same as the edition of 10 in the silver and gold, at least compared to my edition...did I miss something? I can see why you would want that. Crackin print. Being a 1/1 really can't get any better I think. Would much rather have the s than an edition of multiplesย Totally different paper stock.This is on Matt grey. |
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artist proof or edition?, by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 8:07:14 GMT 1, What's acceptable as a Ap or PP? I'd be happy to buy one that is testing a different colour or technique but not happy if a layer is slightly off or issue with the ink. I know some people like the subtle imperfections of screenprinting but I'm a little ocd with that. I would of thought some AP's/PP's are from overprinting in case of errors or having to replace prints, those Identical to the edition. I agree they should be numbered and not more than 5-10% depending on edition size. I've had this discussion with artists who don't number AP's some classing them as unique 1/1.
What's acceptable as a Ap or PP? I'd be happy to buy one that is testing a different colour or technique but not happy if a layer is slightly off or issue with the ink. I know some people like the subtle imperfections of screenprinting but I'm a little ocd with that. I would of thought some AP's/PP's are from overprinting in case of errors or having to replace prints, those Identical to the edition. I agree they should be numbered and not more than 5-10% depending on edition size. I've had this discussion with artists who don't number AP's some classing them as unique 1/1.
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artist proof or edition?, by rjf76 on Oct 13, 2016 8:42:03 GMT 1, Good points stender - I'd only want a 'perfect' print. I'll be paying for the unique nature, not a test or an error which in any other industry would be discarded/destroyed. I have seen some great 'happy accidents' though, which arguably are better than the intended results ha ha - think it also depends on the artist.
Good points stender - I'd only want a 'perfect' print. I'll be paying for the unique nature, not a test or an error which in any other industry would be discarded/destroyed. I have seen some great 'happy accidents' though, which arguably are better than the intended results ha ha - think it also depends on the artist. |
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artist proof or edition?, by J0NNY on Oct 14, 2016 12:03:27 GMT 1,
Just got the only AP of this Roamcouch covered in Glitter. My avatar is also a Roamcouch AP ed 5 also glitter but in different colours from the main edition.
Artist proofs like this are some of my favourites but I find that sometimes Artists can use them to take the piss ( Eelus springs to mind )
Just got the only AP of this Roamcouch covered in Glitter. My avatar is also a Roamcouch AP ed 5 also glitter but in different colours from the main edition. Artist proofs like this are some of my favourites but I find that sometimes Artists can use them to take the piss ( Eelus springs to mind ) |
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artist proof or edition?, by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 15:03:17 GMT 1, I print the first 4 layers then can't get the colour I want on the final layer until 3rd attempt. That means I have 2 which are slightly different colour to the edition. Those I would call PP's.
I print 4 of 5 layers on my edition and for the last layer I change the thin outline for a thick one. I don't like it so print the rest as a thin line. So I have 1 print with a thick outline. That I would call an AP.
If I want to print an edition of 20x5 layer prints I might print 40 of the first layer, muck up 3 of those etc.....at the end I might end up with 23 good prints. I release 20 as an edition. What do I call the other 3?
It's all very vague and interpretted differently. Same goes for the amount.
Someone like me will have A LOT of wastage when printing so I should charge more :-) On a good day I might end up with several extras (rare). I would guess the pro's like Jelous don't make many mistakes.
I print the first 4 layers then can't get the colour I want on the final layer until 3rd attempt. That means I have 2 which are slightly different colour to the edition. Those I would call PP's.
I print 4 of 5 layers on my edition and for the last layer I change the thin outline for a thick one. I don't like it so print the rest as a thin line. So I have 1 print with a thick outline. That I would call an AP.
If I want to print an edition of 20x5 layer prints I might print 40 of the first layer, muck up 3 of those etc.....at the end I might end up with 23 good prints. I release 20 as an edition. What do I call the other 3?
It's all very vague and interpretted differently. Same goes for the amount.
Someone like me will have A LOT of wastage when printing so I should charge more :-) On a good day I might end up with several extras (rare). I would guess the pro's like Jelous don't make many mistakes.
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artist proof or edition?, by rgc on Oct 14, 2016 15:40:59 GMT 1,
What do I call the other 3?
Back door prints. 
What do I call the other 3? Back door prints. |
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