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I just don’t get it at all , by sixftjellybaby on Oct 22, 2016 11:18:27 GMT 1, I was looking at all the photos from the kaws show and I thought I just don’t get it at all (cartoons with x’s for eyes)... I am not saying that I’m right and everybody else is wrong and I’m willing to be persuaded that I’m wrong. I thought about other artists I don’t get like Harland miller (just book covers) and faile, I just don’t see it at all. Please don’t turn this into a slanging match, I just wondered if anyone else didn’t get an artist’s entire catalogue of work and why
I was looking at all the photos from the kaws show and I thought I just don’t get it at all (cartoons with x’s for eyes)... I am not saying that I’m right and everybody else is wrong and I’m willing to be persuaded that I’m wrong. I thought about other artists I don’t get like Harland miller (just book covers) and faile, I just don’t see it at all. Please don’t turn this into a slanging match, I just wondered if anyone else didn’t get an artist’s entire catalogue of work and why
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I just don’t get it at all , by Dive Jedi on Oct 22, 2016 11:49:24 GMT 1, Well, I'm not to familiar with KAWS portfolio. But the dolls and the dissected versions are quite cool. I don't get that folks pay 15K for a Snoopy print, but all the power to them.
Artist develop a certain style people appreciate and they continue that line. As long as they find it challenging and love doing it, that's great. If you don't like an artist, don't buy it. Just had a chat with another forum member. We both love Snik. He loves Banksy - me not so much. I think SHOK-1 is awesome - doesn't do it for him. When I saw a Chevrier for the first time I thought it was so cool. After the least release I thougt ; Yeah, more chicks with sh!t in their face.... They make their art. We either F5 the hell out our keyboards. Or couldn't care less.
Well, I'm not to familiar with KAWS portfolio. But the dolls and the dissected versions are quite cool. I don't get that folks pay 15K for a Snoopy print, but all the power to them. Artist develop a certain style people appreciate and they continue that line. As long as they find it challenging and love doing it, that's great. If you don't like an artist, don't buy it. Just had a chat with another forum member. We both love Snik. He loves Banksy - me not so much. I think SHOK-1 is awesome - doesn't do it for him. When I saw a Chevrier for the first time I thought it was so cool. After the least release I thougt ; Yeah, more chicks with sh!t in their face.... They make their art. We either F5 the hell out our keyboards. Or couldn't care less.
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I just don’t get it at all , by natstan on Oct 22, 2016 12:21:50 GMT 1, I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around.
I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays.
I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works.
I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around.
I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays.
I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works.
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I just don’t get it at all , by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 13:43:05 GMT 1, I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around. I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays. I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works.
Well said. As I learn more about artists and their process, inspirations, intentions of their work I ultimately end up seeing or appreciating the work differently. It's not always the case but often it is for me. Art in general gives us the opportunity to see something through someone else's eyes and experiences for a moment if you are open to it. I personally like asking "why". There is a bit of exploration involved. Or you can just take things as face value and leave it that if preferred. STIK is a perfect example for me. For a long time I just didn't connect to the work but after learning the artists intentions through books and conversations as well as exploring his portfolio of street and home pieces I started to appreciate his work differently. I can say I am now a happy owner of a signed STIK book print ;-) In movies Veerhoven comes to mind as a great example...maybe for a different discussion.
Anyway, I think it's always a great question to ask why we connect artists or what we see in art that elicits some kind of emotional response. Too often this conversations gets overshadowed by monetary value. "Is it worth it?" takes a backseat to "Do I like it?"
I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around. I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays. I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works. Well said. As I learn more about artists and their process, inspirations, intentions of their work I ultimately end up seeing or appreciating the work differently. It's not always the case but often it is for me. Art in general gives us the opportunity to see something through someone else's eyes and experiences for a moment if you are open to it. I personally like asking "why". There is a bit of exploration involved. Or you can just take things as face value and leave it that if preferred. STIK is a perfect example for me. For a long time I just didn't connect to the work but after learning the artists intentions through books and conversations as well as exploring his portfolio of street and home pieces I started to appreciate his work differently. I can say I am now a happy owner of a signed STIK book print ;-) In movies Veerhoven comes to mind as a great example...maybe for a different discussion. Anyway, I think it's always a great question to ask why we connect artists or what we see in art that elicits some kind of emotional response. Too often this conversations gets overshadowed by monetary value. "Is it worth it?" takes a backseat to "Do I like it?"
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I just don’t get it at all , by Viking Surfer on Oct 22, 2016 14:21:07 GMT 1, Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't.
Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't.
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I just don’t get it at all , by South Bound on Oct 22, 2016 14:31:20 GMT 1, Been searching for an old thread for a while now (last posting was about 2 years ago), where people posted the artist(s) they just did not get and then forum members chimed in with their thoughts (all were very respectful) on what they get out of said artist(s) work. It was a great thread that kind of faded away.
The most written about was Sweet Toof, he brought a lot of love and question marks.
Been searching for an old thread for a while now (last posting was about 2 years ago), where people posted the artist(s) they just did not get and then forum members chimed in with their thoughts (all were very respectful) on what they get out of said artist(s) work. It was a great thread that kind of faded away.
The most written about was Sweet Toof, he brought a lot of love and question marks.
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I just don’t get it at all , by Viking Surfer on Oct 22, 2016 14:33:02 GMT 1, For the record, I'm not a Kaws or Faile fan either and I don't think I ever will be.
Their work just doesn't speak to me and I don't find it aesthetically pleasing, regardless of their thought process or vision.
Stik - I simply find beauty in its simplicity. How one man can convey so much emotion in just a few lines is wonderful.
Harland - He makes me laugh and I find his work visually seductive. He is a master colourist and colour is everything to me. Every inch of his work is orchestrated wonderfully.
For the record, I'm not a Kaws or Faile fan either and I don't think I ever will be.
Their work just doesn't speak to me and I don't find it aesthetically pleasing, regardless of their thought process or vision.
Stik - I simply find beauty in its simplicity. How one man can convey so much emotion in just a few lines is wonderful.
Harland - He makes me laugh and I find his work visually seductive. He is a master colourist and colour is everything to me. Every inch of his work is orchestrated wonderfully.
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I just don’t get it at all , by sugar72 on Oct 22, 2016 14:41:47 GMT 1, Beauty of art is the emotive effect it has on different people. Can't be explained, horses for courses! I cannot get Kaws or Invader, love Faile, Conor Harrington - but end of day appreciate every one has a valid opinion and that it's all individual. Wouldn't life be boring if all art was the same - if this was the case, art, music etc wouldn't exist.
Beauty of art is the emotive effect it has on different people. Can't be explained, horses for courses! I cannot get Kaws or Invader, love Faile, Conor Harrington - but end of day appreciate every one has a valid opinion and that it's all individual. Wouldn't life be boring if all art was the same - if this was the case, art, music etc wouldn't exist.
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I just don’t get it at all , by sl on Oct 22, 2016 14:53:07 GMT 1, Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't. Vikingsurfer that is really quite profound. Well said sir
Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't. Vikingsurfer that is really quite profound. Well said sir
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I just don’t get it at all , by natstan on Oct 22, 2016 15:10:37 GMT 1, I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around. I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays. I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works. Well said. As I learn more about artists and their process, inspirations, intentions of their work I ultimately end up seeing or appreciating the work differently. It's not always the case but often it is for me. Art in general gives us the opportunity to see something through someone else's eyes and experiences for a moment if you are open to it. I personally like asking "why". There is a bit of exploration involved. Or you can just take things as face value and leave it that if preferred. STIK is a perfect example for me. For a long time I just didn't connect to the work but after learning the artists intentions through books and conversations as well as exploring his portfolio of street and home pieces I started to appreciate his work differently. I can say I am now a happy owner of a signed STIK book print ;-) In movies Veerhoven comes to mind as a great example...maybe for a different discussion. Anyway, I think it's always a great question to ask why we connect artists or what we see in art that elicits some kind of emotional response. Too often this conversations gets overshadowed by monetary value. "Is it worth it?" takes a backseat to "Do I like it?"
Case in point, I was reading the new conor book, and there was this paragraph about how the stripes for his earlier paintings came about - they are actually track markings from the malaysian grand prix and he referenced them in his paintings because he thinks of f1 as the modern day chariot race. It fitted into the general theme of power and monarchy in his works at that point in time. That viewpoint really appeals to the 'intellectual' in me.
I didn't get all the kaws stuff either, but I have grown to like the companion figures and sculptures after quite a while and began collecting them a few months ago. I think they look like lovely pop sculptures to have around. I also didn't get parra's work or conor harrington's works initially. But I have also grown to be a big fan of everything they do these days. I am appreciating the manner in which their creative mind works, and how they can come up with the ideas for their paintings. On the other hand, those artists I immediately 'got it' (chevrier, eelus) don't appeal that much to me nowadays. I guess your mind evolves with the art you are exposed to with time, and sometimes certain art just makes sense to you in an instant after you see it enough. It's wonderful how the human mind works. Well said. As I learn more about artists and their process, inspirations, intentions of their work I ultimately end up seeing or appreciating the work differently. It's not always the case but often it is for me. Art in general gives us the opportunity to see something through someone else's eyes and experiences for a moment if you are open to it. I personally like asking "why". There is a bit of exploration involved. Or you can just take things as face value and leave it that if preferred. STIK is a perfect example for me. For a long time I just didn't connect to the work but after learning the artists intentions through books and conversations as well as exploring his portfolio of street and home pieces I started to appreciate his work differently. I can say I am now a happy owner of a signed STIK book print ;-) In movies Veerhoven comes to mind as a great example...maybe for a different discussion. Anyway, I think it's always a great question to ask why we connect artists or what we see in art that elicits some kind of emotional response. Too often this conversations gets overshadowed by monetary value. "Is it worth it?" takes a backseat to "Do I like it?" Case in point, I was reading the new conor book, and there was this paragraph about how the stripes for his earlier paintings came about - they are actually track markings from the malaysian grand prix and he referenced them in his paintings because he thinks of f1 as the modern day chariot race. It fitted into the general theme of power and monarchy in his works at that point in time. That viewpoint really appeals to the 'intellectual' in me.
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I just don’t get it at all , by nobokov on Oct 22, 2016 15:11:06 GMT 1, These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say?
There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans?
These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say?
There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans?
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I just don’t get it at all , by sugar72 on Oct 22, 2016 15:15:32 GMT 1, It's a very personal thing, art. Not sure saying "vague" in referring to someones taste is fair. As with many things in art, too much analysis strips it of its intrinsic personal meaning. You can have it explained to you but at end of day if you don't like it, then that's fine.
It's a very personal thing, art. Not sure saying "vague" in referring to someones taste is fair. As with many things in art, too much analysis strips it of its intrinsic personal meaning. You can have it explained to you but at end of day if you don't like it, then that's fine.
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I just don’t get it at all , by natstan on Oct 22, 2016 15:18:01 GMT 1, These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS - what all of this work trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans?
With kaws, I think it started as a cult following. Now, if you wish to find out how a cult starts, it is going to be very hard to find an answer. Maybe it's the cool factor, nigo helping him to open up all the vast networks at the start, maybe it's the reference to pop culture, or perhaps the young adults just love the cuteness of it all. Most importantly, I think his works are non age or gender centric, which explains his enormous fan base via word of mouth and social media. There are not many artists around with that kind of foundation to start with. His brand associations also puts his name out to many people over the years.
These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS - what all of this work trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? With kaws, I think it started as a cult following. Now, if you wish to find out how a cult starts, it is going to be very hard to find an answer. Maybe it's the cool factor, nigo helping him to open up all the vast networks at the start, maybe it's the reference to pop culture, or perhaps the young adults just love the cuteness of it all. Most importantly, I think his works are non age or gender centric, which explains his enormous fan base via word of mouth and social media. There are not many artists around with that kind of foundation to start with. His brand associations also puts his name out to many people over the years.
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I just don’t get it at all , by Matt on Oct 22, 2016 15:27:55 GMT 1, If you don't get the frenzied collecting of toys for big rich boys, and the overpriced prints of fluoro cartoon caracters...I would tend to agree.
However experiencing his art is very different. I would suggest, if at all possible, catching one of his exhibitions and seeing if anything resonates.
To me there really is something both comedic and extremely eerie at he same time about his huge figures, and his use of colour in his painted work sends out a great vibe without needing to overthink beyond the visual element.
This would not prompt me to collect his stuff or pay huge moolah for it, but I would not miss any occasion of seeing it in situ...
If you don't get the frenzied collecting of toys for big rich boys, and the overpriced prints of fluoro cartoon caracters...I would tend to agree.
However experiencing his art is very different. I would suggest, if at all possible, catching one of his exhibitions and seeing if anything resonates.
To me there really is something both comedic and extremely eerie at he same time about his huge figures, and his use of colour in his painted work sends out a great vibe without needing to overthink beyond the visual element.
This would not prompt me to collect his stuff or pay huge moolah for it, but I would not miss any occasion of seeing it in situ...
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I just don’t get it at all , by sl on Oct 22, 2016 15:29:12 GMT 1, These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing.
These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing.
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I just don’t get it at all , by nds on Oct 22, 2016 15:40:54 GMT 1, I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality.
Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder.
I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality.
Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder.
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I just don’t get it at all , by sugar72 on Oct 22, 2016 15:43:37 GMT 1, I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality. Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder.
Nicely said
I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality. Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. Nicely said
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I just don’t get it at all , by nobokov on Oct 22, 2016 15:44:30 GMT 1, These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing. Thanks, I didn't know any of that before and it definitely helps! From the sounds of things, he just drew on the faces of a few ads , like we all do as children, and it evolved into something that was marketable and could be sold as a commodity?
These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing. Thanks, I didn't know any of that before and it definitely helps! From the sounds of things, he just drew on the faces of a few ads , like we all do as children, and it evolved into something that was marketable and could be sold as a commodity?
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I just don’t get it at all , by nobokov on Oct 22, 2016 15:51:14 GMT 1, I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality. Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. There doesn't and I'm definitely not trying to imply there should be. But, if there are so many fans, there must be some concrete aspects that one could describe, right?
Hypothetically, an answer might be and Im just making shit up, " I think that by drawing over advertising images, hes rejecting the commercialism and the over sexualized intent of these adverts. Or blah blah."
If KAws just drew these things cause they look cool and sell like hotcakes, then I get it, but i wouldn't really respect him as an artist.
I think the justification of ones opinions to their art preference becomes diluted and equally fragmented in a digital age. Truth and fiction become harder to define.Therefore what I believe is my opinion may be the very product and embodiment of the current age as a perceived reality. Hence, why is a level of understanding required at all? Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. There doesn't and I'm definitely not trying to imply there should be. But, if there are so many fans, there must be some concrete aspects that one could describe, right? Hypothetically, an answer might be and Im just making shit up, " I think that by drawing over advertising images, hes rejecting the commercialism and the over sexualized intent of these adverts. Or blah blah." If KAws just drew these things cause they look cool and sell like hotcakes, then I get it, but i wouldn't really respect him as an artist.
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I just don’t get it at all , by Matt on Oct 22, 2016 15:56:30 GMT 1, Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. [
I guess this easily applies to the aesthetic dimension of art, which one is free to like / appreciate / enjoy etc in full subjectivity.
But whether the beholder finds Duchamp's urinal appealing or ugly is not really the question
Beyond the visual dimension ( which can in some instance be self sufficient), there are often many more objective traits of artistic creation (message, process, intent, technique etc etc...) that can be formalised and debated beyond the simple like / dislike of the beholder.
Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. [ I guess this easily applies to the aesthetic dimension of art, which one is free to like / appreciate / enjoy etc in full subjectivity. But whether the beholder finds Duchamp's urinal appealing or ugly is not really the question Beyond the visual dimension ( which can in some instance be self sufficient), there are often many more objective traits of artistic creation (message, process, intent, technique etc etc...) that can be formalised and debated beyond the simple like / dislike of the beholder.
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I just don’t get it at all , by nobokov on Oct 22, 2016 15:58:22 GMT 1, Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. [ I guess this easily applies to the aesthetic dimension of art, which one is free to like / appreciate / enjoy etc in full subjectivity. But whether the beholder finds Duchamp's urinal appealing or ugly is not really the question Beyond the visual dimension ( which can in some instance be self sufficient), there are often many more objective traits of artistic creation (message, process, intent, technique etc etc...) that can be formalised and debated beyond the simple like / dislike of the beholder. Very aptly put!
Why does there have to be a right or wrong in an opinion about a subject that can not be define and is only relevant to the eye of the beholder. [ I guess this easily applies to the aesthetic dimension of art, which one is free to like / appreciate / enjoy etc in full subjectivity. But whether the beholder finds Duchamp's urinal appealing or ugly is not really the question Beyond the visual dimension ( which can in some instance be self sufficient), there are often many more objective traits of artistic creation (message, process, intent, technique etc etc...) that can be formalised and debated beyond the simple like / dislike of the beholder. Very aptly put!
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South Bound
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I just don’t get it at all , by South Bound on Oct 22, 2016 16:07:00 GMT 1, These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing. to add to the above:
His work (IMO) is in the same vain as most pop art. Taking popular culture images out of context and then changing the image or placing the image in a new space in hopes of generating an emotion or thought from the viewer they would not have gotten from the original.
While KAWS has moved on to fame and fortune he has (according to my graffiti writer friends) was a very prominent member of a big influential NYC crew and maintained his credibility amongst the writers as apparently he is still quite involved with them as well as his work alongside the Mission School crowd and his major contribution to the beautiful losers.
These are all nice but kinda vague answers. I agree with the original post, but would really love to hear concrete examples of why they love KAWS specifically - what all of this work is trying to say? There seems to be millions of followers but I just don't understand the meaning of all these dolls and x eyes. Perhaps knowing more about the meaning and what specific aspects are appealing would help us to like it more and perhaps even become fellow fans? I don't profess to know a lot about Kaws but here goes, I do know that he said said many times his name means nothing. He just liked the combination of the letters KAWS and said he thought they worked well together. He X's started as he used to paint them over bus stop ads. His work in graphic design led to the colorful images. I think like many artists or logos the rest is just his branding that distinguishes his art and has created an instantly recognizable character in the art world. Many may already know all this but I thought might be worth sharing. to add to the above: His work (IMO) is in the same vain as most pop art. Taking popular culture images out of context and then changing the image or placing the image in a new space in hopes of generating an emotion or thought from the viewer they would not have gotten from the original. While KAWS has moved on to fame and fortune he has (according to my graffiti writer friends) was a very prominent member of a big influential NYC crew and maintained his credibility amongst the writers as apparently he is still quite involved with them as well as his work alongside the Mission School crowd and his major contribution to the beautiful losers.
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nds
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August 2014
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I just don’t get it at all , by nds on Oct 22, 2016 16:10:54 GMT 1, I have a friend who is covered from head to toe in tattoos, and time after time people come up to him asking why he has so many and what they symbolise, what do they all mean. He would always respond the same,' because I like them, why does there have to be a reason'. However that response became even more abstract when you took a look at his left arm which bore the names of several women he'd been with over the years.
I have a friend who is covered from head to toe in tattoos, and time after time people come up to him asking why he has so many and what they symbolise, what do they all mean. He would always respond the same,' because I like them, why does there have to be a reason'. However that response became even more abstract when you took a look at his left arm which bore the names of several women he'd been with over the years.
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CREAM
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I just don’t get it at all , by CREAM on Oct 22, 2016 16:11:43 GMT 1, Kaws work is both simple and complex at the same time. He takes these pop culture figures that we all grew up on and have influenced us one way or another over the years and redefines them in his own language. I love how he can take the smallest element from a character and place it in a painting but you're still able to recognize what it is. I love the dark humor in his work and the different emotions that he brings out the characters revealing different sides to them we haven't seen before. I love his use of line and color, they really bring life to the work. I can see how many people don't like his work but if you have a chance to see it in person I think you would maybe get a different perspective on it.
Kaws work is both simple and complex at the same time. He takes these pop culture figures that we all grew up on and have influenced us one way or another over the years and redefines them in his own language. I love how he can take the smallest element from a character and place it in a painting but you're still able to recognize what it is. I love the dark humor in his work and the different emotions that he brings out the characters revealing different sides to them we haven't seen before. I love his use of line and color, they really bring life to the work. I can see how many people don't like his work but if you have a chance to see it in person I think you would maybe get a different perspective on it.
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I just don’t get it at all , by Deleted on Oct 22, 2016 16:12:43 GMT 1, While KAWS has moved on to fame and fortune he has (according to my graffiti writer friends) was a very prominent member of a big NYC crew and maintained his credibility amongst the writers as apparently he is still quite involved with them. [
Brian is the thinking writers writer.
While KAWS has moved on to fame and fortune he has (according to my graffiti writer friends) was a very prominent member of a big NYC crew and maintained his credibility amongst the writers as apparently he is still quite involved with them. [ Brian is the thinking writers writer.
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nobokov
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February 2016
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I just don’t get it at all , by nobokov on Oct 22, 2016 16:22:23 GMT 1, I have a friend who is covered from head to toe in tattoos, and time after time people come up to him asking why he has so many and what they symbolise, what do they all mean. He would always respond the same,' because I like them, why does there have to be a reason'. However that response became even more abstract when you took a look at his left arm which bore the names of several women he'd been with over the years. But, in that case, shouldn't there REALLY be a reason? I can understand if you put art on a wall because it looks nice and you like it for no particular reason, but your body man....
I have a friend who is covered from head to toe in tattoos, and time after time people come up to him asking why he has so many and what they symbolise, what do they all mean. He would always respond the same,' because I like them, why does there have to be a reason'. However that response became even more abstract when you took a look at his left arm which bore the names of several women he'd been with over the years. But, in that case, shouldn't there REALLY be a reason? I can understand if you put art on a wall because it looks nice and you like it for no particular reason, but your body man....
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sugar72
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August 2016
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I just don’t get it at all , by sugar72 on Oct 22, 2016 16:26:39 GMT 1, The deeper you go the darker it gets, the less you find!
The deeper you go the darker it gets, the less you find!
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Viking Surfer
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I just don’t get it at all , by Viking Surfer on Oct 22, 2016 16:27:22 GMT 1, Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't. Vikingsurfer that is really quite profound. Well said sir Thanks for the nod
Yup, art is like a human being, it has its own voice and sometimes it speaks to you, other times it doesn't. Vikingsurfer that is really quite profound. Well said sir Thanks for the nod
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lucky7
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June 2014
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I just don’t get it at all , by lucky7 on Oct 23, 2016 6:19:42 GMT 1, I think its: 1. The colors 2. The scale toys to huge sculptures. 3. The textures: very clean. 4. The way he conveys DEEP emotions through simple figure nee/characters: sorrow, contemplation, despair, confusion
I think its: 1. The colors 2. The scale toys to huge sculptures. 3. The textures: very clean. 4. The way he conveys DEEP emotions through simple figure nee/characters: sorrow, contemplation, despair, confusion
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I just don’t get it at all , by Howard Johnson on Oct 23, 2016 7:04:48 GMT 1, I've always thought Kaws explores the medium of illustration and animation in a similer way that twombly explored the textures of written language. For those of use who share an affinity for animation, Kaws work is brilliant and has a voice all its own. But not everyone is going to be drawn to his body of work, but I'd argue is got the broadest appeal of almost any living artist. With koons your gonna need an art history degree to really appriciate his work, with Kaws, children and adults alike will be immediately captivated, and there's something to be said for that.
I've always thought Kaws explores the medium of illustration and animation in a similer way that twombly explored the textures of written language. For those of use who share an affinity for animation, Kaws work is brilliant and has a voice all its own. But not everyone is going to be drawn to his body of work, but I'd argue is got the broadest appeal of almost any living artist. With koons your gonna need an art history degree to really appriciate his work, with Kaws, children and adults alike will be immediately captivated, and there's something to be said for that.
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